BingoBoingo: What are you talking about? Scissor lifts are designed to be manhandled by forklifts. How else do you expect them to get stacked on flatbeds?
shinohai: I see Putin gave Steven Seagal citizenship ... can Trump be far behind?
pete_dushenski: you think trump'll give seagal citizenship too ? hmm. sounds a bit far-fetched :P
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 21:08 phf: some kid pulls up with chrome dipped bugatti rims now i'm thinking it's three in the am i'm walking he in a bm drop top 3 and don't even see me but you gonna believe he saw my gun in 3-D
phf: phf thinks those truffles ain't going to dig and ship themselves
mircea_popescu: if you can't get a decision by monday i guess ima pick myself.
shinohai: mircea_popescu advocating democracy O.o
shinohai: I must have had too much to drink tonite
hanbot: haha cool. i suppose i'll make the offer to divert a third of the prize to each my fellow lady & lord should i be "selected", so we have a proper dilemma to play.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> mircea_popescu advocating democracy O.o << Not a democracy. A Jury of the Peerage.
BingoBoingo: <phf> phf thinks those truffles ain't going to dig and ship themselves << You missed when "truffles" was around in chan
shinohai: He still made me think the Four Horseman were on the ride.
BingoBoingo being a selfish prick and very sick individual must naturally vote for myself. My second preference would be diana_coman's for the subtle twist, though hanbot did the right thing by fanfic law and made the sex gay.
trinque smells something rotten in this "intel coup" angle coming from the usual disinfo outlets
trinque: ;;later tell BingoBoingo I can't remember if you covered this in your writings on frozen binary conflicts in political discourse, but it seems that in halting movement, they consequently cool.
trinque: !~later tell BingoBoingo I can't remember if you covered this in your writings on frozen binary conflicts in political discourse, but it seems that in halting movement, they consequently cool.
jhvh1: trinque: The operation succeeded.
trinque: so then, snowden, binney, et al, provide a way to bring out the panopticon in a deniable way. now that its existence is a background fact of life, the next step is to make it the hero that saved the great and made it great again
☟︎ trinque should probably write when not on the end of 5am-2am; frozen and cool in the same sentence isn't very clear.
trinque: say there is pairing (A B) which represents *whether* NSA is watching us poop. opinions in democracy are arbitrary, and the thing will eventually settle around an even split. then pairing (C D) is introduced, which is *given that* NSA watches us poop, do we like that? again, since democracy is arbitrary, opinions spread evenly.
trinque: at the first step, there is one group of two that *knows* NSA is watching. at the second, it's 3 out of 4.
trinque: derp, 2/3, but you get the idea.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562863 << denial and its categories don't even enter into any of this. on one hand, "the people" are bellow cattle, intellectually. one needn't explain farm functioning to the cows, just as long as they're fed. on the other hand, if you can, you must. the electronics exist, therefore they will be used. we can now mold plastics so therefore you'll fuck dildos. so what if you... uh... think yo
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 06:42 trinque: so then, snowden, binney, et al, provide a way to bring out the panopticon in a deniable way. now that its existence is a background fact of life, the next step is to make it the hero that saved the great and made it great again
mircea_popescu: cctv on every pole etc is a "background fact of life" in the sense 10 degrees summer temperatures and 16 hour nights were a fact of life in 1816. there was no denying it from mt tambora mostly because nobody had the standing to fucking ask.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
phf: there's a dodgy israeli coffee shop in the neighborhood (they make shakshuka and burek though, which are good, when the israeli guy is running the kitchen), which is a favorite meeting spot for local "career" women. i just spent about an hour half listening to a conversation, and for the love of me i can't figure out what it's about. "yeah should reach out to such and such i was on his board" "yeah such and such is now at such and such
☟︎ phf: they are doing some exciting work" "small business" "he's a community organizer" "small business" "building communities?" "she was on the board"
phf: "community with the NEEDS of the community" "have you reached out to the principal?" "talented and competent" "the message we're working on ... VISION"
mircea_popescu: omaygerd stop hating on them and start hitting on them
Framedragger: phf should just tell them that he too is on a board of a small but growing grass-roots community-network which is trying to help people achieve their best in life
Framedragger: if they ask for an example tell them "well for instance if you really tried hard you could perhaps become a great slavegirl. start with $trilema-tits-url"
phf: i believe mircea_popescu said something a few times about women post-30 being hopeless in that respect
phf: i've flurted my way through highschool with post-menopausal authority figures like that, i'm only ever doing it again if i need something
phf: i guess a peace of mind during breakfast is reason enough...
PeterL: how do you not have time to eat breakfast? Just wake up a few minutes earlier
mircea_popescu: phf statistics are useless in individual cases though. point in case : chet was 50 when we met.
mircea_popescu: i'm not famous for actually following my own heuristics all that predictably.
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562842 <- I find myself agreeing and disagreeing with everyone on this so it's a right mess; agreeing with mircea_popescu on it being close, quite disagreeing with him on this newly found democratic idea of passing on the hot potato; agreeing with BingoBoingo on the importance of one voting for oneself first, I'll do just that and vote for myself first; will vote for hanbot 2nd for her rectibu
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 02:03 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-03#1562665 << yeah thinking about it i'm gonna do a democratic thing here. so the recognized participants being diana_coman hanbot and BingoBoingo - agree amonst yourselves to select a winner and let me know who it is.
diana_coman: tion day that clearly gets one drinking, although BingoBoingo really got James and Elliot going; agreeing with hanbot, I'm totally in favour of splitting the prize in three; finally disagreeing with hanbot and with BingoBoingo and with anyone who gets into this, I'll simply proclaim
http://thebitcoin.foundation/ as winner and award the whole prize to it
BingoBoingo: It's totally not democratic if truffles and luke-jr don't have franchise
BingoBoingo on principle opposes equal distribution of the prize pot because unfairness must be preserved.
diana_coman: I tend to agree with that, BingoBoingo ; so I guess some mess is cleared up, no splitting of the coin allowed
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: If a split, split must be unequal because sex havers are in heaven and Elliot is in hell.
BingoBoingo: As a revolutionary idea incapable of having sex the Bitcoin Foundation may have a role to play as surrogate Elliot to be unfair to.
BingoBoingo: Anyways I think this is progress because the buck seems as though it will inevitably be passed unfairly back to mircea_popescu
diana_coman is not sure Elliot could do splits, hence the preference for keeping the coin whole
diana_coman: but it might depend on hanbot's votes now; if we go by votes at all
BingoBoingo: "Our Elliot who art in Hell. What was your last name again. Our kingdom cum, no sex for you. For we are in heaven. Give us this, our daily lols. Forgive us our sex, as we forgive you for not having any. And lead us not into slaughter over craigslist, but deliver us lulz. A Phi."
BingoBoingo: If diana_coman's story maintained it's quality of fiction while correctly including James and Elliot having gay sex. There's a chance alternate universe me would be conceding.
BingoBoingo wonders how unfairly hanbot percieves us so impickling her.
trinque wants pictures of the dungeon underneath the owl statued building
mircea_popescu: lol i totally imped out the halloween contest didn't i/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> holy shit state of md is BACK TO PAPER BALLOTS << hallo alfie. how goes ?
trinque drums on table in anticipation for $holidaysurprise
mircea_popescu: anyway. other than end of gop, trump victory likely will also be end of democratic party.
mircea_popescu: pretty much everyone anyone ever heard the name of involved in blue politics can go to jail starting tomorrow and stay there for the rest of the century, there's enough paperwork to cover it.
mircea_popescu: contrary to popular belief, mexico WILL pay for the wall if the grunts doing the hand labour in chain gangs will be hillary, reid and friends.
mircea_popescu: should be funny to watch a few thousand old men and women toil to death in the southern deserts.
mircea_popescu: funny reversal of the "mp is headed to jail" meme. turns out... the entire usg goes there first ? WHO COULD HAVE... predicted.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No need for new jails. Obama will pardon the crack epidemic on his way out.
trinque: Trump administration will just say the pardon didn't apply to X, neener
trinque: why? Trump's going to usher in "NSA is our hero"
BingoBoingo: And seriously Trump united KGB and FBI in harmony.
trinque: if clitler were the chosen one, where's the leak of trump's tax returns, or w/e else.
BingoBoingo: This election would have made a great 1980's movie. KGB and FBI holding hands.
trinque: maybe drugged up, dumped inside a gay bar later
mircea_popescu: lose ? the notion that clinton is walking away from this election seems the height of naivity.
mircea_popescu: woman's got a week or so left of free range time, that's it.
hanbot: BingoBoingo diana_coman mircea_popescu "right mess" indeed lol. anyway, i appreciated bb's story on account of its total lack of fear or restraint, and diana's for its jabs, particularly the spellchecker. i'll be naming myself though, on the simple criteria of having liked it best. as far as second and third places go i'll name bb second and diana third, for no other reason than to see all possible positions expressed.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "cathedral" never had any consistency outside of the pointless drivel of some redditard or other. apparently readily swallowed as fact by a certain demographic.
trinque: is this a cultural thing? asciilifeform sees same behavior among many, assumes there must be command/control taking place?
trinque: they're just mindless clones, exact same person in multiple salt water sacks
mircea_popescu: in the sense in which it was presented, and in the sense in which you misrepresented it to yourself throughout the past half decade.
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to entertain the "plox state our own delusion to us, that we may pretend it wasn't it".
mircea_popescu: trinque importantly - powerless. that the algae swing with the tide doth not mean anything about the algae being the moon.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it counts for something. it doesn't count for what you thought it counted - because there is such a thing as unhomogenous medium.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: ty. "total lack of fear" is part of inner peace that comes from the Big Book. page 83 paragraph beginning at the bottom of the page features a description
phf: is that sort of like "evolution" being an emergent behavior, so doesn't actually "exist" as an object, likewise asciilifeform is naming processes described in manufacturing consent "cathedral" and claiming that i can go touch it
mircea_popescu: not even as far as evolution. if i go to a starving village and feed them sushi and tell them sushi is the best meal there is, their dutiful repeating of this does not even constitute an opinion.
mircea_popescu: if i go to some idiot boys whose bodies outgrew their minds and both of these their testicles and tell them stories about women, the government and blabla, that they "form an idea" of what i said has no bearing on anything. not on women ; not on government ; and not even on ideas.
trinque: aha, agency does not reside in the NYT, Harvard, etc
mircea_popescu: the mechanism at issue is this god forsaken bit of americana tardism where recognition = knowledge.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: guessing "what the word could mean in context" doesn't mean you read the fucking book ; and "things making sense" to you doesn't mean they exist, or they make sense.
trinque: crypto exists, bitcoin exists, leaking is a thing, ...
trinque: plenty of environmental changes
trinque: when else could terabytes of evidence be dumped upon a "Clintons"
trinque made no mention of the public
trinque: USG just went from supahpowah to pedowitch infested shitland in a few decades
BingoBoingo rather certain that Russian observers in cook and st clair counties in Illinois would be sufficient to turn state "red"
trinque: if I were either Russia or China I would be very happy about this
trinque: and if I were a fledgling Republic, all the more
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> chinese soy will be grown in american ex-parks etc. regardless of which party wins election << ALready happening in Missouri. Called "Right to farm" implemented through... ballot measure of all things.
trinque: where's the (loop do (and-anyway)) thread
trinque: the environment changed; this always matters, and it's the only thing that matters
trinque: however, this environmental change doesn't look too hospitable to a clinton. we'll find out.
BingoBoingo: trinque: You worldview may be tinted by Texas colored glasses. Dindus, MENA refugees, and white heroin are rapibly eroding the suburbs elsewhere.
BingoBoingo: James Lafond presents Urban America is an environmental change
deedbot: wyrdmantis voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the case of "quantum computer", picked randomly from a set of these. you, or i, or others here possess the math and physics needed to evaluate that thing. and so we know, as a factual matter, it dun exist.
mircea_popescu: a whole whorde of "educated" kids with an interest in "science" and "technology" do not. it's not merely that they do not know what we know ; it's that they do not know HOW we know. to them knowledge isn't this multi-dimensional accounting system which sums to null on all edges.
mircea_popescu: to them it's a case of "what do most of the teachers seem to consensus" because then that's "of course" known.
mircea_popescu: and therefore to them, "the cathedral" and "quantum computing".
mircea_popescu: the indignity of adult female caught in nonsensical academic expectations on a college campus, trying to "keep up", at least as far as appearances go, through social engineering her way through the teachers, cold reading them like the last lounge lizzard and at all times trying to scent the prevailing opinion in the wind like some sort of illiterate but desperate fox is not apparent to any who've not fucked them as such. stil
mircea_popescu: l, it's there, and it's a thing. it's also a way of life - apparently, for an entire people by now.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 437347 | Current Difficulty: 2.5361824664148953E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 437471 | Next Difficulty In: 124 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: the fact that "Your browser" fucks up url parsing isn't an argument.
trinque: question mark isn't a valid hostname character, only [a-zA-Z0-9][a-zA-Z0-9-_]* iirc, or thereabouts
phf: YOU COULD BE TRICKED!!!
mircea_popescu: trinque that is true, which is why it should go to hackdog.me. the last dot gives the top level domain, ie me. the thing before that, is the local domain, ie hackdog. the thing before that is in error and thus discarded.
mircea_popescu: they're patching the error of lynx doing the right thing in 2016 as it did in 1996 ; except meanwhile everyone else went fucking clueless.
phf: modern browser will helpfully render that url as "google" for you, so as not to confuse with such complexities as domain hierarchy, protocols, paths, queries, etc. so once they went down that path of madness incorrect parsing becomes a "YOU COULD BE TRICKED" situation, because you could, thank you google
mircea_popescu: this is more of the same bullshit "oh you asked a question, OF COURSE you wanted an answer from wikipedia, because in our arbitrary private listing "wikipedia" is what answers questions because we say so, and therefore here's a "search engine" which is a machine of returning the "most relevant" results for your query according to our handmade list of what should be relevant and therefore is."
mircea_popescu: how this nonsense is supposed to pass muster is anyone's guess. america dun need to be made great again because according to wikipedia it still is!
mircea_popescu: google.com?hackdog.me should go to google com notwithstanding it belongs to hackdog.me by the standard because IT HAS GOOGLE COM IN IT!!1 and hackdog.me doesn't understand how the world works! and anyone who still remembers the standard is just putin's bitch! and hurr durr!
phf suspects hackgod.me has a significantly higher snr than google.com
phf: the typo was unintentional
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 19:07 mircea_popescu: shinohai consider maybe making an estimator ?
shinohai: Chitterlings cost extra pete_dushenski ?
pete_dushenski:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562985 << this ties into the earlier thread about nra membership leading to 'buy gold!' spamola in the post box. just having identified that the stock markets and fiat money markets are rigged or that the gendarmerie are on schedule is considered salvation, and this is cemented with the purchase of talisman xyz against evil spirits of clitlerokracy.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 18:28 mircea_popescu: the mechanism at issue is this god forsaken bit of americana tardism where recognition = knowledge.
pete_dushenski reads. finds that it is so. battered and fried pig guts! oooeee!
shinohai: Yup, makes jews everywhere retch in disgust.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 16:45 asciilifeform: (apparently law passed in 2007 !! but 'funding delayed' for 9 years..)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 14:34 phf: there's a dodgy israeli coffee shop in the neighborhood (they make shakshuka and burek though, which are good, when the israeli guy is running the kitchen), which is a favorite meeting spot for local "career" women. i just spent about an hour half listening to a conversation, and for the love of me i can't figure out what it's about. "yeah should reach out to such and such i was on his board" "yeah such and such is now at such and such
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 02:03 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-03#1562665 << yeah thinking about it i'm gonna do a democratic thing here. so the recognized participants being diana_coman hanbot and BingoBoingo - agree amonst yourselves to select a winner and let me know who it is.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski well they're the only ones with a voice in there.
phf: pete_dushenski: things that i find dodgy are the kind of things that attract womeninbusiness obviously
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: where's 'there' ? is voting l1, l2,... ?
pete_dushenski: when i think 'israeli owned dodgy coffee shop' i think of a place with open baklava on the front deli counter, flies buzzing, dirty white linoleum floors, dusty ceiling fans, etc
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: rereading, i can see that. i guess it was just ambiguous on first reading. my bad.
phf: oh i see, some movie Brooklyn stereotype, in my experience though israelis run a tight ship
phf: but no in this case israeli is the reason why i was there (for a burek) but the dodgy is everything else about the place. it might as well be starbucks, except they don't have those fancy starbucks machines so the "baristas" can fuck up however they want and they do
mircea_popescu: i cant recall the last time someone fucked up my coffee
phf: but they sometimes have this guy cooking, who i think is owner's relative, and he always looks like he just came back from a party in eilat or herzliya, completely out of place for the area. he knows how to cook a shakshuka really well
mircea_popescu: lol tru russian jew, goes to new york, starts day with shakshuka breafkast at coffee shop
shinohai:
http://archive.is/IGurI <<< so my TV is a samsung, I am assuming it isn't long until it blows up and takes me with it. I hereby bequeath my Eulora loot to mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: truth be told the us is a whole lot more entertaining in sinking than it ever was sailing.
trinque: "jus like watergate u guise!!1!"
trinque: mircea_popescu: entertaining as all hell, and I never even got to see sailing.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.