trinque: they have sweet ones in texas that'll go "oh hey, you're working. I'll go bake something" but the proportion dwindles by the day.
trinque likes dpb, was just elbowing him
mircea_popescu:
https://archive.is/38D3N << derpy woman with no tech anything in SV has tiny deal collapse, she misrepresents it as "her refusing to deal with some guy who might have once had dinner with thiel", bloomberg is happy to run the nonsense.
mircea_popescu: i thought it may be too abstruse for lack of context / jumps
hanbot: (speaking of that republican reddit warnin')
mircea_popescu: hey, if i were clinton's campaign i'd also run the reddit thingee for her oponent.
thestringpuller: grunge is such a shitty music, and it wasn't really surprising Kurt Cobain was a self loathing piece of shit.
thestringpuller: like srsly. "Waaah. My stomach hurts I'm gonna do heroin. Courtney Love is such a bitch. Waaah I hate being a rockstar."
thestringpuller: more importantly point was more kurt cobain was not meant for stardom at all
thestringpuller: like i guess for instance, trent reznor went through the same shit and became a rock god.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, sarmatia was mostly dacia, ie, present day romania.
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes just you wait until the network effects start building up
mircea_popescu: and in other wtf, now i'm getting local "businessmen" trying to convince me to publicize their "business idea". which is... "the patagonian pyramid". EXACTLY what you imagine.
mircea_popescu: that people this stupid manage to find food is an outrage to all the gods.
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shinohai: I think I need to changed trigget to !~b though ... forgot that was how it used to be
mircea_popescu: shinohai you could prolly dispense with "moderation" altogether.
mircea_popescu: it just slows things down / makeswork for people. not like randos can speak in chan anyway
shinohai: Currently, bot just sends all the weekly bashims to pete_dushenski in a gpgram for him to publish, kinda low-tech :/
mircea_popescu: shinohai in principle it could work like : there's a wp, either dedicated or extand with a special category ; when getting !~b bot just publishes the thing there then responds with "<jhvh1> Last 2 lines bashed :
http://blog.url/article".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "the extend to which" << extent. in latest.
mircea_popescu: what's it called when a scammer sails into the sunset ? SCAILING!
BingoBoingo: I mean wtf, they are still around communing with theft?
mircea_popescu: check it out, the trishop has meanwhile set aside apostasy as an exclusion criteria for nuptials.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron suppose the woman believes and the man doesn't, and they're married. as she's to take after him in all things ; and he's to educate her in all matters, by the time of her first litter she'll be an apostate too!
mircea_popescu: you probably mean "apostasy is a block to marriage in the sense that if the man doesn't believe he shouldn't be married to anyone ; nobody cares what the woman believes or doesn't."
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: so that there's no repeat of the bickening, is 'in principle bash could work like x' the new way forward ? because i don't at all mind moderating bashes. in fact, i kinda like it. i'm also not entirely persuaded that every last bash contender is worthy of publication, but i grant that it's not ultimately my call. either way, i'm honoured to have contravex serve as host in whatever capacity
mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem either way, really. republican senate discusses and teh lord implementer decides.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: most every store has own giftcard cum altcoin. pretty sure even my berlinese beltmaker has em.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: and yet hillary's is intact O WAIT SHE DUN HAVE ONE
shinohai: Hillary is on twitter wishing herself a Happy Birthday to whoever will listen ... because no friends?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: aha. well link is to latest tech out of china using smartfone-looking device.
pete_dushenski: not that the loss of '5 easy ways to bulletproof your credit cards against identity theft' is so devastating to the civilised world...
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> check it out, the trishop has meanwhile set aside apostasy as an exclusion criteria for nuptials. << key word is *friend* -- the point being, if man and woman don't both believe then they shouldn't even be friends, let alone get married
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> danielpbarron suppose the woman believes and the man doesn't, and they're married. << she should both submit to him and also keep the faith
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] 1 Corinthians 7:12 :: But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] 1 Corinthians 7:13 :: And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] 1 Corinthians 7:14 :: For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
trinque puts on 666 The Number of the Beast to balance things out a bit
ben_vulpes: aaah i see the rodgers fanfic competition is heating up
☟︎ trinque: in other news, the bitcoin/usg.usd interface is on the move
trinque: current price on buttstamp... 666! it's a sign from the morning star!
trinque: "as the military continues to rely on the low-and-slow attack plane for close-air support (CAS) missions flown against Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria." << coming soon to an american urban warfare theater near you.
mats: usg is busy maintaining a state of terror in the middle east
mats: coalition forces near mosul bombed the women's section of a Shia mosque in Daquq, resulting in at least 13 dead
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pretty much everything is sectioned off. this way the derpy males don't have to come to terms with the fact that no, they didn't fuck 'em. how come, they were there.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron wait, so i shouldn't be friends with muslim chicks ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-26 16:09 ben_vulpes: aaah i see the rodgers fanfic competition is heating up
mircea_popescu: and in other news, /me just bought, or rather paid for, a bunch of hot dresses. once home it was discovered the shop's logo actually includes a pair of tits.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nono /bombing/ the women's section
ben_vulpes: very egalitarian, these coalition forces
mircea_popescu: yeah. i mean, middle east is all segregated. everything has womens' sections
mircea_popescu: say what you will of the whole "why teach women not to be raped, teach men not to rape" thing, but there's a kernel in there. freely intermixing the genders has its costs, and common practice making one unaware doesn't actually make them go away. just like noise pollution is still pollution whether consciously audible or not.
mircea_popescu: most middle eastern men will spend their entire lives without ever interacting socially with women.
mircea_popescu: mats o wow, they turned about on that stupid idea ? incredible.
mircea_popescu: kickstarter is by now evolving into its own alt-world. very reminiscent of how myspace went, this. "general purpose" UGC shitmarket turns into very peculiar weird. other than kickstarter being all about "my weird tabletop game" instead of "my shitty garage band", the differences elude me
ben_vulpes: note also zoe quinn's wrapped up in it. lulz are sure to flow.
mircea_popescu: was this one of the original "i'm a woman in tech with no tech skills hear me roar" crowd ?
mircea_popescu: so basically this is taco bell doing "gonzo" advertising and "being out there".
mircea_popescu: these schmucks lol, they don't even have a cool they're already selling it out. wtf is this lmao.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> danielpbarron wait, so i shouldn't be friends with muslim chicks ? << well you don't believe the Bible, so be friends with who you like i guess
jurov: omg how it's possible i was not aware of chuck tingle?
jurov: actually, what does danielpbarron say about man-beast marriages? iirc there's something about a lion and lamb
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Leviticus 20:15 :: And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Leviticus 20:16 :: And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
mircea_popescu: phf holy shit that's nonsense. really, pushed into her intestines ? only a dude innocent of sexual congress, or at any rate who's never fucked a girl an inch shorter than him can imagine such a thing.
mircea_popescu: you have a better chance poking a glory hole through the wall than hurting the woman by impaling her with your penis.
jurov: not his. donkey's.
mircea_popescu: she might tear, and lose a fourchette even. she won't split up top.
mircea_popescu: i suppose they don't show this in general use schematics etc, but the peritoneal cavity is protected in females by strong conjunctive tissue reinforced by a strong muscle that uses the pubis for leverage. you've about the same chances to break into her guts as you have to break a dude's forearm through his bicep.
mircea_popescu: anyway. your penis will break first, and by an order of magnitude first.
phf: why yours though? the poem is talking about a donkey
mircea_popescu: (yes, there is such a thing as a penis fracture. it occasionally happens when a (short) woman cowgirls her husband after a night of drinking)
mircea_popescu: phf donkey is somewhat bigger, but not that much stronger. the issue is stretching her out.
trinque: man, that dick bending shit is the worst.
mircea_popescu: it's softer than human. larger, thicker and all that. not exactly a tool of destruction however.
phf: horses are much stronger though, and more importantly can just apply weight. i'm not sure if donkeys are significantly heavier though.
mircea_popescu: donkey is about as heavy as a man. and yes they can apply weight, but they apply weight to what's essentially soft tissue.
mircea_popescu: penis is a hydraulic, blood powered baloon not some sort of a bone.
phf: i feel like this requires an experiment
trinque: hm, apparently other primates have a baculum, humans (and horses) do not.
trinque: in the human case, it makes me wonder if this feature was removed by evolving standing upright
phf: i guess the whole "impaled by a horse" can just be an apocryphal story
mircea_popescu: by all means, next time you end up with a lot of feminists have the horses fuck 'em to death see how many pelvic floor splits you can count
mircea_popescu: phf the work to impale (most of which goes to fracturing the basin to displace the hips from inside) is historically >2 <4hp.
mircea_popescu: meaning a horse can't provide it even if equipped with wooden gear.
mircea_popescu: trinque well sure, and some bugs actually have piercers for the exact purpose. which is how bed tick colonies fail in vitro. but how weird are we gonna take it you know.
mircea_popescu: enfin, even this aside : whoever thinks getting a punctured gut makes you die without a word never was involved in a port tavern knife fight. worst fucking way to go, for it takes forever.
PeterL: I thought stories of "impaled by horse" usually involved a man, not woman?
mircea_popescu: hard to tell. i thought they mostly involved the same bad fanfic writers who do all the other shit for playboy's "mail from readers" section
PeterL: the "not a word" could also be "nobody around to hear it, therefore no words uttered"
phf: "not a word" part could also be a bad translation
mircea_popescu: imagine that wonder, uterus extension fuckspace. but this is somehow a recurrent theme.
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a111: Logged on 2016-10-26 19:02 mircea_popescu: but ~you~ couldn't be friends with muslim chicks ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron that's not very practical then is it ? having a multitude of varied, various and mutually-irreducible friends is the cornerstone of anchored sanity, i always thought.
mircea_popescu: hence the expression "what do i care, i'm not married to it."
danielpbarron: associates is a better term for those kinds of relationships
mircea_popescu: trinque the theory is complicated, mostly because it's a host of various characteristics. probably the most important being hidden ovulation in females, which then drove a mating style similar to that of pigeons (follow her around, fuck her often), which then probably made the bone too expensive.
danielpbarron: it hurts to lose a friend. associates, not so much
mircea_popescu: most animals that have the bone tend to meet the females rarely and only in estrus.
danielpbarron: i know before the hurt whether it would hurt or not
mircea_popescu: well yes but isn't the entire rational point of belief that you isolate circularity there and therefore need no more of it anywhere else ?
mircea_popescu: if your prime mover fails to put the whole world in motion there's something seriously amiss.
danielpbarron: to me, a friend is someone who sincerely believes the Bible, or at the very least is sincerely interested in it
danielpbarron: and this is a very easy way to sort people that I meet. most people cannot stand to hear about it at all; a few can stand it, but they are not sincere
mircea_popescu: well, if the point is selection, then all this is working as intended, no ? you should be thrilled with the tool.
danielpbarron: this definition can work for others: substitute Bible for whatever your core belief is
☟︎ mircea_popescu never before heard of a guy who, upon receipt of a perfectly functioning megaweapon from god, asks same to kill him already.
danielpbarron: and that's not as it sounds, to die would mean to join Him in His kingdom
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron oh i c. so by now "i ask god to please kill me" reads more like "thanks god for ridding me of this dubiously faithed woman and her lures" ?
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, i dun think
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-26#1559249 works for me. i dun volunteer bitcoin discussions socially. ironically i'm apparently famous by now and people bring it up a lot, so i tend to answer whatever questions they got, but that's the length of it.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-10-26 19:49 danielpbarron: this definition can work for others: substitute Bible for whatever your core belief is
mircea_popescu: in the same vein i don't think i ever discussed the republic so far, a testament to how it's not a household item and so nobody knows to ask. i don't think i much care about anything else, and still i can't bring myself to give a shit about what anyone thinks of these, because why would i ?
diana_coman: fwiw to me daniel's posts on this + the thoughts expressed here on the necessity of shared "core beliefs" to qualify for friendship etc sound as an elaborate form of "I'm on my own, it's terribly lonely and it hurts"
mircea_popescu: anyway, what is it, "now that the gays can has marriage time for furies to push into mainstream", because who could have predicted and they've got a better shot than the child fuckers, who'll have to wait their turn ?
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, i wouldn't call bitcoin or the republic thereof your core beliefs. I'd say it'd be your stance on women and the poor.
danielpbarron: diana_coman, yeah that and, it's a good thing (good as in scripturally)
danielpbarron: and re: "dubiously faithed woman" ; yes that's actually what I prayed for: that she be won over to salvation or that we never get together, so that I would not be tempted to lose faith
shinohai: Women tempt, it's what they do danielpbarron
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] Genesis 3:6 :: And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
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pete_dushenski: shinohai: $200k is what proper tomes ~should~ cost. keeps the riffraff from getting their cheeto fingers on the good word.
shinohai: Not like you can just go pawn these sort of things for heroin though
pete_dushenski: shinohai: aha. same reason thieves steal honda accords not mclaren 570s
shinohai: In the US, I'd wager most dumb theives couldn't work the paddle shifters anyway
pete_dushenski: shinohai: heh. 'thief foiled by manual trans' is actually a pretty common headline these days. has been for ~decade.
pete_dushenski: dunno wat the hell they're teaching kids in school these days but is sure as hell isn't anything of practical import.
trinque: it's kinda interesting... the muslim guy says "I can't have a woman, so I'll kill everyone for god" and the christian says "I can't have a woman; god please kill me"
shinohai: So what does the Jew say "I want a get and 99% of all you own?"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski amusingly, 200k is just about what tomes DO cost. in eulora.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: just like chris rock said of women in his seminal 1999 stand-up 'bigger and blacker' : 'men want three things : food, fucking, and silence. y'know what women want ? everything!' jooz being feminine and matriarchal means they're forever unsatisfied with 'enough' regardless of gender.
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mircea_popescu: i dunno what he means, tbh. as far as i'm concerned, if she's obedient and tall enough there's exactly nothing more one can ask. if you don't like her tits you talk to a doctor ; if you don't like her ass she works out, each day, every day. all good ass is made not fallen from the sky, there are no excuses. if she doesn't know shit you teach her, if she has bad habits you train her, there's really naught more. this is a belie
mircea_popescu: and that poor fuckers nec ultra crepidam seems rather plain common sense. what next, 2nd law is a core belief ? not possibru, physics is universal.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you have to recall that from us govskool perspektiv, where most english-speakers 'learned' things about the world during their formative years, poor == bad IS blasphemy.
mircea_popescu: you can't say people not holding your beliefs are holding the belief of not-your-belief.
pete_dushenski: but in the same way that 'russia is doing propaganda but we're just having open debate that spreads democracy', so too does 'he has belief not me, i have usg.facts' 'work'
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i guess it depends. seeing how this is just absence...
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phf: ah, actually it's my bad. they also have when-let* that makes clauses depend on each other and shortcut on first failure. this is in parallel to let/let*, where let doesn't guarantee order of execution, so i guess shortcut makes no sense. a very pedantic take on the problem..
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, thay you liken your belief to thermodynamics kinda proves my point. my belief is as real to me (more even) as laws of nature
mircea_popescu: but it's not at issue whether it's real to me. it's real to you too, and verifiably so by you too, i don't have to enter into it.
mircea_popescu: that you can't buy a two dollar lolipop with a six quarters.
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