mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. "code IS much closer to x than y". "says who" "sayz me" "aokthen"
mircea_popescu: anyway - speaking of "misrepresentation hard to not see as wilful" - governments DO NOT regulate.
mircea_popescu: parliaments regulate. governments are not parliaments, nor are they legitimate, as a matter of principle, which is separable and also separate from the absent legitimacy of parliaments.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo publicly campaigning from President << for
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but the point that bitcoin is "right wing", which is to say, that it chokes socialism by its very nature, rather than by some sort of interpretation or ulterior human construction apparently finally landed
mircea_popescu: it's funny, reviewing the iraq conflict, just how much fucking romanian weaponry is involved.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo publicly campaigning from President << for << ty fxd
deedbot: mthreat voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: expanding details on the cert in chrome expanded the pane off the bottom of my screen
ben_vulpes: collapsing it did not undo the expansion
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you don't understand how websecuritits work.
mircea_popescu: stick to autoshop bodywork, these advanced webthingees not fer ya :D
ben_vulpes: heh topic of i'm trying to sell a third of my civic to my business partner in exchange for a very large turbo and his time installing it
ben_vulpes: tangentially tangentially, i dunno about these headlights, baby. i think i need to take 'em out and rattle them around for a few hours before i trust the connectors and re-seating job fully.
BingoBoingo: OMG that has to be the highest ratio of arm fat storage I have ever seen.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 434938 | Current Difficulty: 2.5852274840451544E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 435455 | Next Difficulty In: 517 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 635.0, vol: 2791.35995364 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 633.478, vol: 2996.44422 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 638.61, vol: 6600.92428158 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 640.912559, vol: 630684.40630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 636.99, vol: 585.90599856 | Volume-weighted last average: 640.825123593
Framedragger: (man, i am in dire need of multi-tier TODO lists (sorted by urgency and other things). my TODO text file is a mess.)
Framedragger: adlai: i've looked at it and i like it. i haven't used it!
Framedragger: i suspect it wouldn't be optimal in my case. i want ticket tags and stuff. dependency graph is of course nice.
mircea_popescu: this should be a thing, it occurs to me, if it could be aware of user so ppl in l1 can specify public or private.
adlai still uses orgmode, to mixed results
mircea_popescu: mod6 and once trinque gets the payment side of deedbot ready, you can even charge a fee!
shinohai: Can't use BTC because evil Trump uses it, we must "blockchain" instead.
shinohai wonders if CLIT devs are already secretly at work.
mircea_popescu: Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter.
mircea_popescu: shinohai the ven thing, it has nothing to do with blockchain, or with technology generally. it's the funniest thing you ever saw, a sort of etsy-paypal, made by the same sort of stunted minds that tried to push doge.
mircea_popescu: buncha mentally retarded but politically ambitious social-pseudosciences types trying to get ahead in the world as best they know how. which somehow, in their broken culture, does not mean twerking, for some reason.
shinohai: I was just about to say, it is obvious they will make a pseudo scientific effirt at creating a "cryptocurrency"
shinohai: That works exactly like paypal but better!
mircea_popescu: maybe they can hire that blonde chick with the alt-eth what was her name
shinohai: They left the eth part of it behind, no more lulz from that camp :(
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 does tb0t even run private sessions ? << ah, no currently it's just all public facing projects.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> this should be a thing, it occurs to me, if it could be aware of user so ppl in l1 can specify public or private. << ah, ok. i'll put some thought into this.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 and once trinque gets the payment side of deedbot ready, you can even charge a fee! << yeah, nice!
trinque: made great progress last weekend, got the rest of the various services of deedbot broken off into tidy separate projects.
mod6: cool. yeah, a neat payment model for private projects would be pretty sweet with deedbot.
☟︎ trinque: when the great schism occurred, I wrote the first cut of deedbot as quickly as possible as a single large blob of code.
☟︎ trinque: mod6: I'm considering bringing up common lisp UCI nodes once payment is done
☟︎ trinque: first customer of course being myself
☟︎ mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter. << lol, remember 'Test' ?
☟︎ mod6: the lels just keep on comin' eh
shinohai: I'm actually tired of Qntra'ing it all
mod6: well, fortunately qntra pays
shinohai: Yeah, hence I don't want to screw up a good thing lol by submitting trash all the time
trinque: pairs nicely with my sweden link
trinque: bitcoin terrorists must be stopped; ISIS terrorists need moar benefits!
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> btw BingoBoingo i submit something like "troubled hrc fundraisers despair of ever receiving support from bitcoin, comically look to ven in desperation" or such for the next roundup (sauce
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556416 ) << AHA, it's a firm mebbe for next one. Didn't fit flavor of recent electoral one.
☝︎ BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ BingoBoingo , qntra ? << of course
BingoBoingo: trinque: Nah, I'll let you write of the sweden
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:19 trinque: mod6: I'm considering bringing up common lisp UCI nodes once payment is done
adlai: pairing is the main moon math behind mumblejumble. one of my secondary hopes in going to milan was to leave with some rough understanding of pairings, but it has yet to crystallize.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:13 mod6: cool. yeah, a neat payment model for private projects would be pretty sweet with deedbot.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:14 trinque: when the great schism occurred, I wrote the first cut of deedbot as quickly as possible as a single large blob of code.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:20 trinque: first customer of course being myself
mircea_popescu: but this aside : HAVING the thing there will be very useful for some important areas of republican research. such as the most evident one - malleable computation. (ie, when you somehow structure your code so that others can help but can't discern what they're helping. this may or may not involve a well chosen cipher system).
mircea_popescu: the way this shit works is that nothing progresses science quite as much as the idle availability of specific precursors. which is both why alf has a point re the failure of us science and engineering being related to the criminalization of the garage teenager's bombmaking lab as well as to the general idea that "you get to have sex in college".
mircea_popescu: which is how, from my (unscientific, managerial) experience, notable breakthroughs happen
mircea_popescu: when the "adults" have fucked a topic to death to no-one's benefit, and the kids finally get their hands on it.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:31 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter. << lol, remember 'Test' ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:43 shinohai: < 24 hrs after hard fork to stop ETH attacks, another attack is ongoing and butterin suggest yet another fork will fix it:
http://archive.is/3XcGG mircea_popescu: then idiots want to know if mpex is for real. not you know, if nyse & nasdaq are.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556744 << the problem of the socialist state is that as it hijacks terminology to try and get an unwilling society to implement its policy, the ACTUAL subjects of the terminology and the PRETENDED subjects of the terminology become disjunct. and so this constant apparent hypocrisy whereby they wish to see diametrically opposed reaction to the same label.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:10 trinque: bitcoin terrorists must be stopped; ISIS terrorists need moar benefits!
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:13 asciilifeform: being the only ~serious industrial country in europe unwrecked by ww2, and full of german sympathizers, it 'musted die'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "drugs are bad mkay take this ritalin" sorta thing. << Why use the PC name and not call it Kid-amphetamine?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for that matter, why is it ok for union thug to brainwash 12 yo into idiocy which is called "schooling", but it is not ok for kiddy fucker to brainwash 12 yo into idiocy, which is called "grooming".
mircea_popescu: it's ~just as stupid for the kid inquestion to imagine the state is good and paying taxes is not rape as it is for the same kid to imagine whoring is a future plan and so on.
mircea_popescu: somehow i'm supposed to take umbrage to brothel-living tween who can't do basic math ; but i'm supposed to see no problem whatsoever with school-going tween who can't basic math. because reasons.
mircea_popescu: as if i actually give a fuck how many dicks it can or does take.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Really splits the middle. More like amphetamine though because nearly all its activity is on dopamine and norepinephrine.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 17:23 adlai: pairing is the main moon math behind mumblejumble. one of my secondary hopes in going to milan was to leave with some rough understanding of pairings, but it has yet to crystallize.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because one has visible bleeding from the butt and the other has metaphysical butt bleeding.
mircea_popescu: this is a myth, much exactly the same as "masturbation will make you blind".
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, used to be good state-science decades ago.
mircea_popescu: nowadays the good state-science being, of course, "taking it in the ass and eating a lot of soy won't castrate you".
mircea_popescu: bullshit idiots push to those clueless enough to eat it up.
BingoBoingo: Oh, no I mean the physical butt bleeding happens at Union thug schools, because the wider world is merging with the world of James Lafond Presents Baltimore
trinque: on that note, last week some mexican dude broke into my sister's neighbor's apt, raped chick inside, tried to kill her. noteworthy cuckland lul of it being that it was his second visit to the property in a month or so.
trinque: texas has the misfortune of having jerbs for the past couple decades.
trinque: all sorts of people moving here.
trinque: californians have been colonizing Austin in particular
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Requires a "True Texan"(TM)(R) who actually has kalash
trinque: don't ask me; I give shotgun shells to unwanted visitors like any gentleman.
BingoBoingo: Californian? Yes! They believe in simply staying out of "Bad Neighborhoods" and tiny bottles of OC/CS.
trinque: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bull
trinque: hm, that has a result, but wrong one
trinque: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls
mircea_popescu: incidentally : it occurs to me we might be well advised to run an advertising campaign along the lines of "No University in the world can rival the Republic's own STEM research lab".
mircea_popescu: would this be something teh foundation might consider sponsoring, ben_vulpes mod6 ?
mircea_popescu: and any of the marketing minded fellows want to make the website ?
mircea_popescu: trinque what do you mean second visit ? like he worked there befoar ?
trinque: like he raped there befoar
mircea_popescu: so they basically have an ongoing arrangement ? like they do in south africa ?
trinque: yeah, seems like he's pretty comfortable coming back to that spot
mircea_popescu: put it on google ads / facebook ads / twitter ads, whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: go on fiver and pay people to fill the uni campuses with fliers.
mircea_popescu: it resulted in 0 press coverage, even from the derpy campus newspapers which evidently have nothing to report on (but hey, socialist butthurt) ; however it did produce ample fresh beaver supplies, which is what ads are for after all.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 18:26 trinque: phf: ^ result count busted
phf: which goes back to mp's very wise "don't mess with counts"
phf: fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74
phf: !#s from:phf fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74
mircea_popescu: i wrote some code to make the life of eulora players more confusing. i spent half hour writing it and one hour fighting fence errors.
phf: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls
phf: i'm now explicitly removing query message from results, which i think produces most appropriate counts
phf: !#s 3dbd372cbf1a3e320868e280d67a961bc07927da
BingoBoingo guesses Trilema review of "manhattan project" is next?
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: phf getting some linux boxen from which to host the #sane-clim / #masamune irc channel + logs either this friday or the next. Any chance you'll be releasing the logger at some point so that I don't have to write my own?
phf: check your pm, but since that's a public question, i'll also answere here. i'm not going to go through work of releasing of logger in the immediate future, but i can dedicate some time to making sure logger can attach and track multiple channels, host masamune logs for you. this is aligned with a cleanup work that i was going to do, and i might as well do it next
phf: logger right now is a big ball of mud that includes V, parts of bitcoin protocol, logger itself with xref, irc bot and a kitchen sink of entire lisp ecosystem :>
trinque: gabriel_laddel: offended by postgresql?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: nein. whatever you've got to do to use CLIM in the day-to-day is fine with me.
trinque: and let me know when your IRC is up; I'll be joining.
trinque: that said if phf is happy to run a logger for you, his own log-viewer is pretty damned fly
trinque: my thing has no viewer written
trinque: thread reference is going to be indispensible for digestion of the clim-wad
phf: gabriel_laddel: have you explored clim2? i'm curious what state it's in. i want to at least try and spin it up on ACL to see how bit rotted it is, what it looks like, etc. i vaguely suspect it might be better clim baseline than mcclim
gabriel_laddel: phf: It isn't, though it has implemented every form McCLIM is missing.
gabriel_laddel: It has useful comments too, but the CFFI makes it a no-go for me.
phf: oh it cffi's to gtk or somesuch?
gabriel_laddel: I have nfi, just saw that they utilize a cffi at some point. I interviewed at franz and talked with them about it (this is why it was released?) -- they have no vision and I consider anything they touch to be tainted.
gabriel_laddel: Franz Inc. implemented an entirely new CL GUI toolkit on top of windows and pay people to update it when windows updates.
trinque: but windows is usg.approved
trinque: gabriel_laddel: any idea how many client contracts they survive on?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah ima do the one where marisa tomei is a stripper next i think
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel prolly best to have both your own logger and a 2nd backup. redundancy ftw.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: as a "client": kiwiirc on a bad connection, beirc if in the mood or default to emacs "host": nfi, never done it.
phf: gabriel_laddel: franz have been living in frontline foxholes since before you knew what a computer was, i don't think masamune is there yet to judge their methods
mircea_popescu: uh. i thought you measnt actually hosting the channel.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I will be, but as of yet have not even googled for a guide on how to do so.
mircea_popescu: phf he judged it for himself mind, not telling you what to do.
gabriel_laddel: phf: what sort of company lives in foxholes for over 25 years?!
mircea_popescu: and in the butthurt of all time, trump ahead in polls. o noes.
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not telling him what to do either; i sometimes rant alongside asciilifeform, but i don't actually think gabriel_laddel should be doing something differently.
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: this is like the three stooges slapstik
gabriel_laddel: To answer my own question: living in a foxhole for 25 years turns you into a faggot who thinks oakland is "up and coming"
mircea_popescu: depends dood. lenin lived in a swisshole for 30 years.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lulz of all lulz is that well... not only jill stein is poisoning the clinton vote ; but so is johnson, some-fucking-how.
mircea_popescu: apparently in a contest with a popular revolutionary, the best way to lose is to play establishment. everyone eats your vote.
gabriel_laddel: The franz "foxhole" == writing parsers for whoever comes along and pays them to do so, failing to exploit the most obvious benefit of lisp, surrendering the whole competitive advantage.
mircea_popescu: opengl owned the video market for a decade, did nothing with it so microshit could catch up.
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again?
trinque knows a method that works every time
gabriel_laddel cannot deliver this masamune machine until the wifi works and wtf am I missing here
deedbot: AforA voiced for 30 minutes.
AforA: I came here from loper OS. holy hell, wow. I've been wrecking my mind about something awfully similar for /months/ now and only now found this, good lord
mircea_popescu: you've got what, 5 years or so of logs to go through now ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol at lafond getting out of his ditch experiencing "real america".
AforA: joined myself to IRC first, orienting now. ;) my thinking right now to deal with that amount of data is to shove the entire logs into infranodus.com, but that'll get reevaluate before; after I'm done reading the non-log part :)
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 23:55 mircea_popescu: which is the non-log part ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 23:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, lt onoda died recently.