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mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to be precise : i can't turn the greek string into an english string for you for the same reason you can't turn trb into lisp code for me. "but alf, it compiles! a lisp version must exist!" hurr. i don't propose "because you can't take object code and make me lisp source it follows no c sources existed" do i ?
asciilifeform: i don't even see this as specifically greek - it is standard 'blub effect', modern plankton thinks 'maths is what i learned in kindergarten', negative space -- universal
mircea_popescu: so, yes : science, and i don't here mean, globalwarmism or pseudoevolutionism or lulzgametheory or such ; but - physics. astronomy, things of serious. these didn't develop methodically, in history, but exactly through a process of "try random batshit and it sometimes works".
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I don't think you know how wood is marketed. There SPF or "Spruce, Pine, Fir" for the ones that suck because the bulk of particular kinds of softwoods all suck in the same ways. Then you get outlifers which are also lumped together like Douglas Fir and Larch or the 3-ish species of Southern yellow pine.
mircea_popescu: i just don't go for the whole carny show with the facepaint and the star wars papier mache models.
mircea_popescu: no, it wasn't, as i don't actually propose any changes to processblock. it can go wholesale in b.blockchain
phf: yeah, that's what it looks like. i wonder if in your explorations of state of rng you came across any offical GCB evaluation of casino rngs, i don't know if those would even be public or have technical detail...
ben_vulpes: and i don't recall it well enough to find. alas.
asciilifeform: aaaah see i don't rotate.
ben_vulpes: i don't expect to be able to make an rpc call while the node is looping through its list of peers and get 'the right' peer shat out
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586638 << i was able to reproduce a very similar effect. simply throw blocks at a node that don't fail verification until the very end. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose it isn't to be a surprise that in a world where the doctor expects you to pay him for him to do what ~he~ feels ; and the lawyer is strictly shocked that his position as counsel is STRICTLY to do all the legwork you don't feel like doing and absolutely not to do any of the cool management stuff, cuz you're paying and you're gonna be eating that - the charity dudes similarly expect nsa oodlebunches of moneyz
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586446 << i think you mentioned before, but you had some sikrit hardware raid that you were reasonably happy with? i've been doing some cleanup on my data, throwing out old usb drives and such, i've been meaning to replace software raid (which is ... spotty) with something that i don't have to think about ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well he says ukraine, i don't imagine he means sevastopol.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the notion that russia was at some point popular in the ukraine is utterly insane. when was this exactly, i don't get it, before or after the muscovy went to space ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most folks run for the hills when i say 'yes in asm, and no you don't get to use any existing code'
trinque: because I don't always know what the fuck I want!
mircea_popescu: that's broadly the idea - "mommy, what should i do if johnny wants to plug my virgin ass ?" "don't let him ?" "what if i can't ?" "you can" "what if magical alien from afar comes and he has magical powers and i really can't ?" "oh, no, HIM you spread for."
mod6: i don't love this feature as it introduces complexity and an edge-case that mig-pilot needs to be aware of in the first place. but i'll consider it based on the idea that the complexity can be contained.
shinohai: "How did we get hacked? I just don't understand, employee information was so secure!" http://www.nerc.com/AboutNERC/Resource%20Documents/roster.pdf
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how software works. there's a very clear denied middle : it is either the product of a ~lone individual~, or else of a corporation. there is no multiple-people-work-without-usg-foundations-and-crap in most people's minds, because there isn't such a thing is most people's experience.
phf: unix also had a lot more of an organic decentralized approach, beyond mans i don't think anybody actual read anything on the subject of unix (a few key books, like k&r or steven's on tcpip). pretty sure people would just grab the source and learn by exploration
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: don't think that's nonsense - it's simply introducing a bias into choosing "which direction - left or right - should i prefer", no? or do you mean that it's not "realistic" and would look stupid? (maybe...)
danielpbarron: i don't see how moving forward more or less after having turned a random angle would change the overall pattern
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1585207 << hehe pretty nice, like a monk scribing down book patch. btw danielpbarron, your Pi constant has a typo: you have 3.1415926545, should be 3.1415926535 (don't ask, i like memorizing useless stuff) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: this didn't seem worth the evaluation so i passed it) a "pyramid of science" pecking order may well be involved, in the sense that "oh, we learned null sets in kindergarten" and phf's english, while formally fine, does not actually serve him well enough to convey this difference i don't suspect. g) what's "das man" ? h) how did ph
mod6: Eh, I don't even think I like my own idea.
Framedragger: (but i think i got it why you don't want binary tarball - it'd sure be nice to be able to host a plaintext package, with v sigs etc right there. hm. but then why deedbot the *whole* thing - why not deedbot only hashes of tarball version of webthing. make webthing available to view, but also for those who wish to verify via deedbot, too, make tarball available. not pretty, but worx for *now*.)
asciilifeform: i don't see any of the available options as 'fit' !!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584892 << i would say that pretending the integration "was already done", as if it were some sort of artefact like an oven rather than a process, like respiration ; or pretending that "someone else" is responsible for it being done (such as don't say word x in front of person y because o noes they're too frail to manage) is pure infantilism. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: f get to be su intellectuals ? i'm not saying he is or isn't, it's just not clear. i) why do we think whatever intellectuals do or don't do has any impact on what eventually happens ? j) maybe russians just shed a skin, like reptiles ? their decline was kinda brief and they came out of it with fire under butt, apparently. certainly if you look at "which white man nation has a shot of being still around in 2116" ru doesn't bot
mircea_popescu: this didn't seem worth the evaluation so i passed it) a "pyramid of science" pecking order may well be involved, in the sense that "oh, we learned null sets in kindergarten" and phf's english, while formally fine, does not actually serve him well enough to convey this difference i don't suspect. g) what's "das man" ? h) how did ph ☟︎
mircea_popescu: d by you. this one true largest gap in the theory of knowledge can not in practice ever be bridged, and must be allowed for. e) i don't understand which of the two examples given is a strawman nor how do the two examples given map to the conversation as it went. f) it seems to me very dubious altogether that there was a pecking order, as in, who's teh greatest lord consideration involved. on 2nd pass analysis (cuz originally
trinque: it's on the record. I don't need to make more hay of it.
trinque: I think I've long demonstrated that I don't cling to a disproved belief.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, how can anyone admit to having a github myspace nowadays ?
asciilifeform: btw i was mistaken, you don't need nonempty mempool
ben_vulpes: i don't think it's quite as simple as 'brew install eulora', although it was close
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just to clarify so you don't think i'm trying to fuck around, i mean that all predicates would be true under null set. i don't find that to be a good idea. that's all
Framedragger: i don't know how a logician can entertain the latter. well, many things can be entertained, but it's not exactly.. how shall i put it.. ontologically economic?
Framedragger: hey i thought trinque unrating phf was a stupid reactionary thing. don't use this as a red herring.
Framedragger agrees. (but fwiw i don't think it's legit even in terms of logical analysis, even before practical considerations)
phf: trinque: i don't get it
mircea_popescu: i don't teach math by computer either. it's like teaching cooking by washing socks.
Framedragger: (that being said, /me considers working part-time in the future to come, and working more on personal/worthy projects on the side. i don't know how asciilifeform is tmsr-productive while doing other stuff full-time - maybe i should go on a modafinil diet heh)
mircea_popescu: on which note i should wish to muchly encourage the ~competent~ youth to not fear "suicide" of this nature. it's a control artefact implanted by the socialist motherhood for their detriment, a sort of imaginary pain box of the bene gesserit. there's no reason to even HAVE a "group of women who don't fuck" as a political entity, let alone ridoinculous imaginary boxes.
Framedragger: i don't even
mircea_popescu: i honestly don't know anyone (who is someone, i don't mean kids with no money, no power and no value dicking about ; and who isn't actually nsa) is still using the thing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1583914 << btw, i'm hosting a copy of the whole file, so you don't get hammered too badly. ☝︎
trinque: I don't think much of luck, so I'll say do well instead!
mircea_popescu: there's something i don't understand. if 3 mods pop at the same time like this, shouldn't it be because they shared a factor ?
shinohai: Dear lord, if I find a bug, I certainly don't want to report it, I want to hide it away for future use, if any!
phf: fwiw play on mac scripts didn't add anything except for a dodgy point and click interface that downloads a bunch of stuff i don't need. game still doesn't play well with native rendering. i suspect tha some specific binary blob version of directx (or precursor?) will solve the issue, but...
phf: nah, just wanted to play mm7 on my mac. if i was building nostalgiatron, i'd just put a windows 95 on it, tbh. if i don't put an x60 to good use, i might just that to it
ben_vulpes: lmk when i don't have to pay for useless insurance any more
pete_dushenski: lol. being chinese is so fucking opposite of being a jew i don't even know where to start. number 1 selling book in nigeria might as well be "how to raise child like a norwegian"
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you grok the basics. which is understandable - nobody does.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why.
BingoBoingo: Except I don't get to play with the food as much.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582795 << you live in an alt world. i don't think ANY car in buenos aires EVER averaged 50/hr over a whole day of its entire its lifetime. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in wetware these are stress-switched (which is why "stress" even exists in mammals) ; but i don't expect hardware to be able to reconfigure my machine from one to the other - just as long as it does either well i can buy two machines.
asciilifeform: i don't expect an answer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't suspect he's using THAT part.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 17:16 phf: davout: it's easier to find an instructor, than it is to "find any private pilot". plus you know asciilifeform objection "i don't know any private pilots"
ben_vulpes: in specific grading a lisp 'c' for 'prototyping support' (review panel completely ignorant of repls i suppose) and 'c' for 'high level structuring' (macros don't exist i guess?)
davout: where i live you don't just "buy stuff"
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582844 << 'experimental' i don't think needs license. ☝︎
davout: ah yeah, i don't think there's much of that to be had
davout: i don't think it's the "piloting" part that's attractive to me, but more the "let's go see the sun" when all the other derps are stuck under a shitty stratus shittus overcast layer
phf: asciilifeform: i don't have any peripherals. i use it for their instrument challenges, and they also have a mode where they randomly fail something in the plane and you need to figure out what do. that sort of stuff
phf: davout: it's easier to find an instructor, than it is to "find any private pilot". plus you know asciilifeform objection "i don't know any private pilots" ☟︎
Framedragger: i don't know how it is in the .us and it's prolly *quite* a bit more complicated than that, also i had the lucky chance of having a relative who'd invite to fly with him and show me basic flight control stuff, but are you not able to get lessons as a total noob?
davout: i don't flightsim
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582413 << they don't show it to me on 10.9, possibly because i'm now a heathen beyond redemption ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'A language designed to live in the paper-tape world had to have some major constraints. First, paper tape is slow. Really slow. And punching tape is a miserable process. So you really wanted to keep things as short as possible. So the syntax of TECO is, to put it mildly, absolutely mind-boggling. Every character is a command. And I don't mean "every punctuation character", or "every letter". Every character is a command. Letters, nu
mircea_popescu: well i don't much use emacs so. it must be why.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly and i guess unhelpfully, i'm wondering if once specified as above, you don't also get a router for cheap (through implementing a sort of physics where routes attract each other and are repulsed by things etc)
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-12#1582015 << i actually tried one of those against the svg, and without netlist knowledge it gets funky (edges don't properly touch nodes, because rounding) ☝︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-12#1581952 << ircbot and logbot don't actually depend on each other in V sense, so there's not much i can do about it (unless i'm missing the issue) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-12 15:13 mircea_popescu: somehow however i don't seem to ever want that.
mircea_popescu: "for banal www as long as i don't look for things anyone in the libertard camp may object to, conceivably"
mircea_popescu: it also doesn't do anything, because yes srsly, i don't need to "google trump" to find trump's facebook page.
mircea_popescu: oh, but when i want stuff from the log i also don't google
mircea_popescu: somehow however i don't seem to ever want that. ☟︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: nono - sorry for confusing - "older" as in "previously seen in same logfile", it's for my internal use so i don't go insane. all of this is from single scan even in 13-14 june.
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care, myself, but i can't seem to bring any argument that'd stand when someone decides "fuck him, he's a microsoft tool".
asciilifeform: but i don't see a good argument for fucking it but not to deaoth
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't want unreadable turds in v trees either.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 19:14 phf: binary blobs remain an unsolved problem. the whole idea of binary (or base64) is contrary to some of the more philosophical aspects of vpatch you and mp like to discuss, so i don't know if base64 even solves it.
jurov: i don't see what's the problem with having 8-10x more data
jurov: MIME avoids this by generating unique magic strings as delimiters after the fact. but you don't want to, i guess.
mircea_popescu: just drop the whole imagination thing, it ain't useful. it just provides a way for you to waste your energy. go do things, if you ask then "hey, i am now opening shop for adlai's electronic dildos, but i don't intend to do X like nsa did, but this other way, anyone see a problem?" you'll get an answer and proceed from there.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 18:12 Framedragger: fwiw i still like moxie, but it's sad that he's doing the "i don't use gpg anymore" thing, too
phf: binary blobs remain an unsolved problem. the whole idea of binary (or base64) is contrary to some of the more philosophical aspects of vpatch you and mp like to discuss, so i don't know if base64 even solves it. ☟︎
adlai: i don't think "+++ " can be a valid (subseq line 0 4)
Framedragger: fwiw i still like moxie, but it's sad that he's doing the "i don't use gpg anymore" thing, too ☟︎
Framedragger: well.. that's one of the problems. i don't really keep names in my mind, it's not worth the space. sorry if i implied that i'd be able to point at anything interesting
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I don't think keybase allows you to generate keys anymore...you have to supply them...