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assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mt9wC0 )
assbot: Theory | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUSEPG )
nubbins`: one of these days i'mma read up on exactly wtf phuctor is doing
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mircea_popescu: jurov a ok. well phuctor propers like what, 1/5 done or so. will add your lot then for sure.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2015#1157138 << you basically running a phuctor-for-rsa on your own ? give it a site! ☝︎
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1KjEfmy )
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mircea_popescu: by now phuctor's dredged up enough material for a spy novel. "what does muryokoin temple, the australian pirate party and debian/gnu have in common ?"
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 06:16:02; mircea_popescu: yes, moduli that it flags should be put through a proper factorization. this is a task a) separate from what phuctor does and b) to be done indepentently of what phuctor does.
assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1dU0jIr )
jurov: it won't stop running soon. i have in pipeline some 1e6 rsa keys from github i'd like to kindly bestow upon phuctor
mircea_popescu: and if nobody does it, we'll do it, once phuctor's done running.
mircea_popescu: you don't include bakeries into wheat harvesters to be driven across wheat fields, and you don't need phuctor to do everything either.
mircea_popescu: yes, moduli that it flags should be put through a proper factorization. this is a task a) separate from what phuctor does and b) to be done indepentently of what phuctor does. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: at the time phuctor was designed in 2013, the idea was that no keys could ever be factored. for this purpose, phuctor as designed is exactly adequate.
asciilifeform: the mechanics of a correct phuctor are, roughly: thing keeps track of keys, rsa moduli within, as existing phuctor does; but instead of flagging 'phuctored' moduli, we keep table of known factors (associated with respective unknowns, which, in turn, may be yet-unphuctored moduli -or- fragments previously created by successful phuctorings)
asciilifeform just woke up to the fact that he was a fool when originally wrote phuctor. a phuctored modulus must fragment into factors, each of which is in turn subject to all future attempts at phuctoring
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> thing is, it is actually possible for the same phuctor url to be new twice. << it'll be fine im sure.
williamdunne: In this case I may have to make a custom set of rules for Phuctor
asciilifeform: thing is, it is actually possible for the same phuctor url to be new twice.
asciilifeform: i recall that mircea_popescu asked for a real-time phuctor ticker.
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asciilifeform: 1) phuctor now has 'download this key' link
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asciilifeform: actually it is worth pointing out that most of the newsturds specifically -did not- link to phuctor
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 23:25:27; danielpbarron: i assumed anything that he might have read that pointed to this channel would have also linked to the real phuctor but yeah ok
asciilifeform: alphonse23_: 'phuctor' deals only with traditional rsa keys.
asciilifeform: alphonse23_: author of 'phuctor' speaking. you had questions ? ☟︎
danielpbarron: i assumed anything that he might have read that pointed to this channel would have also linked to the real phuctor but yeah ok ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 16:48:57; asciilifeform: the idea of phuctor is to detect duplicate privatekey material in use anywhere. the reuse of one particular divisor is only one possible scenario - it is also possible that a very ham-handedly sabotaged pgptron somewhere reuses a whole pair of factors - that is, two or more strangers may, somewhere, share an entire private key.
jurov: like EDDF63E ... and looks like it was submitted to phuctor directly, i can't find it on sks keyserver
asciilifeform: jurov: phuctor deals -only- with rsa moduli.
asciilifeform: the idea of phuctor is to detect duplicate privatekey material in use anywhere. the reuse of one particular divisor is only one possible scenario - it is also possible that a very ham-handedly sabotaged pgptron somewhere reuses a whole pair of factors - that is, two or more strangers may, somewhere, share an entire private key. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i thought of adding a download link on individual key pages, but then folks will be tempted to use phuctor as a key server
BingoBoingo: Phuctor is closing in on half a million moduli
ascii_field: it has nothing to do with phuctor proper
mircea_popescu: what's whis by now, phuctor three major and twelve minor revisiona later
davout: copypaste: also feed them to phuctor
Grouper2182: I liked the operation called Phuctor.
Adlai: "phuctor's P" << you mean Π(∀n) ?
mircea_popescu: if anyone feels like downloading phuctor's P and trying all these types of divisors on it see if we already contain one
funkenstein_: big congrats go out to phuctor team from dwarven contingency
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell asciilifeform here's a thought : we had 15 broken keys when phuctor had seen 159k keys ; and we have 19 now, it's just a shade under 200k. curious if the 1 in 10k thing keeps throughout the 4mn
mircea_popescu: of course, any of these twerps peanut-gallery-ing around COULD use their time to do any of the useful things obviously allowed by phuctor having, generously and very uncharacteristically for THEIR FIELD published a lot of raw results
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Which is the value of Phuctor signing a sucks cocks message
BingoBoingo: Suggestion: For every broken moduli Phuctor signs a message "lol, I suck cocks" from factored keys
trinque: watching the phuctor story unfold as a bystander, it really opens ones eyes to the... call it participatory nature of a totalitarian system
Apocalyptic: phuctor was live in 2013 ?
Apocalyptic: I submit it to phuctor, its screams "Moduli factored !"
mircea_popescu: nao, linking "phuctor" anchor to usg-replacement.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field : http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/89713/offline-rsa-strong-prime-test-similar-to-phuctor << shilling intensifies!
ascii_field: http://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/36mi86/if_you_are_on_this_list_phuctor_may_have_your_pgp/ << shitsquad pushed 'the button' nulling 'ups' it appears, l0l
mircea_popescu: anyway, enough stuff in phuctor's wake to keep dozens of crypto researchers busy for monthys if not years.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2015#1136459 << i agree, this is one of the better derivative works to be had on the basis of the phuctor results. ☝︎
ascii_field: 'It doesn't work when Nadia Heninger goes to sell Phuctor before Stanford - Nadia Heninger doesn't own Phuctor, and the actual owners are very much present and very much capable to bitchslap her into oblivion.' << actually, 'crime pays.' chick gets a phd and cushy sinecure, etc. ☟︎
LC^: I want to write an article about your Phuctor-related findings.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9561547 << check it out, people were doing lectures at stanford about phuctor, omitting to mention phuctor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/full-disclosure-4096-rsa-key-in-the-strongset-factored/#comment-114226 "Because Phuctor shows me an Internal Server Error when I try to test a key."
assbot: Logged on 17-05-2015 15:59:46; adlai: jurov: yes, at least two keys need to have a primer in common. had phuctor run over the keys in reverse order, it would've found the other chump first
davout: the bet was misworded from the beginning, had someone intentionally created a set of shitty keys and fed the to the phuctor, it would resolve as yes
assbot: Logged on 17-05-2015 16:10:13; mircea_popescu: achtung BingoBoingo cazalla : phuctor broke a rsa.
asciilifeform: any student could build 'phuctor'
BingoBoingo: What a fucking morning to sleep in !!! Digesting Convos around Phuctor's discovery and writing up some news.
mircea_popescu: and we'll have a pretty decent picture once phuctor's done walking the set, which looks like a coupla months
mircea_popescu: it seems tempting, tho there are sticking points. but in any case, as phuctor progresses we'll get a better idea.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol dude's story is that he's replicated the results of phuctor since late march ?
davout: few extra features to implement for the phuctor... also nice to have: "throw list of URLs at it, it fetches the SSL cert and tries to factor it"
davout: mircea_popescu: it would be better for the phuctor itself to do it
davout: it would probably make sense for the phuctor to start munching SSL certs as well
mircea_popescu: d34th you mean phuctor ? it's cpu
jurov: phuctor discards comments, i guess
trinque: holy phuctor
asciilifeform: i posted werker in #b-a a few days after phuctor went public
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, isn't Π(∀n) the product of all the modulus treated by phuctor ? how do you get $schmuck-Q * $otherschmuck-Q by dividing it by (schmuck-P ^ 2) ?
jurov: asciilifeform: phuctor rejects this: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x0E280B593F9A01F9
assbot: You rated user asciilifeform on 30-Nov-2013, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: He came up with the Cardano For Christmas marketing plan. Also phuctor..
mircea_popescu: achtung BingoBoingo cazalla : phuctor broke a rsa. ☟︎
adlai: jurov: yes, at least two keys need to have a primer in common. had phuctor run over the keys in reverse order, it would've found the other chump first ☟︎
asciilifeform: phuctor does not send automatic emails. to anyone. so, let's see what happens when mircea_popescu writes to mr schmuck
adlai: (phuctor now knows the factorization of a single key, and it knows which of the two prime factors is shared with the second bugger)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell kakobrekla https://bitbet.us/bet/1144/phuctor-will-find-a-bad-key can be resolved? get the necessary data from mircea_popescu
mod6: was just gonna check on the phuctor stats
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform upon further meditation : the sum total of neededchanges to phuctor is, make keys introduced via web go to top of pile, while keys introduced by cutter of db go to bottom of pile. this is all, really.
mircea_popescu: !rate asciilifeform 4 He came up with the Cardano For Christmas marketing plan. Also phuctor.
mats: does phuctor have an externally accessible api?
assbot: BitBet - Phuctor will find a bad key :: 0.02 B (2%) on Yes, 1.08 B (98%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 94`192 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1IjOLuk )