mod6: trinque: i've got it, thanks
NewLiberty: Is it ironic that you !up me, when it is your -1 rating that prevents me from doing so myself?
NewLiberty: You're just making more work for yourself. lol
NewLiberty: Looks like assbot changed from needing >=0 to needing >0 for !up
danielpbarron: do you still think a hard fork is "acceptable for expediency's sake" ?
assbot: A few things. I was not planning on getting involved in this conversation, but s... | Hacker News ... (
http://bit.ly/1eXb90p )
decimation: "A few things. I was not planning on getting involved in this conversation, but since dang decided to un-flag it, I'm going to leave one or two comments, but don't plan on sticking around very much. "
decimation: This Steve Klabnik guy obviously calls shots on HN, and is also a left-wing radical. Apparently he was also among those who protested yarvin on twitter.
BingoBoingo: I'm just wondering... How the fuck does one get labeled too conservative for a conference in Missouri?
mircea_popescu: decimation who is steve klabnik and why would anyone care ?
decimation: apparently he's among those who 'influenced' the guy in charge of this conference in st louis
decimation: in order to convince him to blackball yarvin from the conference
decimation: interestingly the guy who is organizing the conference apparently works on clojure
cazalla: why do those guys always look the same
mircea_popescu: cazalla for the same reason starlets generally look the same.
mircea_popescu: decimation i have my doubts re this entire calling shots thing, but whatevs.
decimation: well, 'calling the shots' as in 'appear vaguely threatening on twitter'
mircea_popescu: it is every adolescent boy's dearest dream and hottest hope to misrepresent himself as a shot-caller in company,
decimation: it seems likely that he either 'flagged' the post or knew a moderator who could
mircea_popescu: and it is every neotenic usian's highest aspiration, to remain a derpy adolescent way in his 50s
decimation: not exactly high in the social world if you think about it though
mircea_popescu: or fail that, it seems likely he typed words in a web box.
mircea_popescu: is yarvin even racist, other than simply being stupid ?
decimation: I mean, he certainly affirms the falsehoods of egalitarianism
mircea_popescu: i thought racism was when you wouldn't fuck naomi campbell or shakira because you don't stick your junk in garbage.
decimation: heh I guess, in which case I suspect a significant number of white males in the us would qualify
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, wtf's going on in the country of the fair ? back in the 80s they had superhot black supermodels and blondy madonna was tag teaming them with rappers
mircea_popescu: today ? who's the campbell of today so i'm not stuck using old prunes in my illustrative koans.
decimation: you know it's a good point. somehow the whole 'multiracial marriage/dating' thing has gone way off the burner in the us
decimation: I mean, you are a racist if you think every human isn't identical, but not if you only date white girls
assbot: "He has *literally* written that several of his co-speakers are genetically more... | Hacker News ... (
http://bit.ly/1eXeaO8 )
mircea_popescu: i'm sure there must be a wankfest dedicated to this topic somewhere, purring in the basement waiting for its time to feed at the public trough
decimation: yeah the overton window hasn't extended there yet
decimation: "Frankly, I'm actually considering recanting. Who wouldn't rather be Galileo than Giordano Bruno? But recanting is a serious matter - it's the sort of thing you need to get right the first time."
mircea_popescu: attention whores trying to bilk attention out of attention whores ?
assbot: Logged on 07-06-2015 18:58:33; decimation: I suspect many of these 'free giveaways' for credit monitoring are merely trojan horse marketing schemes
mircea_popescu: and worked it like the old style porn scams, just keep billing all your ccs
☟︎ decimation: yeah I think it kinda works that way actually
decimation: it's one of those things you can call up old ladies and sell to them
assbot: Logged on 07-06-2015 22:15:30; danielpbarron: ^ all the users idling in here with a key registered and 0 in assbot's l2
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decimation: ben_vulpes: it wasn't in reference to this article, that's why I linked it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49750 @ 0.0003496 = 17.3926 BTC [+]
agorecki: Why do I still have voice after an hour and a half?
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 03:14:44; mircea_popescu: and worked it like the old style porn scams, just keep billing all your ccs
decimation: asciilifeform: usia is not a land of 'exit'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84800 @ 0.00034962 = 29.6478 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00035127 = 10.1517 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: found an ubuntu partition on my ancient mac
ben_vulpes: and the update manager nags me about 14.04 every time i run apt-get
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00035127 = 4.2855 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00035127 = 8.8344 BTC [+]
jurov: catholics have better system. we can do anything as long as we confess with genuine remorse afterwards.
jurov: it's not so hard to feel such after, say, reading trilema
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assbot: Victoria proposes forcing suspected radicalised teenagers into programs | Australia news | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1QhoyBi )
cazalla: another state, Queensland, has something similar whereby bikies are not permitted to associate with other bikies even if no crime has previously or is planned to be committed
shinohai: That sounds more Canadian than Australian ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65300 @ 0.00035052 = 22.889 BTC [-]
cazalla: aeroplane tatt.. i think that's a first for me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00035127 = 4.4611 BTC [+]
shinohai: Because she's gonna wreck you like 9/11
davout: cazalla: i'd totally request a clearance
davout: "Requesting clearance to land in runway charlie uniform mike november!!1"
davout: "correction, charlie uniform november tango"
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.00035127 = 9.537 BTC [+]
jurov: davout, you're still trying osx eulora?
jurov: ben_vulpes failed miserably
davout: jurov: no, i have a proper box nao
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53400 @ 0.00035127 = 18.7578 BTC [+]
assbot: DakotaChiliBeans comments on Block Size Conservatives - Build Your Alternatives, Then We Won't Have To Lift Again ... (
http://bit.ly/1IxQA7s )
gribble: Current Blocks: 359988 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 875 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
gribble: Current Blocks: 359990 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 873 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48871674432.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.69404
jurov: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far have 733k phathub rsa keys, of these 19 have factors 3,5,17 or 23
☟︎ jurov: if my code is correct, that is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63417 @ 0.00034622 = 21.9562 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: now doing second batch, there is a dude with ALL keys broken
jurov: second batch results 795857 keys, 4 bad, 46 phucked total.
jurov: interesting that 641 nor 6700417 appeared, only smaller primes
☟︎ jurov: only interim results, it's still slurping the keys. ofc there will be writeup
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 218714 @ 0.00034603 = 75.6816 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40517 @ 0.0003457 = 14.0067 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181300 @ 0.00034567 = 62.67 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Current Blocks: 359999 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 864 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48815290596.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.57556
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00034561 = 11.4397 BTC [-]
jurov: bots are already considered
mircea_popescu: ima put up a job later for irc/freenode integration in chat, just fyi.
mod6: morning mircea_popescu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00035127 = 9.4843 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 08:30:28; jurov: it's not so hard to feel such after, say, reading trilema
mircea_popescu: gives employment to the otherwise useless schoolage aussies too.
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 10:51:10; davout: "correction, charlie uniform november tango"
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 12:48:13; jurov: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far have 733k phathub rsa keys, of these 19 have factors 3,5,17 or 23
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 13:21:12; jurov: only interim results, it's still slurping the keys. ofc there will be writeup
shinohai: Mother/daughter is the ultimate win if somehow you work yourself into that scenario.
davout: more the "amplified nagging" side than the sexual one tbh
jurov: mircea_popescu: just slurping keys using github api and trying some small factor on them. i don't have capacity to full GCD
☟︎ mircea_popescu: jurov a ok. well phuctor propers like what, 1/5 done or so. will add your lot then for sure.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, kinda interesting from an anthropological perspective that on one hand fucking your nubile daughter aside her mother in a steaming session is a closely held taboo, but generally speaking fucking OTHER PEOPLE's adolescent daughters is a closely held ideal.
mircea_popescu: basically if you have a gated community of people who all have 19 yo daughters, everybody has to sleep at the neighbour's!
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 15:23:01; jurov: mircea_popescu: just slurping keys using github api and trying some small factor on them. i don't have capacity to full GCD
mircea_popescu: well, at least be thankful you're not one thousand chickens.
mircea_popescu: hey, that used to be the golden standard historically!
ascii_field: jurov: in no case is trial division more efficient than gcd(n, product-of-a-bunch-of-primes)
mircea_popescu: he can get results of the form "which moduli divisible by 19" using less memory.
jurov: trying all first 10k primes on all keys still went in short time and got no bigger factors than 100 anyway
mircea_popescu: his report that there are no keys divisible by M kinda blew my mind
jurov: ssh pubkeys from github
assbot: Logged on 08-06-2015 13:17:23; jurov: interesting that 641 nor 6700417 appeared, only smaller primes
jurov: moment. i have stopped trying at first found divisor
jurov: so it's possible they are still there
ascii_field: i doubt that we'll see the same 'mirroring' trick re: ssh keys, as it is a creature of the old-fashioned 32-bit fingerprint in pre-civilized pgptron
ascii_field: (at least, as an attack it makes sense there)
mircea_popescu: a number of explanations are readily available : a) M works on specific code that happened to be wrung out of openssh codebase somehow. differential reading of gpg and openssh should indicate it then, and patch history should show us who knows better.
mircea_popescu: b) M is really the product of breakage, that didn't occur there. or of trollage, that idem.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu, jurov: worth looking to see what, if anything, the small-factored ssh keys have in common
mircea_popescu: jurov oh i see. how hard would it be to try for 641 specifically ? then if found try 6700417
jurov: i'm retrying for alll these primes
jurov: already got key id 11201072: factor [2, 17, 43, 47, 373, 443]
ascii_field: jurov: i suggest hex dump of all of the small-factored moduli
jurov: yes, i should have all keys fetched in day or two
jurov: (it's running since june 2)
jurov: they have api limit 6000/hour
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00035273 = 8.9241 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: damn i miscalculated, github has 12m users, not 1.2m
jurov: this will go on for much longer time
punkman: jurov, maybe ask that guy I linked for a bunch of them?
punkman: he was scraping for a year or something
jurov: yes but he wrote there were bad keys, whoich github removed on june 1st
jurov: better have the dataset without them
jurov: what would help, if you generate an api key and give it to me
jurov: so that i can scrape in parallel
jurov: it needs not to have any special permissions, just public access (as selected on the key screen by default)
jurov: try unchecking everything. my works even without "read: public key"
jurov: oh it says "scopes limit access"
jurov: so you should check everything except "read:public_key"
jurov: danielpbarron: thanks, it works
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 312 @ 0.00497048 = 1.5508 BTC [-]
mats: this along with FIFA corruption is apparently top items on the G7 agenda!!!
mats: was kinda expecting .gr to switch over to the drachma this weekend
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00035287 = 14.75 BTC [+]
mats: pacific beach has black and gold sand o_O
trinque: chained to a dungeon wall, still bothers to suck in her belly for the shot
mats: i don't see this news item on the cn side
trinque: woah, that tumblr got myspaced
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27859 @ 0.00036164 = 10.0749 BTC [+] {2}
mats: fun fact: x86 is little endian because it ultimately descends from an architecture that did arithmetic serially, one bit at a time, and handling carries was considered cleaner that way.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 287 @ 0.00494518 = 1.4193 BTC [-] {5}
Jef91: Thanks danielpbarron
danielpbarron: so if you're interested in that .deb thing, you'll want to talk to mircea_popescu and jurov
Jef91: Building a simple deb package isn't difficult
Jef91: danielpbarron, I do not.
danielpbarron: for the clarity of log readers, the .deb thing is regarding eulora, and Jef91 works with bodhi linux
danielpbarron: he offered to list eulora as a "featured item" in their games section, provided it has a .deb installer
jurov: he's fine with ~400M bag that plops itself into /opt?
jurov: and i'm currently set up on ubuntu 14
Jef91: jurov, yea thats fine. That is basically what our libreoffice installers do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00034674 = 13.4882 BTC [-]
jurov: ok. and do you know that new eulora accounts require one to come here, register with gpg and get a rating?
mats: fun fact: OS X has a Lisp interpreter in the kernel.
mats: trinque: Does not conform to R7RS.
mats: i've no idea. good question.
mats: will query the man responsible for this fun fact (it is not me).
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62469 @ 0.00036766 = 22.9674 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: "I hope your next mail goes straight to Linus Torvalds. He is also encouraging people to use the hardware they accidentally bought in exactly the same way!! The nerve of him."
BingoBoingo: "You are quite a persistant idiot. Find replacement of a firmware that a vendor wrote for their specific undocumented chip; which runs on the custom processor and hardware on the athn USB device? That runs on the rsu hardware, which is probably some kind of crappy vendor-modified ARM or MIPS or 8085 derived cpu attached to a blob of Verilog logic they designed in their own lab?"
trinque: love the way he handles people
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25781 @ 0.00036436 = 9.3936 BTC [-] {2}
trinque: the redditard has come to expect free software (TM) !!
trinque: hilarious for anyone to be lecturing openbsd on the subj
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35191 @ 0.00034561 = 12.1624 BTC [-]
decimation: asciilifeform: the intel cards were hardly high performance
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