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a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:41
phf: i'm going to stop wall of texting the log though
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:17
phf: there's not much discipline on unix with stderr/stdout. particularly gpg seems cavalier with it. so i wouldn't even bother with error/output separation. i'd make it always return a single value, string that's combined stdout/stderr, and fail when status code is not equal to zero. maybe add a key argument, that splits them if need be, but only once there's need.
ben_vulpes:
phf: ty, keep it coming if you don't mind, i must go async
ben_vulpes:
phf: not in whatever quicklisp builds though, right?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu,
phf, asciilifeform, mod6: thoughts?
ben_vulpes:
phf: even naive xcode shits whitespace all over the place
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 16:39
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1590876 << i suspect that ironclad is still one of the better platforms to audit and integrate into own ecosystem. short of waiting for p what other options do you have? ffi to openssl? the code is readable, in the past year munchkins have been adding various algos to it, so you know what to cut, but also gives you a nice blueprint of how to extend etc.
mircea_popescu:
phf i fear the matter was more in the vein of "mcdonalds has hieroglyphic rather than numeric cash reigsters because it uses monkeys not people to operate them"
mircea_popescu:
phf yes of course it's not good or bad, "all turing machines are equivalent let's malbolge nao"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 16:39
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1590876 << i suspect that ironclad is still one of the better platforms to audit and integrate into own ecosystem. short of waiting for p what other options do you have? ffi to openssl? the code is readable, in the past year munchkins have been adding various algos to it, so you know what to cut, but also gives you a nice blueprint of how to extend etc.
Framedragger:
phf: given this, would you even say that what pycrypto does is evil, i wonder.. i mean if it uses ctypes ~properly
mircea_popescu: the problem of saving html soup well is hard ;
phf announced working on it some time ago but i dunno how it goes.
mircea_popescu:
phf ftr you definitely gotta see the recent triad if you haven't already.
mircea_popescu:
phf but my idea is... the "androgyny" thing only exists because gay dudes masquerading.
mircea_popescu:
phf i dunno, the eastern european name is in my head taken over by that piece of furniture besson was infatuated with at some point.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 04:37
phf: "... for countering THE foreign propaganda and disinformation being wages against us and our allies by our enemies."
BingoBoingo:
phf: Then go to store get vitriol. The kind we (as opposed to ether huffers) deal in is commonly sold as "Amazing liquid fire" drain cleaner.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-23 04:41
phf: there's no "correct" with v graphs, and every two months or so i spent some time meditating on what a v graph even is
mod6:
phf's might correct, but his doesn't show all of the edges that mine does.
mircea_popescu:
phf omfg you'\re right, i just made contact at first ; only started using it from august.
a111: Logged on 2014-03-20 22:39
phf: not quite
mircea_popescu: now we know what it means when
phf tells a girl he'll be 10-15 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 19:01
phf: asciilifeform: these are basically three different solutions to the same problem of "how to allow more than one kind of vpatch". yours is mechanical, mine is an attempt to expand the mythos and mp's is cutting the gordian knot
mircea_popescu:
phf yes, in principle. in practice i expect "centralizing" rebasing vpatches to happen all the time to prune trees of their noncontroversial joints.
mircea_popescu: if it's any good, you can always sign it later as
phf.
mircea_popescu:
phf you don't have to post a snippet of code as ~vpatch~. can just pastebin it also
a111: Logged on 2016-02-20 22:45
phf: "i, ordained computron mircea lifeform, in the year of our republic 1932, having devoted three months to the verification of checksums, with my heart pure and my press clean, sit down to transcribe vee patch ascii_limits_hack, signed by the illustrious asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and all saints."
mircea_popescu:
phf ah, yes, but note that the item contemplated there is specifically not discussion ; but its results.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 17:46
phf: i'm already spelunking logs for v history, to go on another trip at the moment :)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 19:54 mircea_popescu:
phf suppose you make an ai expert system to beat us at go. this gives you two practical options : either include 10gb worth of binary flags preset ; or else have us beat it at go for 10 centuries before it gets to where it plays like a freshly fucked 19yo.
ben_vulpes: and yes,
phf, when i am not exhausted i will also produce a genesis.
ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, trinque,
phf, mircea_popescu, and anyone else tracking vtronic gnashing: i dusted off and rewrote my cl V implementation. i'll follow up sometime tomorrow with more demo usage, and a more robust demonstration of wot-variant pressing.
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/juTpM/?raw=true a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 01:59
phf: well, since collective reaction is "tis but a scratch" i have nothing else to say, and will happily await mircea_popescu's unrate
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 01:49
phf: well, last time i brought it up with mod6 he said something along the lines of "i'm not ready to sign, because it's still work in progress"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 01:47
phf: ben_vulpes: this subthread since your response to my original statement is one example of what i'm talking about. in this case none of the v implementations are on btcbase, because nobody wants to sign own hacks, because the cost of failure is too high.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated
phf 4 at 2016/05/17 03:19:21 << his lordship the lord chancellor
mod6:
phf: naw. even mircea_popescu has encouraged me to release it, even if it has warts.
ben_vulpes:
phf: now tell me if that's sloth or fear
trinque: and fwiw
phf I merely said "do not come to me asking about
phf", recently. I did not say further.
ben_vulpes:
phf: asciilifeform signed his, iirc i signed mine
mircea_popescu: that's ok, i'm just waiting for
phf to say something so i unrate him
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 22:11
phf: i'd imagine in sane world they would have something like FUCKGOATS or an expensive variation of (like john walker's hotbits) so can publish schematics all you want. in reality it is probably a prng with a seed under two keys
mircea_popescu:
phf but if you're up for some utter wtf, can always try "this must be the place". i have no idea what i saw.
mircea_popescu:
phf i tried recently and couldn't stand it. the cheapo roadshow really irks me. it's almost like watching that dude "commenting", what's his face
mircea_popescu:
phf possibly not. but yes, not ~entirely~ bad, and as an actor certainly better than whatever dorks available today, so he'd still win a "what do we watch" competition. the period though... ah, ah.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 22:27
phf: ben_vulpes: that archive has like dozen of access points, half of them regularly disappearing, a project for a lisp aficionado would be to archive it before it disappears completely
mircea_popescu:
phf hey, at least unlike the 15-20 years of "ai research", this ~actually does something~.
Framedragger: (just to be clear, there were two digits wrong (3.14159265_3_5), and the last one (it should go up by one due to proceeding digit). as
phf said, math.h has that constant defined, but eh:)