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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform & other interested parties : turkish 
usg nonsense firmly quashed, screenshot "mainstream" news sites if you wanna lulz art them later.
 a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 21:03 asciilifeform: i'ma guess it now services 
usg (e.g., 'general dynamics' army laptops) solely.
 mircea_popescu: so moved on to phase 2 of the 
usg.asset cycle, where he's now dormant and periodically fed contribution vomit.
 mircea_popescu: i wish to buy caged "modern feminist" by the pound. eventually, 
usg WILL sell this product to me.
 mircea_popescu: anyway - i wonder at what point of turning the vice around its ballsac, 
usg finally relents, admits that it is way the fuck cheaper and therefore better to be friends with the smart people, throws idiots to the dogs. so we get license to capture humanities majors from horseback on campus, and they get the default immunity they like to pretend they currently have.
 a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:28 trinque: I criticize "
USG" as a category; it barely defines anything
 a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 19:09 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: recall that 
usg sits on top of egyptian pyramid - sized heap of fpga. why not, then, hijack an old, familiar scrypt-based altcoin, and proclaim 'see, YES WE CAN!111' etc
 pete_dushenski: you can only say that 
usg is 'literally' effective if you degrade the definition of effective to the point where it's what petrocheese is to french brie
 trinque: I criticize "
USG" as a category; it barely defines anything
 ☟︎ trinque: "
usg" launched a saturn v once
 trinque: "sucks because 
usg" is blunt and useless analysis
 trinque: "
usg" is not a cohesive whole
 pete_dushenski: i hesitate to ask what 
usg understands 'cryptoanalysis' to mean in practical terms because it's hard to fathom that it can either think or act on such terms, but...
 pete_dushenski: hard to believe that brokeback 
usg is spending $bn on anything useful just to store in industrial warehouse until majick ltc day cometh
 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: is it clear to you that 
usg has edge with scrypt over chicoms ?
 mircea_popescu: you don't think nsa lost, or 
usg lost, or any of the imperial heavenly legions ever lost.
 ben_vulpes: but like cold fusion, railguns keep 
usg contractors in the procurement pipeline.
 mircea_popescu: 
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501981 << the power of shitcoins : much like bitcoin makes everyone a bitcoiner, be they 
usg.nsa or whatever else, just so scamcoin makes everyone a scammer. they may start as "white hat" or "robin hood" or whatever, but in the end the dark nature of the item compels them.
 ☝︎ mats: also, what makes you think it was a 
usg rocket?
 a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 16:29 asciilifeform: which is why you can get 
usg or eurounion to cough up $B for a crackpot machine, but not $1M for you to sit in a chalet in the alps and schrodingerate
 mircea_popescu: reminiscent of how 
usg.software works. "so, you want openssh and utf-fonts via which package again ?"
 a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 16:05 asciilifeform: and afaik, liberasty aside, k really did create a good chunk of the 20th c. 
usg-branded corpse pile. what sense it even makes to discuss 'war criminals' without his picture on it ?
 Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. k, true that. and what with my home country being a 
usg bitch, i recall my high school's history teacher (who also was its director) being basically in love with kissinger, quoting him left and right and openly admiring him - incl. his person, i think. wonder if he still does the same. ah, good times..
 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron at the very least the devil can't testify. who cares what the 
usg thinks you've done, nobody's liable to ask it, nor may it likely acquire a voice without losing itself.
 ☟︎ danielpbarron: heh, really hard to say. I haven't been keeping in contact with him at all. Come to think of it I'd want to ask him ahead of time if he thinks registering a church with the 
USG is against the Word or not (he's not a big fan of 
USG -- prolly a plus)
 mircea_popescu: that's the fucking scary thing there - he got all the good jews, leaving some shitty jews to fill the void. it's ~exactly what the 
usg did to the us : killed the competent mobsters, now there's inexplicable problems.
 a111: Logged on 2014-08-16 02:38 mircea_popescu: in short : your notion that sitting with the 
usg is safe and joining the rebels is dangerous is fundamentally broken. sitting with the 
usg is safe except if the rebels get the upper hand.
 a111: Logged on 2015-07-24 00:19 mircea_popescu: and i'll say this to assuage your doubts : i am the man who said "you are not safe, for we know where you live". a year and change later, reality has borne my saying : the entire 
usg employee list, leaked. etc.
 mircea_popescu: kinda looking forward to the obvious application of 
usg drone depicted supra
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how about taking away ALL weapons from ALL 
usg-paid ANYONE.
 mircea_popescu: 
usg nightmare scenario is exactly this, highly defensive "everything's a fortress and with gun ports" bourgeois restructuring of the town.
 mircea_popescu: atm all hopes pinned on microsoft-sponsored "devcon" for the scamcoin. basically, mit can either get another 
usg agency involved or they're dropping it, they lost all they were gonna lose on it already.
 mircea_popescu: possibly the most 
usg-tronic item in existence today. i'd rather have doberman patrols.
 mircea_popescu: ie, the original idea was much more a la tmsr than a la 
usg.
 mircea_popescu: unscrupulous swindler (ie, 
usg) promises the latter that he's representative of the former, meanwhile he doesn't even have film in the "camera".
 mircea_popescu: and if there is, i'ma say what. not fucking 
usg, or for that matter pete rizzo.
 mircea_popescu: 
usg wants to save poloniex (ie, the owners, while somewhat tools, dun wanna be all-the-way tools) so you know, it'll just delist ethereum and that's that.
 BingoBoingo: Anyways there's also Ver's thing continuing along on all the Pinoy SEO 
USG.MIT can afford
 a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 12:45 mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" 
usg tool and "ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort, ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
 mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" 
usg tool and "ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort, ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
 ☟︎ mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the 
usg counts "corruption" against me. i don't.
 mircea_popescu: it is an absurd situation, to hate the 
usg and propose "independent people" are the solution, then look at what "soberania y patria bla bla" idiots make and decide you'd rather see a slave empire in its place.
 mircea_popescu: anyway, back to the issue : the flow was "ship to montevideo ferry to ba", but this changed recently, and likely to change more in the future. current president is 
usg tool and pretty firmly set on raping the locals
 mircea_popescu: on the other hand, considerations of powers that wanna be, who really aren't, such as cixi wanting it to be "quiter than x" or hilary clinton wanting it to "not destroy 
usg because the us understood as 
usg was always great" will also not be considered.
 mircea_popescu: i'm not about to import 
usg.retardation for any reason.
 mircea_popescu: the botnets are a lot closer to the result, in practice, than 
usg ever got.
 mircea_popescu: so, strategically, we (as in, humans, people, we) are confronted with an adversary (ie, socialist state, 
usg, aliens, the devil incarnate, pure evil, etc) that predicates its relevancy upon targeted computing denial (see 
http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ ; and also 
http://trilema.com/2015/mika-epstein-aka-ipstenu-is-a-thoroughly-clueless-poser/ re the ddos "we won't fix" and so on )
 ☟︎ adlai: specifically, people liking to pay 
usg taxes
 ben_vulpes: gf walking with wot material is just as catastrophic as 
usg walking with wot material. 'walked' being only detail of note.
 mircea_popescu: (yes, we use constructive intent all the time, such as for instance in discussions of 
usg - the sort of thing where they end up responsible both ways.)
 pete_dushenski: also, it would appear that musk's scammy 
usg-funded acquisition of one of his failed enterprises by his other failing enterprise missed the logs.
 mircea_popescu: and to not forget the various other 
usg tools with a more remote, disavowed involvement : gavin andresen, emin gun sirer, and a whole list of various derps who unilaterally claim involvement : amir chetrit, anthony di iorio, gavin woon, joseph lubin etc,
 adlai: sure. but this "
usg" is still a bunch of smart muppets scamming the stupid muppets, money is changing hands
 mircea_popescu: lol. "billion" dollar. currently 
usg self-trading on poloniex just about 99.999%