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adlai: CLM is thoroughly bitrot ;_;
phf: if naggum wrote his emacs, or at the very least started one, then i wouldn't be necessarily stuck without a text editor i could trust or work with (hemlock being a particularly bad implementation, and emacs corrupted beyond redemption, etc)
phf: and even if the kommuniti picked it up and fucked it up we could've still had a "tmsr version -- last naggum release" baseline or whatever ☟︎
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-July/000226.html
trinque: mod6: nice work on tb0t
mod6: hey, thanks trinque o7
mod6: Got the next number of days off here. Gonna try to hit the ground running here in July.
mod6: :]
trinque does not want to eventually say "if asciilifeform had built his computer"
trinque: phf: isn't the reason he didn't that he was that car without fuel?
trinque: my reaction to GPL earlier has to do with that. we're all lamenting the wreckage, and wasn't it precisely that too many morons got involved in the craft? ☟︎
trinque: how is a naggum supposed to do anything if software is free
trinque: or if alf's computer is free
trinque: I could see myself sharing technology with someone if I see that it benefits me in some way, or at large if it has some strategic benefit to me, and not otherwise in service to a philosophical code
trinque: I don't lament that there isn't some opensource naggum editor out there; I lament that I can't spend 20k or w/e and buy an actual computer ☟︎
phf: you can lament over both, and work towards both goals
phf: not that you have time of course :)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493812 << because gotta unify WHOLE BOX , instead of 'waaaaa it clashes with me Unix Way!111' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 23:30 phf: funny how a lot of these ideas have been explored, grokked and then promptly not accepted
phf: asciilifeform: i'm not going to be a proxy gabriel!
trinque: phf: there's bad economic technology at the root of the rotten tree of computing, is my meandering rant
asciilifeform: trinque: unlike cpu etc, i have nfi what solution to your bit would even look like.
trinque: me either. still a problem.
asciilifeform: wholly martian problem.
trinque: army's gotta eat
asciilifeform: and since mircea_popescu is sleeping, i will have to barf in his place:
asciilifeform: 'only the WEAK eat!'
trinque: l0l
trinque: could very well be that computing is for the nephews of 2100s Lords.
asciilifeform: 'True Übermenschen with Will, live off the energy of the hatred of their contemptible worm enemies!!!!'
phf: that sounds more lafond than mp ;)
asciilifeform: i bet mircea_popescu at least makes coffee from hatred of enemies!11
mircea_popescu: sooo... du has no sorting ? who the fuck!
phf: oh shit, mp's back, act busy
asciilifeform: du | sort ...
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: yeah, why the fuck not, type pipes every time, cus it's so fucking hard to have a switch.
asciilifeform: yoooooniks waaay!
mircea_popescu: you know what, du has no reason to even list things other than by size
asciilifeform: switches are heathen
asciilifeform: pipe.
mircea_popescu: i already put the u switch in the fucking name
asciilifeform: lel
mircea_popescu: next grep is going to need a switch to actually search
mircea_popescu: it just thought maybe you want things piped through!
mircea_popescu: fuycking windowstards. du -du -du -du.
mircea_popescu: and then | du for good measure. because what it could possibly be needed for
asciilifeform: du takes input?!
phf: blood and tears of windows users
asciilifeform: my car runs on that
asciilifeform: nearly enough.
mircea_popescu: in other news, backup process silently fails because move file > 4gb
phf: so plan9 actually got rid of find. you're supposed to use `du|grep` for that
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE WHY THE FUCK NOT
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun tell me you were backing up onto fat32
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: tb disks all around, plenty of space.
asciilifeform: then wtf
asciilifeform: ext2 ?
mircea_popescu: but someone somewhere decided to go all http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-21#1486236 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 15:23 mircea_popescu: if the item in question is uploaded via ssh-mysql directly, phpmyadmin (common mysql interface) dies when trying to say "edit" the column, and wordpress itself fails to pipe the content to apache.
asciilifeform: from what to what did mircea_popescu move the filez
mircea_popescu: one box to another.
trinque mistrusts anything other than rsync for this
asciilifeform: yeah but which fs
mircea_popescu: they're both the same ext dood. no fs involved.
trinque: tried baculas and duplicities and all other manner of bullshit
mircea_popescu: trinque just a pile of .sh
trinque: ah, what a pain.
mircea_popescu: aaanywya.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493815 << unremarkably, technology has short halflife among monkey tribe. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 23:33 phf: or common lisp music which is a subset of common lisp to describe a wavelength generation/transformation/composition (i'm pretty sure it was used to do first computer FM synthesis)
mircea_popescu: you know what else was "explored, groked and then... '''not accepted'''" ? linen.
mircea_popescu: felt for top hats.
mircea_popescu: shoes for women that actually work. you know, to walk in.
mircea_popescu: using your hands to cook.
mircea_popescu: food made out of organic matter.
adlai: amazingly enough software has a halflife even when at rest. CLM doesn't compile today.
adlai: (and the bugs are literal bitrot. random # appears in between ', because it feels like it)
mircea_popescu: but yes, you're entirely correct in that there's no such thing as "scientific knowledge", in the sense of a sort of secret football team in the sky that plays and wins for the average derp, once each day and twice on sunday.
asciilifeform: adlai: could be just your copy ?
adlai: try it. it's in walk.lisp.
asciilifeform: last i tried, decade or so ago, it built...
adlai ~just~ downloaded it fresh from www https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/clm/
asciilifeform: gotta dredge up the thing
asciilifeform: perhaps i have the last clean copy..
phf: adlai: clm is not "compile all files without thinking" system
mircea_popescu: the things people do once off drugs.
asciilifeform: i bet there are stinking allegroisms in there
adlai: then why does the .asd have one file, "all.lisp"
phf: there aren't allegroisms in there
phf: you don't load asd
phf: all.lisp does some very specific things
phf: and it will fail earlier then it has to touch walk.lisp (i'm pretty sure)
adlai: mircea_popescu: amazingly, the last doctor i saw told me that i have two choices: take the meds, or don't... but tell people you're off them
mircea_popescu: how come ?
adlai: because he thinks i should never touch any drug ever. i didn't ask about coffee or glucose but myeah.
adlai exaggerates slightly, but this doc is not a pill pusher, which is why i sought him out - confirmation bias ftw!
phf: adlai: i think that bit is just typo, the '# switch, since that's essentially dead code for all practical purposes
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493848 << yeah, doesn't affect you until you open a dentist's clinic and the customers "are confused". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 23:59 phf: asciilifeform: but to get back to my point, the fact that local-time as implemented by kommmuniti is shit doesn't have to affect ~me~. i know what the right way (or a better one) of doing things is, but if naggum didn't write his paper, i wouldn't. i thought that's kind of the WoT approach
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1493851 << this is becoming quite the thing huh. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:02 phf: and even if the kommuniti picked it up and fucked it up we could've still had a "tmsr version -- last naggum release" baseline or whatever
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1493859 << honestly, gpl, like everything else, started from the wrong premise. an expectation that "all people" WILL wreck your life, and everything you touch. all things, be they science, be they politics, be they family, love, art, whatever the fuck they be - are exactly that, a conversation between A SPECIAL KIND of people over whatever time and space expanses. nothing is open to the "com ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:12 trinque: my reaction to GPL earlier has to do with that. we're all lamenting the wreckage, and wasn't it precisely that too many morons got involved in the craft?
mircea_popescu: mon man". not one thing.
mircea_popescu: the moment the bs with "everyone" and "anyone" and so on starts, the game's lost, all that's to be still established is the exact manner in which the fuck-up will manifest. but the fuck-up is already baked in at that early point.
mircea_popescu: of course, as the legendary fool who's shown the moon and looks at the finger, people will then debate "what did it", in terms of, you know, if only we flavoured communism shit with THIS vanilla bean!
trinque: $s remove trust
a111: 14 results for "remove trust", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=remove%20trust
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1493863 << the concept of "free" as used here is unsound. there is such a thing as technological cost. linux is free, it can bash, derps whine about "firefox automation tools". hurr. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:15 trinque: I don't lament that there isn't some opensource naggum editor out there; I lament that I can't spend 20k or w/e and buy an actual computer
mircea_popescu: the correct model i think is sex. sex is free, to the asker ; it goes for a song. but it depends which asker and what song.
asciilifeform: 'linux is free if yer time has 0 value!11' (tm) (r) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but in other lulz, my first computer cost, in ppp, about 200k in today's usd.
asciilifeform: the pdp .
asciilifeform: .
mircea_popescu: no, a 286 with a 14 inch display.
asciilifeform: ah
mircea_popescu: salaries at the time 2-4k or so rol/mo ; rol to usd ~100 ; machine cost like 1800 or so if memory serves.
asciilifeform: my 'искра', 8086 made for tank, ~same
asciilifeform: lulzily, iirc a smbx 36xx was about 100k american usd in late '80s
mircea_popescu: the only difference between actual people and the us scumbags is that someone apparently told the latter they have a say.
mircea_popescu: so then they gotta opine on things and matters.
asciilifeform: about ~= twin engined airplane, or basic ferrari
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1493962 << while that true, not applicable here. you should see what a standard office drone does with a large csv in his excel. 8 hour work day so as to avoid 20 minutes' worth of awk, and that includes the time reading docs. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 00:48 asciilifeform: 'linux is free if yer time has 0 value!11' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: incidentally, i should like to learn what became of, e.g., racal norsk's lispm. or the french one, whose name escapes me
asciilifeform: the euro folk were poor, and their lispms yet costlier and fewer in number than in usa
asciilifeform: to the point that ~0 afaik remain...
phf: or got alan kay'd (guy owns connection machine)
asciilifeform: a fellow i know bought one
asciilifeform: it sat in his cellar for a decade
adlai: reading SoTRB, lemme get this straight: it's impossible to download openssl without... openssl?
asciilifeform: (he never found a lispm to drive it with)
phf: does he still have it?
asciilifeform: phf: nope, iirc his wife threw it
phf: don't tell me things like that
asciilifeform: lel
phf: fwiw she threw out a rembrandt, since it could be sold for 10-20-30k?
asciilifeform: complicated
asciilifeform: recall my attempt at selling ordinary 3620?
asciilifeform: picture the cost of moving a cm
phf: yeah, you're refusing to sell it, is what it is :>
asciilifeform: it is still for sale, lol
phf: list it on ebay, say "buyer figures out shipping options", it'll got for 4-5k
asciilifeform: but i ain't stuffing it in a box with the usual moneyback
phf: yeah, nobody will expect you to
asciilifeform: because death is ~100%
asciilifeform: unless hand-carried, in which case it is maybe 30%
phf: you know that people who do these kind of things understand the issue :)
asciilifeform: yeah and they charge 5k
mircea_popescu: gotta love these boxes doing 7MB/s tho. for srs. 3gb in 7 minutes ? sign me up
phf: asciilifeform: your buyer will pay it, is my point
mircea_popescu: adlai yeah.
asciilifeform: and when it arrives dead?
mircea_popescu: nuts.
phf: asciilifeform: buyer will be very sad, recap it, test it, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know there is such a thing in business as "FOB"
phf: for example i bought an xl1201, it's been sitting at a friend's place in seattle for 8 months now, because it's waiting for me to go there in person and pick it up myself
asciilifeform: most likely crt will pop
asciilifeform: it used a custom tube by 'clinton', not replaceable
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ?
mircea_popescu: "free on board". come pick it up ; if you don't we throw it in the water.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that wouldn't net any real money
mircea_popescu: how do you know what things would or wouldn't!
asciilifeform: my only remaining interest in the thing is to net top dollarz
phf: asciilifeform: if you're serious about selling it, i can make it happen. only reason i've not been pursuing this line, is because you're preemptively sabotaging the whole thing
mircea_popescu: yes, but you're mixing things. (the item) is not = (the item) + (transport service for the item). you can't want "the item" to net you top dollars through sometyhing that's not the item.
mircea_popescu: you wanna make money in logistics, get busy.
mircea_popescu: you wanna make money selling item, sell item.
asciilifeform: thing is still in my because i have 0 interest in working for min wage.
asciilifeform: (which month of work to sell a few k$ box, is)
adlai: btw, the way to get something sold is to pay a salesman commission.
asciilifeform: *my kitchen
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as economic inefficiencies, yeah.
mircea_popescu: adlai apparently they ran out of jews in washington. ☟︎
asciilifeform: adlai: i dun keep one on retainer, sadly
adlai: last i checked, tmsr has an ex-salesman? or at least a blogger who blogs a lot about how to sell ☟︎
adlai: throwimabone!
mircea_popescu: it'd be better to recruit a local than to make someone leave warm sunny canada!
asciilifeform: aint got none in my meatwot.
mircea_popescu: and as a general fucking principle : make girlfriends, yo, don't figure out how to all be buttbudies.
asciilifeform: and aint trusting strangers.
adlai: i don't think you sell a lispm door-to-door
mircea_popescu: a republic in every town!
phf: asciilifeform: last time we talked about i basically got an impression that you don't want to sell it, which has been reconfirmed by this conversation, which is unfortunate since there are people who would actually put it to good use.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trust, what trust. trade with 'em, fuck 'em , and so following.
adlai: how about you sell me a call on it
asciilifeform: the box is on track to star in asciilifeform's peine forte et dure.
mircea_popescu: nobody's saying to eatr with them, pray with them, etc.
adlai: ie, you keep it, not for sale, and i pay rent
adlai: phf outbids me and that's how markets are born
mircea_popescu: o.O
phf: adlai: i don't actually need it, i have an xl1201, which i bought after i realized asciilifeform is not going to sell his one. but i know at least 3 people that will pay recent ebay prices for it
asciilifeform: anyway it can only be sold via wot, because buyer has to take my word that the thing isn't ~currently~ the pile of scrap it will almost certainly turn into when it moves.
mircea_popescu: the buyer also has to shave her snatch and milk > 1 cup per teat.
phf: ^
mircea_popescu: and if any redheads show signs of getting pregnant for this purpose, it'll be no gingers.
mircea_popescu: (which is understandable - you need a soul to lisp)
adlai reminds that his plan fell through to to problems on his own end
asciilifeform: basically the exercise isn't worth my time for what i am likely to expend in time and what can realistically sell for.
adlai: specifically, people liking to pay usg taxes
asciilifeform: if thing were worth 20k, then perhaps
adlai: inb4 "those are not 'people'"
mircea_popescu: phf you laugh at him all you want, but his mental process is sensible, or at least common. if you think about it, why exactly is it that most wives aren't being turned out as we speak ?
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY this, illusory or real.
phf: i'm not even laughing, i'm mostly pissed
asciilifeform has a ~very~ acute perception of the value of his time
asciilifeform: result of long stretch in butugychag
adlai: would you be willing to show a non-technical (but intelligent) visitor that it works?
asciilifeform: yes.
asciilifeform: if in wot
phf: his objections are bogus, even the time/money thing, and they go through the usual asciilifeform escalations. thing can be taken of his hands within a week, for $5k or so, with no effort on his part, besides "take it to the front porch when a man gets there"
adlai has relatives close to alf
asciilifeform: adlai: machine can be in silver spring, md, working, on a week's notice.
adlai said maryland!?
asciilifeform: aha.
adlai: they don't have to visit your house, but i never said maryland
asciilifeform: office.
adlai: aha.
mircea_popescu: phf yeah, but then he wouldn't have it anymore.
adlai will get back on this issue, unless phf's meatwot beats his meatwot to the meatpunch
asciilifeform: takin' bids..
asciilifeform: i have both old and new-type kbd.
asciilifeform: old console, strictly, and 1 triax cable.
asciilifeform: also buncha dud boards for various xl machines
asciilifeform: and an empty tape drive chassis.
phf: mircea_popescu: that's what i figured
mats: Microsoft's 'Office 365' choked today
asciilifeform: mats: how's that
mats: work was not fun, i think virtually everyone with 365 was unable to send or receive external mail
mircea_popescu: lmao
mats: fucking cloud services
mats: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-office-365-email-outage-affecting-some-u-s-customers/
asciilifeform: run moar microshit!111
asciilifeform: btw if i had phf 's xl, i wouldn't sell
asciilifeform: xl is spiffy
asciilifeform: takes scsi disks
asciilifeform: and doesn't need console
asciilifeform: (can x11 into it)
asciilifeform: ~indestructible.
mircea_popescu: if you DID have it, you wouldn't sell the 3620. because great.
asciilifeform: i had 3620 because poorfag
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=51 << for anyone trying to follow thread
asciilifeform: ^ thing is about the size of pc fulltower, but weighs ~40kg, and console - similar
asciilifeform: pulls ~= same wattage as a large vacuum cleaner, and sounds also very much like one when operating.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=52 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=53 << console.
phf: my first attempted motorcycle purchase went exactly like this. i show up, and the bike's fucking spiffy, a honda cafe racer conversion. i saw it on craigslist, research all the things, etc. etc. the conversation went something like "check out this thing that i did to this bike – ooh yeah it's cool, so i want to pick it up – yeah i replaced the pipe from this one to this other one - yeah i saw the original this is much better, so i want to pick
phf: it up - oh and the seat is leather - very classy so i want to pick it up - anyway, maybe you should think about it - nah i want to pick it up - well give it a day or something - ... ok i'll pick it up tomorrow" haven't heard anything from the guy.
asciilifeform: lel!
asciilifeform: was it an 'ural' ??
asciilifeform: oh honda
asciilifeform: anyway no riced pipes in this one.
BingoBoingo: * adlai exaggerates slightly, but this doc is not a pill pusher, which is why i sought him out - confirmation bias ftw! << Or he wants a baseline adlai without lsd...
mircea_popescu: phf imagine if brothels worked like that.
mircea_popescu: and in other nerws, http://66.media.tumblr.com/377826a655939544e74b1ac5e5960e81/tumblr_ny5ec6IwnA1u5z1ezo1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: "alpha cuck"
BingoBoingo: deedbot: http://dpaste.com/18W3YQY.txt
BingoBoingo: ^ trinque
BingoBoingo: how to deed nao?
deedbot: [Qntra] Qntra (S.QNTR) June 2016 Report - http://qntra.net/2016/07/qntra-s-qntr-june-2016-report/
deedbot: [Qntra] Symantec Snake Oil Goes Rancid - http://qntra.net/2016/07/symantec-snake-oil-goes-rancid/
mircea_popescu: deedbot http://dpaste.com/18W3YQY.txt
mircea_popescu: hm.
BingoBoingo: Was that still the missing other deedbot- job?
mircea_popescu: "to 6 Honduran policeman on Wednesday" << policemen
mircea_popescu: trinque hey seriously, no way to deed ? since whenever ?
mircea_popescu: " not one of the every other countries that likes cocaine too" << "not one of the other countries where they like cocaine too"
BingoBoingo: fxd
asciilifeform: in other 'news', this year's underhanded c contest is a lul: http://underhanded-c.org/#summary
asciilifeform: 'This year's challenge (detailed below) is a real-world problem in nuclear verification, sponsored by and designed in partnership with the Nuclear Threat Initiative (http://www.nti.org/), a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization working to reduce the threat of ...'
mircea_popescu: did they decide to make it about being nice to fat women instead ?
asciilifeform: nah that's next year's!111
mircea_popescu: "nonprofit, nonpartisan" sounds like it's a clinton-for-president thing
BingoBoingo: Oh, mircea_popescu speaks 'Murican nao?
mircea_popescu: hm ?
asciilifeform: these are standard americanisms used by registered chur^H^H^H^Hnonprofits
BingoBoingo: The whole decoding Clintonese
mircea_popescu: mkay.
BingoBoingo: Clintonese is a New York dialect that Pretends to be a hillbilly Arkansas tongue until it can use its husand like the first stage of a rocket for its own political career
asciilifeform: incidentally, re http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493235 - i suggest 'church of integrity' - loosely from hanbot's 'shall be delivered' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 13:22 mircea_popescu: shinohai kinda why i put this in the open, so people can come up with a good name maybe.
trinque: it's $deed
trinque: the thing does more than one command now
mircea_popescu: church of x is a little dubious neh ? ☟︎
trinque: BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu ^
asciilifeform: ratin' folx - sacrament.
trinque: $deed http://dpaste.com/18W3YQY.txt
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
mircea_popescu: trinque ah ah cool.
BingoBoingo: $deed http://dpaste.com/18W3YQY.txt
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
trinque: aw crap
trinque: lol
mircea_popescu: kik
mircea_popescu: $help
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can always skip the 'church of' prefix.
mircea_popescu: ^ not in there!
trinque: I'll make sure that one goes through, and $deed will work in a few min
mircea_popescu: $feed
trinque: yeah will update help too
trinque: there aren't any feed commands; I just put them in the db
mircea_popescu: kik
BingoBoingo: $deed http://dpaste.com/18W3YQY.txt
deedbot hands you a broomstick.
trinque: I'm over here pulling at his guts
trinque: I'll put that in
trinque: BingoBoingo: is that the one from earlier?
trinque: already went, but my node doesn't see it yet for some reason
trinque: node's like 20 blocks behind because reasons
BingoBoingo: yeah
trinque: $deed http://dpaste.com/18W3YQY.txt
deedbot: accepted: 1
trinque: fxd
BingoBoingo: ty
trinque: $deed http://dpaste.com/18W3YQY.txt
deedbot: accepted: 1
trinque: $help
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html
trinque: ^ updated with $deed ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nice.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494170 <<< very cool ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 05:35 trinque: ^ updated with $deed
mircea_popescu: $up DaoSancho
deedbot: DaoSancho voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: Morning Senor Popescu how goes it?
shinohai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 678.33, vol: 7829.46519718 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 662.014, vol: 10617.98838 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 679.93, vol: 46887.39888891 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 675.0, vol: 1.096 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 681.493448, vol: 43281.03350000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 680.0, vol: 2388.00600844 | Volume-weighted last average: 678.714472444
mircea_popescu: not bad!
mircea_popescu: how about yourself ?
shinohai: Nice here, having some tea and watching sunrise.
shinohai: I need to go out to store before all the 4th-of-July derps clog up the roads.
mircea_popescu: im having rum and watching butts rise. altogether a wash!
shinohai: Rum sounds like an excellent idea, may pick up a bottle later.
mircea_popescu: havana club or no deal!
thestringpuller: shinohai: no work for you today?
thestringpuller: also shinohai how can you stand driving in your area? I was there during rush hour last night and think I had a minor stroke.
shinohai: thestringpuller: I don't have a job other than trb/Qntra
shinohai: Don't drive either, I use taxis :D
thestringpuller: MUST BE NICE
thestringpuller: :D
shinohai: You too can sit at home all day if you allow an undocumented worker hit you with a forklift!
shinohai: mircea_popescu: Which one are you drinking? I see like 7 types of Havana club for sale.
shinohai: Añejo Especial looks yummy.
thestringpuller: Oh wow! Sorry to hear that happened :( At least you can work on real stuff now? (Brighter side of darkness?)
shinohai: There are worse fates.
mircea_popescu: anejo 7yo prolly best.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker.
mircea_popescu: in which we find nano ignores the r / -fill= switch
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE WHY THE FUCKNO
thestringpuller: you're using nano?
mircea_popescu: evidently
thestringpuller: i always figured you'd use emacs.
mircea_popescu: nah
shinohai: He uses nah-no
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i also use vi!
mircea_popescu: and sometimes i actually edit files straight from bash.
shinohai adores vi
shinohai: I dislike nano because I like having line #'s displayed
mircea_popescu: doing some research in the bowels of trilema i fell upon http://trilema.com/2014/the-internet-race-gap/ "So to sum up : the average number of black people on the Internet is, on average, about 15% lower than the average numer of black people on the Internet as far as we can see - and it's probably even worse as far as we can't see."
mircea_popescu: truly web measures are a measure of wonder.
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah, i don't always care. i like nano when it's a simple matter of "i know what i'm looking for, but approximately, so it's easier to ctrl-w and look at context than to grep string"
mircea_popescu: and ctrl-c will give you position, which in my head beats line count.
shinohai: cat -n :D
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess.
shinohai: lol Shaun Bridges possibly stole even more Bitcoin than the feebs originally stated. http://archive.is/DpFL6
mircea_popescu: heh.
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 177065872435 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Jonata Jose da Silva (Seguranca) <jonatajs_@hotmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/320074624769C4288C4D85636555E72FA35CEF0F542A2481AF3BC98F17C1C6E3
shinohai: John McAfee to start a hydroelectric Bitcoin mining operation, becomes target of Chinese mining cartels.
mircea_popescu: was this in normal time ?
shinohai: I wonder what happened to his "blockchain sekoority" venture.
mircea_popescu: he prolly had breakfast and forgot all about it.
mircea_popescu: very common occurence in senior citizen homes.
shinohai: >.<
mircea_popescu: also happens when they cross thresholds.
mircea_popescu: which is why the sub-normals end up gathered around doorways. they approach a threshold, get all panicked, stop. then eventually they cross it, at which point - mindblank.
mircea_popescu: most idiots take 15 minutes to clear two feet if you put any sort of arch, gate or door there.
mircea_popescu: whoa asciilifeform that's A NEW ONE
mircea_popescu: 5 * 17 * 11353 * 183487
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: flipolade.
asciilifeform: like the last dozen or so.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: new flipolade tho ?>
asciilifeform: new.
asciilifeform: 'According to an affidavit unsealed Thursday, the Justice Department learned in April 2015 that Bridges might have kept a private cryptographic key giving him access to a bitcoin wallet with the $700,000 in currency that the Silk Road task force had seized in 2014. The department urged the agency to move the funds elsewhere. “Unfortunately, the U.S. Secret Service did not do so and the funds were thereafter stolen, something the U.
asciilifeform: S. Secret Service only discovered once it was ordered by a court to pay a portion of the seizure back to affected claimants,”...' << gold
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: see ? http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493450 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 15:46 mircea_popescu: it's why nsa fails so badly. all their budget goes to filling the barn, ~none to guarding the barn.
phf: “A judge in Virginia rules that people should have no expectation of privacy on their home PCs because no connected computer "is immune from invasion."”
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, was he hearing a rape case ?
mircea_popescu: "females should have no expectation of control over the usage of their girly bits, because well.... oooobviously".
mircea_popescu: if she's old enough to walk, she's not imune from ravishment, amirite.
asciilifeform: phf: last week's nyooz
phf: $s judge Virginia privacy
a111: 2 results for "judge Virginia privacy", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=judge%20Virginia%20privacy
phf: huh!
deedbot: [Trilema] Reddit, the derpage of the Internet - http://trilema.com/2016/reddit-the-derpage-of-the-internet/
mircea_popescu: hmm seems it decided to skip one
mircea_popescu: anyway jurov shares added.
shinohai: mircea_popescu, this may be one of my favourite Trilema posts evah.
mircea_popescu: o, really ?!
shinohai: lulzy. Much better than trolling x user with a downvote script.
mircea_popescu: cool.
mircea_popescu: well, spread the word lol.
shinohai likes the crafty, rum-swigging mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: *thumbsup*
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! what's the signature of ?
mircea_popescu: (note also you have no proof it was me! because the signature doesn't check out!)
mircea_popescu: and in other social meda / let's watch snails fuck news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/81ebd498b74133dd0a57cb55e6901bc8/tumblr_o0dlr0D4Ee1rat4opo3_500.gif
asciilifeform: ^ this has got to be near-critical mass or sumthing
asciilifeform: slotin holding them hemispheres apart with cock.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: woman is a superbly engineered piece of machinery ; can take incredible amts of abuse
asciilifeform: i meant the cockz
asciilifeform: they are packed rather tightly.
asciilifeform: any tighter and they fuse.
mircea_popescu: fusecock!
asciilifeform: cuckfusion.
phf: that's an oglaf strip right there
mircea_popescu: http://deliciousnights.tumblr.com/post/136528012045/adriana-chechik-adriana-chechik-the-ultimate << the whole strip / sauce for the eager.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the use of spamming reddit ?
asciilifeform: srs q.
shinohai: I dunno what mp's answer is, but FOR THE LULZ!
mircea_popescu: we can't be spammed. web-anything "social media" or whatever you call the bullshit - can. this advantage must be a) kept sharp and b) driven through.
asciilifeform: ah hm now i recall mircea_popescu had a piece about spamming derps to death
mircea_popescu: diana_coman hanbot trinque phf bingoboingo mod6 danielpbarron asciilifeform davout jurov http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d38a9d86-a5a6-4597-86b6-6436d08597d1/?raw=true btw. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform perfectly fine way to win a war, don your scuba diving suit and drown the place.
mircea_popescu: there's a humongo strategic difference between "no alternative exists" and "we don't like the alternative as it contradicts our ideology". bitcoin is the ur-example of how to drive this through.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am quite familiar with this strategy, given as it was the u.s. army's unofficial doctrine for chemical warfare (eat butyrylcholinesterase 'bioscavenger' antidote, then release sarin)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but these considerations aside, looky : http://startupbros.com/cracking-reddit-how-to-get-thousands-of-visitors-to-your-campaign-with-reddit-marketing/
mircea_popescu: that reddit is not worth a dime alltogether is true ; yet there's an ample supply of these idiots who think otherwise. why not help them get their "traffics" ?
asciilifeform: ok in that sense, yes.
mircea_popescu: well i wasn't about to teach you how to cat, curl and sed was i.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494280 << dunno about other folx but i have a parachute packed for this. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 15:42 mircea_popescu: diana_coman hanbot trinque phf bingoboingo mod6 danielpbarron asciilifeform davout jurov http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d38a9d86-a5a6-4597-86b6-6436d08597d1/?raw=true btw.
mircea_popescu: works.
asciilifeform: several, in fact.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the article is in fact linked first thing in the piece, or did you have another in mind ?
asciilifeform: the very same! i missed it.
mircea_popescu: a kk then
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494280 << done. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 15:42 mircea_popescu: diana_coman hanbot trinque phf bingoboingo mod6 danielpbarron asciilifeform davout jurov http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d38a9d86-a5a6-4597-86b6-6436d08597d1/?raw=true btw.
asciilifeform: $up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: have you ever considered becoming a glass blower?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i've worked glass.
asciilifeform: but never anything serious or remarkable.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel is fond of glass ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw << mega-classic.
gabriel_laddel: Not especially, but was brainstorming products to sell in SA (south america) that are a PITA to get into / create here in the USSA ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: I for one would like to be able to buy pyrex, and not the re-branded crap either.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i had an idea re pyrex, a few yrs ago
asciilifeform: simple pocket spectroscope that would let you distinguish shit-faux-pyrex from the real on, in a shop. ☟︎
asciilifeform: *real one
phf: would make you millions with granola crowd ☟︎
asciilifeform: (the owners of the trademark are cashing in, in the familiar american style, by selling exploding junk glass instead) ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://nowiknow.com/the-war-against-pyrex << for n000bz. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: http://mazepath.com/uncleal/neon2.htm
gabriel_laddel: ^ another fun thing to do in irl ba ☟︎
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: pyrex is ~4% boron by mass, ought to have absorption line there.
asciilifeform: soda lime glass will not.
asciilifeform: work it out yerself.
gabriel_laddel: ty
asciilifeform: and if you ask mircea_popescu it is difficult to get so much as a stapler in buenos aires ☟︎
asciilifeform: at least in quantity.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494307 <<< Clandestine meth producers would also appreciate. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:26 asciilifeform: simple pocket spectroscope that would let you distinguish shit-faux-pyrex from the real on, in a shop.
asciilifeform: shinohai: why's that
asciilifeform: proper labware - e.g., roundbottoms - are, afaik, still genuine borosilicate
asciilifeform: incidentally before the invention of borosilicate glass, it was customary for chemists to blow their own labware. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (the high-temp variant needs an oxygen flame and is tricky to work)
shinohai: asciilifeform I suppose to not have equipment send flying shards of glass and nasty chemiclas all into face
asciilifeform: you don't even need glass! for meth.
asciilifeform: the leuckart wallach reaction, or the grignard, or whatever other processes, work ok in stainless steel
asciilifeform: (iirc they use old fire extinguishers for pressure vessel now)
asciilifeform: i must point out, glass is seldom used in chemical industry proper
asciilifeform: terrible material.
shinohai: There was local "law-enforcement" advisory in the area once, asking citizens to report suspicious buyers of old glassware at yard sales. ☟︎
shinohai: Because totally gonna use that to make crystal instead of brownies.
asciilifeform: in new york, you can (or at least once could) be imprisoned for 'unlicensed' beaker.
asciilifeform: probably elsewhere.
shinohai: O.o
gabriel_laddel: $s what color are your atoms
a111: 1 results for "what color are your atoms", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=what%20color%20are%20your%20atoms
gabriel_laddel: $seen brendafdez
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-29#850232 << see also. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-09-29 20:07 asciilifeform: owns beaker? terrorist. all that remains is for inquisitor to establish what naughty substance you were making (or intended to make - separate article in penal code)
asciilifeform: in much of usa, it is easier to buy kalash than roundbottom flask.
asciilifeform: (usg doesn't really, despite the pretense, much care re pea shooter)
asciilifeform: go buy nitric acid.
asciilifeform: and watch the paperworks.
asciilifeform: $up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: ey ben_vulpes, can I get you to crank that knob in nginx sometime today?
ben_vulpes: $wot
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/e66f8f4f-0602-41f0-810e-6cae9d40af05/
ben_vulpes: trinque: ^^
trinque: woo!
trinque: ty
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494134 << there's always minigod, neh? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 03:22 mircea_popescu: church of x is a little dubious neh ?
asciilifeform: l0L!!
asciilifeform: win.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, i finally found some properly greedy folk in bmore willing to show me some boxez
phf: u $wot m8
hanbot: asciilifeform didja learn their variety speak? or figure it's a fluke (i thought theory was wrong demo)? ☟︎
phf: probably just found somebody who has their shit sufficiently together to follow up on a sales lead without much prodding
hanbot: inconceivable!
asciilifeform: hanbot: greed trumps all.
asciilifeform: nobody cares if yer a martian or whatever.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494280 <<< done! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 15:42 mircea_popescu: diana_coman hanbot trinque phf bingoboingo mod6 danielpbarron asciilifeform davout jurov http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d38a9d86-a5a6-4597-86b6-6436d08597d1/?raw=true btw.
davout: see #bitcoin-central
phf: davout: too late, all the action is happening in #trilema-trinque
davout: let's see
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: trinque: what a stratagem!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1487036 <<|>> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493199 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 13:04 shinohai: In other news, r/btc is celebrating this morning imagining that angry miners will soon adopt Classic and usher in the fork.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 16:02 ascii_deadfiber: i expect a shift of resources back to the 'corrode bitcoin' stratagem, vs the 'pump shitcoin'
mircea_popescu: for teh records.
shinohai: >.>
mircea_popescu: jurov * Cannot join #trilema-jurov (Channel is invite only). << you're not too shabby yourself :D
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494304 <<< ahahahaha. mno. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:25 gabriel_laddel: Not especially, but was brainstorming products to sell in SA (south america) that are a PITA to get into / create here in the USSA
mircea_popescu: there's nothing the us can make that the thirld world needs and couldn't make. kinda why we're here in the first place, libertards ruined "the civilised world".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494309 << no because couldn't be transported and also minimum wage. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:27 phf: would make you millions with granola crowd
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494313 << wait, i'm confused. you... live in buenos aires ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:29 gabriel_laddel: ^ another fun thing to do in irl ba
mircea_popescu: o holy shit the uncleal link. casimir effect ?! bejesus.
mircea_popescu: anyone actually tried that ?
mircea_popescu: "When a technology matures into a cash cow and then grows old, research into subtle undiscovered potentials abates in the name of cost-cutting. The neon sign has been common for a half-century and more. It is obvious that nothing remains to be discovered. There is no further technology to evolve, there are no new art forms to explore, there is no possible cross-fertilization with other disciplines" <<< al has an excellet poin
mircea_popescu: t. it is not only, and not principally, and arguably barely at all the sin of inept us management that it drives the productive forces of its slave empire into dead ends.
mircea_popescu: the true sin is that it pretends to seal off all sorts of good parts.
mircea_popescu: for every "go to college" piece of bad math and general ineptitude (see http://trilema.com/2014/a-practical-exercise-for-people-who-cant-afford-airfare/ << btw, took me 5 minutes to fish this out, because apparently google filters out any searches related to airports, planes, etc from site:trilema.com type searches thank you tsa, you've clearly helped LOTS!)
mircea_popescu: that cost the us 100 bucks, there's ten "this is a solved problem" idiocies that cost 100 mn each.
mircea_popescu: $up plp
deedbot: plp voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: $up spoonzy_
deedbot: spoonzy_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: and in other incredibly postmodern lulz : https://archive.is/zhCZf << postmodern art must be translated, so : fbi.gov has a banner roller just like any wanna-be "news site^Hmedia property" of the "mainsteam" variety. on this roller, because they apparently ran out of photographs or photography, in the age of the most abundant photographism, they have a picture of a lcd screen. that lcd screen depicts material originated from
mircea_popescu: them, and not pleading in favour of their intelligence, organisational importance or general sanity : they captured some black chick that shat her unwanted baby in a toilet and flushed. THIS is a "top 10 fugitive".
mircea_popescu: how to take usg seriously ? explain this to me.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494318 << speaking of which, i went into a shoe repair shop here the other day for laces (which are not sold in shoe stores, mind you). they had one. not one pair, one shoelace. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:31 asciilifeform: and if you ask mircea_popescu it is difficult to get so much as a stapler in buenos aires
mircea_popescu: ahahah what
hanbot: the guy actually took out a second lace from a pair of shoes he was trying to sell and gave me that one to go with.
mircea_popescu: if i were a younger, innocent verision of myself, like the quoted alf has the unspeakable advantage of being, i'd disbelieve this story.
mircea_popescu: as it is...
trinque: lol
trinque: I guess now if you went in it'd read "from his pair of shoes he was trying to sell"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha that's more like guatemala.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494310 << no because progress. tempered lime crapola is "just as good". PARETO SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE!!11 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:27 asciilifeform: (the owners of the trademark are cashing in, in the familiar american style, by selling exploding junk glass instead)
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494324 << i had carbide-oxygen blowtorch, blew own glass for my private chemistry lab as a 12yo! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:39 asciilifeform: incidentally before the invention of borosilicate glass, it was customary for chemists to blow their own labware.
mircea_popescu: borosilicate glass tubage of any diameter you wanted was ~40 cents per kg.
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: shitty products are a viable strategy when nobody remembers quality.
ben_vulpes: quality is also expensive, and if the engineers not managed, can readily turn into an unbounded downside cost.
jurov: i dunno wtf is this all about. here borosilicate glassware like this is cheaply and widely available, i use it every day, it's suitable even for open flame http://www.panvice.sk/kanvica-svatava-1-5-litra-simax.html
jurov: even "defined by ISO 3585 stadard"
jurov: i did break some, but always mechanically, never by heat/cold cycle
shinohai: o/ jurov my coin.br account isn't reflecting monthly fees? Or do you add those manually?
jurov: i did not do them yet
shinohai: ah kk
mircea_popescu: magic smoke!
jurov: and apparently it's available in the US: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=SIMAX+glassware
jurov: it's perhaps just brand blindness that borosilicate glass ==== pyrex
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494332 << such enforcement. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 16:44 shinohai: There was local "law-enforcement" advisory in the area once, asking citizens to report suspicious buyers of old glassware at yard sales.
mircea_popescu: jurov iirc it has an eukramic point, much like say carbon in steel. not just "some proportion", but a curve with some inflexion points.
jurov: wut?
mircea_popescu: jurov it's not just that it's "glass with borax in it", much like steel isn't just "iron with carbon in it"
mircea_popescu: or if you mean the other thing, eu, good, krama, alloy. same linguistic principle as eutectic, (teksis = melting).
jurov: SIMAX glass claims to comply to ISO 3585 standard for borosilicate glass,
jurov: it's widely used here and I never heard it failed because of cold/heat
mircea_popescu: a ok then.
jurov: only mechanically broken
jurov: so I think it's just some UStards latched on "pyrex" and are rightly milked by brand owner
asciilifeform: at one point trademark at least strongly implied 'same thing your grandfather had'
asciilifeform: today - not.
asciilifeform: so: trust but verify.
asciilifeform: spectroscope.
asciilifeform: would put some fear of god back into the fuckers, if folks could test in 3sec.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494354 << lol actually "The MiniChurch" is not all bad. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 18:34 hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494134 << there's always minigod, neh?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no it wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: folks can test in 3 seconds "social media" site of "their choice" is neither , nor secure.
mircea_popescu: fear of god undetected.
asciilifeform: that's a designated cow stall
asciilifeform: not same thing.
asciilifeform: everybody uses glass.
mircea_popescu: speaking of folks, here's a handy visual to explain the concept http://66.media.tumblr.com/e04a4eb96aecadff52219a05575fd1a8/tumblr_ng9qc75iM91shqa8eo1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahahah-HAHA!
mircea_popescu: more women use king.com apps than any sort of glass vessel! 10:1!
asciilifeform: dafuq is that, arse-mouth-system ?
jurov: i dun see how spectroscope helps with "it-must-be-called-pyrex"
asciilifeform: jurov: it helps with 'i walked in here to buy borosilicate kettle'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is a chick contorting herself in an insane position so her own urine dribble falls in her own mouth while some standing guy is also pissing in her mouth.
asciilifeform: which is now ~unavailable in usa, except in antique stores
mircea_popescu: this would be an accurate depiction of "folks".
jurov: well, ask for 'borosilicate kettle acc. to ISO standard'. and get some degree burns and sue them and get rich
jurov: :)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i offer the knife whereby we cut them off, like defective siamese twin, from actual people.
mircea_popescu: note how many of your knives run against glass.
asciilifeform: there is always a correct knife.
asciilifeform: it is a matter of finding it.
mircea_popescu: thing about glass is - perfect material in low energy envelope.
mircea_popescu: it's like forcefield made of god's own pee.
mircea_popescu: so i posit to you that your problem is not even slightly a matter of "wrong knife", along the lines of, "if only i had hyfdrofluoric acid - could melt glass", but more of low energy. you wish to amass moar power not more knowledge, to dent teh pot.
mircea_popescu: heresy, i know. but it's a square.
asciilifeform: if you consider how one actually goes about cutting glass, it is an interesting analogy.
mircea_popescu: yeah, not half bad.
asciilifeform: at any rate, this is not simply a usaschwitz problem, if ANY of you buy chinese glass-anything, there ain't no boron in there.
mircea_popescu: it's always a little disappointing when i hit the last lines of the logs ;/
asciilifeform: dealing with bugmen begins with trust-but-verify.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-01#1494360 << my bet would be that no, because easier :D ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 18:48 hanbot: asciilifeform didja learn their variety speak? or figure it's a fluke (i thought theory was wrong demo)?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/since-what-you-do-all-day-is-jack-off-anyway/#comment-93555 << in other antique trilema lulz, check out what people didn't make a bitcoin for.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> borosilicate glass tubage of any diameter you wanted was ~40 cents per kg. << What about 8 meter borosilicate for Venusian culverts?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: nah, from 1/2mm to about 8cm iirc.
BingoBoingo: So can't even make proper house to sewer pipe
asciilifeform: from glass?!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On Venus!
mircea_popescu: what do you eat that your shits are 8 m across ?!
asciilifeform: trains?
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/Zhx
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: Qntra shares distributed.
shinohai: ty jurov
jurov: there seems to be some snag with coinbr or mpex, as every month recently, looking into it
shinohai: It's mpex I believe, 404 here.
jurov: http://mpex.site/ works
jurov: deedbot: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160702/attachment.txt?sha1=bb9dab320ed2b6c070546085d4e673871180a6e9
BingoBoingo: Rule #97 Every MPEx proxy is always inaccessible from some point at some time
trinque: jurov: teh command is $deed
trinque: $deed http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160702/attachment.txt?sha1=bb9dab320ed2b6c070546085d4e673871180a6e9
deedbot: accepted: 1