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mircea_popescu: i don't even.
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is why the sort of familiarity-breeds-all-i-need morons "don't get math". boys, especially engineertards, may think her legs carefully exposed so as to "resolve" the "hot but not hot enough for the girlgroup to say slut" "dilemma" pass ; but math never fucking passes, it's always a case of either the way or the highway.
mircea_popescu: so then, thing can sit as it sits, i don't expect to persuade you (and i see the merit in "pre-republic, engineers===morons". i just don't see why this should be perpetuated, hence original "bag of lulz" comment.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 22:49 phf: asciilifeform: fwiw i didn't ignore your point. i don't trust you with this stuff, and not because you're not trustworthy, but because you refuse to be discreet when asked to be. and again since this will be misconstrued, i'm not saying keep things secret, i was specifically asking you to _quitely_ use the products of my work.
phf: asciilifeform: fwiw i didn't ignore your point. i don't trust you with this stuff, and not because you're not trustworthy, but because you refuse to be discreet when asked to be. and again since this will be misconstrued, i'm not saying keep things secret, i was specifically asking you to _quitely_ use the products of my work. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't even remember ;/
mircea_popescu: phf you want to say "if i can't discriminate then why am i lord", then you turn around and it's "either i have something or i don't have something." well, discriminate, which is it ?
phf: mircea_popescu: well, i don't think this is quite like chasing women, i think of it more as a scavenger hunt.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 21:32 phf: that's not a promise that i made, and this is a misrepresentation of my position. unfortunately i can't find the relevant pgpgram, but i believe i made it clear that i don't want this publically discussed, because obviously if any of the interested parties were to read this conversation, their reaction would be "waitaminute". i never the less offered to share what i have, but i never got a confirmation that you can just keep quite on
phf: asciilifeform: i don't believe me repeating myself on this point will make a difference, i've already said it, but you've already made your conclusions.
phf: asciilifeform: you're making selective conclusions from what i'm saying, i don't see any point in further communicating my point.
phf: asciilifeform: there was already _one_ conversation, i made my _conclusions_. your adventage is that you can basically just rant in the open, make insulting fucking statements in "general direction" of those bolix whisperers. where's i lose by having this in public record. i told you as much _at the very beginning_. but you clearly shit on my efforts, i mean you have been saying as much in public for a year, so you don't lose anything
phf: that's not a promise that i made, and this is a misrepresentation of my position. unfortunately i can't find the relevant pgpgram, but i believe i made it clear that i don't want this publically discussed, because obviously if any of the interested parties were to read this conversation, their reaction would be "waitaminute". i never the less offered to share what i have, but i never got a confirmation that you can just keep quite on ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes well i don't get drunk among open safes.
phf: asciilifeform: if i followed your lead on this subject i would've had nothing. for all i know right now i still have nothing. i don't understand how you can't seem to connect that the answer to "how did you do it??" is in what i'm doing. if i'm not giving you anything, it's because i don't have it, or i don't know if i have it, which is something for me to evaluate.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 16:48 phf: well, if we don't, i'll see if i can get an unlock through corporate channels, and just use it as a one off machine
phf: i don't know when i've learned about the source, it's on public github, i don't know if i've even seen you mention your snap4 work, or at which point i've forgotten it.
phf: asciilifeform: i don't know what you're proposing, because you haven't proposed anything. i've proposed that i go through the dump, find all the relevant bits to your project, and communicate them to you. this is apparently unacceptable
mircea_popescu: i don't even care, past the (i'd have thought obvious) point whereby specific lines of argument simply can't be brought.
phf: i don't know how you missed my previous sentence, none of these people have "the dump", because there's no dump outside of the work i did.
mircea_popescu: i don't happen to agree, is all, but this with no prejudice.
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't think we have nearly enough drama. a serious project would have more drama.
mircea_popescu: nfi, i don't watch this so closely. but on the strength of data presented...
mircea_popescu: "nd resulted in the misuse of charitable assets for the benefit of Donald J. Trump ("Mr. ("Trump") Trump" and his personal, political and/or business interests. In sum, the Investigation revealed that the Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments to not-for-profits from Mr. Trump or the Trump Organization." << i don't get it... so was it used for his benefit or at his cost ?
diana_coman: hm, I did not read it as a neutral symbol, hence my "" for it; but I don't really know how to convey more clearly that it's the opposite of actual smart (other than either explicitly noting that or using the "" that seems to fail to work)
diana_coman: ftr I don't mean it in the sense that anyone in there got attacked; simply in the sense that it started from something and ended up in an entirely (if totally valid!) different place
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was going to post on http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 ; but i'm not about to do gymnastics for it. note that i don't ask you to genuflect before commenting on trilema!
mircea_popescu: (and the fact that nobody asked "which, the pole or the prussian" kinda is exactly what i'm talking about. what the fuck, we're going to discuss things we don't know about, meh)
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 11:41 phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure he doesn't have PAL sources in digital form, and if he does, i think it's purely accidental i.e. there are source files on some tape or some drive, but i don't think he'll be able to find them from memory
phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure he doesn't have PAL sources in digital form, and if he does, i think it's purely accidental i.e. there are source files on some tape or some drive, but i don't think he'll be able to find them from memory ☟︎
diana_coman: this is not to say that any week would take the same, as I don't expect it would
diana_coman: hm, I don't yet see it that way but it'll become clear one way or another quite quickly
phf: asciilifeform, yeah i just included the patches in case there's something interesting there (i don't know what the overlap of patchsets is between machines)
phf: (there are some other hacks in genera-src, but i don't want to investigate at the moment)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, certainly should provide whatever diagnosis tools and equipment you want. i don't want to fill that in yet, it'll... come to you, as it happens :)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't know if/that that is indeed the only thing that can kill the socket; and testing won't quite tell me either
diana_coman: I mean don't keep trying to send on a closed socket sort of thing
diana_coman: I don't mean "resend this packet"
diana_coman: I don't know but given Close_Socket(S), ignoring seems rather ...
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I made it generic so I don't have to copy/paste code just for different const
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't follow - 1mn clients can send 1mn datagrams to server, what has serpent to do ?
diana_coman: I lost count how many times I told him to go & exploit but apparently I don't know anything about modern vulnerabilities that can't be exploited
mircea_popescu: so... "if you don't want to rue the day you were born, better make sure i'm not out looking for a job ever. i hate that shit."
Mocky: anyway, I don't think specialist job applier is all that hard to do. tech companies are ripe for being gamed
Mocky: no mr. recruiter I don't have experience with Docker, as fun as that sounds
mircea_popescu: "i have an employer" is the substance of the insanity here discussed. no, you don't HAVE jack. it has.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it wouldn't be possible, tbh.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you were following my "suppose". let's do over.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is ~exactly~ what i'm leveraging : ALL abstractions are "closed-source" by their very nature -- witness how cats don't read them. then let's use this natural barrier to select the future lordship.
mircea_popescu: i utterly don't need a scriptable wrapper to do string manipulation, what the holy shit is this, onyl someone who grew up on c strings can imagine such nonsense.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 21:44 mircea_popescu: not afaik. tho honestly the idiocy of "equity" as practiced in common law / intuited by the runts in every litter + their enablers is such monumental nonsense as i don't expect can be readily unpacked.
mircea_popescu: not afaik. tho honestly the idiocy of "equity" as practiced in common law / intuited by the runts in every litter + their enablers is such monumental nonsense as i don't expect can be readily unpacked. ☟︎
diana_coman: well yes, I don't see how can "inclusion" happen without subversion, no
phf: oh, i don't know what you guys achieved in html mode, because i'm looking at the result in lynx
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 20:18 mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're happy with fixwidth font and "works in terminal" i also don't see your problem, wrap in <pre> tags and so something like http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4NHpp/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, i don't think they implemented arbitrary shearing of fonts.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're happy with fixwidth font and "works in terminal" i also don't see your problem, wrap in <pre> tags and so something like http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4NHpp/?raw=true ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-11#1879580 << i don't get it, why would you nuke it ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not reading all that, but i also don't believe i need to.
diana_coman: come to think of it re 221 I don't get it; even without a calc, still: 2 no because odd, 3 no because 2+2+1=5, 5 no because 1 at end, 7 no because 21, then 11, 11 no because 22, 1, 13 takes a bit perhaps but...
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that might be it re mic - while I can certainly screech if try, I usually don't; never had problems with audience not hearing me but the recording ugh
diana_coman: I also move quite a lot actually, I don't tend to sit by the laptop or anything of the sort
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo, is the mp-wp on pizarro's shared server broken or what ? i don't understand how http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 is possible otherwise ?
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing! think for a second : "i don't know of a case of a star created out of either foreign material or accreted local material"
lobbes: I just made a tiny fix to auctionbot. Everything seems to be working well and I don't anticipate any problems. Still, I'll be around for the rest of today in case there are.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: logs suggest we have 2 outstanding wires; i don't suppose either have cleared yet, have they?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878296 << i don't expect that's gonna happen. ☝︎
asciilifeform: as often is the case, the answr to 'doctor, it hurts when i do that' is 'don't do that'
mircea_popescu: that said, yes there's evidently a mysql-vs-postrgres holy war in the brewing here. but i don't think that boil's baked enough for lancing just yet.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:08 mircea_popescu: previous thinking was generally that a regrind pretty much means collapsing a whole tree into a single genesis patch. but thinking about it i don't see why that has to be the case, if there's the hands to do more fine work.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 13:08 mircea_popescu: previous thinking was generally that a regrind pretty much means collapsing a whole tree into a single genesis patch. but thinking about it i don't see why that has to be the case, if there's the hands to do more fine work.
mircea_popescu: previous thinking was generally that a regrind pretty much means collapsing a whole tree into a single genesis patch. but thinking about it i don't see why that has to be the case, if there's the hands to do more fine work. ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sorry, i don't follow
a111: Logged on 2015-03-04 01:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: beria actually picked up women... << based on the sources, i don't regard it as a solid historical fact
mircea_popescu: fact of the matter, for ~these reasons~ i don't even believe mit told original symbolics&co fucktards to be fucktards. ☟︎
danielpbarron: i don't know of any believers anywhere else
danielpbarron: i don't care so much about gaswagon; Bible says to obey laws
danielpbarron: as for me, there is the poker bot that i haven't done yet, but i don't know that it needs its own whole machine
danielpbarron: yeah, i don't want to offend people over things that aren't nessessary (the Gospel is offensive enough)
mircea_popescu: but i mean... you don't even have the spec against which to check this "works" ?
asciilifeform: ( i.e. you don't, not till you actually bake a working and satisfying cloned circuit )
amberglint: asciilifeform: I also have an article about NS somewhere, don't know if you have it yet
SeanRiddle: I leave it for someone with better equipment. I don't have any lapping equipment.
zx2c4: I agree with you in spirit -- I think learning details of a proof enough that you have all of it in your head is a good pedagogical approach and gives you more mathematical agility as you progress forward. I just don't know about the ontological statement regarding the proof's validity
zx2c4: I more or less know the process involved but don't have all of the steps in my head. And as I wrote it down, I forget the details of previously written steps while working out current new steps. Yet I have faith in the process of writing it down systematically and having intermediate results from pages prior
asciilifeform: zx2c4: point being, i don't practice haskellism. and nit from being illiterate yokel who has nfi how. it so happens that i know how. but consider the whole approach to be braindamaged .
asciilifeform: in all seriousness, i don't even presently know of a more leprous pile of shit, either on pedigree or technical pov.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 17:10 Mocky: in truth i do feel like idjit for being old man without the brains to have saved anything. i don't even have a workshop full of shit like asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: back in the days of pam grier's youth, her brother going "i'm black. i don't dance. i don't athlete. i don't sing. wtf should i do ?!" was kind-of a joke. now though...
Mocky: in truth i do feel like idjit for being old man without the brains to have saved anything. i don't even have a workshop full of shit like asciilifeform ☟︎☟︎☟︎
danielpbarron: i know what is not the reason, beyond that perhaps i don't know
danielpbarron: i don't see the two being exclusive of each other. If you are saying that I don't do enough here, I can't disagree. But the reason for not doing enough isn't that I am morally opposed to it. If i'm to be removeed as lord it should be because I have been too lazy about it; not that it was in irreconcilable conflict with my religious beliefs
danielpbarron: i don't think it is wrong to be involved in this or any other government, in principle
mircea_popescu: i'm rather curious what goes on in your own mind, which is why i said i don't follow the logic. "i wanna be in the lordship though i don't think the republic makes sense". well ?!
mircea_popescu: i don't even know it's a requirement. for that matter, it's not clear how precisely the republic would even come to notice something as ridiculously trivial as whatever religious belief (unless i suppose you end up doing dumb shit "because of it", but even then, 0 difference between "religion" and "but then i got high" or w/e).
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall, rando hanger-on from the -otc days.
mircea_popescu: i don't want that moron touching my food. restaurant is for subbie sluts anyway, who the fuck needs this item.
mircea_popescu: there's somewhere i explain the problem with small children, that they take a look at world around them, which creates a snapshot in their mind that's static, and then they fall over because they don't natively understand that just because the fulcrum's left side is up like the chair next to it is up, nevertheless, the load bearing capacity of the fulcrum is less than a percent of the chairs'.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't remember any barf bag of my own!
trinque: ah, don't mind me then. I agree entirely.