mircea_popescu: other people gotta pay for such magic mushrooms. good dough!
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent 3 days, 4 hours, and 59 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> didja find the eggog ? you estimated 'wednesday', and the day is nearly at end..
ben_vulpes: mod6: i ask for your corroboration of a log line in that letter.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i will let you know if i need more time to finish the august audit by tomorrow eve.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Let me know if ther is anything I can do to help
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Also let me know if you have any questions about how the clarifying notes were cut from the listing of customer accounts should you have the time. I would like to kill the idea of a pile of clarifying notes being something every account has and restrict account particular notes to being a rare thing noted for eventually bringing an account into concordance with standards, however they fall.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i certainly will on both points, although not tonight. i don't see sticking subscriptions into a db as a particularly difficult thing at all.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: What I've mostly been running into is archaeology, three people saying the same thing three different ways.
ben_vulpes: one of the things dbs are good for is the shared spreadshit and enforcement of only one way of saying things. razoring off places to get creative is a boon to getting shit done.
ben_vulpes: provided the shit getting done is largely the same time and again.
mircea_popescu: kinda interesting premise for a short, someone starts a drying clinic ~for memories~. "yes mr x, we understand you haven't been drinking for years... but your memories of a decade ago still need wringing out!"
mircea_popescu: "Mircea_popescu made the point that, useful people are useful and not useful is useless" ; "Qatar has no sense about opportunity" ; "Bingoboingo provided an update on qntra that, Canada has no bud to sell" this shit is fucking histerical.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-03 22:38 mircea_popescu: Mocky so i guess next step is make an appointment with their minister of technology, industry, or whatever the fuck, explain to the secretarial overseer you end up seeing that the republic is in principle willing to do some tech transfer help them become a real country, exchange confused nods and handshakes and set the bozo bit on the ball of faux carpeting yarn pretending to be a country ?
mircea_popescu: in fairness, there's also the occasional gem. "Forced conduct prohibits genuine relationships" no shit. it's like reading the charlie chaplin version of carnegie.
Mocky: trinque, is there anything wrong with my pending withdrawals from a few days ago or do you just need to hand crank em?
mircea_popescu: good fucking thing these morons "progress&civil rights for women". because totally, living in a concrete box @"the beautiful" as a sex slave so much beats being a 1950s housewife
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, gotta tell the history with fidelity to the memory.
BingoBoingo: Even if the source material is blurry, incomplete, and associated with very strong feelings however inconsistent they are.
trinque: Mocky: getting to it right now
trinque: and various other backlog items
trinque: asciilifeform: pacific northwest I wager
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, where the liberal mares run free
mircea_popescu: ellajanex 23F Undecided "You wrote a whole message in the header? I can’t even read that shit." LordMPofTMSR "Think of it as an intelligence test. That you're failing." ellajanex "I’m out of school i don’t need tests or games lmao" << there, might that substitute ?
mircea_popescu: the pnw is where the liberal mares are "outta school", no moar patriarchy to beat them until they either die or perform at their own liberal option.
mircea_popescu: there's subtle differences chicken farmers notice and anyone else doesn't re sickly chickens.
mircea_popescu: the body ain't linear, a certain % works one way then... exactly.
mircea_popescu: well in practice i havent ; in theory i dunno, cuz we're believers in the human spirit and haven't yet turned down someone because he's black or whatever ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, do you see how this relates to the ia/ai discussion ?
mircea_popescu: you wanna fix the brains that are, or replace them with some other brains that aren't ?
deedbot: bullcosby voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: the articulation of the comparison is (brains as in w/e makes males valuable) vs (whatever makes females valuable). as a gender construct.
mircea_popescu: if you're willing to teach bois math, why aren't you willing to sew girls a new coat.
mircea_popescu: bullcosby that's my slavegirl on my roof of my buenos aires residence a few years ago.
deedbot: echelon voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: and this does not apply to teaching bois math because ? math also won't fix the underlying problem that resulted in their having to learn how to think properly in the first place.
echelon: how do i identify myself to deedbot, it says my key is already registered
mircea_popescu: bullcosby suppose you just read all of trilema as a goodboi, and let it change what you are, rather than expect you're important enough for your malformed desires to be gratified.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 17:44 asciilifeform: i had to algebraize the thing , and have just the right rng bits flip in head , to get the 'ceiling tiles' ( why didn't mircea_popescu get'em in '15 ? )
mircea_popescu: in that obvious is just as obvious as any other obvious.
echelon: mircea_popescu: which command initiates otp?
echelon: i did, and it said: You may not $up yourself.
trinque: you are not rated. try introducing yourself first.
trinque: ^ apparently oldtimer but not l1 rated
echelon: i dunno, it said i was already registered
mircea_popescu: echelon deedbot imported gribbles ratings back in the day.
mircea_popescu: the reason you can't up yourself is that nobody here cares about the people who rated you there (indeed, some are known scammers, some are entirely unknown nobodies etc).
mircea_popescu: nanotube is the dood that was going to fix gribble to work with deedbot, then didn't. used to have some clout, then a little clout, by today indistinguishable from w/e last months; crop of wanna-bes, fluffypony, josh garza, whatever.
echelon: well, i dunno anything about the interchannel politics
echelon: danielpbarron called into lrh last night
a111: 2018-10-15 <danielpbarron> !!up slycordinator
mircea_popescu: echelon ok, so do you do anything ? are you notable for any reason ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
mircea_popescu: not really so much wanting to "transform" anything other than the misfortunate situation where the system doesn't seem to recognize their mental picture of their own station. in the sense that why does it see them so low!!!
echelon: mircea_popescu: i was the one that originally did the documentation for setting up hidden service fallback nodes, before the client had built-in support for it
trinque: echelon: got any other hobbies besides cp on govnet?
mircea_popescu: "[04:17] <echelon> so has anyone tried launching a rocket from a balloon?"
mircea_popescu: "[1:40] <echelon> hi, i installed ubuntu server on a 2011.12 model of raspberry pi model b"
mircea_popescu: lol. srsly, other than hipstering about, do you actually do anything ?
mircea_popescu: "echelon hi, i need to read a structured spreadsheet type of file that's in binary, basically involves reading the record which is the header information as to how the records are structured, and then reading the records. how would i go about doing this?" and so on ad infinitum.
echelon: i'm not active with anything atm, i'm an out of work devops eng
echelon: development/operations engineer
echelon: for automated deployments and integrated testing
echelon: i worked for hbo, setup their forensic watermarking service
echelon: worked for a bitcoin exchange
ben_vulpes: clickin buttons in bezosnet and mashin tab in intellij?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is a forensic watermark anyway ? don't you have to have the watermarks ~before~ you can "forensic" ?
deedbot: echelon voiced for 30 minutes.
echelon: ben_vulpes: yeah, on bezosnet, but using the api for automated provisioning with ansible and stuff
mircea_popescu: what's this supposed to even be, in human language, "i wrote the bills of purchase for the project manager in charge of provisioning the one room in hbo tower where they take copied hard-drives to see whether there's hbo shows on them, aka devops eng" ?
echelon: mircea_popescu: it's like stegonagraphic watermarking, so even if you resize the video resolution, they could forensically identify the source of the piracy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imo he's just repeating something he's read online.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 23:14 mircea_popescu: "who do you think will win, mr 13, the team with two guys and monkeys or the team with three guys and monkeys ?"
echelon: asciilifeform: it was watermarked in real-time on their "go" service
mircea_popescu: drinking by yourself, you know. what the fuck is it ? some variant of the above.
echelon: i dunno if they do anything different now
echelon: mircea_popescu: yeah, it was actually a separate service from "now" streaming service
echelon: "go" was an offering for cable/satellite subscribers
mircea_popescu: mkay. and the idea was to put the ip or w/e of the "subscriber" into the downloads so that if they turn up on torrents hbo lawyers know what soccer mom to send abusive readers' digest spam to ?
mircea_popescu: ie, a job that's strictly impossible in the general case, but then again dealing with the sort of morons who actually care about hbo, so not quite hard to do in particular.
echelon: yeah, but most pirates just ripped from a tv tuner anyway, so i don't think it had much effect
mircea_popescu: and so it's "devops" because what exactly, you wrote them a ruby gem or w/e. ?
echelon: no, i just worked with ansible and aws api's mostly
mircea_popescu: the chicks that commission actual installations for me, be it an acre of ground-to-ground missile tubes or a parking lot, are devops. not the chicks that copy recipe books.
echelon: and log centralization and alerts
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may. there's ~nothing of interest to you here, so you can just safely forget about it.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 07:13 ben_vulpes: mod6: i ask for your corroboration of a log line in that letter.
trinque: for those waiting on withdrawals, I'll return and complete them once I stock back up on .....paper! brb
trinque: big transactions take a lulzy amount of the stuff to import into the cold wallet
mod6: BingoBoingo: Can you confirm for us all that you have '0.20113128 BTC' (from ben_vulpes' note above) set aside from bbisp, etc? I only ever see ".2xxxx" mentioned in places.
trinque: just wrote a tool to minimize the human component of doing that, though.
mod6: ben_vulpes: An interesting item from your note says:
mod6: "Let's show what we're filtering out as well:", to which this tx, amount, and date appear:
mod6: d10b713fd66312f2a498b8b93620d87836283bafcbd4b969b1b842ccf11b2beb | ben_vulpes | 6.56190000 | 2018-07-11 06:52:43.265797-07 | Transfer of entirety of outstanding Pizarro funds to deedbot wallet.
☟︎ mod6: The amount and the date appear to be off to me.
mod6: Before that tx, where you send me the remaining pizarro funds, my balance was "0.08479669 BTC".
mod6: This is how much I received, and on the 15th
mod6: pay | ben_vulpes | mod6 | 6.21445021 | 6.29924690 | 2018-07-15 05:29:59.365463+00
mod6: (this all from what I consider to be the 'source-of-truth'; my deedbot wallet ledger)
mod6: I can confirm that approximately ".2" was said to be held in BingoBoingo's custody outside of the deedbot wallet. And I can confirm that I have notes that state that you paid mats .3, and to reduce the amount by .5 total.
mod6: Anyway, if it's helpful, I'm happy to sign my deedbot wallet ledger and publish it for those to review. Just say the word and will do.
mod6: trinque could even audit my publication and signoff that it indeed matches his records if need be.
mod6: Anyway, we all know that I'm not very clued on this stuff, but I don't see how your records say you sent '6.56190000' to me, and my deedbot wallet ledger shows '6.21445021'.
mod6: Ok, I see where you got that number now.
mod6: !Qcalc 6.71445021 - 0.50000000
mod6: Not sure why the dates are off a bit, but the amount seems to make sense to me now.
mod6: Does that complete any corroboration that you were looking for?
mod6: (Thank you again for conducting this audit, I very much appreciate it.)
jurov: !!invoice BingoBoingo 0.02 CoinBr asset transfer
jurov: !!v 5D4542B2AB14558C471992A29B4050DBF1C692C165925B2BB7D6F5697A6FF7CE
deedbot: Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.02 << CoinBr asset transfer
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 16:57 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ave1 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , other folx with a gnat and 10min of free time -- asciilifeform would like to see outputs of
http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/thousand_muls.txt ( ch12 benchmark ) on various irons
jurov: BingoBoingo: diana_coman: the shares were pushed
diana_coman: jurov, BingoBoingo confirmed, I can see them; thanks!
trinque: mod6: you don't want me derping about like I'm republican transunion. there isn't such a thing.
mod6: As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know.
☟︎ trinque: the wot is already the mechanism to do what you're trying to get me to do.
trinque: and it's better than the imperial "some faceless dork with a hat vouches for everyone"
mod6: True, at the end of the day, someone has to take my word for it though when it comes to me signing my ledger.
mod6: Someway to cross-reference this if need-be could be a service. But like I said. Whateves.
trinque: certainly not whatever. I'm not becoming a source of information about people's bot use. the panopticon habits are not made clean when somebody calling himself a lord picks them up.
trinque: it is *your* choice what you say about yourself and that's where it ends.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 20:04 mod6: d10b713fd66312f2a498b8b93620d87836283bafcbd4b969b1b842ccf11b2beb | ben_vulpes | 6.56190000 | 2018-07-11 06:52:43.265797-07 | Transfer of entirety of outstanding Pizarro funds to deedbot wallet.
mod6: ben_vulpes: makes sense, thanks.
ben_vulpes: mod6: sorry for the obtuse ask last night. it's not strictly necessary, but i would like you to corroborate that i wrote those two lines to you in a private message on that date. if you grep for "once i get your signoff", you'll find what i'm talking about.
mod6: I do have logs of that, would you like me to paste them here?
mod6: (18:24) <ben_vulpes> once i get your signoff on that report, i'll send the balance of the cash to your deedbot account
mod6: (18:25) <ben_vulpes> .2 is sitting in bingoboingo's posession, and .3 was sent to mats in july, so reduce the cash balance by .5 and that's what i'll deliver you
ben_vulpes: in retrospect, doing any of this in pm was entirely unnecessary and counterproductive.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-18 21:03 mod6: As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know.
mod6: I dunno, bad idea I guess. Just realized that there really is no way to verify someones ledger.
mod6: Other than just by what people say.
mod6: I guess I didn't know that.
mod6: I actually figured, that in the case where or if someone's deedbot history was ever called into question, someone would verify the claim.
mod6: Anyway, I apologize for bringing it up.
trinque: if someone shows me the thing didn't work, I go fix a bug, but dispute resolution between users happens in *your* courts, not mine. if I later condescend to involve myself in the affairs of lowlier folks than anyone present, it'll come yes with a hefty fee, or hanging both, or whatever most dissuades the behavior.
mircea_popescu: mod6 that's fine and dandy, but look how the logic works : 1) the republic exists principally as a succession of schelling points, meaning that "given a situation of structure X, republican will land on selection y" ; 2) the impression is hard to shake that with ~extreme regularity~ your landing diverges from that y, and in specific ways. which leads to 3) somehow mod6 ended up mentally at odds with the fundamentals of tmsr,
mircea_popescu: which then leads to the suspicion that 4) regular dosing with idiocy through direct exposure in his daily life is poisoning mod6.
mod6: I didn't think that was the case! I thought I was being quite logical, tbh.
mod6: Anyway, I know I've fallen out of favor with many, for apparent idiocy.
mod6: Like I said, Mr. P. I'll be stepping away. I only remain just to answer ben_vulpes's questions.
mircea_popescu: no, i know, that's the problem. you thought you were being logical, and the logical thread you were following went along the lines of...
mod6: I didn't mean any offense by the thread, I hope you and trinque will forgive.
mircea_popescu: nobody's offended, man. we're concerned, because you seem to have contracted earworm.
trinque: yeah, I'm not looking for an emotional connection here when I'm talking to you.
trinque: you responded to 0% of the substance of what I said, and came back with "sorry you don't like me". come on, give it some effort!
mod6: Maybe being around here so long has blurred the lines for me, I consider you guys my friends.
mod6: Perhaps, a mistake.
trinque: I don't see how I'm not being a friend, if you like.
mod6: Well, to your point of "emotional".
mod6: And to the 0% part, I just responded "Cool." because you reminded me of what was right and proper.
mod6: I have no real argument with your wanting to stay out of any type of arguments, or discuss anyones deedbot tx's. Which, is the rightful thing to do.
mod6: Basically, if someone says, "mod6 is liar!", and I publish my deedbot ledger, well, then it stands alone. To be evaluated at face value.
mod6: Thanks for the wake-up call.
mod6 will bbl to answer q's if required.
trinque: taking it the other way, now there's this process where trinque swears to whoever's ledger that asks (fee or not, doesn't matter here). this comes to signify something, trustworthiness, w/e., can go to wells fargo now and bring in this credit report to get a mortgage. now folks come churn deedbot to produce this empty signifier. later trinque is asked to you know, DETECT FRAUD, maybe with machine learning
☟︎ trinque: if you don't see how this leads straight to the contemporary hell, you do need to take that vacation.
mod6: I see your point totally.
mircea_popescu: hey, we went through a week or so of nubbins going "mp is a liar!!!", did exactly jack.
mod6: You know, I just went for a quick walk, and the cold air did me some good. I think maybe part of my problem is that the stress from being in the soup for the better part of a year has been a bit rough on me mentally. Been saying idiotic things without thinking, pasting shit without thinking, etc. I dunno feels like a bit of sand-falling through my hands - trying to get back into the good graces without ta
mod6: king the explicit time to get my head screwed back on straight.
mod6: I do appreciate the wake up call, and I take your words to hard. I'll do better to take a long rest/break and stop spinning my damn brain so hard.
mod6: *nod* alright, I gotta run here for a bit. but will bbl. <3
BingoBoingo: What else can you expect from the prototypical Pantsuit slave society