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fluffypony: xmj: Monero's PoW
fluffypony: also because Monero = coin in Esperanto, so Bitmonero literally means Bitcoin
fluffypony: bitmonero == monero, the guy that launched it wanted merged mining and other bullshit, the community voted against it, he tried to put it in anyway, so we forked it away from him into Monero
Apocalyptic: how's monero these days ?
jurov: from #monero:
mircea_popescu: hey fluffypony do you plan to eventually sell the monero idea here once it reaches some sort of maturity or do you just plan to wait indefinitely for b-a to figure it out ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: monero-project/urs GitHub
fluffypony: which leads to neat spin-off projects like this: https://github.com/monero-project/urs/
xmj: why is monero more awesome than everything else?
assbot: monero-project/bitmonero GitHub
fluffypony: http://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero
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punkman: fluffypony, how's monero these days?
assbot: Dave's Data: Minting Money with Monero ... and CPU vector intrinsics
punkman: http://da-data.blogspot.com/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.html
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Vexual: monero, barbeque and an ale?
assbot: Poloniex Welcomes New Monero (XMR) Markets
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: https://www.poloniex.com/press-releases/2014.07.23-Poloniex-Welcomes-New-Monero-XMR-Markets
fluffypony: http://monero.cc/downloads/whitepaper_annotated.pdf
fluffypony: nobody's forcing anyone to find Monero interesting
benkay: so the dealer can't say i sent coins to that address with monero?
fluffypony: and then you said that Monero was SOL
benkay: if the shipment gets intercepted on the way back to me, monero's not going to save my ass
fluffypony: the Monero blockchain won't reveal your balance, when you spend, how much you spend, or on what
benkay: in which case, even monero's SOL.
fluffypony: gmaxwell has a test implementation of it, but judging by his comments in #monero-dev he doesn't like its fit with BTC much
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Isn't monero the same bullshit since it isn't Altcoin, the only worthwhile altcoin
ThickAsThieves: monero is rocketing too
fluffypony: I'll be over here in the Monero corner giggling evilly
fluffypony: yes - talking about Monero in particular
benkay: how would one draw a distinction between, say Ethereum, Bitcoin and Monero?
punkman: fluffypony: so why do you like this Monero thing? wouldn't you rather have cash tokens based on bitcoin?
fluffypony: asciilifeform:re: monero et al: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CryptoNight <- the wiki says that, the whitepaper says otherwise. even the site says "Our algorithm requires about 2 Mb per instance" - whoever edited the wiki is clearly a turd.
asciilifeform: re: monero et al: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CryptoNight - 'A megabyte of internal memory is almost unacceptable for the modern ASICs.' << got fpga with 1MB+ block sram right here in a crate.
mircea_popescu: had a discussion with gmaxwell a few days ago about ring signatures, and he agrees that it could be done in a kludgy way in BTC, but it's an unlikely thing to happen, so Monero will possibly carve out a nice niche among the darknet markets crowd << that's exactly right, it could perhaps be implemented but if it is it'll be a private extension.
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> re: 'monero': 'Egalitarian proof of work' << do we need to read past this line ? // my thoughts exactly
asciilifeform: re: 'monero': 'Egalitarian proof of work' << do we need to read past this line ? ☟︎
fluffypony: benkay: that's moot, I'm already heavily invested in BTC (the equivalent of "learn Common Lisp" by analogy), finding Monero interesting and possibly worthwhile does not change my position on BTC but is, rather, a direct result of the knowledge already accumulated
benkay: fluffypony re monero: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3206985430398054@naggum.net.html
fluffypony: had a discussion with gmaxwell a few days ago about ring signatures, and he agrees that it could be done in a kludgy way in BTC, but it's an unlikely thing to happen, so Monero will possibly carve out a nice niche among the darknet markets crowd
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: Monero is different - I tend to abandon the rest because they're all Bitcoin forks
fluffypony: all the rigs are off atm, got a few EC2 instances mining Monero but will switch them off in a few days
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: Monero, but as its not forked from Bitcoin its a bit of a bitch to integrate
davidlatapie: joecool: about what? My own blog, mintcoin blog, monero blog?
davidlatapie: I'm French, manager of Mintcoin, core team member of Monero (and other things probably not important here)
fluffypony: Monero!
Quanttek: that's probably monero's biggest challenge: fixing the code and making the code more readable
mircea_popescu: anyone bored enough care to eval this monero thing ?
assbot: Bytecoin Monero CryptoNote
mircea_popescu: http://www.coinssource.com/monero-cryptonote-bytecoin-2nd-generation-anonymity/ this thing ?
pankkake: why monero and not bytecoin? aren't they the same thing basically?
mircea_popescu: what is monero ? (mp wants to stay up to date too)
Quanttek: mircea_popescu: just a lurker and community manager of monero who wants to stay up to date
fluffypony: JorgePasada: I like VertCoin because it keeps my GPU frames in business; I'm peripherally interested in PPC because of PoS; I think X11 based coins like Darkcoin are playing with some interesting concepts, and I am VERY interested in (the new) Bytecoin's ring signatures (although I prefer Monero as it's Bytecoin's code but without the dodgy premine/possibly faked blockchain data)