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mod6: mircea_popescu: way to hurt some butts in the USGavin trilema article. good read. :)
assbot: USGavin, the lolcow pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/usgavin-the-lolcow/
mircea_popescu: anyway, got a meeting. we can resume usgavin and the five fail dwarves discussion later.
mircea_popescu: "Why are you lying ?" is a good start. "Why are you acting as if Bitcoin were a USG project ? It's not, you are."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves amusingly, usgavin is pulling out the "your shit's not usg certified" card.
mircea_popescu: no amount of thumbing nose and general pretense is going to help. mpxxx will drive usgxxx anything out of the market. period and full stop.
mircea_popescu: here's the scoop : if the usg does not standardize good crypto, mp WILL. and the result wil be that mp's standards will drive the nist out of the market.
asciilifeform: usg wants you in one of '3 d-s' - despondent, dependent, or dead.
assbot: Logged on 28-03-2014 16:21:08; asciilifeform: when the usg banned the instant 'hiv' tester device, the argument, if i recall, was that people would kill themselves on learning the result, if no surrounded by government-approved shrinks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: only because no one yet has the audacity to list usg payola as 'profit' << ahaha this'll be fun
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: how are you to fight the usg thusly? << clearly, one who "does not understand how the world works", the highest honor said usg can bestow upon people.
kakobrekla: usg/usa
kakobrekla: for usg i cant speak
kakobrekla: usg interested in euro bills?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: are these 'bitcoin atm' or simply usg meatprint collectors ?
decimation: 'lie detector' is still used for this purpose against usg employees
decimation: bounce: the purpose of the security around the president is so the bureaucrats who really run usg can demonstrate their enthusiasm for the current symbol-in-chief
decimation: asciilifeform: there's an even deeper truth there - the reality is that usg doesn't have the 'People' needed to determine actual truth
asciilifeform: this is why you see fp readers at usg facilities, in consumer finance, iPnohes, etc.
asciilifeform: my hypothesis re: biometrics is, imho, the only one proposed so far that has explanatory power for the fact that idiotically lame, e.g., fingerprint readers, nevertheless are happily deployed en masse by usg ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: only because no one yet has the audacity to list usg payola as 'profit'
ben_vulpes: how are you to fight the usg thusly?
decimation: I feel sorry for those whose god is usg - he constantly stabs his followers in the back.
decimation: mircea_popescu: people like her run the 'ideas' side of usg
asciilifeform: usg employs enormous numbers of these wretches. usually through subcontractors.
mircea_popescu: ;;google scientology infiltrated the usg stole fbi irs and other secret paperwork
ben_vulpes: what's the background on "scientologists raped the usg in the 70s" claim?
decimation: seems like a risky proposition if one lives within reach of usg
asciilifeform: the rest - prey animals for the 'tough on cyb3rsc4mz0rs!!!111!! arm of usg.
bounce: the usg thing is a layer cake of fail. but yes, you'll end up with /some/ subsidizing in any such system. over the long run you'll have been young, subsidizing the old, and old, mooching off of the young both.
asciilifeform: usg works this kind of scheme.
mircea_popescu: bounce last i heard, the usg was throwing money into the street because "gotta spend"
mircea_popescu: lol usg running out of cash ?
mats_cd03: i am curious what percentage of eth is recycled USG cents and duped chumps
Adlai: usg: "respect my authoritah!"
mircea_popescu: usg: "you have the right to blablabla" cartman: "fuck you, i do what i want"
pete_dushenski: the usgcannon is regressing from a-bombs to slingshots, slowly but surely.
mircea_popescu: so no, the usg didn't black nationality anything. it just put a bunch of thugs away, and much fewer than it either could or should have.
mircea_popescu: (and notice that the scientologists raped the fuck out of the usg, in the 70s. back when it was still a thing)
mircea_popescu: there's two points here. the easy to dispatch one is the naive narcissism. i can see why you'd imagine the usg is important or powerful. this is neither true or particularly likely, from a neutral pov. but moving on,
undata: one can look to black nationalism for an example of how the usgov deals with an actual, organized opposition
asciilifeform: plumbook is not interesting because of the appointees (everybody who gives half a damn already knows who they are.) but for the 'ses' bureaucrats, the real backbone of usg.
decimation: usg 'party planner' types studious grade each bureaucrat with the military equivalent, and then rank in parties appropriately
asciilifeform: (didja know that usg has an actual nomenklatura? i didn't, until it was shown to me. the document isn't even secret.)
decimation: asciilifeform: re: your 'escape' plans << it's true that in the us your property isn't safe, least of all from usg - but is there really a country that credibly offers a better deal
decimation: my point is merely that usg has generally shown to be plain incompetent, not conspiratorially incompetent
asciilifeform: decimation: apple and usg are not distinct entities.
decimation: I suspect that usg is apple's bitch and not vice versa
bounce: oh, there it is. it's not teh jooz, nor the big bankers, it's the carnies that're secretly running the usg!
jurov: usg debt policy, too
ThickAsThieves: i see nothing in this post about usg
mircea_popescu: yeah, "the one which was a usg front openly and from day one, totally legit"
bounce: or used a computer network with connections to usg at some point in their lives
kakobrekla: or those who have visited usg
kakobrekla: i can see how usg will want at least usg customers coins
kakobrekla: let them stupid videos of how usg has no fucking clue be public and be broadcasted even live
mircea_popescu: to make it perfectly clear : no team that in any way includes any of the currently proscribed usg agents (gavin, maxwell, hearn etc) can ever make a fork. never.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: your reply to 'instazap' - as a young man, i had the 'fortune' to work in one of those small scamatronics firms scattered around wash.dc. they made (well, collected money from usg to make, supposedly) small robots.
asciilifeform: i.e. it would cost usg more to actively remove penny, nickel, dime, from circulation, than anyone stands to gain thereby.
asciilifeform: various sec flaws being 'hangout' leaks is a hypothesis compatible with their continued active exploitation by their authors (usg)
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/after-defeating-it-in-the-bitcoin-market-la-serenissima-bleeds-the-usg-all-over-the-dow/
asciilifeform: or by an anonymous kid who plants wifi bugs, which forward captures to his wpa cracking cluster, around usg facilities
thickasthieves: mp, qntra being a news site, shouldnt you include some sources for your USG accusations?
assbot: Title: After defeating it in the Bitcoin market, La Serenissima bleeds the USG a - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: hey! mr usg man, play a song for me
mircea_popescu: hey ! mr usg man, play a song for me
ben_vulpes: they do enjoy themselves, and the USG keeps otherwise brilliant and hardworking people from being useful at large.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cisco << i personally oversaw robot legs (steel pipes) purchased for several hundy usd each, while a thrall of usg - much less cisco
kakobrekla: USG is after you!
mircea_popescu: lol wait. he got owned by the usms while using usg operated silk road ?!
BingoBoingo: Asks a lot of unanswerable questions about net worth. Derpy scammer is an angle usg has prolly tried before in tax cases.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think anyone but you really sees the usg case officer angle.
asciilifeform: my favourite hypothesis re mr. spam is that he is a scammer masquerading as an incompetent usg case officer.
asciilifeform: IANAL - but afaik, usg claims a total right to control the communications of prisoners. and lawyers who are suspected of stretching the official rules (e.g., getting a message out to your mother, whatever) can be effectively fired by usg.
mircea_popescu: it's also a glimpse into bitcoin's future, if usgavin and the power retard crowd have their way
decimation: one wonders if usg didn't pressure corning as part of the 'war on useful objects' err 'war on drugs'
decimation: modern usg officer is told to pacify locals without using any tools that would actually be effective
decimation: usg tests its officers for intelligence
diametric: asciilifeform: i'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion based on a single nurse that didn't follow the rules getting ebola to the usg has let it walk at leisure.
asciilifeform: ebola is interesting not because 'it's coming' but because usg clearly intends to let it walk at leisure.
diametric: asciilifeform: it kind of surprises me. if anything, i feel as though the media, and in part the usg, is making ebola sound way more serious in order to keep people in a state of panic. and you're falling right for it.
decimation: diametric: this is one of these 'tough calls' that the man-children who pretend to run the usg need to actually make
decimation: mircea_popescu: I believe usg officially values passengers at $170k per head: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/08/asiana-airlines-crash-lawsuit/2500067/
decimation: "I'm an official friend of usg, here's my pass from Stalin"
decimation: one wonders if usg actually keeps anything secret or just fills out paperwork to that effect
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems as if you're still thinking of the whole thing as a natural disaster - rather than open biological warfare by usg against own subjects
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: i haven't been using the west key system to search. instead, i've been filtering for proceedings involving USG and then pruning for terms like wiretap, warrant, email, hard drive, paperwork, and suppression of evidence.
decimation: I post this because I think it serves as a warning to usg bureaucrats - there may come a day when your 'successful career' might be seen in a very different light by your peasant neighbors.
decimation: http://youtu.be/u88vMSbX_xA << lois lerner (the usg bureaucrat who targeted mostly conservative groups for 'preferential' tax auditing - now retired and making $100k per year from usg pension) was 'targeted' while walking her dogs in Bethesda. She tries to run into a neighbor's house to 'call the police' and 'hide' - the old man of the house shows up and instructs her to leave immediately
mircea_popescu: anyway, not that anything karpeles [ever] said can be taken at face value, but admire the difference between mtgox and bitbet when it comes to the position of the usg. perfectly symmetrical, karpeles is "up to the usg" ; usg is up to bitbet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his bread and rent are paid for by usg as 'disability pension'
decimation: eh, I doubt usg will care much
gabriel_laddel: am I correct in assuming that documenting efforts in reverse engineering a particular xlinx model is illegal / will land one in trouble with usg?
mircea_popescu: "To soften my comment, I would not want to replace Gavin with some loony that thinks the USG is competent enough to undermine bitcoin in any organized way. All this talk about Mike and Gavin being stooges is absurd, and undermines my respect for much of the other (very insightful) stuff you guys write on the Internet. They can be wrong, without being corrupt."
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: usg is just alarmed hacker haz more dataz than them, so jelly <<< AAAANNDD they don't even quote trilema. not like it's been a secret over here, for the past half year or so.
thickasthieves: usg is just alarmed hacker haz more dataz than them, so jelly
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, it's pretty hard not to see how making random USG accusations isn't exactly the same as using a made-up hot-button "she used DMCA take-downs"?
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, yes in the sense that several people here have said things like "I read thorugh that twice and don't see where USG comes in"
mircea_popescu: bitcoin created what, 50bn worth of value out of the ether. didja think it all went into the usg budget or something ?