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mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: got any tips for this legal research? i'm struggling to parse meaningful data from a small mountain of case law
mats_cd03: for Africk and Bennett i was only able to find 1 relevant case each after reading ... ~1500 pages
The20YearIRCloud: I can't believe just how many people there are that are fighting over this $500/mo rental I Posted up yesterday
assbot: So who’s running the Courts circus ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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mats_cd03: my brain is melting from abuse as grep
RagnarDanneskjol: ha yes, thats rough on the noggin -better to let processor do the work
gabriel_laddel: mats_cd03: I'm curious do you think a NN would help in your search? What are you searching for?
mats_cd03: read the work linked by RagnarDanneskjol
mats_cd03: i'm chaining various terms in a boolean search of law databases
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mthreat: mats_cd03: what kind of legal research are you doing?
mats_cd03: that related to your donation, mthreat
assbot: So who’s running the Courts circus ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mthreat: mats_cd03: ok.. I asked because I did legal research and wrote briefs for 4 years.. maybe I can give some advice on legal research methods. Like using the West Key system,e tc
mats_cd03: i suspect i'm overlooking something simple, but i guess ill figure it out after i get through a few more judges
mats_cd03: i'd welcome any advice you have to offer
mthreat: first, it's been 15 years since I did this. I was in prison, so books only, no computers. But I'm 99% sure the west key systems is still teh same, it's just online now. (It was online then, actually, but I wasn't).
mthreat: so anyway, the west key system is a classification system. These days it's like 'tagging'. Each case is tagged with a set of "west keys", which are numbers that indicate what aspects of law the case relates to.
mats_cd03: i'm currently using westlaw, which is referenced to the west key system
mthreat: right. So let's say you have a case that is relevant to whatever topic you're researching, for example, search and seizure of a vehicle or something. At the start of the case, it lists all the west key items, and 1 or more of those will be for the search and seizure aspect.
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mthreat: You can then take taht west key number, and it cross-references other cases relating to that same issue.
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mthreat: not sure if this helps... maybe you already figured it out.
mats_cd03: my understanding of the digest system is shallow, and i've been hesitant to do any serious filtering in the event i miss something
mats_cd03: but it might be helpful for me to learn more about it, so i appreciate the advice
mthreat: are you in a city witha law school?
mthreat: if so, you can probably go by the law library of the school and ask the person behind the desk to help you learn how to research what you're trying to research.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: ask an albertan what he thinks of a quebecer << albertans think that quacks have the super duperest most corrupt construction industry and the the highest taxes imaginable. both of these are true, but only relative to the rest of canada.
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: so the 1.2k a month guy wont be coming back? << rip little dude.
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: ah so we are measuring traffic now? whats next, installing windows on our servers? << next is paying people to write for qntra instead of assuming they gangsta like us ;)
pete_dushenski: actually, this raises a question i might've missed in the logs...
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu are you paying the lovely folks over at qntra ?
cazalla: something like that but ya never know what these things might turn into
RagnarDanneskjol: i might be interested if you're considering sponsorship/investors cazalla
cazalla: not at this time, it's only 2 weeks old, maybe it dies tmw who knows
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decimation:
http://youtu.be/u88vMSbX_xA << lois lerner (the usg bureaucrat who targeted mostly conservative groups for 'preferential' tax auditing - now retired and making $100k per year from usg pension) was 'targeted' while walking her dogs in Bethesda. She tries to run into a neighbor's house to 'call the police' and 'hide' - the old man of the house shows up and instructs her to leave immediately
assbot: Lois Lerner tries busting into neighbor's home to evade questions - YouTube
decimation: I post this because I think it serves as a warning to usg bureaucrats - there may come a day when your 'successful career' might be seen in a very different light by your peasant neighbors.
gabriel_laddel: ;; google site: trilema.com what his unhappy life can teach us
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cazalla: anyone ever heard of people buying fkn rattlesnakes from silk road type sites before?
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assbot: Asylum, Chapter One pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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assbot: CNN| US can't cut flights to Liberia | Ebola | slavery
mircea_popescu: cazalla The book is available to purchase as a paperback via Amazon India or via Amazon Kindle << are those qntra's amazon links ? ie, you make comission ?
cazalla: it shouldn't have an affil code at all
mircea_popescu: well as a general policy, links to stuff like that (amazon, ebay, artist's own ecommerce site, etc) either hapen through an aff link and income is then reported or don't happen
cazalla: so you don't want me to link to amazon? i don't think it's worth the time to setup an affiliate code for qntra with amazon, might net $10 a year at best
mircea_popescu: well yeah, if it's not worth linking it's not worth linking.
cazalla: would it not be worth linking for the reader though?
mircea_popescu: that's a complicated discussion. maybe. on the other hand, plenty of people are put off by seeing amazon/ebay links, makes them mentally dioscount the whole page/site as "one of those"
mircea_popescu: even worse perhaps for bitcoiners, who aren't great fans of either, or what they stand for.
cazalla: which is why there is no affiliate code included with the link, i avoid the same shit
cazalla: general links is something i wanted to discuss anyway
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what their codes look like, i go by "is there anything past the address". in this case www.amazon.in/God-Gamer-Ravi-Subramanian-ebook/dp/B00MY74DJG << makes me think that's an affiliate code.
cazalla: nofollow everything? leave all links the same, nofollow anyone not in #b-a? which would be best
mircea_popescu: whether it is or it isn;t, people on the internet don't spend much time to reach a conclusion
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't really go that far. let them be, as long as they're worth linking they're worth linking.
mircea_popescu: it's just, there's the world wide web, whioch is a collection of text, and then there's the paypal-blergh, which is a collection of bs. linking to a blog/webpage is different from linking to an online shop
mircea_popescu: cazalla and fwiw, i see no problem promoting the ravi guy, if he makes a sale or two out of the feature even better, he's ok. but generally speaking.
cazalla: righto, i'll just dump anything that might be perceived as an aff link
cazalla: just so it's clear though, i have no intention of inserting aff codes to skim
mircea_popescu: that could be a legitimate revenue source for qntra, if it grows up a little.
mircea_popescu: not, obviously, publish for the links. but, plenty of people in the speaking business have books they're trying to push, it'll be pretty hard to keep them out as the site grows.
mircea_popescu: so a site acct may be the least evil solution to a dilemma. not much of a consideration until it's actually big.
cazalla: i'd rather just point the reader to the author's website and they can go from there than bother with amazon affill
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: If you have access to a law library the law librarians usually have JD's and may have some tricks from school. Otherwise it is a grind.
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mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 how are you proceeding anyway ? which keys are you reading ?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: my understanding of the digest system is shallow, and i've been hesitant to do any serious filtering in the event i miss something <<< in computers generally, understood as the php-machine (ie, text processing, the actual porn that drove early computing), this approach has proven flawed. it is more effectual and more efficient to make a set of filters that delivers *something* and then make more passes with
mircea_popescu: better filters. a braindamaged 1950s version of agile, if you wish.
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2014 03:53:20; mircea_popescu: the reveal, late oct/early november
mircea_popescu: decimation: lois lerner was 'targeted' << interesting how meta that country is getting. so, sane people worry about being struck, usians worry about being "targeted" because it may stand for being struck ?
mircea_popescu: what's next ? cuz once started the meta train never ends.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: anyone ever heard of people buying fkn rattlesnakes from silk road type sites before? << yes, actually, i knew a derp raising pot and poisonous reptiles in romania. fortunately he had no idea what the web is, but otherwise, exactly what lanky ragaddy hair hippy you'd expect for the role.
assbot: Asylum, Chapter One pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: The Cargo Cultist, a Dialogue | Bingo Blog
BingoBoingo: He just kind of derps and wants to be famous
RagnarDanneskjol: i just got to the third chapter. rather interesting, nice atmosphere. can see a decent screenplay in there
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mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol yeah, it was optioned at some point but it never came to anything.
RagnarDanneskjol: nice. I'll point it to some hollywood guys I know, might have legs
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it expired by now anyway, it was a 2004 run. so go right ahead.
mircea_popescu: so cash went "On a Sunday morning sidewalk, I'm wishing, Lord, that I was stoned. 'Cause there's something in a Sunday that makes the body feel alone. And there's nothing short a' dying that's half as lonesome as the sound of the sleeping city sidewalk and Sunday morning coming down."
mircea_popescu: obviously about mobile or whatever other repugnant old dixie hellhole he normally inhabited
mircea_popescu: but i tell you he coulda said it about buenos aires, comuna 1 just as well
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mircea_popescu: cazalla "wherein transactions may may be credited for amounts far greater than the actual amount"
mircea_popescu: o look at that shit! "A network-wide weakness in how both Ripple and Stellar communicated transactions was exploited by an unknown third-party to to deposit false IOUs through Ripple/Stellar"
assbot: RIPple, the definitive discussion. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: mp : "Fatal congenital defect #1. Ripple requires any participant to trust other participants blindly." ; derps "oh mp you don't understand how it works!11"
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assbot: Virtual Currency Trading Wars: Bitcoin Versus Ripple XRP
mircea_popescu: "After 30+ hours of research and numerous meetings on the topic, we finally feel we have a strong understanding of Ripple and its place in the financial world versus Bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: apparently, 30+ hours of research and "numerous meetings" are not sufficient grounding for an informed opinion.
BingoBoingo: In the long run it seems qntra is going to end up reporting on a lot of Trilema predictions being realized
mircea_popescu: i guess the original lulz, "3 years' experience" has meanwhile morphed into "30+ hours' research" ? what's next ?
mircea_popescu: "Jaron Lukasiewicz is the CEO and Founder of Coinsetter, a New York City-based company that offers a high performance ECN trading platform and exchange for bitcoin."
RagnarDanneskjol: I know him, nice kid - still reefuses to see the light, been trying to get him on WoT for years... i recall mpoepr also had a nice exchange with him on the forum years back when he announced coinsetter
mircea_popescu: i mean they don't get it, because at 29 it seems like it's forever.
mircea_popescu: i know numerous such wrecks, trying to make ends meet at 40something, after having run exactly on those premises, "too much opm, too little time to think" a decade or two ago
mircea_popescu: generally it's not understood that money is a burden, not a boon, and this current child porn cultural trend (i don't just mean squirreling away pictures of 12 yo girls split open, i mean the actual trend, a widespread and cvasi universal obsession with youths) is mixing the worst ingredients : child-hydrazine with money-methanol (it WILL make you blind, if you drink it!)
mircea_popescu: so far all that's coming out of this recipe are wrecks.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is the deeper meh fuck it, ima go write an article.
gabriel_laddel: I was in the DFJ offices (Draper Fisher Jurvetson, VC firm) at one point and they had the big stop sign with the lettering "DON'T THINK" "DO". this from the same people who invested in d-wave. idiots. and people wonder why everything is breaking / broken. Don
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2013 19:19:40; asciilifeform: well, eventually all the coin will be in the hands of people with brains.
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assbot: But first, let me take the worlds longest selfie (Video) : theCHIVE
RagnarDanneskjol: aside from cringeworthy derpish content, the c-setter *company* blog actually has spammy ad links hiding in 'You may also like:' posts - wow, that's a first
BingoBoingo: Yeah, not very pro given their professed aims
thickasthieves: i have to agree with cazalla that putting aff links is crap
thickasthieves: i might also suggest qntra have a news/press release/leaks solicitation area
BingoBoingo: Well it is what powers WP stats we had before quantcast. Not a cacheing plugin.
BingoBoingo: but thickasthieves is it loading faster for you?
thickasthieves: is get This Webpage is not available for a while, then it eventually loads
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla thickasthieves is having connectivity issues with the qntra
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thickasthieves: fwiw tablet beahaves similarly, except it just handgs instead of showing error page
BingoBoingo: quantcast's tracking pixel is slow. Dunno why you browser wouldn't render your page over that though
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kakobrekla: >Bitcoin deposits may take up to 120 minutes to process.
thickasthieves: haha i see your little smiley face, but the problem is still showing
assbot: U.S. and U.K. Plan Banking War Game to Test Crisis Defenses - Bloomberg
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Does qntra load better for you nao?
BingoBoingo: <thickasthieves> haha i see your little smiley face, but the problem is still showing < smiley is WP/jetpack
thickasthieves: bingoboingo, nope, i can also add that it seems like it might only happen on the 2nd thing i click on
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel theyre all like that, finance's been taken over by aluminum siding salesmen in the us.
mircea_popescu: which is what osama wanted, actually. that was the fucking point of killing most of the financial minds over there : they'd be irreplaceable, for one thing,
mircea_popescu: but what;'s much worse : they WILL be replaced. ruining things forever.
mircea_popescu: cleannest surgical strike in the history of surgical strike, guy took out a country the size of a continent in one evening.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather see aff links put deliberately than allowing random derps to send their "press releases". it'll turn it into a trade mag, which is bad.
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i'd rather see aff links put deliberately than allowing random derps to send their "press releases". it'll turn it into a trade mag, which is bad. << I'm thinking more a known slush pile, but I guess the contact page already offers that function
mircea_popescu: i guess thickasthieves has a point, how's that different from someone being an author. it all boils down to sending stuff to cazalla see if he approves it.
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assbot: Money, fucking and lying pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Want to give it another go?
kakobrekla: >Open a ticket to unblock port 25. I got a response within an hour saying that port 25 is unblocked and they've sent me a link for some anti-spam policy. No other questions asked. You have to pay $5 per each spam email you send, but if your server was hacked, you are not responsible.
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thickasthieves: just tested on firefox via cellular connection, no issues
thickasthieves: bingoboingo if you need anything else from me to test pm, i'm polluting the chan :)
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kakobrekla: RagnarDanneskjol how does kicking help, it will still be online
RagnarDanneskjol: mmm - thought that would throw it off alltogether, guess not. will have to do it the hard way
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kakobrekla: at least its not using x86 it seems, hehe
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mthreat: yeah they go to the shows, etc
mircea_popescu: Cadet Clevinger was court-martialed for breaking ranks while in formation, felonious assault, indiscriminate behavior, mopery, high treason, provoking, being a smart-guy, listening to classical music, and so on.
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mthreat: mopery? i'll have to google that
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xanthyos: 133757 <+indiancandy1> cnt eat 2 much#
xanthyos: 133817 <+mircea_popescu> so eat some letters then!
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thickasthieves: xanthyos, it's just sposed to look like her, clickbait
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cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla "wherein transactions may may be credited for amounts far greater than the actual amount" BingoBoingo posts his own articles and it's difficult to play editor while zzz
cazalla: <BingoBoingo> thickasthieves is having connectivity issues with the qntra <<< tat mentioned it before but seems to be the only one experiencing it, it loads fine here so not sure what i can do
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yeah, thought it was just a TaT issue
cazalla: thickasthieves: i might also suggest qntra have a news/press release/leaks solicitation area <<< a good idea for the future, i don't think we have enough authority that people will come to us yet but in time they will, hopefully
cazalla: mircea_popescu: i'd rather see aff links put deliberately than allowing random derps to send their "press releases". it'll turn it into a trade mag, which is bad. <<< it might result in good stories, failing that, scammers out themselves, win win
xanthyos: using the public log to declare now before anyone can steal my idea that i am modifying the amphibious bike design to have parallel water screws instead of a loud splashy paddle for its propeller
xanthyos: need to contact grant imahara of mythbusters to build me a prototype
xanthyos: and broad "wings" so that the bike and rider's weight can be displaced in water with minimal sinkage
kakobrekla: when i was a kid i got to know the real inventor of the water scooter (his prototype was stolen and replicated). anyway, i did get to ride his underwater bike prototype.
jurov: is the rider exposed to water?
wyrdmantis: bitcoin core is the only way to have a full node on my computer?
assbot: Setting up a Debian-based Bitcoin node | pankkake
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 371.92, Best ask: 373.99, Bid-ask spread: 2.07000, Last trade: 371.92, 24 hour volume: 12790.39103437, 24 hour low: 354.71, 24 hour high: 378.33, 24 hour vwap: 364.171867667
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 36597298660.0 based on data since last change | 36214892300.9 based on data for last three days
xanthyos: wyrdmantis: the base has to be wide enough to displace the rider and bike's weights in water but narrow enough to be conveniently transported
xanthyos: this would work on all bike types
xanthyos: the rear wheel connects to 2 pontoon-ish waterscrews that are fully underwater so the propulsion is silent
xanthyos: and the steering column controlls the rudder
xanthyos: water riders are responsible for their own life vests just as road riders are responsible for helmets
xanthyos: let the legal team handle that
chetty: haha money laundering takes a new twist, I been hearing folks talk about how to sterilize cash
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: i haven't been using the west key system to search. instead, i've been filtering for proceedings involving USG and then pruning for terms like wiretap, warrant, email, hard drive, paperwork, and suppression of evidence.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00074146 = 20.2048 BTC [+]
mats_cd03: then reverting the filter and reading every remaining case to avoid missing anything.
ben_vulpes: <xanthyos> any open source CAD apps? << pretend to be a student, download Inventor
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves> fake it til you make it, what kinda amurican are you? << he's an aussie lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00073987 = 10.6541 BTC [-]
thickasthieves: i really dont see soliciting leads and leaks as something related to the size of your britches anyway
thickasthieves: it's more indicative of what kinda place youre running
thickasthieves: if coinbiz.io raises $1b in venture capital and releases a press release informing the world, some bitcoiners might be interested in that as a news development, no?
mircea_popescu: i guess what you mean is that the better pr is built atop of news
thestringpuller: what's the point of a bitcoin company raising fiat capital if they can't use it to purchase btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00073873 = 6.1315 BTC [-]
Adlai: chetty: what does "sterilize cash" mean?
Adlai: autodesk are actually moving towards open source for their newer products, although since it's a bottom-up effort, existing products will remain closed source indefinitely
Adlai worked there for a while
xanthyos: i found a warez copy of autocad for a teacher of a class i took in high school, and he said that i'd get an A no matter what
xanthyos: in retrospect, what an irresponsible teacher. i learned nothing about cad use and played the hamster dance all semester long
Adlai wasn't aware that the hamster dance could be anything but danced
xanthyos: played a section of the opening music to disney's animated robin hood
assbot: Original Hampster Dance from 1997 (hamsters dancing online) - YouTube
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 380.07, Best ask: 381.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 382.22, 24 hour volume: 13450.59317102, 24 hour low: 354.71, 24 hour high: 383.01, 24 hour vwap: 365.375474836
chetty: <Adlai> chetty: what does "sterilize cash" mean?//people are getting worried about 'germs' getting passed around on money
bounce: <mircea_popescu> i have no idea what their codes look like, i go by "is there anything past the address". in this case www.amazon.in/God-Gamer-Ravi-Subramanian-ebook/dp/B00MY74DJG << makes me think that's an affiliate code. << the only thing that actually matters is the item code; what looks like the title is replacable fluff.
Adlai: one of my earliest memories of being factually incorrect is being informed that cash is the dirtiest object i touch on a daily basis
Adlai thought it was batteries or something. dunno, this was in preschool.
Adlai: expired batteries are pretty gross though. i'd rather throw out an appliance than clean a bay that held expired batteries.
xanthyos: Zechariah 9:9New King James Version (NKJV)
xanthyos: 9 .Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
xanthyos: Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem!
xanthyos: Behold, your King is coming to you;
xanthyos: He is just and having salvation,
xanthyos: i meant for it to all paste as one line
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00073898 = 7.7223 BTC [+]
Adlai: that still doesn't answer bounce's question :P
Adlai: any of you watching the th1btc drama?
Adlai: background: bitfinex created a cloud mining contract for a fixed time period, so its value *should* continuously decrease... but by making it possible to trade and loan as margin, they've created quite a bizarre asset which has everybody in the forums and reddit screaming about manipulation now
assbot: Logged on 31-03-2014 20:40:50; mircea_popescu: artifexd i dunno, it's been illo tempore policy that people accidentally spamming or otherwise unintentionally misbehave contribute to the port fund
Adlai: my theory is there's no single manipulator. traders want to short, shorting requires borrowing the contract, borrowing requires lenders, lending requires buying. so trader A has to buy before trader B can short.
Adlai: rather than shorts causing a sell today and a buy later, shorts here require a buy then sell, and later on a buy followed by a sell of the lender cashing out
Adlai had chocolate for dinner, shit
Adlai: chocolate will be the vector for the globola outbreak
kakobrekla: no i mean <Adlai> any of you watching the th1btc drama?
Adlai: oh, multiple threads full of lemmings crying manipulation. i hadn't paid this thing any attention until i saw this enough times to be sick of it.
Adlai: (second this refers to cries of manipulation)
assbot: TH1 Contract Manipulation - Do not short : BitcoinMarkets
assbot: TH1BTC Speculation Thread - Bitfinex Cloud Mining Contract
Adlai: right, they're busy making money off telepathically preempting The Manipulator
Adlai is just eyeing that spread
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 380.71, Best ask: 380.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 381.0, 24 hour volume: 13751.74284801, 24 hour low: 354.71, 24 hour high: 383.6, 24 hour vwap: 366.149981911
nubbins`: Adlai, chetty uh.. sterilization has a specific meaning in economics (not sure if you're having a lel or not)
xanthyos: will there be demand for blood diamonds if there's any chance it was ebola-contaminated blood?
Adlai: nubbins`: sometimes context-free lels are the best?
nubbins`: thestringpuller :| okay, you can have mine
thestringpuller: I'll just take refund/credit on future project or something
Adlai: there will always be demand for blood diamonds, you can't put the Magnificent Bitcoin Gem on a ring
assbot: ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4
gribble: Error: "getturst" is not a valid command.
ninjashogun: they're just trollish ratings. The positive rating isn't merited either.
ninjashogun: None of those are based on trades or knowing me in real life.
bounce: how does that relate to you hanging out here, where those ratings come from?
ninjashogun: I mean they give the impression of being based on something (transactions with me etc).
Apocalyptic: thestringpuller, you don't know the fellow ?
kakobrekla: verbal is actually the wrong word here. hehe
bounce: hot text on text action
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: i only rate people when I do extensive interactions with them. or interactions highly dependent on trust.
Apocalyptic: i didn't ask about rating, but he made some voice here a while ago
ben_vulpes: damn ninjashogun you can't even be arsed to use the convenient logsearch?
mircea_popescu: Adlai it's pretty well established that bitfinex are derpy already.
thestringpuller: i dunno where we've discussed it to be honest. so the log search is not helping me. i'm also an idiot with archival retrieval sooo
Adlai: beautifully understated
ninjashogun: No, those log searches don't show anything. But at least I personally think it's big news. This is from sept 30th.
Adlai: LOL i didn't realize one could "welsh" on a bet, that's a new slur to me
kakobrekla: and to add more to the logs, today from Darko (kraken) : The documentation on the partial payment feature is very poor. Even the Stellar Development Foundation only learned of the issue this past week. Even though there was an update to the Stellar code base to remove the feature, we are nonetheless taking the Stellar gateway offline until we can fully evaluate everything ourselves. Overly cautious perhaps, but we'd rather be overly
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla they all got raped because they thought themselves smarter than the b-a crowd.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2014 19:15:23; kakobrekla: kraken will trade you dead grandmother if the logo is nice.
thestringpuller: interesting idea: way to tie entities to Web of Trust identities?
kakobrekla: well since you worked with their api Adlai , you prolly noticed their rate limits
kakobrekla: prolly the most retarded setup on this planet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00073892 = 28.3006 BTC [-] {2}
Adlai: that doesn't make them derpy, just drastically lacking in infrastructure... which is a little derpy for an exchange
kakobrekla: that is just one of the 1000 and 1 fails of kraken
Apocalyptic: Adlai, you're familiar with the "same deposit address to multiple customers" issue ?
kakobrekla: as for the infrastructure - i am quite confident they have less than half of what they had a year ago
Adlai: Apocalyptic: link?
Apocalyptic: it's on btctalk, I'm confident you can find it yourself
Adlai: a link is a link even when it's not a url :)
mircea_popescu: Adlai it's how they squandered their original trust capital
Adlai doesn't understand why they haven't turned on the margin engine
Adlai: it seems as though all the software is in place, and this is obviously a feature that the average trader loves to use
Adlai: (otherwise why would people still be on bitfinex)
kakobrekla: afaik bfx is loose on dox if you dont withdraw fiat
Adlai: another beautiful understatement
Adlai: they don't know anything about me other than an email address
kakobrekla: i dont know the details - not registered.
assbot: S.QNTR last @0.00000000
cazalla: and this is what i link to from qntra?
mircea_popescu: also pete_dushenski, mike_c, RagnarDanneskjol, other interested parties ^
Adlai: qntra.net seems to have some ssl issue?
Adlai: well, the certificate is issued for a different domain name
kakobrekla: also is there a point in ssl if its optional
Apocalyptic: <Adlai> qntra.net seems to have some ssl issue? // just got the error
cazalla: i didn't reg an ssl cert, the domain was dropped by qntra.com at some point i believe
Apocalyptic: the ssl cert provided seems to be for *.battlequest.com
mircea_popescu: it doesn't actually add any security, costs money and adds complexity.
cazalla: i never added it so how do i remove it
Apocalyptic: mircea, it at least adds security in the sense of preventing sniffing by some derps
Apocalyptic: I know, I thought your statement was general and not related to qntra
cazalla: i assume it'll go away once cert expires
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14189 @ 0.0007364 = 10.4488 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i suppose the user-friendliest solution would be to get a cheapo cert and then redirect it via mod_rewrite
dub: BREAKING: MPEx IPOs bitcoin drama. You'll Never Believe Wat Happens Next
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
mircea_popescu: who/what had that tagline ? "you won't believe what happens next"
cazalla: that youtube video from other week
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00073987 = 9.1744 BTC [+]
atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 185 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 30d-Vol: 170k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 198
mircea_popescu: ideally, by the time he's old enough to have a gun he has enough experience with peashooters to know better.
mircea_popescu: provided he's given peashooters as a kid and encouraged to shoot himself till he gets tired of it.
mircea_popescu: still, you gotta gimme something. don't use standard stuff, don't homebrew, what then ? wait for god ?
Adlai: i've been seeing "you won't believe what happens next" since the first banner ads
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00073936 = 14.6763 BTC [-]