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mod6: %ob
atcbot: 7k@266 99k@255 30k@225 | 4k@185 70k@180 100k@175
mod6: %v
atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 185 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 30d-Vol: 179k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 198
xanthyos: here is a btc-appropriate twitter header picture http://gyazo.com/08b6287de0ba69c0687c38a659d26c9a
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/gamer-currency-hyper-goes-where-bitcoin-cant-into-the-bin/
bounce: http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/10/10/brandson_backs_blockchain_bitcoin_bandwagon/
assbot: Beardie Branson backs Blockchain's Bitcoin bandwagon The Register
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: mike_c am i not seeing something or do you not mean http://qntra.net/2014/10/andreas-antonopolous-testifies-before-canadian-senate-committee/ ? seems perfectly ok formatted
assbot: Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian Senate Committee
mike_c: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ulbricht-attorneys-file-response-to-government/
assbot: Ulbricht Attorneys File Response to Government
mike_c: text is broken up
mircea_popescu: ah ah
ben_vulpes: cazalla: considered emailing the defense for the unadulterated text?
cazalla: I think that's more BingoBoingo's department, I don't claim to grasp much of it tbh
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea, considering they probably want exposure. dubious if it's worth the hassle.
ben_vulpes: more hassle on their end, an email on BingoBoingo's.
mircea_popescu: tru
thickasthieves: they want exposure
thickasthieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 364.26, Best ask: 365.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 365.0, 24 hour volume: 21725.59361661, 24 hour low: 351.1, 24 hour high: 380.08, 24 hour vwap: 362.056811116
thickasthieves: time for the trip to 400-440
kakobrekla: scam
thickasthieves: ponzi
devthedev: mircea_popescu: I liked your analogy in regards to the Internet Watch Foundation claim.
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/strange-in-the-street/
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptosnews-join-the-shenanigans-at-startjoin/
cazalla: with that, lunch
xanthyos: 212926 <@aspirant> i dont like bitcoin
xanthyos: 212931 <@aspirant> i know almost nothing about it
mircea_popescu: !up PinkPosixPXE
mircea_popescu: xanthyos not a crime
assbot: zeeeando0oO +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: devthedev_ cool!
mircea_popescu: !up zeeeando0oO
zeeeando0oO: thank you
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: who're you ?
zeeeando0oO: I am xiando.
zeeeando0oO: I am not important.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell princessnell http://www.8btc.com/bitcoin-is-great-but-it-wont-fix-our-monkey-brains check it out, you're big in china ☟︎
assbot: |
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ok, so what can we do for you, xiando that is not important ?
zeeeando0oO: Share secrets. though I already get those by idling. Could I just idle and not be important and talk if I do find anything interesting to share?
mircea_popescu: yup.
mircea_popescu: most people ctually do exactly that.
mircea_popescu: ;;ident zeeeando0oO
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'zeeeando0oO', with hostmask 'zeeeando0oO!xiando@irc.xiando.org', is identified as user 'xiando', with GPG key id 3414891E7C2FFCAA, key fingerprint 3DD672BBF97B3C48627AA9DE3414891E7C2FFCAA, and bitcoin address 1Jk4tuV82rUB31s6PUshoMHAJ1fKt5pwjv
mircea_popescu: ;;rate zeeeando0 1 http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7
assbot: [14:13] <xiando> I'm surprised you actually answer me for once. I did not exp - Pastebin.com
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate xiando 1 http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7
assbot: [14:13] <xiando> I'm surprised you actually answer me for once. I did not exp - Pastebin.com
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user xiando has been recorded.
ben_vulpes: pahahaha what the hell
mircea_popescu: old stories.
xiando: ;;ident xiando
gribble: Nick 'xiando', with hostmask 'xiando!xiando@irc.xiando.org', is identified as user 'xiando', with GPG key id 3414891E7C2FFCAA, key fingerprint 3DD672BBF97B3C48627AA9DE3414891E7C2FFCAA, and bitcoin address 1Jk4tuV82rUB31s6PUshoMHAJ1fKt5pwjv
mircea_popescu: xiando you can self-voice by pming assbot !up
xiando: it keeps telling me I need a better WOT rating
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot xiando
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask xiando!xiando@irc.xiando.org. Trust relationship from user assbot to user xiando: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=xiando | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xiando | Rated since: Mon Feb 18 08:34:39 2013
ben_vulpes: it'll percolate through the mud
mircea_popescu: xiando i just fixed that above. there's a delay, bout an hour or so, cause multiple cache layers.
kakobrekla: if gribble sees it, assbot will too.
xiando: Thank you.
kakobrekla: and you really tried just once, before the rating, so wtf.
kakobrekla: anyway imma go. later
mircea_popescu: anyway, not that anything karpeles [ever] said can be taken at face value, but admire the difference between mtgox and bitbet when it comes to the position of the usg. perfectly symmetrical, karpeles is "up to the usg" ; usg is up to bitbet.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/mtgox-freeze-money-absurd-answers-of-support-student-desperate-and-out-option.95502/#post-1613198 << back in the day, before timisoara conference, last weeks of mtgox.
assbot: Mtgox freeze money, Absurd answers of support, student desperate and out option | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByxGzdECIAIHbN7.jpg:large << check out the gall of the aussie bureaucracy
mircea_popescu: "this letter can not be used for any purpose". how fucking dare they ?
thickasthieves: you are not allowed to read what i say
thickasthieves: stop
mircea_popescu: http://identi.fi/id/account/mircea_popescu@bitcoin-otc.com << check out the scrappers ? ☟︎
assbot: Identifi - mircea_popescu
thickasthieves: such css
mircea_popescu: o wait it's sirius' ?!
mircea_popescu: ;;ident sirius^
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
mircea_popescu: ;;gpg info sirius
gribble: No such user registered.
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: Anduck ?
thickasthieves: "Identifi is an address book application that stores its data in a distributed fashion on the computers of its users. The stored information is not owned or centrally administered by anyone."
mircea_popescu: fucking twitter "load stuff on scrolldown"
thickasthieves: bandwidth strikes again
mircea_popescu: so apparently it actually is sirius' thing
thickasthieves: how i sit decentralized? you just compile and dl latest copy of db?
thickasthieves: with every user being a node or sumth
mircea_popescu: basically the original creator of tardstalk surreptitiously forked otc
thickasthieves: looks like it supports otc, rather than just scraping data, no?
mircea_popescu: no.
thickasthieves: a future of wots would need to chain wots together right?
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there.
assbot: Rating Details for User 'anduck'
thickasthieves: each wot having a trust rating with another wot
mircea_popescu: but that's not what's happening here.
thickasthieves: hrm
mircea_popescu: basically, guy imported the otc wot as-is, is not talking back to it, and is allowing users on his system to log in through shit like facebook, and make ratings.
mircea_popescu: so it's either an attack or a degenerate reimplementation. one or the other.
mircea_popescu: course nobody is answering in their otherwise barren support chan.
thickasthieves: i dont think the facebook part is a crime
mircea_popescu: http://identi.fi/id/account/theymos%40bitcoin-otc.com << look at that.
mircea_popescu: depends in what sense. i wouldn't trust someone because htey're "facebook logged in"
thickasthieves: me either
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=theymos&sign=ANY&type=RECV << as compared.
assbot: Rating Details for User 'theymos'
thickasthieves: i'd still trust them less for logging in via facebook even if auth'd
mircea_popescu: basically prima facie the scammers made themselves a bootstrap fake wot.
thickasthieves: site is hanging now
thickasthieves: apparently this chan ddos'd it
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: well it went into the logs is the problem
mircea_popescu: don't tell the seo spammers, but google indexes stuff from the logs in ~1 minute.
thickasthieves: heh
thickasthieves: well we can protect from seo spammers pretty easily
The20YearIRCloud: protect what?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i wonder if the long term effect will be to help idiots get familiar with the wot (positive) or to get idiots to think they;re part of the wot on a facebook login based bootstrap website (negative)
mircea_popescu: provided of course it survives long enough to matter.
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust luke-jr theymos
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user luke-jr to user theymos: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=luke-jr&dest=theymos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=theymos | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:36:30 2010
mircea_popescu: https://login.persona.org/sign_in << holy shit, mozila persona ?!
assbot: Mozilla Persona: A Better Way to Sign In
mircea_popescu: this thing is evil
thickasthieves: requires firefox? (errors for me)
mircea_popescu: it's this mozilla evil. sort-of like the darkemail or w/e that was
thickasthieves: meh
thickasthieves: no one will ever use it
thickasthieves: i cant think why anyone ever would
mircea_popescu: it was launched in 2011 and abandoned in 2012, but w/e
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves kinda what irks me. so obviously wasted effort, and a lot of it. i don't think the people in question are actually nefariously motivated, but you'd think old timers'd have more sense. anyway.
thickasthieves: sometimes these things come back to life as a body part of something decent
thickasthieves: like maybe that head engineer gets into bitcoin and makes some wot stuff
thickasthieves turns down the hope.
mircea_popescu: i was talking about the identi.fi thing again
mircea_popescu: aaanyway.
mircea_popescu: ruby rots brains, it's obvious by now.
thickasthieves: i never liked the name
thickasthieves: which is obv what's important
thickasthieves: qntra seems laggy
thickasthieves: it does this thing where pages dont load but then they do
cazalla: seems ok here
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitfilm-festivals-fundraiser-coins-now-available-to-supporters/
ben_vulpes: i live in a weird parallel universe
ben_vulpes: today one of the contractors gave *me* a joint
ben_vulpes: "what'd i do to deserve this?!"
ben_vulpes: "nothing, you're just awesome."
ben_vulpes inspects for lethal toxins
cazalla: not much news around today
mircea_popescu: not bad ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: we implemented continuous bookkeeping this week
ben_vulpes: realtime resource tracking across all projects
ben_vulpes: should save 4 days per month of collating and tabulating timesheets into invoices for clients.
ben_vulpes: csv export -> payroll company uploader
ben_vulpes: "don't keep your timesheet up to date? no paychecks."
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnKuIbKauXk&list=UU4zzTEL5tuIgGMvzjk1Ozbg
assbot: Hinged negatively curved surfaces - YouTube
thickasthieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iwt5q/in_light_of_the_gentoo_linux_bitcoin_client/
assbot: In light of the Gentoo Linux Bitcoin client kerfluffle, I just created a Docker container to quickly & easily build the latest version of bitcoind from source. : Bitcoin
thickasthieves: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/10/10/dell-becomes-bitcoin-mining-data-center-provider/
assbot: Dell Becomes Bitcoin Mining Data Center Provider | Data Center Knowledge
mircea_popescu: cazalla ^ :D you were complaining ?
cazalla: just as people know i'm not recycling shared links here for their consumption
mircea_popescu: o wow look at that. people using go for something ?!
ben_vulpes: docker rules
mircea_popescu tries to remember who Allen Oh is
mircea_popescu: !s bitcoinasichosting
assbot: 0 results for 'bitcoinasichosting' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoinasichosting
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves apparently this is 2013 ? https://bitcointa.lk/threads/hosting-asic-miner-hosting-insured-opened-2nd-room.139109/
assbot: [HOSTING] ASIC Miner Hosting (Insured) - Opened 2nd Room | Bitcointa.lk
thickasthieves: i dunno
mircea_popescu: http://bitfundltd.com/ that dalkore dude. such lulz.
assbot: Welcome to Bitfund Ltd | Bitcoin – Investments – Mining Management – Consulting
mircea_popescu: i knew i knew who he is.
mircea_popescu: wp total cache 8.5.2 (compatible with wp 2.9) ? 250kb. wp total cache 9.4 (compatible with wp 4) ? 1.8mb.
mircea_popescu: seriously ? why.
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/dell-sells-excess-capacity-to-bitcoin-asic-miner/
cazalla: that one is an exclusive
thickasthieves: thinking out loud, would it make sense to include ticker symbol for news about public companies?
thickasthieves: looks weird with "Dell" being the only attribute
thickasthieves: is it Michael Dell?
thickasthieves: etc
thickasthieves: or to say Dell, LLC or whatever
cazalla: yes, also makes sense to begin citing sources and press releases from company websites i think
mats_cd03: minor note dell isn't public anymore
thickasthieves: word!
thickasthieves: qntra never told me, so i didnt kno
cazalla: qntra assumed the reader knew
thickasthieves: omg i have to know things?
thickasthieves: scam
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> yes, also makes sense to begin citing sources and press releases from company websites i think << yes.
mircea_popescu: http://midtownmiscreant.blogspot.com.ar/ << check out annoyed person
assbot: Midtown Miscreant
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 36(Y):64(N) by coin, 35(Y):65(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.9659 BTC. Current weight: 88,524.
Vexual: cazalla: not much news around today > piff
mircea_popescu: cazalla https://www.google.com/search?q=Arthur+Budovsk&complete=0&gws_rd=ssl << it's budowsky
assbot: Arthur Budovsk - Google Search
Vexual: (incredulous)
Vexual: hello Mr Popescue
mircea_popescu: hey & bye!
Vexual: bye
cazalla: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo posted the article, he might have a reason for dropping the y but i've changed it and will ask
Vexual: the a in announced isn't hyperlinky either
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/liberty-reserve-founder-arthur-budovsky-extradited/
cazalla: well, that is not ideal to have it broadcast here again
fluffypony: The url changed
fluffypony: So it's viewed as a new article
Vexual: sux when you fuck up the headline
cazalla: i didn't fuck it up, was done while i was sleeping
Vexual: collective you
Vexual: youse perhaps :)
Vexual: better that than some rude placeholder that goes to the printers
Vexual: didnt the afr print some front page fuckup wthat was on sale in perth for a few hours recently?
Vexual: ;;google world is fuct
gribble: Newspaper Has An Absolute Shocker - BuzzFeed: <http://www.buzzfeed.com/simoncrerar/newspaper-prints-world-is-fukt-on-front-page>; F.U.C.T. - "Infectious World" - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIFpDqRuws>; F.U.C.T. - Infectious World - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Za7dkyCC4E>
cazalla: nfi Vexual
Vexual: well that first link defines a resounding yes, didn't hurt em none
cazalla: because noone buys fucking newspaper
Vexual: oh yeah
Vexual: unless it's got something good in it
Anduck: 06:31:02 >+mircea_pop| http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there. << that's because the 'anduck' there isn't same anduck account. (it's me though)
assbot: Rating Details for User 'anduck'
Vexual: ooh philosophy
Vexual: i'd rate you -1 because im jealous of your nick, but with philosophy like that it evens out
Vexual: qntra does opinion on saturdays huh?
cazalla: !s qntra ezy
assbot: 0 results for 'qntra ezy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=qntra+ezy
cazalla: !s qntra bitcoinezy
assbot: 0 results for 'qntra bitcoinezy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=qntra+bitcoinezy
cazalla: god fuck it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00073834 = 14.3238 BTC [-]
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNoBstt8uYM
assbot: Sacher Musak - "Gorba The Chief" - YouTube
Vexual can dance to this
punkman: you'll need vodka
punkman can't even remember last time he had vodka
Vexual: i can get some potatoes to the fermenter if you want
Vexual: nubbins could do the labels and deedbot does the rest?
punkman: "Vexual Vodka"... totally works!
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD3tWgZAav8
assbot: Baloji with Konono N1 - "Karibu Ya Bintou" (English subtitles) - YouTube
Vexual: im sure theres a better name
Vexual: im watching without subtitles, coz thats how i roll
Vexual: i notice the difference between an uppercut in kinshasa and paris
Vexual: whereas in soviet union, uppercuts notice you
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LqBw6FNNng
thestringpuller: ls
Vexual: thestringpuller.txt
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWIKQMBBTtk
thestringpuller: What is this?
thestringpuller: lol
Vexual: jamacia preparations
thestringpuller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWIKQMBBTtk << possible qntra story about how not to run a chartiy?
assbot: Gotye - State Of The Art - official video - YouTube
thestringpuller: oops
thestringpuller: http://www.coindesk.com/seans-outpost-charity-finances-hit-drop-bitcoin-price/ ***
assbot: Sean's Outpost Charity Finances Hit By Drop in Bitcoin Price
thestringpuller: Vexual: you ever gonna be in WoT?
thestringpuller: You enigma guy huh?
Vexual: Mr MuXne be my wot alter ego
Vexual: ;;idenitfy Vexual
gribble: Error: "idenitfy" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
Vexual: ;;ident
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'Vexual', with hostmask 'Vexual!~amnesia@gateway/tor-sasl/vexual', is identified as user 'muXne', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Badmofonny75kX7FrVHpCpNsRxMrmuXne
thestringpuller: LOL
thestringpuller: random bloke: "which address is yours?" Vexual: "The one that says bad muthafucka on it."
Vexual: i don't accept encypted coms as a metter of course
thestringpuller: it's just a great pulp fiction reference
Vexual: great film
thestringpuller: even if unintended
thestringpuller: neat song btw in the youtube video
thestringpuller: was a good intermission in my TV binging
Vexual: perfect
thestringpuller: been hacking away at this WoT Visualizer
Vexual: in between sex and the city?
thestringpuller: no. fall tv on hulu
thestringpuller: but close
thestringpuller: SVU
Vexual: americano?
punkman: I tried to watch something on hulu few weeks ago, the damn ads wouldn't buffer so there was like 15 min of stuttering video for 20 min of content
Vexual: yet you persisted?
thestringpuller: ah. the ads are the worst
thestringpuller: but tvtorrents.com has become unreliable
thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/TVTorrents_com
assbot: TVTorrents.com (@TVTorrents_com) |
Vexual: google does it too, more expensive ads load quicker, cheap advertisers teach their customers rage
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: I'm curious as to the stack you're using for the visualizer. Care to divulge details?
thestringpuller: just d3
punkman: maybe relevant to your interests http://graphlab.com/index.html
assbot: GraphLab | Unleash Data Science
thestringpuller: http://bl.ocks.org/d3noob/5141278 << it'll look like that at first
assbot: Basic Directional Force Layout Diagram
thestringpuller: then it'll get more functionality as people demand it etc.
thestringpuller: http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/1153292 I'm aiming to have differentiation in links as so here
assbot: Mobile Patent Suits
thestringpuller: D3 is tricky, I was introduced to it in a class in 2013 and still don't know what the hell I'm doing without experts helping me ~_~
Vexual: are you making a better datafox?
thestringpuller: datafox?
thestringpuller: ;;google datafox
gribble: DataFox: <http://www.datafox.co/>; Blog | DataFox | Structured insights make better decisions faster: <http://www.datafox.co/blog>; DataFox | CrunchBase: <http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/datafox>
gabriel_laddel: D3 is tricky like riding a broken bike is 'tricky'
punkman: heh " It's your personal cheat sheet for Wall Street-level analysis of Silicon Valley-style companies."
thestringpuller: gabriel_laddel: how so?
thestringpuller: what's speicifically broken as I wouldn't know
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: your client starts your visualization with the browser taking up 1/2 screen and resizes it. sure you're able to grab the relative location of all nodes and regenerate the whole graph to prevent it from having visual clipping errors, but UGH, fixing this requires CSS/HTML hackers. okay. someone has a library that handles this. cool. you install this library how? JS doesn't have a (standard) package
gabriel_laddel: manager. what if you want to fiddle with something in the package you've installed a (by definition) non-standard fashion? I hope you like grepping through sources, cause you're not gonna have M-. etc.
thestringpuller: wait what?
thestringpuller: i've never had this problem
gabriel_laddel: which one?
thestringpuller: clipping issues
gabriel_laddel: screens coming shortly.
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> mircea_popescu: I could swear the original DOJ Press release didn't have the 'y', but it looks like that has been updated too.
Vexual: ya gotta check that shit
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: step1: http://postimg.org/image/luob5tc0j/ step2: (visual clipping error) http://postimg.org/image/nxyqdhbtf/ the process of going from 1 to 2 is resizing browser from half to fullscreen, then dragging graph to previous clipping edge.
assbot: View image: step1
assbot: View image: step2
thestringpuller: that's never happened to me :P
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: I suppose if you're following the D3 example you provided it makes little difference as its fixed dimensions.
Vexual: i can't see postimg
thestringpuller: yea
thestringpuller: i'm not super advance d3 user yet man
thestringpuller: i'm learning this as I got
thestringpuller: for wotviz
Vexual: javascript catch 22
thestringpuller: ^lol
thestringpuller: okay smoke/vape break
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo did you see the story on Sean's Outpost yet?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: I'm weighting how to treat the issue of people depending on bitcoin for expenses find themselves poorer as news.
thestringpuller: Indeed. Just thought it was interesting because long ago mircea_popescu said not to tie economics and business operations together.
Vexual: bb: how many are there?
Vexual: a few very big and a few very small ?
cazalla: i saw that story but ignored it because by setting up a homeless sanctuary, this guy is gonna need donations forever
cazalla: i wonder if he would've done better putting off helping the homeless for a few years, sitting on teh coins and then starting his homeless zoo when they were worth more
thestringpuller: food banks survive entirely off donations
thestringpuller: and have paid employees
thestringpuller: but they are super efficient
thestringpuller: some can feed a family on 10 cents
thestringpuller: for an entire meal
punkman: cheaper to cook in bulk
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: where is this? sanityland?
Vexual: fuck no
punkman: oh wow Sean's Outpost only has 1.56 BTC left
cazalla: prob spent it all on drugs and booze
thestringpuller: punkman: it's cheapest to use alternative donation methods
cazalla: how else do you explain it's all gone if meals only cost 10c
Vexual: many men
thestringpuller: take items from free from stores like kroger and publix that they are going to throw out anyways
thestringpuller: food donations from food drives
gabriel_laddel: from wikipedia on San Francisco: "The city's homeless population has been estimated at 7,000 10,000 people ... The city spends $200 million a year on homelessness related programs."
thestringpuller: etc. etc. in sanity land you can effectively feed the homeless for much less than what sean's outpost is paying
cazalla: if they had any heart they'd be out stealing for a living
punkman: 1 BTC gets you almost a ton of rice
Vexual: no
cazalla: maybe they don't like rice but prime rib
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867645 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-10-2014 16:19:52; asciilifeform: afaik nobody actually cares how many pictures of ben franklin one can get for 1 btc. but if 1 btc buys, say, computer, or tractor, or half a year of food, etc.
punkman: so there ya go, 1 BTC = 3kg of rice per day for a year
Vexual: wait..
cazalla: please sir i want some more
punkman: http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=rice&months=60
assbot: Rice - Monthly Price - Commodity Prices - Price Charts, Data, and News - IndexMundi
Vexual: no shit
Vexual: how many men can survive of 1bc pa?
Vexual: how much rice does one need for assistance?
cazalla: dem niggers don't wanna eat no hoppin john Vexual
Vexual: if you're not getting a juice box and a museli bar i presume you seek other food
cazalla: ended up going the bottlo' btw
Vexual: i guessed
punkman: I leave gourmet leftovers by the recycling sometimes, usually gone in a few hours
thestringpuller: ^
Vexual: lol
punkman: Punkman's Outpost, done bitcoin plz
punkman: *donate
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3AG1W5T.txt )
thestringpuller: !b 5 ✂︎
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3crqpClPY
Vexual: 9 billion is alost enough
Vexual: 40m in greater tokyo
Vexual: most folks can't fathom these numbers
Vexual: ;;google hong kong population
gribble: Demographics of Hong Kong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Hong_Kong>; Hong Kong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong>; Hong Kong Fact Sheets - Population: <http://www.gov.hk/en/about/abouthk/factsheets/docs/population.pdf>
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaOXc7b2YJ4
Vexual: it's said nyc is one of the most efficient cities
Vexual: but thats a kinda food in shit out and whats the electricty bill look lik ekinda metric
BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT
assbot: dpaste: 32HWXTT
cazalla: that didn't take long
cazalla: why you but not me though
Vexual: his email?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Email came from WordPress itself
BingoBoingo: cazalla: No idea
cazalla: i'll check later if admin account had same, don't have access atm
Vexual: whaddays still out the front of the bodega?
cazalla: it'd be nice to borg writers from say coinfire
Vexual: ;;ud borg
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borg | They are "led" by the Borg Queen, who oversees all the operation of the Collective, but at one time, Jean-Luc Picard of the U.S.S. Enterprise was assimilated and ...
Vexual: ;;google coinfire
gribble: Coin Fire -: <http://coinfire.cf/>; Coin Fire Faucet: <http://coinfire.cf/faucet/>; overview for coinfire - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/user/coinfire>
cazalla: maybe you go pay him a visit and tell him to join Vexual
Vexual: who?
cazalla: i think his name is mike
Vexual: bb prolly tried to reset is own pw when me was pissed
Vexual: or some coindesk contributing kid did
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIRb__ZzExY
Vexual: "If you thin you are a state you prolly are a state"
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scctUFAoS7Q special K
BingoBoingo: Password reset request came in while I was sleeping.
thickasthieves: there is a decent plugin for setting up misc wordpress security, i think it's called ithemes now
thickasthieves: dunno if it's still any good
thickasthieves: let's you block IPs trying to log in, etc
cazalla: i don't think it's really a problem anyway
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ethereum-developer-to-insurers-consider-covering-bitcoin-risk/
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu done
gribble: The operation succeeded.
PeterL: I have a question about deedbot:
PeterL: Currently it posts the deed text and an address with a transaction at a certain time, is there a way to verify that these go together?
thickasthieves: i think deebot got haxed
PeterL: The spec says to generate an address from hashing the text, is there a way for other people to verify this?
thickasthieves: if i recall they are getting someone else to recode
PeterL: yes, but this is about the spec, not the particular code
thickasthieves: i know nothing of spec
thickasthieves: and i assume it's possible that may change with new version
PeterL: my idea: have the bot add a line of random characters at one end of the text, hash the text in a deterministic way to get a privkey
PeterL: move bitcoins to the address and then move themback out, then publish the text
PeterL: then anybody could hash the text, and see that the first instance of coins moing to the generated address was in that particular block
PeterL: I may be wrong, but I think that is different from what it is currently doing?
punkman: for existing deedbot, the whole bundle goes through sha256, then that hash is manipulated to create a public address
punkman: without creating a private key, so the funds are burned
PeterL: my way would let it stop burning funds?
PeterL: so right now you verify text by hashing directly from the text to an address?
punkman: yes
punkman: I rewrote it slightly different
PeterL: what will your changes do?
punkman: I take the hash of each deed, concatenate those to create the "bundle", then hash the bundle and make a private key out of that
PeterL: then do you retrieve the bitcoins sent?
punkman: maybe, or give people a chance to sweep them
PeterL: so it becomes a race to see who gets there first once the bundle is published?
BingoBoingo: http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/10/acgme/
assbot: ACGME to Drop Boards Testing in Favor of NFL-ESQUE Skills Combine - Medical Satire - GomerBlog
PeterL: Or are you counting on people not be greedy over a millibit?
punkman: 0.1 millibit
PeterL: yes, so something like a millibit a day if it is used frequently
PeterL: or a millibit a month if infrequently?
punkman: not that much eh
PeterL: new game, pennyrace: throw up an empty deed and race to get the tenth of a millibit it spits out
punkman: well it's gotta be a valid deed and you gotta be in assbot's trust
PeterL: aha, and if people spam deedbots, they get negrated
PeterL: hi mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ello
mircea_popescu: PeterL sup
PeterL: I was just asking about deebbot, but I think punkman cleared up my questions
kakobrekla: !up Adlai
Adlai: oh thanks
kakobrekla: hi there
Adlai is having trouble with gribble auth, last used two years ago
kakobrekla: o, you are in the wot
kakobrekla: ;;gettrust assbot Adlai
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Adlai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Adlai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Adlai | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: Adlai ;;eauth adlai ;;everify adlay "freenode string"
Adlai: quite weakly so iirc
Adlai hasn't set up GPG auth
kakobrekla: no rush
mircea_popescu: Anduck yeah i see that. i was trying to discuss it with sirius last night but he's not very talkative. you involved ?
Adlai: kakobrekla (~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla): o hey lisp and bitcoins. you might wanna check out #bitcoin-assets ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Adlai you can't be in the wot 2 years ago w/o the gpg auth
mircea_popescu: because they didn't have btc auth back then
Adlai: then 1.5 years ago?
PeterL: you still have btc address 13dkw1PtojBW74FN7ERbHqoEvgsTmtARuj?
Adlai is still digging through old wallet backups
mircea_popescu: a ok. i dun recall the commands but it's there
Adlai: PeterL: oh thank you, that should help :)
kakobrekla: well Adlai , i thought you could be a good fit here
Adlai didn't label it! stupid fucker.
mircea_popescu: if the wallet is old enough you can just do strings wallet
Adlai: no worries
PeterL: with no ratings, it might just be easier to start a new ident?
mircea_popescu: yeah i think peterl has it. and do yourself a favour and use your gpg sig
Adlai: oh nice, i even have laxo spam and a blockchain tag already
Adlai: ;;gettrust assbot Adlai
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Adlai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Adlai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Adlai | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: ;;rate adlai 1 kako and adlai sitting in a tree
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user adlai has been recorded.
Adlai: ^_^
kakobrekla: ...
mircea_popescu: ITS NO USE DENAYING IT
Adlai: l i s p i n g ?
kakobrekla: lel!
mircea_popescu: lol that works
Adlai is still wondering why exactly he was invited here, other than "put odd shit on github"
mircea_popescu: no, that'd be it.
PeterL: what did you put on github?
mircea_popescu: vexual was invited through putting odd shit on pigeons
PeterL: I don't think I was ever invited
mircea_popescu: so how did you end up here ?
PeterL: dunno, seemed like a better place to hang out than bitcointalk
PeterL: I havn't been banned yet
Adlai: https://github.com/adlai/scalpl
assbot: adlai/scalpl GitHub
mircea_popescu: slightly different q's tho, how you found it and how come you're sticking around.
Adlai: well i'm sticking around because i'm hoping to find out what happened to MPEX
mircea_popescu: Adlai you can always check out the logs,
mircea_popescu: what do you mean what happened ?
punkman: love it "Full documentation currently takes the form of idiosyncratic tangled lisp source"
PeterL: ah, found it? don't remember, probably from references on trilema?
mircea_popescu: so that's close enough to invited.
Adlai: well, last time it wasn't loading... now there's some .wsbitcoin thingy and i'm confused
Adlai never had an account, was just curious about it
mircea_popescu: $proxies
Adlai: none
mircea_popescu: hm is FabianB_ s bot down ?
Adlai: or tor sometimes
mircea_popescu: tor ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, adlai : http://mpex.bz/ http://mpex.ws/ etc
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of them
Adlai: oic
mircea_popescu: in other words nothing has happened to mpex, it's been in continuous operation since whatever, 2011
Adlai: right, just some dns hiccups on the one domain that i knew of
PeterL: mpex tld changes, is part of the "resilience from government shutdown"
Adlai: why not just use a decentralized registry? (or is that the .wsbitcoin tld?)
mircea_popescu: you can also talk to it through bots here, just in case.
Adlai: oh, mpex.co is working again too!
mircea_popescu: i think maybe you had a bad cache or something
mircea_popescu: there've been sporadic reports of mpex.co not working, and i saw it report the wrong ip ONCE
mircea_popescu: but i never could get it replicated so dunno wtf.
mircea_popescu: !s mpex.co
assbot: 248 results for 'mpex.co' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mpex.co
mircea_popescu: first line in there.
mircea_popescu: 2nd line is the proxies list
Adlai: please forgive the potentially naive question, but do you have any dedicated liquidity providing partners?
Adlai has gotten used to being surprised in all manner of ways in this "ecosystem"
BingoBoingo: !t m x.eur
assbot: Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh?
mircea_popescu: Adlai http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/ << this'll give you an idea
assbot: MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/ << this is a good companion to that.
assbot: MPOE, March 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Adlai: interesting, thank you for putting up with my ignorance
mircea_popescu: punkman: heh " It's your personal cheat sheet for Wall Street-level analysis of Silicon Valley-style companies." << you know, it's interesting to see how closely the www matches the needs, interests and representational abilities of a community college drop-out.
mircea_popescu: this "making things accessible to the handicapped" kick is the worst idea ever. not for anything to do with itself, but taken way the fuck too far.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: screens coming shortly. <<< i didn't know you were a video guru :D
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: <cazalla> mircea_popescu: I could swear the original DOJ Press release didn't have the 'y', but it looks like that has been updated too. <<< budovsk is a strange amount of name for an arthur to have.
BingoBoingo: Yeah
mircea_popescu: re reporting on derps and their social justice bullshit : meh.
mircea_popescu: nobody cares. they like to pretend everyone cares. nobody does.
mircea_popescu: let cosmo handle that.
mircea_popescu: all these things with "food bank" and "shelter" and etc only exist because someone wants to fuck a teenager somewhere. so it's a perfect tool to get their social position enforced : unless the owner is actually sucking your cock, on a per article basis, don't mention them. all problems solved and everyone happy thus.
mircea_popescu: ;;ident Adlai
gribble: Nick 'Adlai', with hostmask 'Adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai', is identified as user 'Adlai', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 13dkw1PtojBW74FN7ERbHqoEvgsTmtARuj
mircea_popescu: Adlai : pm assbot !up
Adlai: mircea_popescu: ok, reading over those has me thinking a little
Adlai lurks a while
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla clearly knows what he's doing inviting people here.
mircea_popescu: !up disident
Adlai also has increased his "make an ass of himself on IRC" risk tolerance, to apparently good results?
Adlai: nothing ventured, nothing gained
mircea_popescu: everybody likes a good ass.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate disident 1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#867566 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-10-2014 09:07:09; mircea_popescu: so it turns out deedbot got haxed.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user disident has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: from wikipedia on San Francisco: "The city's homeless population has been estimated at 7,000 10,000 people ... The city spends $200 million a year on homelessness related programs." << that's about 20k a head if you imagine that expenditure is really "for the homeless".
mircea_popescu: irl, a bunch of spoiled bratty chicks that *should* be working for max hardcore get to pretend like they're important, charitable and good.
mircea_popescu: they're not, they're rotten skanks.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: that's about 20k a head if you imagine that expenditure is really "for the homeless". << Just think if they gave each homeless their aid cost for three years to move to Ohio... They'd be homed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT <<< add http://pastebin.com/aCqtcurN in the htaccess at the top level.
assbot: dpaste: 32HWXTT
assbot: <FilesMatch "wp-login.php"> Order deny,allow Deny from all Allow from 11.22.3 - Pastebin.com
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT <<< add http://pastebin.com/aCqtcurN in the htaccess at the top level.
assbot: dpaste: 32HWXTT
assbot: <FilesMatch "wp-login.php"> Order deny,allow Deny from all Allow from 11.22.3 - Pastebin.com
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Anduck: mircea_popescu: nope not involved, just tested it a bit
RagnarDanneskjol: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2220824-college-football-picks-week-7-predictions-for-every-game
assbot: College Football Picks: Week 7 Predictions for Every Game | Bleacher Report
BingoBoingo: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/10/10/things_i_wont_work_with_peroxide_peroxides.php
assbot: Things I Won't Work With: Peroxide Peroxides. In the Pipeline:
BingoBoingo: %v
atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 185 Ask: 225 Last Price: 225 30d-Vol: 179k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 180 30d-VWAP: 198
jurov: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021835 B (Total: 477.49 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]
thickasthieves: cazalla, thinking out loud, it might be worth reporting on KateCraigWoods defaulting on her bonds and offering everyone a raw deal, stripeykitteh is pursuing it legally i think, info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286634.msg8732682#msg8732682 ----- and here -----https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4582.0
assbot: [BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE.B1 - a virtual corporate bond with a 22% fixed-fiat APR
thickasthieves: I also have some of the emails with her statements if you want sources
thickasthieves: i dont think anyone has reported it yet, nor Deprived's leaving (he is connected via the bonds)
thickasthieves: overall represents XXXX btc lost
mircea_popescu: Anduck aha okies
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 354.04, Best ask: 355.09, Bid-ask spread: 1.05000, Last trade: 355.19, 24 hour volume: 11322.01271794, 24 hour low: 352.1, 24 hour high: 368.06, 24 hour vwap: 358.275992462
kakobrekla: lolol that letter from kate or whoever is fuckin hilarious
kakobrekla: CM was described as a "virtual company” by LTC-Global (and accordingly referred to as such in the CM Business Plan). However, as a matter of English law, CM may be considered a general partnership. If that is the case, then the 'shareholders' of CM - which includes yourself - would all be considered partners. As partners, they would all be jointly and severally liable for CM's debts, including the 'Bond'. It is therefore possible tha
kakobrekla: t 'bondholders' may seek to take legal action against CM's 'shareholders', including yourself, to seek to recover that debt. However, if 'bondholders' accept the restructure plan proposed below, that risk might be mitigated.
kakobrekla: !
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-stuple/ this ?
assbot: The stuple. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: "24/12/13 Countdown reset due to delays, mailshot has copies of screenshots…merry xmas all ; 13/12/13 Sadly the beta release we wanted will be delayed by a week or so, more details in the newsletter ; 27/11/13 We have the gui wireframes back from designers.."
mircea_popescu: is it gonna be xmas 2014?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 1.96647948 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 171 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.13477034 BTC to 15`798 shares, 7183 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: reading up on the me komet. jesus christ, a peroxide powered rocketplane that throws off its landing gear at takeoff, lands by sliding, unpowered and unsteered.
mircea_popescu: and it glides so well that if you catch an updrift trying to land you're gone, and can't make a goround because unpowered.
mircea_popescu: now THAT should be an experience in flying, eh mthreat ?
penguirker: New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/11/the-six-pillars-for-surviving-in-computer-times/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96800 @ 0.00073944 = 71.5778 BTC [+] {4}
FabianB: $status
empyex: FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.biz mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com mpex.co Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
empyex: FabianB: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (95 milliseconds), mpex.bz (184 milliseconds), mpex.co (455 milliseconds), mpex.biz (717 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (796 milliseconds)
empyex: FabianB: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √
Adlai: why does "empyex" sound like "emptygox" to me?
Adlai can already see the rebranding to Pex™
Adlai: well yes, my cousin did avise me once, "I have one piece of advice for you: don't tell any jokes."
mircea_popescu: not likely that gox'll be remembered much in a year or two.
mircea_popescu: hai FabianB
Adlai: well, they need to be remembered so people remember to do their own risk diversification, something about eggs and baskets
mircea_popescu: ;;google story witless pointless
gribble: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/>; Witless Protection - Rotten Tomatoes: <http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/witless_protection/>; 'ACOD' limp and unfunny | New York Post: <http://nypost.com/2013/10/03/acod-limp-and-unfunny/>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00074054 = 21.5497 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "But I have to admit, I'd never thought much about the next analog of hydrogen peroxide. Instead of having two oxygens in there, why not three: HOOOH? Indeed, why not? This is a general principle that can be extended to many other similar situations. Instead of being locked in a self-storage unit with two rabid wolverines, why not three? Instead of having two liters of pyridine poured down your trousers, why not three?
mircea_popescu: And so on - it's a liberating thought."
mircea_popescu: this guy lol
Adlai: ^_^
Adlai: "it is argued that an antibody in the human body can generate trioxidane as a powerful oxidant against invading bacteria." http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20040913/wentworth.html
assbot: TSRI - News & Views
mircea_popescu: for the record, the only sane name for hydrogen peroxide is lo-ol
mircea_popescu: as in "we did it for the lo-ols"
mircea_popescu: then all his derivates make perfect sense, dihydrogen trioxide = lo-o-ol
xanthyos: from lo+ and ol- ions?
mircea_popescu: well basically the reason anything's an alcohol is because someone took a hydrogen and pasted an -oh group.
mircea_popescu: so methane, ch4, methyl alcohol ch3oh
mircea_popescu: so this would be two -ol groups, h202
Adlai: some chemist had a drunken lo-o-ol?
mircea_popescu: so these three very excited, rusophone derps moved into the building, spent all morning banging around trying to get a large ac unit installed (eventually welded it across on the frame, which was too small for it o.O) and now are playing loud russian pop music while making a bunch of smoke inside a small, 3x4 walled in cubical "balcony" of sorts, under the pretense of a bbq
mircea_popescu: they're really excited about it all too lmao
Adlai: sounds like the most fun they've had all week
mircea_popescu: ya srsly. accomplishments!
Adlai: the world forgetting, by the world forgot
mircea_popescu: think about it, men in their 30s partying without womenz.
mircea_popescu: in celebration of having innovatively misinstalled an ac unit.
thickasthieves: an exploration of extremes
thickasthieves: maybge they end up making out
mircea_popescu: they do look kinda jailbrdy...
mircea_popescu: then again, most people approximately shaved and in wifebeaters do.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how they can afford rent here.
nubbins`: ask 'em, maybe they're getting better rates than you
mircea_popescu: yeah, that'd totally explain why there's three of them living together in bachelor pads.
nubbins`: wait, how many pads?
mircea_popescu: one ?
mircea_popescu: i mean i dunno, but looks like it.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, the thing is designed to be able to "sleep" with two women, but a) women doing it in pairs don't tend to be as bulky as these dudes, and moreover... you know.
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/frank-spinosa-former-td-bank-executive-charged-for-role-in-1b-ponzi-scheme-1.2795778
assbot: Frank Spinosa, former TD Bank executive, charged for role in $1B Ponzi scheme - Business - CBC News
nubbins`: what i don't get is that all these fucking assholes get rich and they just BLOW IT ALL on watches and cars and shit
nubbins`: this guy could've just walked away to wherever and lived happily ever after
nubbins`: but instead he gets a rolex collection and buys 3 mansions in the usa
mircea_popescu: bitcoin-assets watch foundation claims usd increasingly used to scam.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what, you want them to go to argentina, misinstall ac units and have decontextualized bbq parties so old before their time cvasi-jews laugh at them over obscure internet venues instead, like those russians ?!
mircea_popescu: the russians don't understand how the world works, i tell you.
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: *i* want them to get caught
mircea_popescu: why ?
nubbins`: scammers gotta get caught
nubbins`: i'm not talking about your russians here
nubbins`: but about the ponzi types who don't know when to cut & run
nubbins`: it oozes stupidity
mircea_popescu: right, because they're here on a legitimate business purpose such as to study o.O
nubbins`: heh!
mircea_popescu: aaanyway : generally you have a point, in a healthy organism i'm with the organism against the parasites
nubbins`: studying asado
mircea_popescu: but canada would arguably be better served by more scammers.
nubbins`: we have enough already tyvm
mircea_popescu: it's still standing, so no.
nubbins`: for now 8)
nubbins`: ask an albertan what he thinks of a quebecer
mircea_popescu: queer beer ceer ?
nubbins`: ;;google let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark
gribble: National Energy Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Energy_Program>; Let the Eastern Bastards Freeze in the Dark: The West Versus the ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Eastern-Bastards-Freeze-Dark-Confederation/dp/030740062X>; Let the Eastern Bastards Freeze in the Dark - Random House Inc: <http://www.randomhouse.com/book/208460/let-the- (1 more message)
nubbins`: ;;google meech lake accord
gribble: Meech Lake Accord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meech_Lake_Accord>; Meech Lake Accord - The Canadian Encyclopedia: <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/meech-lake-accord/>; The Meech Lake Accord - Historica: <http://www.histori.ca/peace/page.do?pageID=260>
mircea_popescu: o look, the cannucks are trying to construct their own california-vs-jew york dispute! isn't it cute!
nubbins`: all water under the bridge these days ;)
nubbins`: ;;google 1995 quebec referendum
gribble: Quebec referendum, 1995 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_referendum,_1995>; Québec Referendum (1995) - The Canadian Encyclopedia: <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/quebec-referendum-1995/>; 'Yes' vote in 1995 Quebec referendum could have meant ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: wait, your water now FLOWS ?
nubbins`: it's still only october, yeah
nubbins`: give it a cpl months
mircea_popescu: want me to send over an ac install team ?
nubbins`: wtf am i going to do with AC here!
mircea_popescu: bbq ?
nubbins`: oh hm
mircea_popescu: you could empty the casing, discard the compressor and then bbq INSIDE!! A SMALL CUBE!
nubbins`: what do i do with my existing bbq?
thickasthieves: does it fit in the cube?
thickasthieves: dubbelsmokt
mircea_popescu: your existing bbq you could put in a cat carrier ?
mircea_popescu: then your pets can bbq while you bbq
thickasthieves: caturday afternoon bbqz
thickasthieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 37431886873.1 based on data since last change | 36547149048.5 based on data for last three days
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/amaruk-wilderness-questions-raised-about-company-at-centre-of-anti-christian-attack-1.2794452
assbot: Amaruk Wilderness: Questions raised about company at centre of anti-Christian attack - British Columbia - CBC News
mircea_popescu: ;;8ball are they going to play tatu soon ?
gribble: You're kidding, right?
mircea_popescu: is "anti-christian attack" an attack against people against xtians or ?
thickasthieves: these christains have too much troll power
thickasthieves: but these vikings might be up to the task
mircea_popescu: cazalla: it'd be nice to borg writers from say coinfire << the better ones, anyway.
mircea_popescu: don't be shy to shoot people emails if you like em.
mircea_popescu: PeterL: I have a question about deedbot: << deedbot is currently dead and being reimplemented.
mircea_popescu: PeterL: The spec says to generate an address from hashing the text, is there a way for other people to verify this? <<< yes. generate the address, spend the coins sent there.
mircea_popescu: if you do you do, if you don't it's because someone else did, in either case, it's just been verified
kakobrekla: so the 1.2k a month guy wont be coming back?
mircea_popescu: https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << omfg cazalla TRAFFIC IS DROPPING DO SOMETHINGS!11
assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast
xanthyos: <+thickasthieves> these christains have too much troll power
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla not into deedbot project anyway
RagnarDanneskjol: that comment was taken out of context, but I asked him to not bother coming back
RagnarDanneskjol: the 1.2 comment i mean
kakobrekla: ah so we are measuring traffic now? whats next, installing windows on our servers?
mircea_popescu: i can't even troll anymore
mircea_popescu: what sort of a scam trollbox is this!
thickasthieves: use viewers cpu to mine ATC as payment for content
mircea_popescu: uh.
xanthyos: are trolling and derping the same thing?
mircea_popescu: xanthyos no. derping is doing banal retarded shit. stuff that would make one go "oh, derp!" if their brain were functioning
kakobrekla: yeah well and im verboten telling jokes.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla since when ?!
thickasthieves: i like kakojokes
mircea_popescu: +1
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-09-2014#828495 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-09-2014 19:39:26; mircea_popescu: omfg kakobrekla you are banned from jokes.
mircea_popescu: I WAS TROLLIN
nubbins`: kekobrekla
thickasthieves: so is he!
nubbins`: for top kek
kakobrekla: aa ok then
thickasthieves: trollt
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you mean kok ?
nubbins`: top kok
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: check that out, tits' an official kok expert now
kakobrekla: srsly
mircea_popescu: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/oh-derp >> there's even a tumblr!
assbot: oh derp on Tumblr
mircea_popescu: A samurai chemist and a plain chemist walk into a bar. The first says, “Can I have a glass of H2O.” The second says “Can I have a glass of water too.” The first chemist broke down in tears – his assassination attempt had failed.
mircea_popescu: fuck, they're playing tatu!
mircea_popescu: and screaming along
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8 <<
assbot: t.A.T.u. - All The Things She Said - YouTube
mircea_popescu: how fucking stereotypical can some stereotypical dudes be!
thickasthieves: nice song lol
nubbins`: assassination wat
mircea_popescu: nerd joke nubbins`, you wouldn't know :D
nubbins`: OH HA
nubbins`: ding ding ding
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins` claps
mircea_popescu: "It isn't just amateurs who use hydrogen peroxide in rocketry, and unfortunately some of the professionals have to "roll their own" as well. The only remaining supplier for rocket-grade peroxide (in the US at least) has a policy of only selling to government contractors."
mircea_popescu: so very typical
mircea_popescu: of soviet russia.
ben_vulpes: are you reading Ignition! or Corante?
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/10/10/things_i_wont_work_with_peroxide_peroxides.php#1571231
assbot: Things I Won't Work With: Peroxide Peroxides. In the Pipeline:
mircea_popescu: nm, corante.
ben_vulpes: Ignition!'s a lively read.
mircea_popescu: didja make your own peroxide btw ? or not used oxidisers ?
ben_vulpes: muchly referenced throughout corante. required reading for anyone interested in rocket fuels.
ben_vulpes: silver cats.
ben_vulpes: not really a well engineered solution at the end of the day.
ben_vulpes: thing never fired, 'cause derp.
ben_vulpes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Arrow << my heroes
assbot: Black Arrow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: i suppose the more kinetic mommentum one can put behind the rocket, the lower total energy needed for a successful launch
mircea_popescu: so there's plenty of very good incentive to use the most energetic reaction possible
nubbins`: mmhmm
mircea_popescu has never dabbled in rocketry, just going by general physics
ben_vulpes: that is indeed the tradeoff.
ben_vulpes: well hang on
ben_vulpes: the tradeoff is that the higher up the ergodic chain you go, the more little things cause your whole stack to go kaboom.
mircea_popescu: course since g is more or less fixed, the benefit of going from 2g to 4g is significantly larger than the benefit of going from 4 to 8
ben_vulpes: i never got a good answer on how much monte carlo work went into the 60's space programs during the design phase and how much was back of the envelope estimating.
mircea_popescu: 0-100
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: i suspect trajectory planning had lots of sims run. fuel combinations, maybe a few.
mircea_popescu: how ? they didn't have good computers in the 50s, they weren't much inclined to use them, etc. im betting they used the artillery method
mircea_popescu: (shoot and observe)
ben_vulpes: c'est possible
ben_vulpes: you can do some amount of trajectory planning by hand, too.
ben_vulpes: low fidelty, but helps with bounds.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
ben_vulpes: "sims"
mircea_popescu: well if you count handiwork then sure.
ben_vulpes: they had plenty of computers back then!
ben_vulpes: in the classic sense of the word, though.
ben_vulpes: if i recall correctly, japan's orbital vehicle got into orbit with no onboard control, just a gravity turn.
chetty: lots of slide rules, actually
ben_vulpes: further research indicates there was actually onboard control.
mircea_popescu: ^ mechanical computing mostly.
nubbins`: yah
ben_vulpes: brenschluss
mircea_popescu: PeterL: so it becomes a race to see who gets there first once the bundle is published? << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2014#853812 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2014 20:43:07; hanbot: mircea_popescu, i guess the trick you're not sharing here is that you'll be adding mining to this later on, huh?
mircea_popescu: PeterL: yes, so something like a millibit a day if it is used frequently << an hour, actually.
mircea_popescu: way more than the faucet sites iirc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6373 @ 0.00073828 = 4.7051 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: "so mettez-ca sur votre pipe et fumez-la!", my wife just says to me
nubbins`: *ça, even
mthreat: something about put it in your pipe and smoke it?
mthreat: maybe like "stick it up your ass" ? heh
mthreat: unless you're literally loading up your pipe
mthreat: but why did she say "votre", that's the formal
nubbins`: familiarity breeds contempt, duh
nubbins`: anyway yes, this is a "so THERE!" type thing to put at the end of a declarative statement
mircea_popescu: it's not sur tho. sur is on, it'd be dans
nubbins`: dans is on
mircea_popescu: and yes, it's french idiomatic
nubbins`: wait.
mircea_popescu: no.
nubbins`: fuck
mircea_popescu: ;;google M le Président, mettez-ca dans votre pipe et fumez-le!
gribble: More reasons to raise a cheer for London's golden Games - Telegraph: <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/9455037/More-reasons-to-raise-a-cheer-for-Londons-golden-Games.html>; Never Two Such Kingdoms Did Contend Without Much Fall of Blood: <http://www.samefacts.com/2012/08/everything-else/never-two-such-kingdoms-did-contend-without-much-fall-of-blood/>; (1 more message)
nubbins`: i probably just heard it wrong ;p
nubbins`: somewhat related: http://i.imgur.com/KVTaXIJ.jpg
nubbins`: also somewhat related: get in the car, get on the bus
mircea_popescu: actually, related is this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZAbSV1NCOc
assbot: Road Trip - Andy Dick Hotel Scene Roadtrip - YouTube
nubbins`: bawb raws!
nubbins`: oh fuck i should be bob ross for halloween this year
mircea_popescu: i wonder what bob ross does for halloween
nubbins`: drinks, probably.
nubbins`: or maybe...
nubbins`: "i should dress like some canadian asshole who sits on his ass on irc all day"
thickasthieves: bob ross is dead
thickasthieves: so a zombie obv
nubbins`: wow, for like 19 years
nubbins`: only 53 when he died!
mircea_popescu: too much stuff in pipe ?
ben_vulpes: oldie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joITmEr4SjY
assbot: Bitcoin vs. Political Power: The Cryptocurrency Revolution - Stefan Molyneux at TNW Conference - YouTube
nubbins`: trop des choses dans le pipe ;/
thickasthieves: lymphoma
xanthyos: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/truly-buttcoins-2.png << more concerned wiht the white crusty shit on th lens than the crayon in the butt
mircea_popescu: xanthyos you know that's what the slavegirls said, too ?
nubbins`: xanthyos that's prob toothpaste residue on the mirror
mircea_popescu: god loves an optimist.
nubbins`: also, fuck you for reposting, altho i shoulda known
nubbins`: also, who doesn't wipe down their mirror before taking an anus selfie?
mircea_popescu: same person that doesn't wipe down the anus.
nubbins`: fuck that's revolting
nubbins`: attention people of the future: do not click that last link
mircea_popescu: lol
thickasthieves: attention people of the future, read this log backwards!
xanthyos: tachyon-NSFW
mircea_popescu: attention backwards of the future : log this read!
mircea_popescu: who knew nubbs is so squeamish
thickasthieves: i dont think any of us will be hanging posters of mr buttcoin
kakobrekla: nubbs how much for a buttcoin poster
mircea_popescu: single or with wife ?
kakobrekla: dun care
xanthyos: sorry, i'm used to dealing with absolute degenerate immoral filth in my internet peers who have a higher tolerance for ugly things than pretty things
mircea_popescu: o so you're the guy causing that uptick that some watchtower or other noticed recently ?
xanthyos: uptick?
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: kako depends on how many colors ;(
mircea_popescu: hahahha
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mircea_popescu: !b 24 ✂︎
nubbins`: ;;later tell thestringpuller only copy i've got left is my proof, i dun wanna send it to you :\
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: shit check me out, i got the linecount exact.
nubbins`: nb, nb
nubbins`: panko-encrusted basil-lemon pollock tonight
mircea_popescu: Bengay: Original contains 15% Methyl Salicylate and 10% Menthol.
mircea_popescu: Bengay: Muscle Pain/Ultra Strength contains 30% Methyl Salicylate, 10% Menthol, and 4% Camphor.
mircea_popescu: Bengay: Ice Extra Strength contains 10% Menthol.
mircea_popescu: way to sell placebo to a selected market lmao
mircea_popescu: meanwhile chinese made (and generally, better) tiger balm is five dollars a tub
mircea_popescu: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 315772.36 in 306 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.19
cazalla: BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT <<< add http://pastebin.com/aCqtcurN in the htaccess at the top level <<< i don't have a static ip, won't that become problematic for me?
assbot: dpaste: 32HWXTT
assbot: <FilesMatch "wp-login.php"> Order deny,allow Deny from all Allow from 11.22.3 - Pastebin.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1928 @ 0.0006 = 1.1568 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: cazalla if you don't have a static ip it will, yes. how badly unstatic is it ? if it's a.b.*.* locking it down to just those is reasonably useful anyway
cazalla: nfi specifically, i'll reset and see
cazalla: on ipv6, should work still?
mircea_popescu: o you got unstatic ipv6 ?!
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cazalla: maybe it is static, last time i checked it was dynamic ipv4
cazalla: brb
cazalla: ah looks static, guess isp changed it
cazalla: ipv6 fine in that .htaccess?
wyrdmantis: just fought with italian "regulation!!" derps. sooo lulz. hi all. Hope it's a good night/day for everyone
BingoBoingo: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2014/10/10/nobel-prize-airport-security/ << ‘Why were you in Fargo?’
assbot: What Its Like to Carry Your Nobel Prize through Airport Security | Observations, Scientific American Blog Network
cazalla: ah sweet, can turn ipv6 off
thickasthieves: the article just ends abruptly like that?
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Yeah, I mean WTF? Scientific American is qntra nao?
thickasthieves: hey what does qntra mean anyway?
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: remember mircea_popescu's 'unique url' theories?
thickasthieves: yes, i assumed that much
thickasthieves: but does it mean something
thickasthieves: quality news that raises awareness
thickasthieves: there
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Think about it phonetically. There's a lot of directions to go. Contra, cunt raw, question tradition, queer nations toppling radioactive ants
BingoBoingo: Thousands more probably
mircea_popescu: cazalla shold be yes
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/man-arrested-for-using-credit-card-at-cyn-nightclub/
mircea_popescu: "An extended delay in credit card transaction processing left a Patron of Cyn Nightclub in Fort Lauderdale Florida facing grand theft charges. Trusted third party Wells Fargo which issued the card approved an $80 charge for drinks earlier in the night, but failed to approve $600 in charges later in the night. A second card from trusted third party also failed to approve the later charges. $1000 in bail was successfully
mircea_popescu: paid by one of the card issuers to the Broward County Jail."
mircea_popescu: pity they're not more like bitcoin.
BingoBoingo: But note who got paid without question...
mircea_popescu: well obviously.
mircea_popescu: fucking nosy twerps, why were you in fargo.
mircea_popescu: to have raw nonconsensual sexual congress with your daughter
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BingoBoingo: Confirmed total: 19018 BTC << Oh Bitbet is still chugging along
dub: clearly a scam
thickasthieves: https://www.coinbase.com/litecoin lol "Send Money"
assbot: Charlie Lee (litecoin) on Coinbase - Coinbase
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/11/nobel-prizes/
BingoBoingo: I am tired and on the verge of a food coma, but I wonder... When in the name of extremitude and derp will a cooking reality show feature competitors trying to carve a tenderloin filet steak off of a live bull.
thestringpuller: wouldnt the bull just die?
BingoBoingo: Probably not. The boll probably remains intact.
BingoBoingo: One ton of well muscled bovine fury versus scared members of the genus homo?
BingoBoingo: If the animal rights people get worried about the bull developing ptsd because it killed or mained a crowd on television, substitute a mechanical bull.
BingoBoingo: Have the outer shell of the mechanical bull be the musculature of a bull and issue the same challenge
xanthyos: political correctness has gotten so out of hand that they'd rather risk having ebola spread worldwide than risk being called a racist by restricting a couple flights from west africa
xanthyos: in the empire it's more important to be polite than safe
BingoBoingo: Byzantine?
xanthyos: any
xanthyos: it's an example of an implementation of bureaucracy happening "in the field"
xanthyos: frustrating when annihilation can be seen coming and is still allowed to happen
BingoBoingo: Well, politeness and protocol is why Byzantium fell.
xanthyos: why did constantinople get the works?
BingoBoingo: ?
xanthyos: that's nobody's business but the turks'
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