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mircea_popescu: i don't currently see much value in someone bringing old unknown key rather than freshly made.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't think anyone actulaly understands what they're doing or knows why.
felipelalli: I don't understand how they can survive with that hyperinflation
shinohai: Lulzy but I don't have anymore Qntra in me: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36210680
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it to. told him he's an idiot, which is probably all the more unacceptable as it's factual.
asciilifeform: but I don't remember exactly. I created broken test keys, but I don't
mircea_popescu: no, it is not. it is popular among a certain brand of castrato. i don't appreciate castrato opera.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's nonsense. mircea_popescu is a matter of substance, not form. what oyu call full bore is merely an aggregate of stylistic choices i prefer [and i prefer them enough to put above the needs of others, because i simply don't care enough about unknown others], but otherwise it has an infinity of formal homomorphisms, and necessarily an infinity of those could match any arbitrary formal test.
mircea_popescu: i guess more or less like waking with a headache in a dirty bed with a woman you don't recall meeting.
asciilifeform: (i don't presently parse out the subness of subkeys)
mircea_popescu: punkman turns out i don't have such a wonder ;/ you can have 2tb right now, though. should be ok, nevertheless, i think, seeing how it's not a single file/item, but a collection.
mircea_popescu: think about it in these terms : 1. i can sail, and actually used to be / could be very good at it (right body type) ; 2. i could afford a yacht, what. 3. i don't either. ???
Chicago: BingoBoingo, I'm afraid I don't understand. What do you mean by a Clinton v. Clinton election?
meuh: OK, I need to investigate more (going to open again that OpenPGP RFCs) and don't waste your time. I originally tought there was a bug in the interface that was incorrectly reporting my keys as dupes because I've made a single armored export of the public key and feeds this as a single blob to the submission page
mircea_popescu: (can anyone actually load that https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20160503.txt ? i don't see it from anywhere.)
Apocalyptic: 12:18 <+mircea_popescu> Apocalyptic ^ i propose as best candidate for m-r testing. // I'm already working on a more approachable one, also I don't know what's with you and m-r but I don't think m-r is a good factorization algo, I was and am running p-1 , p+1 and ECM
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber i don't get the speed argument.
ben_vulpes: "you mean i don't have to think about the db!?!?"
phf: Datomic is piece of shit for non-trivial datasets. I don't understand how they could steal so much old lisp tech and still manage to fuck it up
ben_vulpes: but i don't know enough about elephant to say.
asciilifeform: i don't recall any new ones
mircea_popescu: i don't recall right off how you calc the probability, but it is indeed tiny.
mircea_popescu: i don't like it being a democratic city, is all.
mircea_popescu: this is kinda how "civilised" derps go the world over. "oh i don't mind la for business, but really, unlivable". so they all move to SF, 30 years later, "oh, i don't mind sf for business, but really, unlivable". so they all move to seattle. then it';s "oh, i don't mind seattle for blabla", move to portlant. next year...
davout: i don't mind paris for business, but really, it's no place to live in, especially with kids
mircea_popescu: i don't get this whole "protesting" bullshit.
ben_vulpes: "half of my advertising budget is wasted, i just don't know which half."
mircea_popescu: and you'll have to desist with that, by the way. yesterday girl burst into tears in subte because i went "you don't understand fractions. pick up a third grade book, or at least it was third grade in romania, whatever highschool / college course it is in english, and study fractions."
BingoBoingo: Though I guess I can see the pedogological value of Hastert's coachin methods, if you don't want to get molested all you got to do is get better at wrasslin than coach is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i think it's not exactly "don't be naked" but moreover part of the "head conception". you know, like streetwalkers / actresses "gotta put their face on". the conception of what a head looks like includes the scarf and that's that.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean spin it up every time
mircea_popescu: i don't agree with this, tbh.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, he's proposing that "someone" is going to go around killing people you don't like ?
mircea_popescu: i don't entertain teh bad.
ben_vulpes: anyway i don't see how 'need' enters into anything. tis only as i said more or less how i procured the thing
ben_vulpes: urllib2 is a perfect example of "but i don't want to write oopython!"
punkman: ben_vulpes: I don't think there's something not to hate
mircea_popescu: mats you havta appreciate, i don't personally live anywhere ; interface the state away.
mats: i can tell you don't know many azns
asciilifeform: the police don't yet bother respectable folk where i live
phf: what you're saying correlates to what i heard, i don't have an opinion because it always seemed like dark magic to me. i've never clicked on ads, and have hard time groking a person who would. but there's also a disconnect of sorts. i understand literotica hack, it is in some ways similar to okcupid hack, it's a cold call, where you have some idea who's the person on the other side, and you just do it in bulk. online ads seem more like fishing, ex
phf: i'm just being a silly, i don't have a strong opinion until i see further direction taken
mike_c: I don't think so. our time would be better spent on gpg than yet another web framework
mike_c: I don't have my keys on me.. so btcalpha will be dead for the next 10 hours. There goes my uptime stats.
mircea_popescu: i don't think tissue damage is a drawback for the practitioners.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't have issue with people using slide rule. i'm reacting to people who are buying slide rules on ebay, because it's the cool retro computational device
phf: from perspective of general education, it's better hygiene where there wasn't any before. i'm more questioning people who use diceware because they don't trust own /dev/random
mircea_popescu: moreover, i'd say 99% of the people making passwords by throwing dice don't have dd or | on the system, because they're stuck on winblowz.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i don't think anyone's using kelvin versioning on trb
pete_dushenski: phf: loving the new search. think you could add a button or link back to the logs so i don't have to diddle the url every time ? ☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> it's what a disinterested mark would politely say to an inept would-be chump manager. i guess the english speakers don't say anything. <- not as directly, no. Possibly something like "it might work," lol
mircea_popescu: it's what a disinterested mark would politely say to an inept would-be chump manager. i guess the english speakers don't say anything.
mats: it was all 'my mentor is now SVP at IBM', 'my cube-mate went on to work for former Intel CEO some-guy-i-don't-care-about', 'i learned so much working with the board at Silicon Valley Bank' at every tech, bidness conference i have ever been to
phf: (i was amused because i thought you were saying that usians don't even have a bitch-track in prison)
phf: i knew a handful of skinheads in russia through sambo and while i don't share their views i find the movie preposterous. an urban intelligentisa play-believes a tough guy, gets raped, cries and repents.
mircea_popescu: oh i forgot, the irish slaves don't count, it's only congo that's on the vip list.
mircea_popescu: what happened to "fuck you, i use physical terms because i invented all of it and if you don't understand anything tell your father to stop drinking."
phf: it looks like that's their mail server, kind of an odd name, but i don't think RMS is involved
asciilifeform: i don't care what the enemy bakes for own use
mircea_popescu: why, i don't fuck fatties, to fall in.
mircea_popescu: no but i don't say to disparage. i say to explain. for him, this makes sense.
phf: well, we don't have a definition, i don't think "we" have ever arrived at a point where definition can be provided. what constitutes a general purpose computer, which are necessary/unnecessary parts. i'm reading 80s vlsi papers and it's all up in the air. should there be math coprocessor or bake it right into cpu, etc. etc. and then you have a "microcomputer revolution", when bill/steve start selling this shit to masses
phf: sure, i don't myself grok the cause. i'm more saying that 80s general purpose computer is a time and place kind of phenomenon
mircea_popescu: phf i don't see how that is different from, "you buy fruit juicer, you can't play dos games on it". yes ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455447 << i don't believe in this futureeither, it's orwell silly. but much more realistic is something like what i described above. you buy "current hardware", you can't boot foolinux, because need bios keys, need to boot redhat. redhat supports your video card, but only in wayland, and the keyboard only works through modern-udev. both require vendor provided binary blobs. etc. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 03:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455044 << i don't comprehend how this can even be a thing.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455256 << http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-12#1450737 same strategies in a scope of a single codebase. naggum came up not for his later escapades (i don't know much about that) but because of his early attempts to fight a braindead internationalization module "MULE" ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: shinohai: the one problem is that i don't have physical control of whole motherfucking net.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't credit his "man needs the herd" nonsense worth halfpence.
asciilifeform: Why is this idea false? I pass over the fact that modern dictatorships don't, in fact, leave the loopholes that the old-fashioned despotisms did; and also the probable weakening of the desire for intellectual liberty owing to totalitarian methods of education. The greatest mistake is to imagine that the human being is an autonomous individual. The secret freedom which you can supposedly enjoy under a despotic government is nonsense,
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455044 << i don't comprehend how this can even be a thing. ☝︎☟︎
phf: for example i don't quite grok why can't press low density vlsi at home. seems like all or nothing kind of proposition.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: i don't know on what basis you think this is relevant to any particular programming language
a111: Logged on 2016-04-21 21:25 mircea_popescu: and for that matter i've yet to hear someone go "i'm not sending anything to derpy webwallet / webexchange / webusgtronism because htey don't gpg sign the address"
mircea_popescu: and for that matter i've yet to hear someone go "i'm not sending anything to derpy webwallet / webexchange / webusgtronism because htey don't gpg sign the address" ☟︎
midnightmagic: fwiw, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another. If I went into it knowing this were the case, I could find it very useful to have this property in my transactions with, say MPEX. But for, say, a *deposit address* on a webpage for an exchange, I *would* want non-repudiability as per, say, TLS message authentication extension in RFC .. hrm. That RFC where it's defined but was never implemen
mircea_popescu: copumpkin i don't, no.
copumpkin: I'm saying that it's fine if you don't honor a sell order of mine
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think so, since moses was a man on a mission from god, it would be a distraction for him (from the mission) to choose to become a magi, hence the story
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell trinque the problem with deedbot being offline is that i am forced into the dilemma of either turn ben_vulpes req for voice down, or else voice people outside of the model. i don't like either horn, at all.
mircea_popescu: oddly enough i don't even recognize my key in short form o.O
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don't get it, what the fuck difference does it make that guy's dad used to be a chiropractor ?!
mircea_popescu: essentially, you see what the big boys are doing, and figure you'll just do it yourself. except - the big boys can do things BECAUSE they are the big boys, ie, there's bernanke there to "save the economy". you aren't, and i can lean on you. moreover, the big boys don't ever do this 2:1 thing. they do a little margin, and as private financing, which is exactly how you should be doing it also.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> shinohai you ever had bimbo bread ? << first time I saw this in a supermarcado i was like "ha! they don't even know..."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1454008 << look, i understand this "teach plox throw the curve" talk has served you well through life. neveretheless, the fact that you don't see more things, and things made by orther people on mpex is that you personally suck. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 14:56 mats: solrodar: 'i don't understand this financial instrument so the operator must be laundering money'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1453984 << new version of "i don't understand how money works so jews must have pact with devil". which is WHAT is the problem with the sort of lowest-possible-effort, deliberately ignorant effort, PeterL ☝︎
mats: i also don't know what the fee has to do with anything
phf: i actually did some maths and was ready to drop 50btc on an mpex account, but held off for the main reason that i don't see a solution (and there wasn't one found) to minor collusion problem. that conversation happened ~last october~ (or whereabouts), it was framed as a hypothetical, but it was a long precursor to chinese miner conferences (that in turn was serious grounds to suspect potential cartel) and all that other stuff.
mats: solrodar: 'i don't understand this financial instrument so the operator must be laundering money' ☟︎
mod6: mike_c: hey, got thos zocchi dice, and they look awesome. really great edges. i don't have a micromoter or whatever, so i can't really give a good break down at this point. but maybe in the future, will have a more comprehensive report.
asciilifeform: ''I don't see a reason to have a x of about the same size as the p. It should be sufficient to have one about the size of q or the later used k plus a large safety margin. Decryption will be much faster with such an x. Note that this is not optimal for signing keys becuase it makes an attack using accidential small K values even easier. Well, one should not use ElGamal signing anyway.'
asciilifeform: and i will point out that epochs as implemented in sane places don't partake of the 'time zone' crapolade.
asciilifeform: i mean, folks don't stuff ~themselves~ into oven, no
mircea_popescu: "by which i don't mean anything other than that they themselves were unaware of what exactly arguing". it's not aboot you!
asciilifeform: and i don't argue it as a universal good, but as something i specifically want out of life.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, it's just this lifestyle / mentality thing. not SO different from your very own gyro-boat thing, really. by which i don't mean anything other than that they themselves were unaware of what exactly arguing.
mircea_popescu: i know no such thing, and you're lucky you don't have tits, there'd be a whipping in it for you by now.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i don't use dns.
mircea_popescu: trinque no i don't think YOU're the problem. i think ircd is the fucking problem.