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jurov: usg bad,too but more fuel
asciilifeform: british, or su, or usg
asciilifeform: and i dare say, usg-izing.
asciilifeform: in -every- case, the sc4mz0rz who are willing to use 'a little bit' of usg toolchain, overwhelmingly win on cost and speed
asciilifeform: nor are their fabs (last i checked) toolchain-clean in terms of 100% usg-free.
asciilifeform: as far as usg is concerned, this kind of design -is- proper
decimation: http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=18757 < baltimore burns, and 40 miles away usg implements plans to instruct hobbyist r/c aircraft pilots
mircea_popescu: kinda why bitcoin is so important. kinda why the gavincoin disarray was so "nobody could have predicted" for the usg side.
asciilifeform: which is likewise turdalicious usg tentacle.
asciilifeform: (i am deliberately not counting exotica made by other usg muppets, e.g., the (former) ibm's old 'power' chips, etc.)
asciilifeform: wtf is with the 'ninja' preoccupation of usg muppets
asciilifeform: imho it is worth looking into, because 1) without question they are under the usg glass dome and 2) serious, otherwise educated folks may very well be in the chumpset
mircea_popescu: who exactly in the usg do you think is or was served by wiping most of their army ?
lobbes: danielpbarron: you think it may have been an 'inside job' by usg? I have heard that pov from others, too
mircea_popescu: usg delivering "keys" to its own people etc.
mircea_popescu: yo usg : BLOCK.INCREASE.IS.NOT.HAPPENING.THIS.YEAR
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 21:02:32; ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not.
ascii_field: eltsin died, ru spat out the usg cock, and is to bleed for this, yes
ascii_field: and that this is perfectly pedestrian fact, regardless of whether you like usg or putin or kim jong un or hitler
ascii_field: and now fellate usg.
ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: whether groupon (usg mafia) gets it or ru or cn mafia gets it... still gotten.
mircea_popescu: exes are the real threat. they sunk a lot more ~profitable~ businesses than the various usg.agency constructs.
mircea_popescu: this ex stole just the domain names. ps - if you're into "building an online business" - forget the idiots trying to push "compliance" because hey, they live off the usg dole so gotta pretend like the usg matters to even be able to get up in the morning.
asciilifeform: the kind that sets fire to grocer because his usg-sponsored lunch skipped a day?
asciilifeform: this is one reason why the uprisings are permitted (hell, organized) by usg
mircea_popescu: of usg's hand picking, no less.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> why would you, or anyone stand for the usg ?! << i can think of one reason - if alternative is surrender to orcs
mircea_popescu: why would you, or anyone stand for the usg ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what does it mean to 'drive out statal enforcement' in a place that is run 100% on usg largesse ?
decimation: I'm not sure about such a coordinated plot, but it certainly is the case that urban police departments are independent power centers upon which usg frowns
asciilifeform: usg-4, as we can see, was nearly in full bloom already.
mircea_popescu: myeah. so teh usg has all these minor muppets it keeps trying to use in that manner. get the majors out so they can finally play
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121371 << that's in no way related to usg. they have hanging dope peddlers forever, with a brief interruption while britain bullied them into stopping it because it had no other trade goods available. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 20:06:04; ascii_field: williamdunne et al: 'micronations' are interesting right up until you try actually using them for something (e.g., resisting usg dictate) and it gets bulldozed. so, approximately as interesting as a pistol that is guaranteed to explode in your hand.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: the usg muppets are in high gear, yes
ascii_field: trinque: this map only counts dollar-denominated payouts from usg to states
trinque: scientology's tax exempt status is a goddamn hilarious defeat of usg
ascii_field: if anything, they are more eager to enforce usg dictate than usg proper
ascii_field: letting it be known that you will wreck usg is not 'aggressive' except to usg muppet theatre
ascii_field: williamdunne et al: 'micronations' are interesting right up until you try actually using them for something (e.g., resisting usg dictate) and it gets bulldozed. so, approximately as interesting as a pistol that is guaranteed to explode in your hand. ☟︎
decimation: then they realized that they occupied a massive vacuum left by sun and old purveyors of unix to usg
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1120368 << rhel was not BORN a usg agency. it first made money, on a totally different business model, before folding in. this celia approach to life doesn't work as a way to START. it's a way to end. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (naturally, usg will pocket the bulk of this difference, but such is the nature of muppet war)
williamdunne: Everything the USG does is funny
ascii_field: mats: the kind of schizo that seems to live and breathe solely to discredit actual investigation into usg shenanigans
asciilifeform: we will know when usg falls, when this magical barrier disappears.
asciilifeform: for machines that matter - usg jet fighters, etc. - not only pb but enviro-whiner 'atrocities' like halon are permitted.
ascii_field: ebay works well for getting 'golden toilets' for their actual market price vs the usg tentacular price
ascii_field: existing ones are 'decent' from perspective of usg et al.
decimation: the corruption in selling physical goods to usg is nowhere near the size of the corruption of 'selling services'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you ever seen a usg contractor bill ?
ascii_field: rather than usg-style boiling of the oceans
ascii_field: and based on the choice of target, usg -wants- idiots to use 'goodcrypto' on account of it being derp
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube << the only reason why they so easily sell this flavour of snake oil is that virtualizator gets you 'cpu cycles by the pound' and buckets of little arm boxes - don't (why not? because we never actually invented parallel processing or, especially, process migration. apparently. at least, unix world did not.)
mircea_popescu: usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube.
mircea_popescu: because you know, usg keeps a master key, or so the rumour goes.
asciilifeform: but back to the machines, because i consider this a mega-educational moment - there are countless instruments where you can pay, e.g., 10k on 'ebay' but you can also pay 800k if you want new, with support contract, for the mandatory softs to not be considered pirated, etc., etc., (most of this is strictly usg)
asciilifeform: these things deprecate on the 'usg pays maxint, scrap dealer pays 1%' formula.
mircea_popescu: could be punishment for the usg twerps. "you now have to program on this"
Pierre_Rochard: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111248 < my former employer, was a great firm pre-1930, now just an extension of USG ☝︎
decimation: "Mobile payments are a natural extension of the digital lifestyle, while protection against digital theft becomes an imperative for regulatory agencies around the world." < note usg mission creep
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 16:12:23; mats: i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor
mats: i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well at that time you couldn't tell what happened. for all you know, nano was usg-kidnapped.
mircea_popescu: it's the usg playbook : give more people the illusion of participation, so you can take more control of the underlying processes.
mircea_popescu: there's no value "collectively". there seems to be, currently, because the usg / ag etc are propping them up on borrowed money.
ben_vulpes: usg can break it like they broke gpg, but that broken thing will not and cannot be bitcoin
mircea_popescu: anwyay, yeah, people were derping about hoiw forcing usg to assume its assets is "bad" and the foundation pretense was somehow "better"
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> vessenes fundation burned to the ground: http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html << merely usg being forced to assume its minions.
jurov: i don't see how these are better (with exception of the usg deficit maybe)
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, lift the washington monument, realign jupiter, fill the mariane gap, cover the usg deficit
BingoBoingo: <ascii_lander> until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure) << I only worry because I've pointed local orcs to qntra posts
ascii_lander: until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure)
ascii_lander is as certain that woman is in full agreement re: this issue as that she isn't a usg succubus
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: suppose lets in on secret that she was usg mole all along also.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is what this is : the usg has been defeated. << Last I checked Will Smith was still president
mircea_popescu: the usg has similarly had all its industry destroyed and is entirely out of money.
ascii_lander: or is the algo 1) get killed messily by usg 2) while camera rolls 3) ??? 4) profit
mircea_popescu: this is what this is : the usg has been defeated.
mircea_popescu: but by and large im with williamdunne on this : if what it takes to force the usg into abject surrender is turning suburbia into iraq, fucking turn suburbia into iraq.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Only filed because necessary to certify with USG 0 payments on stafford loan repayment plan. Can only tolerate so much phone spam
ascii_lander: it does not apply to anything usg or its tentacles might do.
decimation: I can't imagine what kind of 'business logic' would go behind such a decision on samsung's part, other than "let's keep the little derps alive to keep usg off our back"
Citizenfive: For most of us here, that means either (1) resign to being an NPC, and stay off the radar that would allow use of *those* sorts of USG assets, or (2) compartment, compartment, compartment
Citizenfive: if the threat model includes USG, at the DPR-severity level (Senators declaring war on you — see Schumer etc a couple years ago), only compartmentation will save you (maybe)
BingoBoingo errs on the side of underestimating the worth of his meat to USG
BingoBoingo wonders how many USG stooges will be billed to read Heraclitus nao
mats: and shortly after, usg left iraq. afghan deployments were gone for the most part.
ascii-bolivia: what they believe - or pretend to - if one were to dignify it with a reduction to logical terms which make sense to a normal person, is: that usg is sorta like a searchlight, that cannot cover the whole universe simultaneously but can certainly be pointed at miscreants as need be, when their turn comes
ascii_modem: there are 'places' to which usg - while exists as such - simply will -not- go, and where the question can only be re: -which- specific set of sophistries will be made use of to avoid going there
ascii_modem: usg wins this one - because alternative - holding pd to hygienic standards - is 'skies-fall' mega-inconceivable
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Huge fans of US in general, in Midano with petite al queda USG nexus, but corrupt enough fot civilized living
asciilifeform: <BingoBoingo> ... the Phillipines interest me as an expatriation point << afaik - worst of all worlds: thoroughly usg-owned, but with all the 'pleasures' of the Turd World
asciilifeform bona fide ukr per usg passport
BingoBoingo: But I don't think Meatspace Vegas managed to elude the USG's money tracking slime mold
ascii_field: the 'up-side' - perhaps the only one - of being a hermit monster is that the tools built for nailing the 'eusocial' don't work on you. i.e. you negrate a usg shill in your mind at most forty seconds after initial contact
mircea_popescu: usg went in the middle and lost, there being no middle. but this is funny, psychologically, because : all socialisms always live by fleecing the middle class. for all the verbiage, it's the "kulak" that supported the soviets, not the filthy rich capitalist dudes.
mircea_popescu: the people who are incompetent also never cared what the usg was putting out, and have and use convenient solutions that mostly also don't involve it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : the people who are competent never cared what the usg was putting out, and have and use functional solutions that don't involve it.