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asciilifeform: 1) knows how $algo worx 2) knows how it fails, and eventually produces phantom sigs 3) knows who pushes it 4) knows why
kanzure: anyway the concern is that there's not enough pure silicon available to make enough flash memory for future projected demands of like 2^28 bits in ~20 years.
asciilifeform: but yes it looks like a $2-3k to change a dead hdd..
mircea_popescu: so then 1, for phuctor, 1tb item ; 1 for special purpose amd, as much as it can carry, and 2 run of the mill, what's to be found at a decent price.
mod6: 2.75mm
asciilifeform: http://www.imf.ru/index.php?subm=3&sid=1&ssid=3&lsid=2 << vendor
mircea_popescu: this is because of set theoretic considerations whereby increases in the mod parameter increase the pile of possible results, eg mod 2 is 0 or 1
mircea_popescu: 2. we select the first 22 bits of the dividend, to wit 1 0100 1100 1110 1010 0110 0 and we compare the divisor to it. as the divisor is larger, we add one further bit, obtaining 1 0100 1100 1110 1010 0110 01.
mircea_popescu: moar like the nazy 2 seater item.
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apeloyee: standard barrett requires a*b<n^2, yes. hence I specified the double-precision reciprocal.
asciilifeform: and incidentally barrett , as iirc i mentioned in yesterday's thread, requires that a*b < n^2.
apeloyee: ((maxint+1)^2)/N
apeloyee: what woud be wrong with barrett reduction if you calculate a sufficiently precise reciprocal of modulus N,i.e. (maxint+1)^2/N?
apeloyee: would O(N^2) modular multiplication be too slow?
asciilifeform: 2+ param optimization is a punishment, not entertainment
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 19:48 asciilifeform: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/animation-final-black-2.gif << likbez
mircea_popescu: carbon is 2-3% in steel.
mircea_popescu: 2/3 by weight.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 23:11 mircea_popescu: 2. a fine example of how "i work for the web man" rots the brain, is that in an implementation of the above discussed mod-distributiver, the "common" consensus impulse would be to add a test, make sure the list elements respect the condition of <modulus. this however is very much the wrong thing ; and it is a tmsr-graduate level question to explain why and wherefore.
mircea_popescu: 2. a fine example of how "i work for the web man" rots the brain, is that in an implementation of the above discussed mod-distributiver, the "common" consensus impulse would be to add a test, make sure the list elements respect the condition of <modulus. this however is very much the wrong thing ; and it is a tmsr-graduate level question to explain why and wherefore. ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-12#1712362 << i actually use this one pretty frequently when i type for identifiers, abbreviations and section headers in notes. really any time i need to type more than 2 capitalized letters in a row.. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but actually congrats to mircea_popescu for reinventing 2 separate knuth algos.
mircea_popescu: consider the number 97. is is 1100001. they do mp_mod (2^6, 2^5, 2^0) ; you can do (2^6, 2^5, 0* 2^4, 0* 2^3,0* 2^2,0* 2^1,2^0). the list method will sitll work, but this time in constanttime.
mircea_popescu: this may or may not be cheaper ; but in general you would build a list of the pre-calculated mods of all the powers of 2 up to your bitness and save that to save on work.
asciilifeform: ( i promise i have nfi how to do it. just like i don't know how to make 2+2=5 )
asciilifeform: 1) mircea_popescu describes algo for mod. 2) turns out exactly knuths's, that is in existing ffa 3) describes 'do it to each term of a+b+c in karatsuba' 4) this dun work, if it worked we would be bragging about the new 133337 recursive modular mult algo we've got
mircea_popescu: repeat 2 until you have populated a list of equal length, and return the correct element from it.
mircea_popescu: 2.2 if smaller, add mod to it
mircea_popescu: 2.1 if larger, substract mod from it
mircea_popescu: 2. compare result to mod ;
mircea_popescu: for simplicity, input list limited to 2 elements, but expansion obvious.
mircea_popescu: and this is potentially recursive, in that if you have a 500 bit number with 300 ones in it, you do the mod for 500 terms which are all a power of 2, throw 200 away, keep the other 300 and add them. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 20:54 asciilifeform: and it happens B^2 times
asciilifeform: take trivial case, a=b=c=1 and n=2
mircea_popescu: ie, all the trivial polynomials of the mod, see ? x, x^2 + x, x ^ 3 + x etc etc
asciilifeform: ( EVERYBODY, without exception, 1) did something intrinsically nonconstanttime 2) lied about it in print )
mircea_popescu: 1. multiply x and y ; 2. count bits of result ; 3. count bits of modulus ; 4. multiply modulus with count2 - count3 and test if larger than result. if not, substract. if yes, multiply with count2-count3-1 and do the same. repeat until result smaller than modulus.
asciilifeform: and it happens B^2 times ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 18:23 asciilifeform: you have the following primitives : multiplier ( 2 N-bit numbers -> 1 2N-bit number ); adder ( ditto ); subtractor ( ditto ); muxer ( 2 N-bit numbers, 1 single-bit number, yields one or the other N-bit depending on that single bit ) ; logical ops (and/or/xor/not)
mircea_popescu: bear in mind dentine is like 2.5 mohs. so not so great (which is why enammeled in actual firing-in-field tooth)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/animation-final-black-2.gif << likbez << Plenty of room to grout to top of machined piston
asciilifeform: https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/animation-final-black-2.gif << likbez ☟︎
asciilifeform: you have the following primitives : multiplier ( 2 N-bit numbers -> 1 2N-bit number ); adder ( ditto ); subtractor ( ditto ); muxer ( 2 N-bit numbers, 1 single-bit number, yields one or the other N-bit depending on that single bit ) ; logical ops (and/or/xor/not) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: > gb item is large yes. 700mb film is normal, 2.1 gb large.
asciilifeform: 1) move the btc using trb, to new addr 2) import (now empty on btc chain) privkey into shitcoin node 3) empty the shitcoins into a gox 4) sell
asciilifeform: 2-4 requires a disasmer
mircea_popescu: golden standard is 1. take ye olde wallet.dat ; 2. dump all txn in it ; 3. dump all addresses involved in them ; 4. get privkeys for all addresses in that list (most of which fail).
BingoBoingo: In other news, people are bitching all scandalized about plywood selling for what it sells for. Turn out they've been looking at 2'x2' and 2'x4' sheets instead of full sheets.
mircea_popescu: ws that 2. everyone is perfect in every way (called "special" in-universe) ; meanwhile 3. because progress and pangloss' best possible world, all historical characters are definitionaly LESS than the present troop of ruminants (and see also the inflation delusion, as well discussed for instance in http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#comment-122822 ) from which together it then follows and from this in turn it
mircea_popescu: and before you laugh : this is EXACTLY what they are thinking, it's not a joke, it's a statement of fact. 1. everyone has "the human right" of being here in the first place, and being free of any "rape" such as being insufficient for anything, or in any way inadequate, including being untalented, obese, you name it. 2. from the indemnity againast any inconvenience or shortcoming (called "negativity" in-universe) it then follo
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is this carryless addition/GF(2)/xor package part of finite field arithmetic
a111: Logged on 2017-09-08 06:10 ben_vulpes just looked up GF(2), while working to understand how the keccak 'reference' authors got from the step definitions in 1.2 to the pseudocode in 2.3, experiencing an 'oh dear' moment
ben_vulpes just looked up GF(2), while working to understand how the keccak 'reference' authors got from the step definitions in 1.2 to the pseudocode in 2.3, experiencing an 'oh dear' moment ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (the item that leveled bucharest in 1977 was 7.2 not 8, and it happened 200kms away.)
PeterL: Lane is a mod 2**64 type
asciilifeform: or at least mod 2**64
asciilifeform: namely, 1) their artfully dodging the front lines , of the actually relevant problems known in their time 2) piling up megatonne upon megatonne of mathemasturbatory jizzrag , instead of doing their duty in going for maxwellian parsimony until last drop of blood
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-9-2#197795 << moving, building new command post over the next two weeks; should return to 'contributing member of society' status within the month
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phf: looking at my code, i have the whole cond form (i.e. http://btcbase.org/patches/ircbot-genesis#L152) wrapped in (let ((msgtext (remove-if (lambda (c) (member c (list (code-char 1) (code-char 2)))) msgtext))) ...) which is a bit lazy, but works
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scriba: ssh banner of 74.45.228.159 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.2
asciilifeform: 2 is same as 9000 in this respect
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/party-monster-2/ << Trilema - Party Monster
spyked: stumbled upon http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-02#1692820 <-- *theoretically* (where theoretically = I'm mostly pulling this out of spyked arse, so hold on to eggs) possible. problems as far as I can see are 1. no. of transistors, 2. arch/microarch design, e.g. how to use general-purpose registers (assuming there are gp registers there); and I assume there might be bigger problems, some of which mentioned by asciilifeform. static checking ☝︎
trinque: http://deedbot.org/deed-427443-5.txt << gcc-4.9.2.tar.bz2
trinque: shinohai: 4.9.2's in deedbot for trb deps btw
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-09-02 19:34:56: <kisspunch> gcc 7.1.1 20170630 / ld 2.28.0.20170506 / FT-Jam 2.5.3
mircea_popescu: ideally you get something denser than trad printer. if you manage 2-3k dpi (with a tractor!) then you can just prepare your receiver on an endless sheet of paper (process upstream) and just print and print and print. constantly. sort-of how the correct re-asphalt road crew works.
kanzure: acetonitrile, tetrazole, ammonia, 3-methoxypropionitrile, 2-methyl glutaronitrile, etc.
asciilifeform: ( though i currently suspect that something in the spirit of scheme-79 could fit in no more than 2 -- 1 for the alu and 1 for memory control/gc )
phf: asciilifeform: i don't really understand fpga peripherals architecture very well, but you think you could eyeball compare what's available in ice to pipistrello. (i'm curious where there's a limitation as far as porting cadr) http://pipistrello.saanlima.com/index.php?title=Welcome_to_Pipistrello#Pipistrello_Rev_2.0_Hardware_Description
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 15:38 asciilifeform: in very very other noose : the vendor's vga and ps/2 kbd demo verilog for ice40 builds and WORX
asciilifeform: in all fairness this is much classier than the last 2 nsa резидент we had. we're moving up, folx!11!
asciilifeform: ' The SHA-3 version of Keccak being proposed appears to provide essentially the same level of security guarantees as SHA-2, its predecessor. If we are going to develop a next generation hash, there certainly should be standardized versions that provide a higher security level than the older hash functions! NIST, in the original call for submissions, specifically asked for four versions in each submission, with at least two that would
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider something like : 1. split item to sign into 512 byte blocks. create block 0 from rng. sign hash(block 0), hash(block 1 + hash(block 0)), hash(block 2 + hash(block 1 + hash(block 0))), and so following.
mircea_popescu: 2-300k will buy you flat "in san francisco, where trains go"
shinohai: https://github.com/owocki/pytrader <<< "My test portfolio was initialized with a 1 BTC deposit, and after 2 months and 23,413 trades, exited with 0.955 BTC. The system paid 2.486 BTC in fees to poloniex."
a111: 2 results for "cryptographic poker", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=cryptographic%20poker
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2 ** 256 = 1.157920892373162E77
mircea_popescu: !~calc 2 ** 256
mircea_popescu: block 1 : blabla. signed. block 2 : hurrdurr. signed.
asciilifeform: what is it to do if it has 2+ ?
mircea_popescu: i heard chix megaphoning 1-2-3-4 befoar.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-01#1708973 << no. some non-people are trained as part of their non-people training at the hands of old women to a. never show their cunt in public b. run away whenever specific sounds are heard (1. sirens, 2. "freeze", 3. "nigger", 4. numbers and math, 5. etcetera). this is how old women build "a society" which looks exactly like fucking john gast's "american progress", a "painting" made by tele ☝︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in very very other noose : the vendor's vga and ps/2 kbd demo verilog for ice40 builds and WORX << cool
asciilifeform: ( olimex sells a little adapter that bolts vga db15 plug and minidin ps/2 to the ice40-1k and -8k boardz )
asciilifeform: in very very other noose : the vendor's vga and ps/2 kbd demo verilog for ice40 builds and WORX ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i dunno, back in say 2014-2015 we had 1.5-2k-2.5k line logs and it wasn't such a load. but the lines musta gotten denser or something, because even 1k nowadays is like... god.
mircea_popescu: 2 bitcents is like 90 dollars or what is it now, for a frame.
scriba: ssh banner of 80.86.145.56 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-4
asciilifeform: problem is that in analogueistan, 2+2 do not make 4, but 4.0003588437865876 etc. and error MULTIPLIES.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1) it's obviously unidirectional a->b, yea 2) aite
asciilifeform: ( at same time , intel ships at least 2 independent remote anal punishment holes in chipset; then there are the nic vendors (incl. intel...) and so forth )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707765 << i'd be surprised if 1 in 10 people here watch any given video. prolly goes to 1 in 2 or 3 re pics, and is 1 in 1.x or even 1.0x re text. so bear that in mind.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 21:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707765 << i'd be surprised if 1 in 10 people here watch any given video. prolly goes to 1 in 2 or 3 re pics, and is 1 in 1.x or even 1.0x re text. so bear that in mind.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707765 << i'd be surprised if 1 in 10 people here watch any given video. prolly goes to 1 in 2 or 3 re pics, and is 1 in 1.x or even 1.0x re text. so bear that in mind. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
fyr: which will take 2 dudes with jackhammers a day to install, disrupting any attempts to get work done during that day