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ben_vulpes: phf: certainly, rush job?
ben_vulpes: phf: pretty sure mimi's on utc
mircea_popescu: phf http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/cnpEH/?raw=true
asciilifeform: phf: i'd doubt that the existing open sores turd would do the job ( esp how 'render without gpu' is a more or less entirely untested component, 'everyone has gpu!111' etc )
mircea_popescu: phf the topic of making clients for teh eulora is very much open, my model is that there's a bunch of 3rd party clients, from text to whatever gpu-enabled thing.
mircea_popescu: phf something like that.
asciilifeform: phf: i know very little re eulora design process, but did assume that mircea_popescu et al deliberately put in a polygon count limit, and that the logic was approx like this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly as phf describes, there's a certain drag/lift factor in work being done. have you noticed how effort allocation tends to follow "what's happening" more than "i've though about this" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 14:27 phf: the interface is not very thought through because there's not enough dog fooding happening. vpatches require higher overhead than git blobs by design following the principle of measure ten times, cut once. but that means that it takes longer to evolve a workflow around them since the trickle of new updates is much slower
asciilifeform: worx great , in fact, ty phf !!
asciilifeform: phf: neato, seems to work...
asciilifeform: phf: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-23#890622 ☝︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell phf l0gz feature request -- turn the href in links to *.bitcoin-assets.com into btcbase ( printed text of link can remain same, in principle )
mod6: phf: haha. for sure.
mod6: phf: cool
asciilifeform: phf: the thing i repeatedly caution folx against, is to do anything that might result in the existence of vpatches which require tools ~other than v~ to fit-in-head/operate on.
asciilifeform: phf: not necessarily -- http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-23#890173 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: phf has hosted vpatches so far without much fuss
ben_vulpes: in re candi_lustt, i'll point out that anyone in l2 could trivially reproduce her elsewhere, if phf's examples didn't drive the point home
mircea_popescu: phf depends though. reagan usa was very much unlike clinton+ usa.
asciilifeform: phf: belenko, perhaps ultimate stereotypical escapee ( stole no less than a mig-25 ! ) iirc was last seen selling used cars.
mircea_popescu: phf we are judging elite on the strength of action rather than ideology. properly-fat-female is elite because can fuck. properly-soviet-bureaucrat is not elite because can not do jack shit.
mircea_popescu: phf the point you're not seeing because it's so unexpected and i didn't make it specifically was that the definition of elite scales with society. elite is "who has objective value". in late soviet, much like in late usg reich, the strippers were the elite
asciilifeform: phf: who, and when, where, demonstrably arrested solely because relative went
mircea_popescu: phf the specific phrasing of protective female bullshit (PFB) is studied in a different discipline, but sure.
asciilifeform: mod6, phf , et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/horsecocks.tar.gz << i dun recall posting this before, so here it will live, for nao : unofficial release of mmaptron ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 18:45 asciilifeform: phf: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/4_1_15_stas.txt
trinque: I think phf is right in pointing to old debian cd sets as dep time capsules.
asciilifeform: phf: i assumed he meant 'the mirrors'
asciilifeform: incidentally phf, i've been using the machine i built wih that recipe, ever since, and the list of proggies that - turns out - won't build ( because terminally infested ) is getting ever longer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform phf will not support your insanity. the last time any of those interns had a $100 plate, it was hash brownies.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants photodocumentary, i could possibly even make one. though phf is better qualified, he goes deeper into subj iirc
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-03#1665775 << you're registered. I deleted the other registrations. phf's rate seems to have been lost in the mess, so... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 03:07 phf: like masterboy or mr. president or snap!
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:41 phf: kek "don't write undefined behavior"
mod6: <+phf> yall need jesus. << haha
sina: phf: yall write this deedbot in lisp?
sina: maybe phf is right and my key is fucked for real operations?
sina: phf: I used to use this key to identify with assbot all the time :(
herbijudlestoids: how does a fool change their pubkey association, phf or anyone? or am I just stuck now
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 01:50 phf: his concept of jets sort of reminds me of lisp VOPs, with similar failure modes. vops originally were supposed to abstract a lisp machine cpu on traditional hardware, so that, say, addition vop adds all the assembler overhead of typechecking etc. in reality it turned into an everything and kitchen sink way of adding arbitrary assembler to the system
mircea_popescu: phf cue.
trinque: thanks phf; I'll look at it.
herbijudlestoids: thanks phf
deedbot: phf rated erlehmann 1 << new blood
erlehmann: phf have you ever played “digital – a love story”? apparently christine love is too young, so she pieced together how 1989 looked through textfiles.com – http://scoutshonour.com/digital/
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 02:48 phf: c standard is written with an assumption of a "c machine", which in turn is entirely undefined
asciilifeform: phf: possibly this ; or possibly the cockroaches in his head decided , entirely arbitrarily, to do it, for no discernible logic at all
erlehmann: phf please do not devote time to debugging. but is the result of nock([57 [4 [0 1]]]) NOT 58?
erlehmann: phf i believe redo is an unpolished gem. sadly, many people implement it ALMOST correctly and then do something stupid
erlehmann: phf if you want to learn about redo, i suggest to: 1. read djb's notes. 2. read http://news.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/bin/redo-sh.html and my man page 3. avoid apenwarr's unmaintained implementation (it is the only one that got some popularity, but massively shitty)
erlehmann: phf looks better
a111: Logged on 2017-06-03 00:36 phf: also my own phf-shiva-swank is broken somehow, probably because i was pressing with not "real" v tooling. actually i need to fix that..
erlehmann: phf i hope this change flies without a vpatch, should be evident it is not malicious
erlehmann: phf add following CSS to stylesheet: pre { margin-bottom: 0; }
erlehmann: phf fix is easy
erlehmann: phf the reasons seems to be that every single line on the right side is wrapped in <pre> and <span>
erlehmann: phf http://i.imgur.com/UuhywZT.png
phf: also my own phf-shiva-swank is broken somehow, probably because i was pressing with not "real" v tooling. actually i need to fix that.. ☟︎
erlehmann: phf that makes … too much sense. thanks.
erlehmann: phf what does the arrow at the right mean? http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=bot&search=&action=update
erlehmann: phf does it still exist? if so, where?
erlehmann: phf link shows http://btcbase.org/patches/ which redirects to http://btcbase.org/patches/NIL
erlehmann: phf your patch visualizer linked here http://cascadianhacker.com/07_v-tronics-101-a-gentle-introduction-to-the-most-serene-republic-of-bitcoins-cryptographically-backed-version-control-system is apparently gone
erlehmann: phf i still use the neo2 keyboard layout. it has several advantages over qwert(y|z) for me: 1. less strain put on my hands 2. useless caps lock replaced with another mod key 3. built-in layers for useful unicode 4. compose in the base layout
a111: Logged on 2017-06-02 14:17 phf: you can buy a patek philippe caliber 89 from christie's for $11m. last time it went for $5m in 2009. at that inflation rate obummer bought a 2009 $4m house, which is a reasonable upper middle for potomac apparatchiks.
asciilifeform: phf: tensor!111
a111: Logged on 2017-06-02 14:17 phf: you can buy a patek philippe caliber 89 from christie's for $11m. last time it went for $5m in 2009. at that inflation rate obummer bought a 2009 $4m house, which is a reasonable upper middle for potomac apparatchiks.
asciilifeform: phf: i've been inside a bunch of these, but only on embassy expo day
mircea_popescu: phf "nowadays" rapidly becoming ourdemocracy's chief dirty word.
asciilifeform: phf: yes it's wormy
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 19:23 phf: indeed. i'd like for one of these fucks to go "oh, we've tried this solution in 87 and there's reason A and B for why it's not applicable at industrial scale" or "oh we need 10000KB/s which means that blah blah blah"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 19:16 phf: i wonder what they mean by "large amounts", could they just run a handful of FUCKGOATS in parallel? is there some hidden flaw in FUCKGOATS approach that makes the solution non-viable? so many questions!
asciilifeform: phf: d00d was always a bit... odd. recall his paper re 'make as little use of rng as possible, because ohnoez it could be subverted' ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 14:41 phf: validating input is the security community mantra that i remember since i joined it in 99 or so
erlehmann: phf good profs listen and learn even from students if appropriate.
mircea_popescu: phf and then you ask him why he continues to pretend like he has something to say in plenum and he breaks down and cries before 200 students.
erlehmann: phf so about that v grammar.
asciilifeform: phf: it's poison.
erlehmann: phf yeah, the results are not palatable to people. “what i can not do ‘<script>document.write('<script>')</script>’ anymore?”
erlehmann: phf basically, “be liberal in what you accept” is bullshit. be definite about what you accept.
erlehmann: phf someone gives you a “mp3” file with ogg page structure? abort immediately.
erlehmann: phf i have worked on existing protocol. the grammar codifies the assumptions that you as a programmer make. take an ENUM in the input, for example. grammar should only contain values you know you can process right.
mircea_popescu: phf i suspect he's young ; in any case excitable. give the man a moment.
erlehmann: phf i believe you misunderstand the problem
erlehmann: phf who believes people who cannot roll their own grammar can roll their own compar-virtual-boundary-thingy?
asciilifeform: phf has it.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-29 19:32 phf: (actually i'm not sure if it's the right book, but i got "hara-kiri: japanese ritual suicide" by jack stewart)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-29#1662933 << correct b00k, phf . was most interesting imho re its discussion of the ~debasement~ of proper seppuku. ☝︎
mod6: i set out to do something similar to what phf had been doing by writing some tests utilizing ffa. but then i couldn't figure out how to even make a package with function or procedure that used a generic type.
asciilifeform: btw phf i also own a ru knuth, somebody at umd threw it out once ( or perhaps died ... )
asciilifeform: phf: i dunno which edition you have, but in mine they are in latinate
asciilifeform: phf: nope
asciilifeform: phf that thing was a work of genius
mircea_popescu: phf no dude, you gotta do your homework.
asciilifeform: phf: afaik xach has all usenet posts from naggum in all public groups
asciilifeform: what did he have in there ? phf do you have the original article handy ?
asciilifeform: phf didn't ?!
mod6: phf: aha. even with qwerty on the kinesis, it still messes me up a bit now on regular staggard row layouts. i never tried alt layouts such as dvorak since a friend went through the same thing. always found himself having to switch everyone elses keyboard to dvorak just to "use" their keyboard for a minute.
asciilifeform: phf: that resembles naggum's layout