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deedbot: diana_coman rated brazilish 1 << He says he's trying to run TRB and get himself a blog.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 21:39 diana_coman: mod6, honestly, how do you see this sorted ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 21:44 asciilifeform: ( i omitted diana_coman because presumably hands full, but whoknows... diana_coman ? )
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 21:39 diana_coman: mod6, honestly, how do you see this sorted ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 21:36 diana_coman: in practice one single person has only 2 hands, that's the thing
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also then signal BingoBoingo to remove the kvm cables, the kvm box is in no real sense secure , having it plugged in for extended time is a small but definite liability
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Give me a thumbs up if you believe the box is ready for you to do your testing, and I'll invoice mircea_popescu.
asciilifeform: ( i omitted diana_coman because presumably hands full, but whoknows... diana_coman ? ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it really has to be a l1 person, and so far no takers.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we have a pretty serious shortage of skilled hands.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in principle you can make just about anyffing by hand. in practice...
mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Ben and I have been pouring over the numbers (as i'm getting an education here), and the prorated cost for the rest of July for UY3 will be: 0.03542985 BTC
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i saw one at museum, in timis
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mine - yes, iirc mod6's also, and diana_coman's << aha, mine have been good, when the hardware has been sane. so, if I can find the time still this month, I want to add that vpatch to the main vtree @ thebitcoin.foundation
asciilifeform: mine - yes, iirc mod6's also, and diana_coman's
a111: Logged on 2018-07-13 16:06 diana_coman: reporting is still a different thing
asciilifeform: diana_coman: reporting block r/w times currently requires pressing with the little patch that takes the times. ( it is not part of 'flagship' trb )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and has it stayed reliably in sync ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: didja ever post block timer readings from that node ?
shinohai: neato diana_coman, also salutations!
trinque: /cuntoo dir is what I continue to work on. vtronic portage will sit in there. when released, diana_coman can replace the whole /cuntoo dir with the final item
asciilifeform: diana_coman can delete if she needs the ~1GB .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ty for putting it in the log, i'd like to find the answer to the riddle.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we'll have to ask BingoBoingo to open the lid and inspect the lights on both FG .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when diana_coman gives the signal that box is good to work, can remove kvm snakes and boot stick.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: at the risk of pedantry -- all of the pasted items, other than (4) , exist on your box's disk , exactly as pasted.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aite. do not hesitate to ask, if the purpose of particular change , or anything else, is unclear.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: remember, we are also helping trinque to perfect his cuntoo .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know if box functions as expected. you will prolly want to install ave1's gnat . but even prior to this, can proceed with emerging eulora deps , and see which ones work under muslism .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: possibly i'm mistaken , will have to actually try the new vtool ( and whether it can be pressed with traditional vtron ) .
asciilifeform: aa lol i forgot . diana_coman feel free to switch it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman ^
ave1: diana_coman, http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/07/10/some-branching-troubles-on-existing-v-trees/#comment-2031
asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uISuj/?raw=true and plz to confirm.
asciilifeform: 5) nic config is in /etc/conf.d/net and /etc/resolv.conf , if diana_coman wants to change the former for any reason plz talk to pizarro folk 1st
asciilifeform: the 1 non-trinquian component is the kernel, which is bitwise identical to what is on 1) dulap 2) the primary s.mg box. fortunately kernel carries own libc, musltronicity dun affect it. but the trinquian kernel src and my original config is still there, as well as my config for the iron; it is possible for diana_coman to later build the kernel with trinque's gcc, what is needed is to transform my config so that all necessary modules
asciilifeform: diana_coman: entirely musltronic, made out of http://trinque.org/2018/07/06/cuntoo-bootstrapper-preview . i am preparing a summary of all changes just nao.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 22:08 hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833385 << diana_coman that's a good point; added a note on said post. and y'know, you can just tell me directly, "hey, this is dumb, do x".
asciilifeform: mod6: when she does, plox to invoice diana_coman & co for subscription.
asciilifeform: ( if diana_coman indicates today that she wants to play with kernels, naturally leave kvm in )
asciilifeform: diana_coman ( or mircea_popescu ) plox to gpggram a ssh pubkey
asciilifeform: soooooo diana_coman , mircea_popescu , i was able to bring up the box strictly by copying over a copy of my own dulap kernel
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 13:51 asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's in the pipeline for this week. hopefully trinque's beta cuntoo actually worx.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 13:56 diana_coman: yes; I suppose it would have helped to have in the list there the move form sha to keccak
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833385 << diana_coman that's a good point; added a note on said post. and y'know, you can just tell me directly, "hey, this is dumb, do x". ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ban mask seems to already be in trinque's recipe ( i'ma add the missing flag ) ; make -j32 i will add.
asciilifeform: if diana_coman wants any of these things prior to delivery, plz to let asciilifeform know today !
asciilifeform: there's a coupla things obviously missing from the alpha cuntoo, e.g. my anti-poetteringolade ban mask, make flags for actually using the 32 cpus of the box, possibly other things. but i'ma let diana_coman add these at her leisure, box will be delivered with what is as close as possible to trinque's original item ( i'ma config the nic and that's it )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's in the pipeline for this week. hopefully trinque's beta cuntoo actually worx. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 17:59 diana_coman: asciilifeform, I get it: clone of dulap is pointless because it requires rotor-style which can be equally done on existing server; but we are talking of having a box with trinque's musltronic proto-cuntoo
hanbot: diana_coman the regrind presses here without errors with phf's vpatch. i didn't try pressing with v.pl, possibly they're incompatible...?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-10 21:41 diana_coman: no idea but fwiw I was playing with it on the rockchip; as far as I can tell both lobbes and esthlos used some previous versions; (btw esthlos can you maybe show the date of the post somewhere convenient? it's really weird to have to guess it/search for it)
mod6: how goes today diana_coman?
spyked: diana_coman, I think v.pl will press either side of the http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools tree (keccak or sha), but not both. also, re. error, vtools_fixes_static_tohex should fix it. I've also encountered the linking error in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816314 and earlier. ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is one of the few details i actually knew, re corset
asciilifeform: phf: as discussed in the recent diana_coman thread, if you want systemwide musl-anythings, gotta have a pure musl box.
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/diana_coman_payment_receipt.txt
esthlos: very interesting, thanks diana_coman and mircea_popescu
esthlos: question for diana_coman then, is where to base press to get standalone keccak, as refenced: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/18/eucrypt-chapter-6-keccak-transformations/#selection-83.46-83.153
ave1: thx diana_coman, It's now very minimal, mostly so that it can be understood as is. I'm working on adding all the code in so that at least ffa can build.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i was referencing the 'let's stand up clone of dulap' variant, strictly.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: you are aware that the only means of testing a musltronic build of your proggy + deps on a conventional (glibc) box, is the rotor method, yes
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:43 diana_coman: so then it would seem this is the best available option currently: asciilifeform can I have trinque's cuntoo on that machine when it's available?
asciilifeform: as i understand, diana_coman's system calls for the troo 'single gcc' toolchain, i.e. ave1's
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:43 diana_coman: so then it would seem this is the best available option currently: asciilifeform can I have trinque's cuntoo on that machine when it's available?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you mean other than because it dun require pizarro provision a box ?
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:35 trinque: diana_coman: I have updated the script you last tried, such that it again works. What I have not completed is the v-tree which is to replace imperial portage.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the point remains, though. given that apparently we both misread the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828010 line, it may actually be entirely spurious to get a box and build on it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i understand, it would not be a wasted effort , given as if a musl-incompatibility is revealed , diana_coman can go straight to patching it, working in parallel with trinque's finishing touches on cuntoo
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> afaik that passes. diana_coman did it ? <- yes for eulora-server code itself
asciilifeform: diana_coman: strictly in that we do not yet have an operating musltronic cuntoo.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if this were my system, i'd build'em rotor-style ( using existing rotor script, add e.g. mysql to the deps set )
mircea_popescu: afaik that passes. diana_coman did it ?
asciilifeform: this is actually testable on diana_coman's existing box, all it requires is to set up ( as i understand, diana_coman already has ) ave1's gcc toolchain , in user homedir
mircea_popescu: diana_coman has been tickling it for the past 2-6 weeks.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:35 trinque: diana_coman: I have updated the script you last tried, such that it again works. What I have not completed is the v-tree which is to replace imperial portage.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i understand there are exactly two variants : 1) waitloop on trinque to declare his item as ready for battlefield test 2) asciilifeform bakes an exact clone of existing s.mg gentoo ( really, dulap-iii's gentoo )
asciilifeform: it is however my current understanding that diana_coman wants a trinque cuntoo install. this means that trinque gotta give the signal and supply with what to install -- and ideally prior to going on his vacation.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman subjectively easily. for the obvious reason : because they perceive no alternative.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if no answer from ben_vulpes in day or 2, i'ma have to ctrl-C that loop and take over reactor controls, and ask mod6 to make good on his offer to sell his spare ssd's, currently kept in the bilge, to pizarro, and then give the signal to BingoBoingo to install it in diana_coman's auxiliary box.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman are these ics ? or ye olde resistors capacitors etc ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc ben_vulpes's last gasp, prior to disappearing into his unfortunate sabbatical, was to ship disks.
deedbot: diana_coman paid lobbes invoice 3
trinque: diana_coman: did you mean !!pay-invoice ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well, possibly no-number not implemented yet! am i being helpful yet ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-04 08:37 diana_coman: uhm, weird stuff: sent the !!v on that !!pay to deedbot but no answer; and otherwise it does answer to further !!ledger (not showing the payment) -> did I mess something up there, trinque ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman semantics might've just changed, see log
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q1/diana_coman_payment_receipt.txt
deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.00003793 << http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/diana_coman.txt
deedbot: lobbes canceled diana_coman invoice 2
lobbes: diana_coman: ah yup. right you are. Error on my record-keeping end. I'll cancel that one and issue a new one later tonight
a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 22:21 diana_coman: !!pay-invoice lobbes 1
deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.00003889 << http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q1/diana_coman.txt http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/diana_coman.txt
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q2/diana_coman.txt
mircea_popescu: see that diana_coman ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman bwahaha.
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman was writing a sane replacement for this item, slowly
asciilifeform: ( and i recall several diana_coman articles on subj, nao )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'crystalspace' is 3d lib ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman has the whole list if you're curious.