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ben_vulpes: > i haven't tried this test yet << and you don't know that it only works on the feeble minded, literally anyone else is going to see exactly what you're doing and give the canned response that you want: "the patriarchy keeps women down and what is really called for is demoting and docking mens wages, and promoting science education for little girls, and generally eradicating the constructed gender binary so ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, if your ;; is followed by 8kb of text this breaks something ?
ag3nt_zer0: it was a month ago so don't have the specifics anymore but system was telling me that i needed a number of libs... I dl'ed and installed but the libs later in sequence were telling me they needed the earlier libs which were already supposedly installed. I tried the process several times and am happy to do it again if you think this is the best way but I was thinking maybe ubuntu isn't the most pragmatic for this?
danielpbarron: yeah i don't know how else to put it
danielpbarron: ReadErr, i don't know that we want to "overthrow" the usg. more like, do our own thing in opposition to them, and eventually hang the bureaucrats
phf: "doctor, will i be able to play violin after surgery?" "i don't see why not" "are you sure?" "i'm certain" "that's odd, i couldn't play violin before"
mircea_popescu: nothwithstanding that bb opened the pot talk, there's the problem that if i want to point to something to explain what you do to an innocent third party, i don't know where to, gabriel_laddel
ben_vulpes: not only that but it doesn't display 8 decimal places naively, and i don't care to figure out how to fixit, so it got binned on the spot.
ben_vulpes: what you think i don't shop at target because some confusion of hairshirt ethics and economics? no, they sell plastic trash, that's why i don't.
esthlos: ben_vulpes: I don't claim that people actually acted for the benefit of their lineage, but that they understood that they should
BigTexasBingo: And I decided fuck it, time to learn some Portuguese. Apparently the Brasileras don't stick around all year
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't get it, if you spent 2319 usd how can oooh i see, tangibles. so you had ~.51 worth of bitcoin is fiatola and ended with .2 worth of bitcoin in fiatola.
BingoBoingo: And the expectation at the moment is either customers ship, purchase, or otherwise negtiate a machine. At this stage I am weary on the renting, because I don't know what an acceptable machine to rent out is given the proclivity of the lords.
ben_vulpes: i don't recommend it either
trinque: that looks useful for kernel dev. I don't think you'd need it.
danielpbarron: top of what, i refreshed the blog post and i don't see a difference
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever met a kid that didn't intrinsically respect invention.
mircea_popescu: it's mindboggling, to me, you know ? EVERY fucking parent since the dawn of time told his kids "don't lie" with all sorts of dumb, dysfunctional ratonalles "you'll go to jail" "i'll beat you up" whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, i still don't know why you call blinders "blinkers"
zineKing: don't get me wrong, I'm totally onboard with the plan. But in order for a crypto to be accepted by the masses it has to be a better alternative, more efficient, than what people currently use. to me, the closest thing right now is probably ETH
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, "oh we don't know what people may plug into the bus", like it's 1979 and i go around the killer micros with syringe needles.
trinque: asciilifeform: worth a thread maybe, but I loathe the one-kernel-for-them all approach; I don't even ship my kernels with module loading enabled
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 19:59 ben_vulpes: but you say that "i have the hardware", so use that hardware. boot a bitcoin node on it and don't worry about port 80.
ben_vulpes: jawbone2: i don't purge ratings on much more than a once-every-other-quarter basis, so you've got some time
trinque: I don't find that my home ISP changes IP more than every few months, at least.
ben_vulpes: but you say that "i have the hardware", so use that hardware. boot a bitcoin node on it and don't worry about port 80. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: is there a point to that sort of spam that i don't understand?
phf: v runs with a special case of sat solver. i don't understand which part of "asdf doesn't have a sat solver" and "sat is never mentioned" is not clear. i'm saying that whatever dependency resolution is always a special case of sat. you put some contraints on it (no cirlces, etc.) and then you can have special case solutions.
mircea_popescu: you'll ruin my idea of romanian difficulty and i'll end up going "what, you don't get this kindergarten fare?!?!" at poor innocent slavegirls.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 03:05 esthlos: even with small C projects I start to panic when I realise I don't know how it works anymore
mircea_popescu: i don't follow the distinction ?
esthlos: even with small C projects I start to panic when I realise I don't know how it works anymore ☟︎
mircea_popescu: man at shop where they don't hjave meat said, "well, if there's not enough meat for the whole queue, i take no meat" ?
mircea_popescu: "daniel is a bot" "how can you tell it's a bot ?" "because i don;t like what it says, but let's veil this into some numerology considerations". hurr.
phf: aaaand since i don't want to think about any of this shit right now, you get a multiline born until i get to it :>
a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 17:48 phf: it's hard to say how much knuth changed over years, without knowing the man, and i don't think "for which knuth is famous" is any kind of measure. he's certainly gotten old, but i think he might also be constituionally incapable of participating in a consensus.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-27 17:39 phf: but to answer the question, i think i don't particularly mind the subtrate. man does computations, i wouldn't be too concerned if he were to switch to ipad even, because he'd still be hand writing algorithms with a certain detachment to the concerns of extras
phf: it's hard to say how much knuth changed over years, without knowing the man, and i don't think "for which knuth is famous" is any kind of measure. he's certainly gotten old, but i think he might also be constituionally incapable of participating in a consensus. ☟︎
phf: but to answer the question, i think i don't particularly mind the subtrate. man does computations, i wouldn't be too concerned if he were to switch to ipad even, because he'd still be hand writing algorithms with a certain detachment to the concerns of extras ☟︎
asciilifeform: don't be the fisherman who, say, 'i washed my hands after shitting and that day caught no fish, i think i'ma not ever again wash hands' etc.
mircea_popescu: there's still a disconnect because i don't understand what the hell you mean.
trinque: I don't see that regrinding solves it
mircea_popescu: ie, i don't expect the trb cut as described to have a trb genesis necessariyl, or even probably.
mircea_popescu: "hey, aren't you worried your shitcoin will get altcoin'd in the near future ?" "no, i am dog and i don't understand anything. vote me!"
phf: i don't remember if there was any kind of interesting insight from the resulting graph, i should revisit it..
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758742 <<< Implying I don't already do this ..... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 01:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758589 << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
shinohai: I don't think cold storage means what you think it means.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758589 << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ? ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: i baked the vpatch i'm working on by pressing to excise_hash_truncation which only works accidentally, as v.pl presses both leaves at that level (first increase_aggression_levels and then excise_hash_truncation); but i don't see a route to producing a vpatch stitching together excise_hash_truncation and increase_aggression_levels without doing something that v doesn't support like pressing multiple heads
l0de: I generally don't handle the technical elements of it
danielpbarron: i know this was discussed already but i don't see how the sha in the url helps, or for that matter posting sums in chan. if the enemy is gonna swap out the file he can swap out the hash too right?
ben_vulpes: i don't quite see the connection between NATed nodes and this max outbound connections constraint, could you elaborate?
ben_vulpes: Hssgh5337k: you could at least mention these skills; otherwise it reeks of "i'm a magical pony and YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAND"
mircea_popescu: i don't see any change in behaviour. the prb node will produce ~same % of blocks with or without.
mircea_popescu: as long as it ships with keccak i don't care what other nonsense i will never read is included by possibility.
shinohai: Did anyone here ever read the Bitcoin wallet plugin for gribble? I don't think it was updated (or in actual use anywhere!) but I think I remember axing it from jhvh1 because you could query any users balance with it.
trinque: anyhow, there's no signing auth mechanism, and I don't want to feature creep the thing. I will however change a key for anybody that demonstrates control of both.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757216 << it's the question though, i don't see any sort of self-delusion path that'd incentivize the behaviour. quo fucking prodest ? ☝︎
shinohai: Lessee, I've been here almost every day for the past ~3+ years and don't ever recall an extended server outage on irc, yet this alt-irc telegram I'm forced to use with the girls goes down at least twice monthly.
mircea_popescu: "oh, this is the bad part of town" "Why ?" "i just don't come here very often" "why not ?" "it's the bad part of town"
BingoBoingo: I have heard much "don't go to ciudad vieja en la noche"
mircea_popescu: i don't think you appreciate just how lazy even marginal girls are.
mircea_popescu: not "i'm so fucking radical i wear vintage tshirts" but "i'm so fucking radical I don't even wear anything". fuck tshirts and i don't care what ditty is on them.
Techman: I don't even know that I did it wrong lol
KutmasteR: i honestly don't know him that well
mod6: I don't have a fix ready or anything of the kind, in fact, this could be the nail in the coffin for my v.
diana_coman: it seems I also found a difference in press behaviour between asciilifeform's v99 and mod6's v: this new vpatch of mine si correctly identified as leaf and otherwise descendant of ch1_mpi.vpatch by both v ; however, when pressing ch2 vpatch, mod6's v presses this other leaf too from what I see, while asciilifeform's v99 does not press it; to me v99's behaviour seems correct but I don't know if this is something that was discussed before
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see a number in there ; be moar useful and speak the value.
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't blame the patch, only "now I have an observation which suggests touch the knob"
ben_vulpes: a) don't live there or care too much about barista fashion anymore b) already lead that charge by toting the mp01 for a few months c) wake me up when "i don't have facebook" is actually popular
phf: you want to be ready for when "i don't have a smartphone" thing is in full swing in portland. you can be a full blown hipster avantguard
phf: there's two sbcl apologists further in thread, one of them saying "I don't mind provocative /per se/, but what you were saying gives the a| impression that SBCL is willfully bad, as opposed to in development. But lumping it in with willfully noncompliant systems for this reason, | given it's version number, is inappropriate." and the other one is a core dev saying that they might add it. of course the expected behavior is still not there
phf: asciilifeform: you know after staring at a lot of bad c code and last two days worth of conversations, i don't think there's much wrong with sbcl, but then i haven't looked at sbcl code in about a year at this point. i think i was mostly objecting to overall trajectory of lisp ecosystem
trinque: mhm, I don't think the menuconfig step can be avoided for a serious kernel.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 17:43 asciilifeform: trinque: i'm particularly curious re how you trimmed modules. many crapolade modules don't give any obvious indication that they are useless, there is no mechanism for generating a list of 'THESE we actually need, because of the installed iron, and these -- not'
danielpbarron: you liked 1408?? i don't like that guy
sonic3: yea, don't let me keep you, i feel like i've jumped into a bigger picture here
mircea_popescu: (there's a major but poorly understood and never discussed advantage of the log, in that it empowers my very "eccentric" except fundamental "i don't remember any names" [ http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704118 and http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/#footnote_0_76425 both references] : by being released from the need to preserve history myself, i can radically cut items which empowers heuristics not otherwise acc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it is a very naive notion this, "i don't need to, i understand". you, odds aren, don't, and this isn't something to be ashamed of.
phf: well, that goes back to the meaning question. with code i don't get ascii codes as ints and then have to paper out the actual text before i can work out meaning. in fact what i do put on paper is almost never related to the written code itself. in the case of mechanical graphics though, my first step is ascii-to-characters
mircea_popescu: "no i don't need to" "why do you think this ?" "stop bothering me, troll."
phf: mircea_popescu: i think the differ and rendered for the ~diffs~ is significantly different from what our current foundation is. so in principle i don't see an issue with svg, as long as you can get the ~diff~ out of the vpatch itself, rather than say, pressing original, pressing new and then eyeballing the differences.
mircea_popescu: trinque exactly my tho9ughts. "i don't want to go there. yet."
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 06:18 mircea_popescu: but yes, this comes with the necessity of considering eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751602 as "a coin has been minted" ; i don't see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753931 as anything other than an abstract rendering of the exact practical reality
danielpbarron: i don't know about arbitrary quantities, i'm sure asciilifeform would say the price spikes if you try to buy more than 10
mircea_popescu: but yes, this comes with the necessity of considering eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751602 as "a coin has been minted" ; i don't see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753931 as anything other than an abstract rendering of the exact practical reality ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't mean here what rando-idiot thinks those are. i mean the actual article,
mircea_popescu: i don't want a different flavour of footshooting musket.
phf: but i don't go into the details there either
mircea_popescu: the ~other~ part of it is : suppose (i don't have example ready, but constructively) there's a N that popped into factors f1... fm.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i follow.
esthlos: I don't have anything specific in mind
mircea_popescu: which is why the whole "men will do anything to get some" social fiction, with it's attendant "surprises" of the thoroughly fabricated sort, "i can't believe far far away somewhere in like japan they don't". gotta mask the bitter truth that ~woman~ will do anything to get some. literal anything.
mircea_popescu: i dobn't get it, you READ the orc langs but don't hear them ?
mircea_popescu: "i don't know any people in power, why would the guy hiring me"
esthlos: mircea_popescu: as to quantum computers, I don't know a whole lot about quantum, but i believe that an information-theoretic approach to spacetime is the best bet to quantize it