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asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/06/how-the-tor-project-pays-and-pays-cia-agents-from-their-usg-navy-coffers/#comment-62660 << lulzy
mircea_popescu: brb ima liquidate my doge profits buy some more scamtokens from usg tools!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492457 << so basically, as part of its ongoing cold war against insufficiently-pliable torvalds, the usg through its usg.twitter agency... repurposed what it claims to be "linus' account", ie, a voodoo doll they made for him. and this somehow is supposed to reflect on the man ? why, because we're all from the great nation of africa and ergo fucktarded in the brain ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: dude, i'll discuss whoever i please. ESPECIALLY some usg tool that meanwhile took posturing lessosn.
deedbot: [Qntra] How The Tor Project Pays And Pays CIA Agents From Their USG.Navy Coffers - http://qntra.net/2016/06/how-the-tor-project-pays-and-pays-cia-agents-from-their-usg-navy-coffers/
mircea_popescu: usg agent wondering if the actual people fighting the usg are a "cointelpro style" "attack" ?
mircea_popescu: eh, nah. usg only has strike units. give it 18 hours, can reclaim passively.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 21:04 phf: asciilifeform: not at all 100% usg, that's why there was the west coast symbolics media lab, also government didn't stop buying, the contracts were bringing revenue well into the endof90s (i mean still do, but now it's life support peanuts)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491436 << i think there's some merit to this view. usg wasn't nearly as important as asciilifeform thinks it even in the 80s. ☝︎
asciilifeform: media lab == usg.
phf: asciilifeform: not at all 100% usg, that's why there was the west coast symbolics media lab, also government didn't stop buying, the contracts were bringing revenue well into the endof90s (i mean still do, but now it's life support peanuts) ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: that the market consisted ~100% of usg, and that it stopped buying, and the commitments smbx was locked into spending-wise remained, and bankrupted it - is not mega-seekrit.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:38 Framedragger: but to suggest that folk from within are in on it, as in usg agents whatnot, is bull. i know that in terms of effects there may not be much of a difference, but whenever you say "prolly controlled burn by those idiots", i want to smack you because those friends are not dumb at all.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:45 Framedragger: did you ever run a god damn tor browser? you prolly didnt because usg. it has banners and warnings all over. what else can one do. they're transparent about the bugs (incl upstream firefox) etc. not saying that i'd use tor for important things now.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:38 Framedragger: but to suggest that folk from within are in on it, as in usg agents whatnot, is bull. i know that in terms of effects there may not be much of a difference, but whenever you say "prolly controlled burn by those idiots", i want to smack you because those friends are not dumb at all.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-26 15:35 Framedragger: if you mean that > 50% of funding comes from usg and that it was initially funded by navy research lab, yes
Framedragger: did you ever run a god damn tor browser? you prolly didnt because usg. it has banners and warnings all over. what else can one do. they're transparent about the bugs (incl upstream firefox) etc. not saying that i'd use tor for important things now. ☟︎
asciilifeform: which upgrades them to usg stoolies in my book.
Framedragger: but to suggest that folk from within are in on it, as in usg agents whatnot, is bull. i know that in terms of effects there may not be much of a difference, but whenever you say "prolly controlled burn by those idiots", i want to smack you because those friends are not dumb at all. ☟︎☟︎
Framedragger: if you mean that > 50% of funding comes from usg and that it was initially funded by navy research lab, yes ☟︎
asciilifeform: tor is a usg operation.
mircea_popescu: pretty good privacy, it's an asymmetric crypto scheme. allows you to keep secrets from, say, the nsa. and also to maintain a solid identity - unlike, say, usg identity papers.
mircea_popescu: i guess so. plenty of "lysenkoist" dudes were as convinced of the entire shitstack as yarvin is convinced the usg will survive.
mircea_popescu: of course meta-rational is a thing. but sovereign reason is a very different thing from mere "reason" as peddled by the feminine usg & friends.
mircea_popescu: anyway asciilifeform , the usg.desperation should be palpable, if they're scraping the barrel so close to the wood they've dredged up curtis yarvin, even.
mircea_popescu: you hear that ? judge says, hacking usg computers fair game.
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/UScxs << oh look, now that they got scared into actually doing some code auditing by the half billion in losses the usg accrued in one short week, they're finding things!
mircea_popescu: o right right, "ukraine forum on asset recovery", the usg-sponsored "let's steal shit" argentina-style thing
mircea_popescu: not like he'd have existed if there wasn't a usg.pd around. or a usg in the first place.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 17:33 asciilifeform: usg coin has 100% usg-compliant minerz? nyooz at 11.
asciilifeform: usg coin has 100% usg-compliant minerz? nyooz at 11. ☟︎
trinque: that'd be quite a lot of people being usg agents claiming to witness him shooting people
asciilifeform: cheaper still considering that usg will pin ALL of the corpses on mr snackbar.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:28 Framedragger: there was a post about statistical/ML approach vs. (one of) rule-based approach(es) just recently, i haven't read it yet, http://norvig.com/chomsky.html (inb4 ad hominem alf's norvig iz usg pawn :P )
Framedragger: there was a post about statistical/ML approach vs. (one of) rule-based approach(es) just recently, i haven't read it yet, http://norvig.com/chomsky.html (inb4 ad hominem alf's norvig iz usg pawn :P ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and yes, the google "ai" rule based bs is giving a bad name to all this, but abstracting the usg.idiots for a second, before we throw out the bath
mircea_popescu: usg has to date paid 100s of ransoms.
asciilifeform: usg will pay 1, 2 ransoms
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487823 << mr mold correctly identified academia as one of 3 pillars of 'the cathedral' (lizard enforcers) - the other 2 being the controlled press, and usg civil service proper ☝︎
ascii_deadfiber: if narcos ever nailed a usg boat with bazooka, it was successfully censored from anywhere i might hear of it.
ascii_deadfiber: at this point 'looks like starwars' is probably de-facto design criterion for 100% of usg mil iron
mircea_popescu: no, it's just that if you write down the historical trade losses of usg agents to date, etherape figures way towards the top. this is more than, say, gaddafi ever managed.
mircea_popescu: the etherape easily figures in the top 50 most costly mistakes of usg agencies to date.
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber anyway, back to the topic of bleeding the usg : you understand that the largest loss in its history was ~10bn via MS on the subprime crap. this is already percents of that.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 12:04 ascii_deadfiber: and it isn't as if usg BUYS btc anyway
ascii_deadfiber: net pipe situation in usa is astonishing. when i was at $rupturefarm... this was a 'beltway bandit', usg contracting shop with princely budget, building had gilded doorknobs and other nonsense, but net was 'comcast' gas modem.
ascii_deadfiber: meaning, somehow available to usg only ?
ascii_deadfiber: and it isn't as if usg BUYS btc anyway ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 06:07 mircea_popescu: anyway. the lulz has cost usg more turkey dollars than mit has cost usg this year. that's an accomplishment right there, they could have made ten thousand hookers and fifty thousand "aides" happy for that money. this means 10k angry hookers and 50k passive-agressive pencildicks extra to deal with.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 05:49 pete_dushenski: in other usg news, "Trump campaign expenses in May, per FEC report: Hats: $208k. Online advertising: $115k. Data management: $48k. Communications consulting: $38k"
mircea_popescu: anyway. the lulz has cost usg more turkey dollars than mit has cost usg this year. that's an accomplishment right there, they could have made ten thousand hookers and fifty thousand "aides" happy for that money. this means 10k angry hookers and 50k passive-agressive pencildicks extra to deal with. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: in other usg news, "Trump campaign expenses in May, per FEC report: Hats: $208k. Online advertising: $115k. Data management: $48k. Communications consulting: $38k" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and this is the point : they keep pushing the "debate" to bury this point. usg wants people to actually believe "civilisation is good for you ; and please don't look at how EVERY SINGLE TIME the barbarian rapes the colon"
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber make some falsifiable prediction and attach an "i will forever renounce my heretic views about the usg mattering in any sense" to it already.
mircea_popescu: it's not the dao that's fucked. on the battlefield of the future, which is right here, the usg.vc idiots got raped and their bowels strung out to dry on fences, and now the hot core of usgism, mit & cornell and all are fighting for dear life
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:04 asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works'
mircea_popescu: the difference between those two and this third is instructive and important : in those instances, the usg was trying to spin a narrative that'd allow it to claim it's still alive and relevant, in front of proof to the contrary from ~already established accounts~. ie, satoshi.
mircea_popescu: then there was the whole craig whatever incident. where the usg assets in bitcoin (gavin & all) swore as to the authenticity of a gross fake.
mircea_popescu: now, the usg assets in bitcoin (gavin & all) didn't like this, and whined about the signature. so i said : swear it ain't so. in writing. they... didn't.
mircea_popescu: in the new normal of usg agents, "you only say something if it benefits you". so they don't see the point of saying "we lost it all", because what's in it for them ?
mircea_popescu: the cheek of the usg agents, you know. "legal system" czar gave them the note signed by hitler, they perceive responsibility as a thing of the past.
pete_dushenski: the usg.mit h8 is everywhere. fuck even the shiny glowing untouchable uncriticisable aapl is getting flamed... from their own fanbois no less.
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a LOT of hate for usg/mit/vit-alik butt-erin/doa/etc out there.
asciilifeform: these are all plugged into the usg mains
mircea_popescu: in any case : a marginally acceptable definition of "palace economy" is : tax over 50% of gdp. by this rule the usg, eu etc qualify. nothing else in the world does.
mircea_popescu: point in case : there isn't a 1% as much bitcoin-culture in all the usg.mit, usg.whartever sponsored "teams" and "think tanks" and etc of what's here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the situation at the time is very much reminiscent of the current usg palace economy. one warrior is more than a match for many thousand "upstanding citizens". if seven ships worth 1k people sporting kalash with infinte ammo landed on us west coast, which consisted of "start-up culture" only, the result would be very much what happened at the end of the bronze age, or for that matter at the end of the aztec empire.
asciilifeform: if usg were bleeding turkey dollars, the successive iterations of altpump would lose vigour.
mircea_popescu: well no but it's part of the asciilifeform apodicticology, "nothing that ever happens could disrupt usg".
asciilifeform: in other lulz, usg is pumping air back into eth ?
asciilifeform: and yes, 'them crackpots are crayzeeeee' - for same reason as the folks shooting at usg are. because after 100 yrs of 'we control vertical and horizontal' only the nuts are left to resist.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-18 17:24 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re alts from earlier thread, seems like usg already just now picked successor turdcoin: https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2016/06/17/st-awards-199k-austin-based-factom-inc-iot-systems-security
asciilifeform: an interesting exercise, for patient folks, is to follow the usg tendrils backwards in time, observing what subjects had been dealt with by seeding public forum with crank bait, long before 'blocksizs wars' etc.
asciilifeform: (largely propagated by naturally-occurring idiots, but usg wins from their existence and sometimes throws a bone, ensuring that their voice will be loud and clear in any nominally 'deviant' forum)
mircea_popescu: kinda the strategy of that mini usg, "find pliable idiots in all fields, promote them, get payola when/if nsa needs some planting done"
asciilifeform: usg muppets are somewhat like roaches, except peculiarly intelligent ones which ~know about ddt~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re alts from earlier thread, seems like usg already just now picked successor turdcoin: https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2016/06/17/st-awards-199k-austin-based-factom-inc-iot-systems-security ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 14:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform next, watch the usg agents derping about how "cryptocurrency is dead because our shitscheme imploded" ; and once that goes nowhere, watch them come back to bitcoin to "fix" the "consensus problems" it "has".
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-strike-idUSKCN0Z306L << and lately USG helps Al Qaeda / ISIS to what end? presumably to light a fire all along the southern border of Russia.
mircea_popescu: there's no good way to distinguish sheer stupidity from randomness. the usg is ~about this dumb irl.
mircea_popescu: the ~only solution is, obviously, a withdrawal of the usg inside its borders. which has been happening and is accelerating.
mircea_popescu: this allows mp to turkey-ize the fake dollars, by denying a market to the usg agentura.
asciilifeform: in urbit's case, usg (in its andreessen horowitz face) is paying to keep a dozen bois fed ('press the clown face for a food pellet') and housed (subsidies to silicon valley land racket.) so about 1/1000th of a google.
mircea_popescu: this is currently, and for as long as it'll last, a black hole in the usg budget to parallel the f-35 airplane-coffeemaker-submarine combo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform usg.mit a further 20mn in the hole. an' the volume keeps on growing lolz.
mircea_popescu: awww! but ethereum continues to drop ? i thought the usg.mit.mongoloid party had "infinite funds"! !!!
mircea_popescu: mno, it was ripple v2.0, "usg must have a horse in the race".
asciilifeform: i dun get it. chumps bought in, usg (via shill exchanges) collected usd, btc, in return for shitcoin. that is now worth 0. what does usg lose ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. so they're in well over 100 fake mn by now. what's the usg.mit budget for propping up the scamcoin ? any guesses ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me loves how teh usg is spending its crap fiat to try and prop up a crap altcoin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform next, watch the usg agents derping about how "cryptocurrency is dead because our shitscheme imploded" ; and once that goes nowhere, watch them come back to bitcoin to "fix" the "consensus problems" it "has". ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 10:16 mircea_popescu: in other pokemon/ethereum/andreas poponautikos/mit shit labs/us democratic party/usg news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/ba9127e8cfc8b70a3ad1f32205a028df/tumblr_o46s3qwJ271sd8n5oo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: in other pokemon/ethereum/andreas poponautikos/mit shit labs/us democratic party/usg news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/ba9127e8cfc8b70a3ad1f32205a028df/tumblr_o46s3qwJ271sd8n5oo1_500.gif ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i do not have use for as much as a rotten end of a thread from usg. you follow this concept ?
mircea_popescu: not so. so far they're paying through the nose, a good two thirds of anything their subjects consume being the usg's own contribution.
asciilifeform: hence the resurrected 'missile shield' derpage - usg is again seeing the appeal of first strike
mircea_popescu: "usg runs a racket ; tmsr runs a ratchet."
asciilifeform: usg is at this very moment attempting a cleave of 'socialism fails'
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this may be the most idiotic cockroach implanted by usg in programmer heads, "save time by not reading"
mircea_popescu: and how ? for one thing, "usg" scarcely mattered at the time. for the other, thebrits denied the russians their ports.