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mircea_popescu: we are currently entering the loop twice, and we enter a total of 22 loops. therefore the number of times serpent is run is 2 ^ 22.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 14:24 diana_coman: asciilifeform, one! and look here at times: 1 loop -> 0.000168893 s ; 2 loops -> 0.007213758 s ; 3 loops -> 0.351611073 s ; 4 loops -> 17.74 s ; 5 loops-> 879.95 s
mircea_popescu: for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 loops respectively as reported in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-13#1895666 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: except the other set converged, look : 3.37786e-06 2.8855032e-06 2.812888584e-06 2.8384e-06 2.81584e-06
diana_coman: 0.3 vs 2.8? ugh
mircea_popescu: on the basis of the previous timings you reported, we estimated it ~2.8 microseconds
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc 1.259 / (2**22)
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc 1.259 / (2**21)
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc 1.259 / (2**23)
mircea_popescu: turns out a serpent takes about 2.8 microseconds.
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc (2**23)
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc (2**21)
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.81584e-06
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.8384e-06
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.812888584e-06
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 2.8855032e-06
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc 0.007213758 / (50**2)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman idea was to go twice per loop, rather than 1nce. 2 will go in too many times still
diana_coman: uhm, 2
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc 2 ** 21
diana_coman: asciilifeform, one! and look here at times: 1 loop -> 0.000168893 s ; 2 loops -> 0.007213758 s ; 3 loops -> 0.351611073 s ; 4 loops -> 17.74 s ; 5 loops-> 879.95 s ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-02-02 06:39 mircea_popescu: Daryush Valizadeh,[1] (born June 14, 1979)[2] also known as Roosh V and Roosh Vorek, is an American[3] writer, pick-up artist5 and self-styled "love tourist"[6] of Iranian and Armenian descent,[7] known for his writings on seduction and antifeminism.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in n00b school, http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2019-2-13#461543
asciilifeform: ( fwiw i (and other ru warez folk) like ancient at&t 'djvu' format, it is moar or less jpeg with optional ocr searchable track. a 300MB pdf turd becomes a 2-3MB djvu. )
asciilifeform: ( at which point, the job of the proggy is to 1) tell operator ~which~ iron smoked 2) come to full stop, failing 'deadly' or 'safe' depending on design context )
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 14:05 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eucrypt's test on Serpent seem good candidates as one can even adjust how many iterations to do if you want some specific time intervals; current full test of the serpent module (including i/o because of using test vectors in file) is reported by time at ~2.3s without sjlj; this has no tasks/exceptions as such;thing is: time is not extremely precise but I could run I suppose some 1k times and see
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eucrypt's test on Serpent seem good candidates as one can even adjust how many iterations to do if you want some specific time intervals; current full test of the serpent module (including i/o because of using test vectors in file) is reported by time at ~2.3s without sjlj; this has no tasks/exceptions as such;thing is: time is not extremely precise but I could run I suppose some 1k times and see ☟︎
diana_coman: I suppose so far the options seem to be 1. maybe there's a way to actually make it choose the sane abort model 2. change the idiotic "ignore the signal" part
mod6: ok CDROM power & SATA cable unplugged from SATA channel 2, and plugged into 250Gb WD SSD.
mod6: It's strange because this particular box has like 10 USB ports on it. 2 in the front of the chassis, and like 8 in the back. I wonder if it's like a special add-on thing, I was going to take some pictures for you all, but I need to get down there and do that yet tonight.
asciilifeform: i dun think there were that many recorded ( can only think of 2 right off memory )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's 2 'symbiotic' sets of africans involved, 'voodoo' and 'hoodoo' practitioners, if you will
asciilifeform: phf et al : 1 of asciilifeform's ancient backburner crackpotteries is... an iron x terminal. ( these -- existed, but would be imho useful to have a proper one, that 1) runs off rom 2) can drive N large displays )
BingoBoingo: Right, especially as after dropping the implied rate for take 2 and keeping that rate through takes 3 and 4 the spread between a low price not getting bids and what local liquidity is offering have grown.
mircea_popescu: e produce $2 million dollars per hour" ; apparently nobody fucking there bothered to EVER confront http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656097 or http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-15#1684170 etcetera. ☝︎☝︎
mod6: But that's what I've got now. 2 250Gb SSDs with Cuntoo on them, neither boot, and now a 500Gb Gentoo disk that has worked perfectly up until just this very moment, which also doesn't boot.
mircea_popescu: shinohai just because a buncha kids take 2-3 ppm of hash and play with it, by cutting it into as many various boxes with labels on them (which are now "things" dontchaknow) as the square of the kiddypool headcount mean nothing. that's how industry works, back when the parents were atthe foundry making nails, kiddies had bits and segments of nails in all the pockets to play with.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what is your idea here, "cuntoo comes with gtk 2 and firefox 40" ?!
mircea_popescu: on the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894536 boxes i have frozen gtk 2 ; it then permits firefox up to i don't recall, FORTY-something ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct, it's a 2-step process, first gotta find what yer iron actually needs re kernelisms
asciilifeform: lol why not put'em on e.g. os/2
mod6: not 10 full days, but certainly 10 days of approx. 2 hour sessions each day. i've been hooking up null modem cables to capture kernel panics... i've taken to hacking trinque's scripts, just about everything to try to conquer this type of error:
lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 2 days, 15 hours, and 19 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ODjpO/?raw=true << Credentials for AMD64 box
BingoBoingo: Indeed. Yet I suspect doing a heathen gentoo on the spinning disk will provide a valuable point of contrast Cuntoo. There's 2 kinds of steps you can insert into a process beyond the minimum. Educative ones where you explore the space gathering experience which may be useful later. The other kind are pure friction a la SOPS.
mircea_popescu: also this style where the quotes are 2.5x the text in comments is for the fish.
BingoBoingo: Well Paraguay is either #1, #2 or #3 in the world and Paraguay isn't your almost neighbor
nicoleci: whats so great about new harmony? a few extra farms? tractor exhibit? 2 kfc buffets?!
BingoBoingo: McKendree went on a Bond Binge 2 years after I left, still binging. i suspect the landing will suck.
BingoBoingo: In undergrad when Bush 2 was President my roommates and myself experimented with all sorts of "not torture" USG tech
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894020 << wonder if anyone sells condom where 2 layers of rubber, and between'em -- capsaicin. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in teeth and claw, today "burning bob beck" exhibit 1: the hotlinkers at google: https://archive.is/yKcpC exhibit 2: the out of WoT but tin women free DDG https://archive.is/PJvE4
BingoBoingo: ^ Auction take 2
asciilifeform: i recall pulling the magnets from the motors ( 2!111 of'em ) of that thing.
BingoBoingo found a couple 160GB rust spinners going through the luggage, one of them can be repurposed to keep hanbot from having to work off of USB 2.0
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ye olde 'doom' , complete with 32bit emm thingie, weighed, what, 2,3mb
asciilifeform: but d00d was , idk, 80+ y.o., and forgot what step 2 was...
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893054 -> that must be THE way to learn languages: 2 at a time, russian+ada in one go to not feel like wasting time ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma get to it at some pt. currently hands full with 1) ffa 16b & 17 2) looking into to whom we gotta http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892227 3) speccing components for 2nd rk plant ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'ma stick to 2 unless somebody suggests a viable 3.
asciilifeform: #2 beats 1, at least economizes log space.
mircea_popescu: seems both produce the same amt of noob, ie , 0, but 2 produces less negratings. still better neh ?
mircea_popescu: but let's compare outcomes. 1) alf talks to noob, elides any mention of republic, noob passes whatever lite-qualifications, comes here, gets negrated ; 2) alt talks to noob, mentions republic, noob runs off screaming.
mircea_popescu: 2) none of those other cells like intestinal cillia, or muscle smooth and striated, or neuron, axon, whatever does anything measurable to enlarge the spleen. 3) thus therefore it can be concluded that properly speaking, the only things growing spleen are the spleen itself.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 16:22 mircea_popescu: think of the whole opposability angle, will you. 1. alf : "your summaries suck" 2. bimbo "master, is this true ?" now i'm stuck. i'm not going to do a 3.b. "yes, because i like him" and i can't do a 3.a. "yes, because ~SOMETHING~" as the something's an undefined symbol.
asciilifeform: typical 'type 2' failure is, e.g., 'wayland'
asciilifeform: 'stop using' is generally the correct solution to all sortsa problem. trick is that you gotta 1) ~actually stop~ 2) not immediately replace the excised idjicy with a new one
asciilifeform: seems like verisimilitude has visited previously, but nao is getting into adaism via ffa ( http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform?d=2019-2-5#458157 )
asciilifeform: most victims of this type of 'education' carry only 1 or 2 nervous ticks, e.g. paren-phobia , into adulthood
a111: Logged on 2019-02-02 18:08 asciilifeform: and it dun strike me as somehow outlandish that in cn they've played the tape 3-4 times, while in europistan 1-2.
asciilifeform: right; so why would it not produce same output b/w 2 invocations
asciilifeform: trinque: possibly i'm thick, but how come they can turn out to differ at all b/w 2 installs ? does it munge'em at install time programmatically somehow ?
asciilifeform: if you want to do , e.g., 4096bit rsa, needs iron with at least 256kB of ram . and 2 serial ports, 1 on which to hang FG, other for operator i/o. that's moar or less it, in re minimal iron req'd.
asciilifeform: for ffa , the only os knobs you need are 1) a means for getting commandline string 2) equiv. of putchar 3) equiv. of getchar 4) a means to read bytes from a FG .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1891970 << afaik built to date on 2 platforms total ( if anyone did a 3rd, not yet reported in the l0gz ) -- x64 and arm64. both replicated in asciilifeform's torture room, the former in regular use . thing builds strictly static+musltronic bins, it aint even knob-adjustable (which is as it oughta be imho) . ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'm not even sure which of the 2 boxes one would put jp in -- they copied eurostan to the point that hirohito wore ~same clothes as mircea_popescu is wearing nao
mircea_popescu: confronted with the unfatomable depths of male diversity (as promised to be unfathomable by http://trilema.com/2017/the-boundless-burden/#selection-195.0-195.18 ), the female herd (and it is always a herd) has precisely two possible avenues open to it : either a) http://trilema.com/2013/whore-strat/ or else b) http://trilema.com/2016/brexit-grexit-departugal-italeave-czechout-finish-oustria-latervia-byegium/#footnote_2_67054
asciilifeform: 'you say multiplication on integers commutes, but whata load of rubbish, somewhere in resplenduminous-land betcha there's 2 where it doesn't' ?
asciilifeform: wat do if set 2 is empty ?
asciilifeform: and it dun strike me as somehow outlandish that in cn they've played the tape 3-4 times, while in europistan 1-2. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'just like us' is not an implied hypothesis ( if to take cn at face value, they pissed on the electric fence 3, 4 times, europistan , 1-2 )
asciilifeform: !A .3 $x .2 $y xyR* #
asciilifeform: !A .3 $x .2 $y xy* _#
asciilifeform: !A .3 $x .2 $y xy* #
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking also, when we bake batch of 'FG 2' or etc., can include radiographs of virginal pcb for extra fee
mircea_popescu: speaking of money, spent all day on huge harem shopping trip. i am now in possession of picture including bimbo on 8 inch platforms holding the ~$2.70 receipt for them.
mircea_popescu: or, in the immortal words of a ~very typical~ (if coincidentally naive enough orc as to be plain about it), http://trilema.com/2014/the-disadvantages-of-living-among-idiots/#selection-59.2-59.124
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 16:10 asciilifeform: imho the only possible arg against it is if you have e.g. 2 hands but 500 worth of process. but evidently jurov , trinque , et al had <= 2 hands worth
asciilifeform: ch10 i expect typical reader will want cup of coffee; 14 - 2 cups.
asciilifeform: imho the only possible arg against it is if you have e.g. 2 hands but 500 worth of process. but evidently jurov , trinque , et al had <= 2 hands worth ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's hard to imagine you're in a 20mn strong stockyards sprawling 2-3x the surface area of new york
asciilifeform: i find it mind-boggling that 'biological deficit'. where , for instance, did the 2+mil germans go ?
asciilifeform: ^ 343413 is smallest composite for which 2 and 3 are liars
asciilifeform: !A .14f5d5 .2 P #
asciilifeform: !A .bfa17dc7 .2 P #
BingoBoingo: Appears more NeeBee'd, contrary to implications in the Anglophone media that ~1.2 billion USD in gold (why not cite the thing in its own unit of measure) is all the gold, Vzla mines gold
asciilifeform: for instance, 1 'obvious' approach, 2 geigers equidistant from a capsule of radwaste -- also aint it -- you can never actually make the distances equal. ( it's mircea_popescu's 'clocks' thrd all over again, the 'frictionless horse' is not available )
asciilifeform: 2.541s / 4096b. input.
asciilifeform: fwiw a standard commercial cesium clock sells 2ndhand for about 2/3 of what bolix did..
asciilifeform: answr't^2.
asciilifeform: re fishes -- ru folklore notably contains ~2~ wish-granting fish stories : 1, the internationally familiar one, where old fishwife keeps ramping up the wishitude until she overflows the register and gets fucked; and ~other~, where young lad knows how to use the fish, and gets half of kingdom , via http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14#1841561 process ☝︎