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mircea_popescu: or to any approach that includes anyone but
apple making money.
ben_vulpes:
apple is pretty much anathema to the #b-a approach to compute.
mircea_popescu: i briefly considered adding an
apple apps thing for s.mg
ben_vulpes: we've been looking into the
apple "enterprise deployment" story of late
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 21:56:58; decimation: on the other hand, perhaps
apple is just trying to 'enumerate goodness' in its 'forced wot'
mircea_popescu:
apple "open" : we'll give you some fiction to read while the thing boots ?
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2015 21:47:01; decimation: the developer in question had already made a deal with
apple to publish the app apparently. I couldn't even compile my own version unsigned for my own personal use
pete_dushenski: several ways to skin cat, hard to argue that any involve
apple decimation: the argument being that even if every 'middle class' person in the world purchased a new
apple device they would still only be 'holding steady'
trinque: decimation: the
apple watch gadget etc
decimation: I recently heard an argument that
apple's only recourse to 'grow' its revenue stream is to sell super-luxury goods
pete_dushenski: if
apple has a slave harem, they win the award for 'dumbest slave harem'
decimation: except
apple doesn't really have a wot so much as it has a slave harem
decimation: on the other hand, perhaps
apple is just trying to 'enumerate goodness' in its 'forced wot'
☟︎ decimation: right, but
apple just wants you to know that it sees what you are doing there...
decimation:
apple could quite easily lock down osx just as hard as it locks down ios
decimation: at any rate, it does appear that with each release of osx/xcode,
apple subtlety changes what is 'allowed', without much explicit explanation
decimation: Xcode insisted that I required a paid
apple developer account before I could consider such a thing, it appears
decimation: the developer in question had already made a deal with
apple to publish the app apparently. I couldn't even compile my own version unsigned for my own personal use
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i'll build for
apple shortly after i build for 'super nintendo' << ahahaha. nintendo!
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [19:50] is anyone actually trying to build on
apple's os ? << no
danielpbarron: ftr I do not intend to acutally use
apple software; i've been putting OpenBSD on old iMacs
nubbins`: i developed an allergy to
apple skins
mats: ramtin-amin.fr/#tristar looks like
Apple Lightning has been broken
mircea_popescu: and yes alf's right, the end of moore is also the end of ms,
apple etc.
decimation: actually, since
apple controls the complete stack all the way down to silicon, they are in a unique position to actually deliever, but didn't
decimation: if you read the
apple whitepaper on the iphone 5 security, you see they play all kinds of shell games attempting to keep keys in temporary buffers so that the storage can be 'encrypted' while still able to receive texts, unlock screen, etc
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah.
apple supposedly spent years trying to make the device secure
davout: danielpbarron: iirc imacs have special disks with
apple-specific temperature sensors or w/e
danielpbarron: other than that they appear to work fine. xfce on openbsd is a nice fit with the
apple style
mircea_popescu: and for that matter,
apple also delivered to some degree. that's not the contention.
decimation: surely
apple has seen this sort of thing coming
mircea_popescu: the way foxconn is using
apple as a detachable glove / investment point is exactly copied after the manner some chinese guys used "friedcat" / asicminer.
decimation: yes apparently foxconn is doing quite well for
apple, apparently there's no need for a 'competing vendor'
decimation: mircea_popescu: except they don't MANUFACTURE anything. < it would be interesting to know how much of the manufacturing expertise lies in
apple proper vs. its chinese contractors
funkenstein_: stallman always did call
apple products handcuffs didn't he
mircea_popescu: "
apple's the world's largest buyer of some classes of items. while not the largest in any class of any import, and not the largest buyer in any sort of general perspective, one could select some items by a criteria more or less alligned with "items
apple buys" to make
apple apear like the largest buyer of items
apple buys"
mircea_popescu: "
Apple is the world's foremost manufacturer of goods. "
mircea_popescu: here's something i don't understad. so, qualcomm side : in q4 2014 it announced a 2.4 bn deal with csr plc, to deliver chips. then in q1 2015 it announced massive share buyback. from
apple side : they moved the modem chip order from qualcomm to intel. from csr site : 50mn operating profit on 1bn gross revenue.
mircea_popescu: of course... they sold ~3bn of chips last year. it may be that on the contrary, they told
apple to pack it.
decimation: no, not for
apple, but it is for qualcomm
mircea_popescu: in fairness, i suppose the burning hatred of usg and its many agencies (such as
apple) that informs us is really a very novel thing.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Loves
Apple. Only cares about source being available. Hates Linux in practice. Been keeping up the blog forever and posting rather infrequently. Almost has to be ESR.
chetty: isn't the new
apple watch thing planned that way? chip is not replaceable
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> in other news, apparently
apple released a portable machine that not only has slower cpu clock than the typical such box 5 yrs. ago - but cannot charge and use an external peripheral at the same time! << they want you to buy a thing to make more holes
ascii_field: in other news, apparently
apple released a portable machine that not only has slower cpu clock than the typical such box 5 yrs. ago - but cannot charge and use an external peripheral at the same time!
nubbins`: "As well as targeting the iPhone and iPad directly, the CIA also claims to have developed a poisoned version of Xcode, the software development tool used by app developers to create the apps sold through
Apple's hugely successful App Store. It is unclear how the CIA managed to get developers to use the poisoned version of Xcode, but it would have allowed the CIA install backdoors into any apps created using their version."
decimation: but
apple isn't in the business of making functionality
decimation: re:
apple watch < my question: did they spend an extra $10 for a temperature compensated crystal oscillator or does it have a cheapass crystal which requires constant correction
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 18:20:42; ascii_field: lol re: new
apple hardware released today being -slower- than previous
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 00:38:12; mircea_popescu: be it google or
apple, it can fucking rot. everything will have to be reimplemented.
ascii_field: lol re: new
apple hardware released today being -slower- than previous
☟︎ ben_vulpes: anyways, feds can't pull their heads out of their arses.
apple, otoh, targets you and yours specifically for pain.
ben_vulpes:
apple ships you people all the 'B' grade hardware.
mircea_popescu: well, it tried for the entire "being
apple" marketing thing.
mircea_popescu: be it google or
apple, it can fucking rot. everything will have to be reimplemented.
☟︎ sjsqd: or deal with
Apple's Aperture software
danielpbarron: you won't use
apple to literally save your life but you'll use windows to save your job.. ok..
sjsqd: I would never, ever personally use anything branded by
Apple in a million years
danielpbarron: you have
apple pay and paypal and whatever app of choice for that
decimation: asciilifeform: the devilish thing about
apple 'upgrades' is that the old versions no longer exist
BingoBoingo: But M$ in particular hit the same issues that sent
Apple away "Red Ring of Death"
BingoBoingo: Then again the PowerPC console generation came as
Apple left the architecture and IBM wanted anyone else to jsutify its continued work there