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trinque: log shows a connect attempt every 1-2sec until Mar 25 16:33:40 PST
mod6: somehow i dl'd a live cd? o.O
trinque: also PSA, ec2's firewall thing now does outbound rules too
mod6: can anyone direct me to a installable gentoo iso for x86_32
mod6: this is annoying. sorry.
trinque: boot the livecd then follow the handbook
trinque: great way to become acquainted with the internals too
mod6: we shuold just support slackware from floppy disks
trinque: boot cd -> partition drive -> untar stage3 -> build kernel -> set up grub
trinque: with some handwaving along the way
mod6: if i use aws do i get to bypass this bullshit?
trinque: otherwise those bootstrap instructions are in order
jurov: mod6 what's the problem with handbook?
mod6: i wanna just work on bitcoin, not learn the in's and out's of gentoo :P
mod6: guess i'll give it a whirl. wth.
trinque: mike_c: yeh that's the one I linked
jurov: "Starting in January 2015, we will ... cease building the 32-bit images"
mike_c: yeah, but there are still some on there
jurov: mod6 alternatively you can hire someone to configure the system *nudge* *wink*
mircea_popescu: they all sing the same song. they all sing the SAME SONG
assbot: Almost 10% more full nodes since this morning connected to the network. Over 400 more in US. Is there some sort of competition I don't know of ? : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1GoHWoX )
mircea_popescu: yeah, the competition is called "mp said the nodes are the weakest point of bitcoin, bitcoin ppls are fixing it"
mike_c: mircea_popescu: maybe not. could be a much dumber reason. "It's all one node just with 600 addresses. This is what happens when you fucking pay people to sybil attack the network."
mircea_popescu: they change the words. but the song fprever the same. no matter what happens. this is the song.
mircea_popescu: and amusingly they think it's some pop rock of the 70s.
mircea_popescu: mike_c the notion of "counting nodes" is bizarre in the first place.
mircea_popescu: ie, most infrastructure nodes i know of work on SOME SORT ofload balancing or othewr, necessarily thus exposing variable ips to the world etc.
nubbins`: <nubbins`> anyway, only counting 0.8.x and above, that's like giving a population count of every country in the world, but excluding everyone under 5 feet tall.
nubbins`: and also only measuring the head of each household
nubbins`: i didn't know you were a foodie
mike_c: do they give any justification for the version requirement?
mike_c: this retarded australian
mike_c: and/or the phoundation.
mircea_popescu: dawg... you wanna see comedy look through the foudnation voting thing. what justification ?
nubbins`: 'cause there was totally a hard fork duod.
nubbins`: because changing a config setting in a peripheral piece of software is a fork
assbot: goosegoosegoosegoose comments on TIL that when a cockroach touches a human it runs to safety to clean itself ... (
http://bit.ly/1GoLqIc )
mike_c: ah, the great accident was around that version.
nubbins`: "My husband pushes me over to the sink and shoves my head under the faucet, trying to flush it out, but every millimeter of space in my ear is full of horrific cockroach. For some reason, he pulls my pajama top off. I still ask him why, but he doesn't know. Either he didn't want my shirt to get wet, or titties."
mod6: ok so what version of stage3 are people using from the mirror? 12.1, 12.0, 11.2... ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` hey, changing the world right ? like that chick changing they into whey or w/e
mod6: jurov: lol, this is supposed be a "quick" setup and test. didn't think it'd be a three hour tour.
mod6: or have to hire a captain
mike_c: you'll be up in 5 mins.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: life's too short to read the foundation forum. i flipped the bozo bit on them, no more research required :)
nubbins`: granted, her eardrum ended up getting shredded anyway.
nubbins`: i'm sure they had at least a turkey baster
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that reddit is the most retarded shit i ever read.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu she'll have a series of novels out this year
mircea_popescu got bit by viper, chick in group sucked it out the next moment, me was fine.
nubbins`: i've never been bitten by anything more exotic than fire ants
jurov: dunno if you can get any chich to suck out the bug
mircea_popescu: "i'll lick out his asshole but fuck take that bug away from me"
trinque got ass-bit by a brown recluse once, didn't bitch as much as the story
mircea_popescu: notice that the idiots in question cost an emergency call, an er visit plus an emt visit later
mircea_popescu: plus drugs. hours out of the lives of a dozen + people, all supposedly skilled.
mircea_popescu: this is about as sustainable as a tower of liquid piss in the shape of roosevelt's wheelchair.
nubbins`: once, while on vacation, my mom got bitten on the face a couple times by some sort of spider
nubbins`: had to go to an AMERICAN HOSPITAL
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> i've never been bitten by anything more exotic than fire ants << for one thing fire ants are more exotic than vipers in carpathians. for the other, i would bet a lot more painful. poor snake's drastically overhyped
mircea_popescu: (so is scorpion, for that matter. most don't kill or anything)
nubbins`: (on jungle walk. woman in front of me says "aah! ants!" then proceeds to try brushing them off WHERE SHE STOOD)
mircea_popescu: europe is particularly mild on this shit. you get stung by the tiny polen wasps that live ther,e it's like... mk.
trinque: they drained quite a bit of death out of my asscheek and thigh
trinque: I was drugged to hell, laughing about it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24260 @ 0.00024259 = 5.8852 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends on the wasp, but not very well known really.
mircea_popescu: "apitoxin" is you know, one of those vinegars peterl analysed.
nubbins`: peptides+enzymes followed by norepinephrine followed by hyaluronidase and MCDP
nubbins`: that is to say, enzymes and more enzymes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this is something that you could pleasantly research ?
mircea_popescu: there's no way they don't have that shit in dc, with all the dumb money floating about. take the girl out for a wine tasting show once
nubbins`: wine tasting shows are hilarious
nubbins`: sommelier friend of mine has worked a few
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to go as far as to say "date a french somellier chick that can actually tell you what you ate after you squirt her palate"
mircea_popescu: so wiat, is your thesis that this doesn't exist ? or what ?
nubbins`: asciilifeform the genuine articles are few and far between
nubbins`: asciilifeform there's 140 "master sommeliers" in usa
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 15:00:24; *: nubbins` has admittedly never drunk wine costlier than $500/bottle but can verify that all the superfluous descriptors on the label are actually present
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2014 19:46:16; asciilifeform: the sad part is, 'cyranose' (1990s product based on an oddball solid state gas column) actually worked.
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2014 19:46:26; asciilifeform: locked up in patent purgatory to this day, afaik
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> get stung by nutso us wasp o may gawd... << There's a burrowing and colonizing Vespid species endemic here. When they nest in the yard it is time for the serious chemicals. Eradicating a nest will scar that part of the yard for years.
nubbins`: twodogland is generally free of nasty vermin
nubbins`: no snakes, raccoons, skunks, venomous spiders...
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 19:19:30; asciilifeform: except - they aren't banning monsanto garbage. they're banning 'gmo.'
nubbins`: who maintains thebitcoin.foundation website?
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2014 16:40:01; asciilifeform: once you utter 'pro-' or 'anti-gmo' you're swallowed the stupid pill.
nubbins`: jurov if this is correct, plz to small change?
nubbins`: <font face="courier" color="#00FF00" size="+1"> <<< size should be either not present, or -1
mod6: (removed the size attribute)
mod6: ok gentoo up and running...
mod6: building openssl first to ensure good build.
nubbins`: now the banner fits on my screen :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25808 @ 0.00022673 = 5.8514 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 349256 | Current Difficulty: 4.671754964470642E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 350783 | Next Difficulty In: 1527 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 52024434137.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.35951
nubbins`: ben_vulpes didn't ya hear, nobody cares unless it looks good? 8)
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 23:50:33; mircea_popescu: danielpbarron where was this ?
danielpbarron: A workshop examining the interplay between blockchain technologies, including distributed cryptoledger, and existing legal infrastructure or regulatory regimes.
danielpbarron: The workshop will gather technologists, lawyers and entrepreneurs involved in the deployment of distributed blockchain-based applications. Topics discusses will sketch out a techno-legal framework to resolve the challenges facing applications of these technologies without hindering their distributed potential and decentralized character.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why no ssh in battlepogo?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> asciilifeform: why no ssh in battlepogo? << Why SSH into a machine you have physical access to?
danielpbarron: well unless yours is adulterated, or at the very least set up for net console...
ben_vulpes: hm. i'll read your documentation before embarrasing myself further...
mod6: openssl built fine. building bdb now
mod6: <+nubbins`> mod6 perf thanks << no prob :]
danielpbarron: last time i tried to build bitcoind i got this far -> util.h:650:8: error: 'uint32_t' does not name a type
☟︎ mod6: hmm. i suspect this could be an environment problem... but we'll see.
danielpbarron: for openssl i had to do the "make install_sw" thing
mod6: *local environment problem.
mod6: na, ididn't have to do anything different for openssl.
mod6: i just used the auto.sh (v0.0.5-32)
mod6: bdb is going now, we'll see how it comes out
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00020725 / 0.00022638 / 0.00025392 (885376 shares, 200.44 BTC), 7D: 0.00019609 / 0.00027433 / 0.00030622 (13180647 shares, 3,615.89 BTC), 30D: 0.00019609 / 0.0003465 / 0.0004493 (80475736 shares, 27,884.94 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000065 / 0.00008962 / 0.00025 (136573 shares, 12.24 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00022629 = 1.9687 BTC [-]
mod6: this your roll-ur-own one?
mod6: this aws "small" is so much slower than "medium"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00022633 = 2.6933 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or would you like to reboot your car's ecu manually. << Plenty of people do to cars what you do to pogos
nubbins`: this is vanilla 3.18 you're using?
nubbins`: "[armel/kirkwood]: Enable DEBUG_MVEBU_UART_ALTERNATE to match the behaviour
nubbins`: of previous boardfile based kirkwood kernels. Otherwise the kernel silently
decimation: re: wine > I took a class on winetasting in undergrad
decimation: my perception is that there is some science to it, but it's mostly bs
decimation: at least, the tasting and the 'valuation' seem to be disconnected
decimation: which is why argentina and chile are good places to find deals on reds
mod6: bitcoind builds statically on gentoo with auto.sh (v0.0.5-32)
decimation: asciilifeform: if marvell are so keen on supporting 'open source' devel, why don't they support a proper kernel build?
mod6: there are some different warnings than i've seen before though. i'll rebuild the entire thing again for good measure and use `script` to record the build.
decimation: the problem with open source is that the source code might as well be on mars if nobody can read/use it
decimation: to be fair, I guess neither intel nor amd 'support' linux
decimation: except they probably both have staff working fulltime on the upstream kernel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00022629 = 3.7677 BTC [-]
PeterL: "The Michigan Department of Natural Resources hasn't received any complaints of hunters using a drone or getting harassed by a drone" << my representatives, hard at work solving problems they just invented
decimation: why does this even need to be a law? isn't it obvious that if a flying object is 'harassing' you while you are armed, the proper answer is to shoot it?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Depends on what you are armed with. Shooting with shotgun fine. Proper rifle... Hard to tell when/where bullet is coming down after impact.
mod6: ok one last thing before I rebuild... I needed to add the "-nodnsseed" to bitcoind upon start up otherwise it would just start and exit without doing anything
mod6: but now i've >10000 blocks
PeterL: sounds like a great new sport, like skeet shooting, but the target can move in any direction, just need to make a drone that is either so cheap it's disposable or which can withstand shotgun hits
BingoBoingo: Cheap to the point of disposable is prolly the better avenue
decimation: actually this raises an interesting jurisdictional problem - the faa claims jurisdiction over all airspace above 0 feet
decimation: how can the state of michigan regulate interstate commerce?
decimation: after all, the fcc claims to regulate your wifi
decimation: via the same interstate commerce clause
nubbins`: well til what a watchdog timer is
nubbins`: asciilifeform the unit's got an rtc tho, it's just not seeing it?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25241 @ 0.00022629 = 5.7118 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: www.bnd.com/2015/03/25/3731183/us-steel-to-temporarily-close.html << js paywall easy circumvention
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 02:26:12; asciilifeform: decimation: when you get above the 'recycled piss' price point, i suspect the 'valuation' is 100% 'veblen good.'
mircea_popescu: romania has (had ?) some exceptional wines at 5-10 dollars a bottle.
mircea_popescu: i broadly agree, but imo veblen-ness behaves strangely, as in : window. from about 100 to maybe 5 or 10k a bottle.
mircea_popescu: there's a very proper middle, there's good reason to pay 80 rather than 15.
mircea_popescu: there's a very proper top. there's a good reason to pay 850k
mircea_popescu: (this perhaps easily conglimerated with veblen - but is not same.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform similar phenomenon with virgin slavegirls.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00022633 = 4.8321 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 02:34:59; assbot: Michigan legislation would make using drones to hunt or harass hunters a crime ... (
http://bit.ly/1xAmhbS )
mircea_popescu: otherwise, hunting from flight already soundly illegal.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it occurs to me, that shavers character is like out of a novel. first he gets a civil supoena that he doens't ignore. then he self represents. and doesn't do homework. then he loses the suit. civil suit. he loses it. then he pleads not guilty in criminal proceedings.
mircea_popescu: someone needs to tell him this civil-criminal thing is as close as it gets to double jeopardy in the us
mircea_popescu: and preserved deliberately - to fuck up... well, basically, him.
BingoBoingo: Then again the major reason to retain an attorney in the us is to avoid spam
mircea_popescu: how exactly is this strat supposed to go : i couldn't make the "preponderence of evidence" standard but i'll make the "absolute proof" ?
mircea_popescu: "The average tip amount across all platforms is has fallen to ~$0.91, while the average tip amount on reddit is only ~$0.37… we can do better!"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> how exactly is this strat supposed to go : i couldn't make the "preponderence of evidence" standard but i'll make the "absolute proof" ? << That or make preponderance of evidence standard use as proof in criminal case
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 02:38:56; BingoBoingo: decimation: Depends on what you are armed with. Shooting with shotgun fine. Proper rifle... Hard to tell when/where bullet is coming down after impact.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but the usg (through usg->da) has already evaluated that
mircea_popescu: you basing yourself on the theory usg->judge will != usg->da ?
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 02:40:21; PeterL: sounds like a great new sport, like skeet shooting, but the target can move in any direction, just need to make a drone that is either so cheap it's disposable or which can withstand shotgun hits
mircea_popescu: best way to lose an eye is shoot shotguns at armored targets.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Oh my strategy? I retain lawyers because it forces opposition to route annoying phone calls through attorney
BingoBoingo: Consider the example of a US bankruptcy case. You can cheaply and easily represent yourself if indigent, however you have to handle communications with all of the debtors, or... You scrape together enough to retain an attorney who has a process for handling that annoyance and also retain your sanity.
decimation: re: wine < yeah my perception is that > $10-15 is generally good. more expensive wines are also good, but there are loads of pretenders trying to get by on geography
decimation: once had an excellent german trockenbeernauslese for $50 and it was worth every penny
BingoBoingo: But the shavers strategy seems to be only notable in the sense he pulled off a mega fraud in a space which at the time was especially gullible and vulnerable to mega fraud.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33227 @ 0.00022613 = 7.5136 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo or you could just pipe awk through sed << Hard on the phone.
mircea_popescu: you're not required to communicate via phone are you ?
nubbins`: building cross-compile toolchain is slo-o-o-o-o-o-ow
BingoBoingo: USia, seriously messed up in the things people expect, legally
decimation: bankruptcy without debtor's prison is just silly
trinque: as is debtors prison without real money
nubbins`: they make you go first, before you owe the money
mircea_popescu: i dunno, nubbins`. it'd be a lot better if the tit knew it's caged.
decimation: mircea_popescu: have you found any particularly good south american wines?
decimation: yeah I've never been disappointed in random $10 malbec from chile/ar
mircea_popescu: honestly, i wouldn't expect exceptional out of vineyards that aren;t even 500 years old.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7801 @ 0.00022581 = 1.7615 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: heh. of course many of those french vineyards were decimated by the phylloxera plague
decimation: bourdeaux has been overpriced by chinese bezzlars, but it is also legitimately fine tasting
mircea_popescu: srsly, vinegar, alcohol and sulphur dioxide in the same box ?
decimation: cabernet sauvignon (one of the bordeaux grapes) often has a tobacco flavor for instance
decimation: the impressive thing really is that the knowledgeable winemaker can bring out so many different flavors with just grapes, yeast, toasted oak, and time
mircea_popescu: "tobacco flavour" is kinda like "beautiful woman looks", but hey
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00022717 = 4.8842 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 05:12:04; mircea_popescu: nubbins` can you store a pellet ?
nubbins`: i read it as pallet earlier. i can store pellets.
nubbins`: wonder if "national liquidation" selling em on amazon would cut a deal
nubbins`: probably no huge incentive for them to
danielpbarron: not with the sudden surge of people buying "crates" of them
danielpbarron: wow that thing went for 400 ?? that's probably what it cost to ship them
nubbins`: people are still talking about the ussr 8)
nubbins`: i just sent the liquidators a message, we'll see
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00022568 = 2.0988 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform its more about sorting out logistics imo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00023592 = 5.7682 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: i should unplug the serial connector though right?
mod6: danielpbarron: and yah, im pulling blocks, need -nodnsseed though
mod6: ok im gonna shutdown this aws instance.
nubbins`: ok, sorry, this turdel, what am i doing with it once gunzipped?
danielpbarron: i mean that i had previously flashed in a different uboot
danielpbarron: i remember why this didn't work with the netbsd one
danielpbarron: i feel a lot more confident to write documentation on that now
danielpbarron: i think it's in the debian instructions nubbins` found
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00022578 = 5.0349 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: prolly should have tested tftp before setting it first in the boot order on the pogo
nubbins`: i guess this is as good a time as any to call it a night
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24832 @ 0.00022652 = 5.6249 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: ohimjust here for the plonk data
Vexual: i heard cork, bordeaux 2 euro,
Vexual: might have to buy this pogo thing too
mircea_popescu: dude asciilifeform talking to danielpbarron is breaking my stack. same length names!
Vexual: hey popescue, two bottle of wine, one better than the other, which do you drink first?
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 04:33:21; asciilifeform: not even a very bad one.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli yes you can query it with curl. it spits out json if you append json to any dir
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16384 @ 0.00022509 = 3.6879 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00021915 = 2.1915 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: i guess that what parole is
gribble: Error: "lasercats" is not a valid command.
Vexual: fuck if you cant bankruot without a name change tho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4571 @ 0.00022453 = 1.0263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.00021695 = 10.4136 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: fluffyponyza comments on Almost 10% more full nodes since this morning connected to the network. Over 400 more in US. Is there some sort of competition I don't know of ? ... (
http://bit.ly/1xAZ4GA )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7462 @ 0.0002159 = 1.611 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17714 @ 0.0001694 = 3.0008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00017002 = 5.3726 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12109 @ 0.00016632 = 2.014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00016632 = 1.8295 BTC [-]
mats: ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6805 @ 0.00016581 = 1.1283 BTC [-] {2}
davout: mats: this seems to be supporting mp's thing "bitcoin can only work over gossipd"
davout: jurov: buttcoin is best coin
davout: gotta make fun of the neckbeard pesos
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20953 @ 0.00014884 = 3.1186 BTC [-]
davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu looks like someone has locked S.MPOE's cockpit from the inside!
mike_c: still at 36 pe. it's getting into "value" range now with 3% divs.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00014884 / 0.00022246 / 0.00025392 (937851 shares, 208.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00014884 / 0.00026871 / 0.00030622 (11824171 shares, 3,177.35 BTC), 30D: 0.00014884 / 0.00034565 / 0.0004493 (80690536 shares, 27,891.42 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00020808 / 0.00020865 / 0.00021 (10000 shares, 2.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00020808 / 0.00024954 / 0.000301 (46659 shares, 11.64 BTC)
jurov: 30d still won't budge
jurov: davout no cockpit, we just uncovered the fraud with kako
jurov: supposedly everyone got their own deposit addy and nobody except me comes here to pester mircea for deposits/withdrawals
jurov: i'm very curious what aill come out of this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00014884 = 3.468 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00014884 = 2.6791 BTC [-]
jurov: but i hope that if mp was scammer, he'd have arranged the situation to not look so forlorn :D
mike_c: jurov: wouldn't you expect most people to not ask for deposits/withdrawals in channel?
mike_c: i mean, i don't think i've ever seen anyone ever except you ask in channel.
jurov: why is everyone so utterly secretive?
mike_c: it's not secretive, it's just, why shout it?
mike_c: also, the 'announcement' was recent and the slide started some time ago. my guess is it has more to do with the drop in revenue than anything else, but mp and I have argued that before :)
jurov: i know, being half serious.. but really, i remember from s.dice times half of the chan bragging(or mourning) about trades they did
jurov: i don't remember any such thing for a long time recentyl
mike_c: heh, yeah. but that said more about s.dice than anything else
mike_c: people didn't brag/mourn about options trades either, and those were brutal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28947 @ 0.00014884 = 4.3085 BTC [-]
jurov: but small investors that were caught there, talked about it
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000065 / 0.00009669 / 0.00025 (100399 shares, 9.71 BTC)
jurov: ^ large part of this was me, buying for upcoming divs
mike_c: ^ 1% of bitbet has turned over in the last month. that seems "right" to me. s.mg is untradeable because it has so much coin.
mike_c: how do you trade in a company with no revenue and 10k bitcoin on the books?
davout: i'd naively say you'd base a valuation on the cash assets?
mike_c: heh, well, it's currently trading below book value
mike_c: but, point being, these stocks are generally held by serious investors and aren't going to have huge turnover.
mike_c: so without the options, where does mpex get revenue? it's an issue, and one that may be being reflected now in the stock price
mike_c: of course, the options exchange was hardly closed without reason (including some that remained unspoken), so it's tough to bring it back.
mike_c: davout: re s.mg. I think the problem there is that it is speculative whether they will be able to generate enough revenue to move the needle on the share price. so you might have your capital frozen in a stock that is basically valued as a pile of cash.
mike_c: which is why some people who would rather have the cash themselves are willing to dump it at 90% of book value.
mike_c: and I think it's too bad because it's an exciting company. if they're never going to spend the money, maybe just special dividend it back to the shareholders.
jurov: they will find a way to circulate them into ingame economy, that is not so big problem
mike_c: people have to pay to play, what do they need seed money for the game for?
jurov: i should not have vented here, perhaps am just disillusioned how shabbily it works, deposits, dividends
mike_c: around the edges it is rough, but the important parts are rock solid.
jurov: i fucked too intimately with said parts to put myself behind such statement
mike_c: you think the trading engine isn't solid? or security?
jurov: security is good. but i won't repeat myself about the other stuff
mike_c: i've heard you talk about stuff like 'eventually consistent' and the statements missing some useful tracking features.
mike_c: but i've never heard about problems like 'my bid didn't match the best offer'
mike_c: except one time where something got fucked with a proxy i think :)
mike_c: but once in x years isn't bad
jurov: yes, if that's all you expect from an exchange...
mike_c: hm. yeah, it pretty much is :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00014698 = 2.3664 BTC [-]
mike_c: but i can see you wanting more give you run a brokerage
jurov: i can see even non-broker client wanting to avoid hairy state machine to accurately track the account for daytrading
mike_c: who wants fucking daytraders?
mike_c: let the brokers deal with them :)
mike_c: and i mean that from a business perspective, i'm sure some of them are perfectly pleasant people who just happen to think they are going to daytrade their way to stardom.
jurov: davout isn't even daytrading... and took him fkn long time to get the bot right
jurov: not going to argue with you
mike_c: i'm not trying to argue, was just trying to flesh out the issues. but i think we covered it.
jurov: !s every movement from:jurov
jurov: !s every balance from:jurov
jurov: only filthy daytraders would need such, i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.00014554 = 4.3735 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: i'm trying to think of one, what balance change wouldn't have a reason?
jurov: deposits/withdrawals/pushes aren't shown in stat
jurov: and there were misc options.futures expirations
mike_c: yes, that was suboptimal :)
mike_c: but actually i thought we got that fixed
jurov: except for x.eur balances vanishing in the middle of month (at least it's at known time) and reappearing any time later
jurov: and dunno if you remember, there were daily interest payments in the beginning. without stat mention and at random times
mike_c: this is part of the reason though too. products come and go, with different features.
mike_c: x.eur hasn't been around that long. if it sticks around long enough, i'm sure it will work better.
mike_c: part of the reason there are rough edges is that there are a lot of different products on mpex
mike_c: path 1: engineer each product perfectly and ship 20 months late (sorry s.nsa). path 2: push it out, make sure it works as advertised, if it gets popular and sticks around, smooth out rough edges.
jurov: well, if mpex isn't now structurally able to issue information like "BalanceChange":[{"Date:": "blabla","MPSIC": "X.EUR", "Change": "-100", "Reason" :"Future expiration"}]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00014527 = 1.5617 BTC [-]
jurov: adding it later will only be harder
jurov: anyway, having errands, brb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.0001443 = 3.0303 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55492 @ 0.00014985 = 8.3155 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8398 @ 0.00015364 = 1.2903 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8616 @ 0.00015364 = 1.3238 BTC [+]
nubbins`: bricked the pogo, guess i'll need serial cable after all ;/
nubbins`: changed the boot order to check the NAND first, and then stuffed a bunch of garbage into it
nubbins`: ^ pronounced like "bitte coin"
nubbins`: (also note the smaller characters above: two syllables, "suh"
nubbins`: or as westy likes to pronounce, "sole"
nubbins`: "With 1 Bitcoin and 650+ alternative coins each with their own symbol this new currency needs its symbol"
nubbins`: with 1 hot dog and 200 brands of frozen pizza, this new food needs a name.
nubbins`: "That's odd: all 600+ new nodes came online with the user agent "/Satoshi:0.10.99/Gangnam Style:v4.01""
Vexual: 10.99, what happened to 1.0?
Vexual: almmost elen\venty, cmon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23686 @ 0.00015425 = 3.6536 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0001443 / 0.00020611 / 0.00025392 (1144012 shares, 235.80 BTC), 7D: 0.0001443 / 0.00026565 / 0.00030622 (11796040 shares, 3,133.70 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00034497 / 0.0004493 (80838287 shares, 27,887.00 BTC)
Vexual: seriously these yemenese will eat you
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00020808 / 0.00020865 / 0.00021 (10000 shares, 2.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00020808 / 0.00024954 / 0.000301 (46659 shares, 11.64 BTC)
Vexual: if its moist, its food
Vexual: you cant just bomb em'
gribble: dub was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 53 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <dub> thats an interesting one for france given cambodia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 60000 @ 0.00003998 = 2.3988 BTC [-] {18}
Vexual: pretty sure brazillians are de rigieur and we wont see another bush'
Vexual: lol thats how i find content
Vexual: google rports crimes now?
Vexual: you see the latest hip hop moving to spotify only
Vexual: hmm, that sounds like something i might have said
Vexual: did i have aplan for some moon or other?
assbot: The murder of US journalist David Rosenbaum, as he investigated corrupt US judges - questions remain ... (
http://bit.ly/1HLnD6W )
Vexual: he dont write asm anymore
nubbins`: asciilifeform must i gunzip turdel then tftp 0x800000 filename.gz?
nubbins`: consider the above q modified to make sense
nubbins`: did so. obv smth was incorrect
nubbins`: nod, the ".ub" confused as the gunzip'd file had no ext
nubbins`: PROTIP to self: put tftp /after/ mmc in boot order next time
nubbins`: i missed it, but his "how to use tor" video was painful
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 00:52:42; mircea_popescu: if you decide to fuck whomint, where the fuck is harry poter fanfic boy going to find money to pay for his groceries ?
nubbins`: Hello. Thanks for your email. We were selling these consistently at $30-$35. The price seems to fluctuate on these overtime.I know that many people are modifying them for other things so I know there is a very strong market for them. We have about 3000 of these left at this point.I would be willing to sell a minimum of 1000 units but would be more interested in selling all 3000 that I have left. Can you tell me what you're wanting to do
nubbins`: with them? Are you just wanting to resell them or modify them or something else? Please feel free to make me an offer on a minimum of 1000 units or an offer for all 3000 units if that would interest you. I look forward to hearing from you soon!
nubbins`: asciilifeform mircea_popescu etc ^^
nubbins`: not sure what the guy's sweet spot is
Vexual: yall should have someone sesible liek do da emails
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0001443 / 0.00020445 / 0.00025392 (1031337 shares, 210.86 BTC), 7D: 0.0001443 / 0.00026506 / 0.00030622 (11517071 shares, 3,052.80 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00034496 / 0.0004493 (80824654 shares, 27,881.74 BTC)
Vexual: tahiti is a long way in a canoe
Vexual: the journey prefers stout gents
nubbins`: the stout prefers gent journeys
nubbins`: ok, reply sent. let's see where this goes.
nubbins`: "But Wi-Fi hotspots can't deliver wireless connection speeds any faster than the incoming wired connection from your cable or other ISP (Internet service provider); top theoretical AC router speeds are only available in a direct computer-to-computer wireless connections, which you'll never do."
nubbins`: you're right, i'd never want to transfer data within my network
Vexual: the bettong with the scroll on its ankle is the bottleneck here
nubbins`: in fact, i don't, but i kinda think that's not what the guy meant to say
nubbins`: who cares what the router speed is if you're going ad-hoc?
nubbins`: just some random huffpo article about how yr router is lying to you
nubbins`: because the pipe coming into your house is slower
Vexual: they have optic fibre to the eyeball
Vexual: yeah but youd have it anyway ascii
Vexual: nubbins shoos bears off his wifi'
nubbins`: i think this was written for USians with slow pipes
nubbins`: fiber to the door here, i dare the wifi to keep up
thestringpuller: wifi is for people who don't like living in a house akin to Kowloon Walled City
Vexual: i wrote this next week
Vexual: yes, comin atchya on a 1.4
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 234882 @ 0.00015768 = 37.0362 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00015753 = 5.4978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00015753 = 3.5759 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "I am a Harvard classmate of top US leaders" the wankery is strong with this one
nubbins`: how about if he claims to be a martian in every communique? 8)
nubbins`: yfw 0.5.3 has a hidden backdoor and both satoshi and mp are complicit!
nubbins`: and me without a general checkup in years
nubbins`: anyway, you're correct in that nothing leaked was particularly damaging to the lizards
nubbins`: which in itself is mildly curious
nubbins`: i bet assange is such a fucking dirtbag
nubbins`: he probably eats potato chips for breakfast
nubbins`: i wonder how many btc people sent snowden
nubbins`: turns out it was in fact clearphone?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you so much. But I guess this is not true on OTC WoT? Only in assbot, right?
mod6: well, it didn't used to suck.
mod6: speaking of... i kinda miss trading otc
danielpbarron: do miners even sell in there? or is it all people acting as coinbase pass-throughs?
mod6: I dunno anymore. It used to be different.
mod6: is there a way to visually see the ratings for a given nick with assbot?
mod6: !gettrust mod6 assbot
mike_c: mod6: soon. it'll be public after conference.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 235486 @ 0.00015906 = 37.4564 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125550 @ 0.00016085 = 20.1947 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 199550 @ 0.00016085 = 32.0976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 873079 @ 0.00016333 = 142.6 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 306674 @ 0.00017534 = 53.7722 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00019321 = 1.9514 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0001443 / 0.00017661 / 0.00025392 (3033844 shares, 535.82 BTC), 7D: 0.0001443 / 0.00024898 / 0.00030622 (13265892 shares, 3,303.03 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00034046 / 0.0004493 (82819096 shares, 28,197.34 BTC)
mod6: !gettrust assbot nubbins`
mod6: Hey nubbins`: if you're not signed up to the btc-dev list, now is not a horrible time. You wouldn't mind sending your OSX steps there (in a clearsigned message) would you?
nubbins`: oh, sure. here's the thing tho
nubbins`: i'mma have to set up a new pgp key
mod6: ah, ok. best day to do that is today.
mod6: well, so the saying goes :]
mod6: anyway, thanks in advance.
mod6: It'd be nice to have it in there anyway, signed by yourself. And then I can mention it in this months address as well.
nubbins`: anyone got a guide for assbot wot handy?
nubbins`: i'm gonna need to rate my key but i guess i hafta register it with assbot first
nubbins`: wait, i can just !changekey, right?
mod6: i don't think you can rate yourself.
nubbins`: mod6 i use separate pgp keys for various things
mod6: yeah, changekey should do it. but don't listen to me. i r dumb. ask kako to make sure.
nubbins`: the one i use here is, uh, not the one i should be signing foundation releases with
mod6: ah, no worries, this can wait until later, days or weeks if needed.
mod6: i was just hoping for before 31st of march. :]
nubsy searches for gpg cheat sheet
nubbins`: note email address attached to 3C84 4002
nubbins`: while ostensibly pink eye has business using a gpg key around these parts, it's hard for me to justify "signing foundation code releases" as a relevant business activity
nubbins`: mod6 i can just dump clearsigned text into the body, yes?
nubbins`: like i said earlier, these steps should be relatively impervious to future code changes
mod6: I don't see it in there, but the mailatronic has been known to snarf messages at will.
nubbins`: i *just* registered the key with assbot
mod6: Maybe we can get jurov to take a peek. If not, post your clearsigned message to pastebin and maybe I can clearsign your clearsigned message and send it myself.
mod6: aight, we'll give it a day.
mod6: no problem. thanks for putting the work in there and getting that going!
mod6: ;;later tell jurov did you see any weirdness from Mailman regarding nubbins`'s OSX clearsigned message on 2015.03.26?
nubbins`: i sent it from the wrong account
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39882 @ 0.00019551 = 7.7973 BTC [+]
nubbins`: if *that* doesn't show up, either we gotta wait for key list to refresh or there's some other strange
nubbins` would not be surprised if ML doesn't poll assbot wot very frequently
jurov: haven't you just created the key?
jurov: no it does not poll it at all, i refresh i manually *blushes*
nubbins`: the key itself is old, i just reg'd it with assbot 15 mins ago
nubbins`: FWIW it's not the sort of thing that needs to poll just yet
mod6: yeah, agree. it doesn't need that functionallity yet.
nubbins`: yeah tyvm, let me know when updated and i'll resend
nubbins`: "hai guise where my maniez? i email"
nubbins`: Very respectfully yours, Dr Les (Leslie - Leszek) Sachs - Scholar of the history of law and religion, with 7 earned academic degrees from 3 universities, the first two from Harvard University, alongside many US leaders;
nubbins`: Dr Les (went to school w/ important people) Sachs
nubbins`: but if martian is a synonym for obvious attention-seeker...
nubbins`: (what's up with the CV as a footnote?)
nubbins`: "Former USA resident who risked being tortured to death, attempting defence of human and Constitutional rights inside the United States, facing down terrorist gangster lawyers in a US courtroom, alone because US lawyers cower in fear before bribed US judges;"
nubbins`: Faced down terrorist gangster lawyers in a US courtroom, alone
nubbins`: Formerly lived in a glass-bottomed boat with oars made of flame
nubbins`: anyway, i'm just poking fun of the chrome here
nubbins`: not addressing the content of the thing 8)
nubbins`: which, on the face, is no more or less plausible than the understanding anyone else is operating under
nubbins`: guy's websites are a fuckin pain to read
nubbins`: i couldn't be fucked to read another page of it
nubbins`: nor a master of not encasing the entire page in <strong>
nubbins`: how the fuck is someone supposed to parse this
nubbins`: i dunno man, the one page about cromwell i read was nutted out
assbot: New US Federal Court lawsuit involving Patricia Cornwell -Cornwell renews threats to murder Dr Les Sachs ... (
http://bit.ly/1EHB5SY )
nubbins`: Cornwell quickly denounces the "dirty Jews", the "filthy Jews". Indeed, attacking Jews is a real passion for the neo-Nazi Cornwell, while at the same time engaging in the 'Pleasures of Adolf Eichmann', Cornwell's hiring of dishonest Jews to do dirty jobs for her, a 'pet Jew' whom Cornwell can dominate.
nubbins`: Cornwell's lawyers know this, that attacking and murdering Jews is Cornwell's ultimate fetish and fantasy, to herself become a lesbian Adolf Hitler. Cornwell's longtime lawyers Shumadine and Rudell, mentioned above, took advantage of this back in 2000, when they threatened someone of Jewish heritage with a Jew-baiting extortion letter.
nubbins`: after clicking 5 links through various pages of gibberish, i find the "jew-baiting" extortion letter
nubbins`: reminds me of the woman who claimed JK Rowling stole her book "Larry Botter" or w/e
nubbins`: for all i know, this guy is preaching the true word
nubbins`: at the risk of being blithe, he's a nutter who harasses people he thinks are out to get him
mike_c: how much are they paying you nubbins`?
nubbins`: mike_c my purpose of being here has been discussed in the past
nubbins`: asciilifeform problem is, if the "similar markings" are verbal diarrhoea, i just wouldn't be able to.
nubbins`: everyone with this type of crazy has the same website
nubbins`: each with endless, endless paragraphs of text
nubbins`: full of hyperbole and exaggeration
nubbins`: the only difference between this guy and a "SHTF" type prepper is the style of the gibberish
nubbins`: mine is that it's a piece of breat with nut butter on both sides
nubbins`: but again. i'm not evaluating his claims (how can i? 100% not reading any more), just the way in which he presents himself and his theories
nubbins`: these rambling essays to me are like rounded corners to mp
punkman: asciilifeform: doesn't have to run in windows though
nubbins`: woo, got a contact for bulk orders from that other place
nubbins`: "We currently have plenty of them in stock"
nubbins`: For two days only, save 40% on Pogoplug Unlimited Cloud—just $29 for the first year (reg. $49.95).
punkman: asciilifeform: aha, smells like PR
nubbins` lives on monsanto-free island (for now)
nubbins`: phun phact, newfoundland was england's first overseas colony
nubbins`: may have a job printing posters for big-name punk band :0
nubbins`: first guy is already "!!!!"ing me
mod6: <+nubbins`> may have a job printing posters for big-name punk band :0 << anyone i'd know?
BingoBoingo: If the bad has a big name it can't be very punk
mod6: what about Fugazi. Or the Melvins? Everyone knows them, they're still punk(tm)
BingoBoingo: Were punk, they were punk, emphasis on the past tense
mod6: Do you consider Strung Out to be a punk band?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167100 @ 0.00026674 = 44.5723 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: I heard they're gonna be playing up here. gotta try to catch 'em.
nubbins`: mod6 you'd definitely know em, the name starts with P and it's not pennywise
nubbins`: but can't say much else til the contract is signed :D
nubbins`: BingoBoingo any punk band you've heard of is by definition not punk
nubbins`: mod6 melvins was a good guess tho, they get silkscreened posters done locally for all their slows
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> BingoBoingo any punk band you've heard of is by definition not punk << Of course by the time I've heard of them they've lapsed.
nubbins`: 10/10 have watched maybe 15 times
mod6: oh startswith P. i know who it is. that's awesome!
nubbins`: BingoBoingo you want real punk, check local flyers for bands called "cider squad" and shit like that
nubbins`: & watch some crust kid barf on a drum kit
gribble: Error: "watch" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Cider Squad can't be punk anymore. You have to understand that my herueistic for this is that if I've heard of something it can no longer be punk, underground, or whatever
nubbins`: i recall being at one of these shows once
nubbins`: guy comes up "hey, wanna go in on a case of beer?"
nubbins`: "...oh yeah" then guy wanders in and takes stage w/ band
nubbins`: i'm gonna be /making/ a serial cable anyway
nubbins`: but if you don't mind the indulgence, short term...
mod6: ok, maybe i don't understand. but im gonna ask anyway. but what you're saying is that the pogo embedded os wont have a rng?
mod6: so what is bitcoind supposed to do?
mod6: ok. so we won't sign transactions then
mod6: see, just thought i'd ask.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 241000 @ 0.00026322 = 63.436 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17263 @ 0.00026256 = 4.5326 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i had to double check the pcb last night when your rtc0 init failed
nubbins`: put another way, do not solder a battery holder into your pogo and use it as a wallet, either 8)
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2015 05:51:18; mircea_popescu: holy hell a sane engineer.
nubbins`: try !s <that word> from:nubbins` some time
Adlai: !s pin from:nubbins`
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2013 16:54:13; nubbins`: floor. vast communities of bulky orderlies. rowhouses of nurses. all rooms are hospitals now. the firmament, a massive inferno of blue-black gods. judges pouring time as the piss of Dionysus. insects dripping honey and pulling wax upon my ears. says, 'All the angels can dance on the tip of a pin. all thoughts can jig upon the point of a pen'
nubbins`: alf just triggered one of my snowcrash zone-outs
Adlai watches a snail crawl across the edge of a razor
jurov: don't see a problem there. once telnet starts, root access is no longer unexpected.
assbot: St. Louis man threatened to kill police, rigged home with booby traps, court documents say : News ... (
http://bit.ly/19nUD62 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110600 @ 0.00025498 = 28.2008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93650 @ 0.00025968 = 24.319 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Imma watch the video and try to screencap the variety of arms
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178850 @ 0.00024803 = 44.3602 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115157 @ 0.00024502 = 28.2158 BTC [-]
assbot: FIDOR Bank and Bitcoin.de launch Bitcoin Express trading system | BitcoinBlog.de - das Blog für Bitcoin und andere virtuelle Währungen ... (
http://bit.ly/1NkclVF )
jurov: " is set to become the world’s first trading platform with a direct connection to the classic banking system" davout perhaps you may something to say about that?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54150 @ 0.00025621 = 13.8738 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ^ Picture in article is larger than when displayed with the text
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not a bad deal, but meh, spend 35k on this thing ?
mircea_popescu: "Police report at EU national police agencies, extensively discussing CIA-Wikipedia-Google media control crimes, of which the CIA-Snowden fraud is part."
mircea_popescu: can you retro-translate this via your russian dictionary to actual english ?
mircea_popescu: so some guy wrote some things on a piece of paper about what he heard on the news and submitted this to his local police station ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu there's also then the issue of where to stash them etc
nubbins`: anyway, now ya know how much that many of em costs 8)
mircea_popescu: afaik danielpbarron resolved that, but srsly, 3k seems at this point excessive. bitcoin hasn't had that many nodes since i dunno, 2012.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony lol has that derp actually sold any o'reilly tomes ? or we not talking about how product fails at the one fucking job product had ?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, the "node identified by ip" thing we discussed yesterday.
mircea_popescu: to complement what i said then, not only i know of no infrastructure nodes that are reliably identifiable by ip, but i know of no infrastructure nodes that have no vpn access to other nodes.
mircea_popescu: the idea you are going to "monopolize" connections to a node is laughable, as they are all implemented to have hardwired connections you don't get to touch, in a pedestrian, difficult and unwieldy reimplementation of a wot system.
mircea_popescu: moreover, "n confirmation doublespends" still needs you to produce mined blocks of a proper difficulty, which is just as hard as on the main net.
mircea_popescu: in short - this is why academic wankery is called academic wankery. it has all the characteristics of useful work save a few.
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 12:43:53; jurov: but i hope that if mp was scammer, he'd have arranged the situation to not look so forlorn :D
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 12:50:04; jurov: but small investors that were caught there, talked about it
mircea_popescu: at least large herbivores lookl like they were basically built for it
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 13:02:41; mike_c: people have to pay to play, what do they need seed money for the game for?
nubbins`: store sells goods, why you need to start the day with a full register?
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 14:32:24; nubbins`: with 1 hot dog and 200 brands of frozen pizza, this new food needs a name.
mircea_popescu: first, trying to attack bitcoin with the nonsensical "oh, nothing notable except blockchain technologee"
mircea_popescu: then, once that worked as well as you'd expect, moving on to "oh, nothing notable, many things just like it" ?
mircea_popescu: alf's lizard hitler seems pretty similar to the original hitler cca 1944.
jurov: sorry, i just had some slanderous moments
jurov: feeling better now. and later today i got an email someone wants to haul considerable amount of stuff from havelol to coinbr.
mircea_popescu: ayway, i don't mind. questioning is the core of progress!
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assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 14:56:44; asciilifeform: 'CIA-Wikipedia ("Every dumbf-ck in the world believes Wikipedia") - artificially pumped by CIA Google to top of search results, a 'Trojan horse' for inserting CIA lies and rubbish - see the EU police report on Wikipedia fundraising fraud...'
mircea_popescu: the only thing is, i do not believe the degradation of google's model from algorithmic to "algorithmic" to "whatever, we'll just do it by hand" is in any sense cia's work.
mircea_popescu: note the exact same fate of the only similar thing to date : imperial chinese examination.
mircea_popescu: also, originally, an attempt to resolve the "find sites" problem by iteration over the graph.
mircea_popescu: a while later (about the same while later) it was exactly the same thing : "wikipedia at top of all search results because wikipedia at top of all search results".
mircea_popescu: that guardian is an intel asset, and greenwald in particular just gavin in a different color scheme is again uncontroversial.
mircea_popescu: leakers that actually trust the entire press-to-public model are idiots in the first place.
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mircea_popescu: that usg courts are a sad joke, again uncontroversial.
mircea_popescu: "where three thinking people gather" or w/e the soviet expression was
mircea_popescu: what is the intersection of this everywhere and prefab furniture ?
mircea_popescu will underscore there's nothing wrong with cheap ikea stuff. what was at stake above was the expectation that a sample with weird homologies may be representative for "the world"
mircea_popescu: ie, if "all the women you've talked to" spit, and also are not wearing skirts, maybe sample is no good.
assbot: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
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mircea_popescu: whilke it's arguable if it makes the point more or less persuasively than that thing, nevertheless, it does make it, and who exactly argued with it ?
mircea_popescu: chomsky actually said that the joe stack grievances are legitimate, and will take over if not tackled.
mircea_popescu: i mean, sure, it's not watercooler conversation, among 10-20 an hour derps.
mircea_popescu: i thought those were the nutteries we were digging aside.
nubbins`: i was looking at these hooto things the other day
nubbins`: asciilifeform will try turdel tonite/tmrw, meatspace commitments
nubbins`: you said it'll run from sd, ya?
nubbins`: field ver, rootfs on ext storage
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assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 15:04:08; asciilifeform: anyway this should be enough lure for everybody. mega-lulzy tirade. if chumpatronic, it is of top quality and i take off my hat to the chumpatronicist.
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 15:08:26; asciilifeform: 'In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page.'
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assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 15:32:26; asciilifeform: was i the only one here who actually read (for a time) mr s's (purported) www output (e.g., 'twitter', etc) ?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> no one should ever be connecting to these things except on his own lan during setup << myes, realized this in the shower this am. also question of usernames, keys...
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mircea_popescu: (protip : "onlyallfours" is a very bad idea, especially on hard floors. bursitis is at thing, if you give a horse shoes to protect hooves from hard pavement, might as well give the slavegirls kneepads.)
trinque goes for the tatted up look
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mircea_popescu: "Can you tell me what you're wanting to do with them? " ?<< lol nubbins` got teh usms curious nao
mircea_popescu: "you mean to tell me we could use these to run bitcoin nodes ourselves ?!?! FU NOT SELLING THEM NAO"
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 15:54:27; asciilifeform: 'After making public revelations critical of US policies, former CIA director William Colby was himself found dead in 1996 from a laughably improbable 'canoe accident'. US Congressman Wayne Owens was found dead in Israel in 2002 while investigating US corruption connections.' << 'best news is the history you didn't know' (mircea_popescu?)
mircea_popescu: to imagine the usg, or for that matter any bureaucracy like a PERSON rather than like a disease is imo to be very, very wrong
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i understand the theory we're discussing, they'd be all the same thing ?