bounce: not that much with only one part of a multisig. you'd have to go spear-phishing afterwards.
bounce: might as well mount a wallet.dat grabbing attack right away with some malvertising-planted rootkittery
bounce: OTOH their continued allusions to their own greatness do start to grate quickly.
bitcoinpete: bounce: lol you make a good point even if they're lame
bounce: *shrug* it doesn't really do to bash'em on things they didn't actually do wrong.
bounce: I don't particularly like the model, but if above assumptions hold it's not acutally an outright bad idea.
bounce: that's a big if, though.
bitcoinpete: it might end up being another cointerra/neobee told-ya-so, might not
bounce: there's always somebody going to be right with the told-ya-so.
bitcoinpete: well i'll let someone else be their guinea pig ;)
bounce: bound to be plenty volunteers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.48000005 = 0.96 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.072 = 1.368 BTC [+]
ozbot: Fla. jail explosion kills 2, injures 184
bitcoinpete: too much rain --> magic --> natural gas leak --> kaboom!
BingoBoingo: Flooding can extinguish pilot lights, gas builds up, prisoner lights a cigarette... Boom
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22661 @ 0.00097248 = 22.0374 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: bounce are you sure that there "being a market" is a valid approach ?
mircea_popescu: there's a market for injecting raw industrial silicon in women's buttocks.
ozbot: Florida woman posing as butt-enhancing doctor arrested for lethal injections
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 150 @ 0.00086011 = 0.129 BTC [-]
bounce: there's people that, er, do the same thing with cement?
bounce: anyway, I wasn't commenting on validity really
mircea_popescu: <bounce> I don't particularly like the model, but if above assumptions hold it's not acutally an outright bad idea. << what's that then ?
bounce: add earlier context that "the masses" happily take any stupid stuff when offered so even a marginally better idea improves the overall situation (if only marginally)
bounce: or, in other words, their idea isn't high explosive in and of itself -- which is what bitcoinpete was contending
kakobrekla: > you [ognasty] are one of the most trusted people in the entire crypto community
mircea_popescu: and only because i was just writing on this, and my conclusion was "burn it with fire"
ozbot: Idiocy without borders / Idiots sans frontieres pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: just reading that as a matter of fact. irlloled several times in this bar
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the dude that kept coming to derp in here ?
mircea_popescu: "Played monopoly, paid his buy-in". if there was a more marginal marginal ever...
kakobrekla: anyway, if some blogger feels like dissecting this, its good material.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete the wench brings the drinks, i bring the lolz, is it ? :D
bounce: what's that to do with the multisig wallet thingy bitcoinpete posted a blog about?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00097288 = 3.1132 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well no, i selected the "what to do about idiots". you seemed to say that well... empowering their idiocy through catering to their whims is a net positive.
bounce: oh no, I was on about the multisig idea underpinning a webwallet thingy
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: what more could i ask for? this bc merlot ain't half bad either
mircea_popescu: " as we've seen, there's a market for convenience, any convenience at all" << that part.
mircea_popescu: “Experts say people resort to illegal ‘pumping parties,’ where customers outside a hospital or clinical setting are injected with anything from Botox to industrial-grade silicone, out of convenience or because they lack insurance or access to health care and legitimate plastic surgery.”
dub: aint no party like illegal pumpin party
bounce: well, with accessable insurance and accessable plastic surgery there'll still be those among the masses doing outright stupid stuff, but at least it'll be medically sound
bounce: my angle was I'd rather have the masses have medically sound care than not, regardless of their stupidity.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but you know... back in 1700 there seems to be a complete dearth of bohemian peasants that sat around injecting silicone in their butts to look more like women.
mircea_popescu: so perhaps the problem is that so many poor idiots are also idle.
bounce: or have disposable income to spend
mircea_popescu: i mean this welfare nonsense is a) very recent and b) never seems to have been critically considered.
mircea_popescu: for as long as the british empire endured, the thinking was that the poor have to be kept busy
mircea_popescu: this somehow switched, 180. and i can't find when, or why.
bounce: why? why do tribe members in darkest africa /want/ to get mutilated? c'mon, you're the one with the degree in anthropology, wasn't it?
mircea_popescu: well yeah, which is what confounds the example that's prolly very clear cut to you.
mircea_popescu: generally they want to be cut for similar reasons to women wanting to be my slaves, it's an educational experience.
bitcoinpete: it still appears as though the present system exists to keep the poor busy
bounce: o_O? inasmuch all of life is educational, if you believe wossname esotherics. I'd rather say it's part of being part of the group. we're social, group-minded animals.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete huge diff between busy and entertained tho.
bounce: busy or entertained, either will do if it keeps'em from mobbing and overthrowing the ruling elite
mircea_popescu: bounce no no, what i mean is quite this : the trannies in florida get the silicone to look a certain way. the african tribesmen get the cut to be a certain way. there's a meta level of distinction.
mircea_popescu: similar to the kid that goes to college to learn vs the kid that goes to college to get the diploma.
bitcoinpete: and it's set up so both achieve the same nothingness 4 years later
mircea_popescu: and busy != entertained, because the later is self-managed, the former is not. imposing upon the poor is the essence of busywork, not just that they're occupied, but that they're occupied with other's orders.
bounce: couch potato is self-managed?
bounce: hyping $stupid_show is in essence giving orders by marketeering
bitcoinpete: the order of a megacorp to buy a new car, new watch, granite countertops leads to busywork downstream
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete this was the theory, cca 1950 to 1980s. it meanwhile failed.
bitcoinpete: it's not clear to me that the essence of consumerism is anything less than substance for most
mircea_popescu: the essence/substance distinction is not a matter subjective. what they think and represent has little import.
bounce: well, there's this book by a working-poor-to-riches guy that did it by working really hard and taking every opportunity (like calling the book "how you too can become a millionaire" when he's just explaining what opportunities came his way and how he used them, not really a manual but it's a bestselling title) who also notes it's often the poor that keep themselves and each other poor to, well, fit in with the rest. part of their identity.
bounce: breaking out of that was thus breaking with his prior identity, even his family (didn't help he was queer as a queen, but anyhow) and so on.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu i see what you mean. perhaps the welfare deal could've only happened in the new world on the back of a sizeable military victory? never before, never again
bounce: reduced ad absurdum, turn off the telly frees you up to get rich. yet they don't turn off the telly for have to be up to date on the soap/game/whatever for the small talk tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete it happened before. it's exactly how rome looked, 100 to 500ish ad. legionaires too lazy to wear... the helmet. the cuirass was long before abandoned, and even beforer that the shield.
mircea_popescu: bounce but the problem is the "they" in there. why should they turn off the telly or not turn off the telly ?
mircea_popescu: why are the poor masters of their own life ? what nonsense is this!
mircea_popescu: substantially, it's pernicious to the poor. and this is obvious.
mircea_popescu: but essentially... it is pernicious to everyone. and this has so far gone un noticed.
bounce: what, you're arguing against rule by the not-poor?
mircea_popescu: i;m arguing against trying to implement attempts at eating-and-keeping cake.
bounce: uhm. connect that one for me?
mircea_popescu: ok, let me work the latin military example, i think it's the best way in.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: ok so everything is pernicious against the poor, the current system just makes is shitty for everyone else and the planet too, because poor think they can do shit
mircea_popescu: cca 300 bc, the roman military consisted of citizens. they went on campaign as the field work was done, raped and pillaged, then lay down their arms and did the fields.
bounce: read the wikipedia page intro. got given a job to do, gave back the authority that came with it once job done.
mircea_popescu: meh. read some classical source sometime, well worth the effort. anyway.
mircea_popescu: which they carried, on foot, for about 30 miles a day, for weeks on end.
mircea_popescu: this was military life, at the time, and them folks were... pretty healthy.
bounce: by virtue of people not up to the task getting weeded out right quick
mircea_popescu: you essentially couldsn't get married if you didn't do well i nthe military, so italso self-selected.
bounce: plenty fighting, plenty loot. that sort of go-getter tends to be popular with the troops.
mircea_popescu: he was popular with the troops because he carried his fucking gear.
mircea_popescu: see ? but the greatest general the romans ever had, arguably, was loved for this very important fucking point, to the soldiers of the time :
bounce: though he apparently also had quite a bit of tent with tiles(!) for flooring with him on campaign, but anyway
mircea_popescu: now, fast forward to caracalla. one of the least bearable emperors in history.
mircea_popescu: by now, the soldiers are sort-of carrying 30ish lbs of crap, and it's more like "you gotta be a suycker to carry all that".
mircea_popescu: because you see... suppose someone inssited they do everything old style.
mircea_popescu: would he likely be loved ? or on the contrary, despised as a total fucking moron of aggregated pointless idiocy ?
bounce: hard to tell. would depend a lot on how it's sold to the troops. I'll grant doing it without selling won't buy you anything except perhaps the troops' stuff to carry too.
mircea_popescu: suppose i walk into a 3rd year computer science class at mit, and proceed to make the kids do one arithmetic problem, and then once they fuck it up make them do one hundred, by hand,
mircea_popescu: and get out the cane and start caning them liberally per mistake.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.0009738 = 23.8581 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: so there we have it : the cleaving between substance and essence makes it impossible for people to live,
bounce: guys at MIT probably wouldn't make that many misteaks. they have a bit of an ethos of being bloody smart and figuring things out.
mircea_popescu: but it also makes it impossible for them to be helped.
mircea_popescu: it;'s not enough they aren';t fucking soldiers anymore. for their sins, they also cant have generals now.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu soldiers only follow orders...isn't a requisite for higher learning self thought?
bounce: uhm. I think I see where you're coming from but the essence/substance thing doesn't speak to me. maybe I'm tired.
bounce: have you read heinlein's starship troopers, btw?
decimation: Of course, during republican times, if the army seriously fucked up they would have ... the decimation
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it depends to a huge degree whose orders tho.
mircea_popescu: some guy who simply blindly and slavishly followed da vinci's orders has overall better chances to make his own masterpieces in 30 years than some kid sitting on his ass on reddit all day.
bounce calls for a law to ban reddit, for the arts!
assbot: Voicing AgentSmurf for 30 minutes.
bitcoinpete: A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people."
bitcoinpete: It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life.
bitcoinpete: Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, and call it the state: they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them.
bitcoinpete: Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as sin against laws and customs.
decimation: Well, the point is, maim (or kill one), educate one thousand
BingoBoingo: I kind of actually hope the Sterling dude exercises ownership by abolishing the Clippers.
decimation: I doubt he has the actual power to do s
bitcoinpete: "Many sick people have always been among the poetizers and God-cravers; furiously they hate the lover of knowledge and that youngest among the virtues, which is called "honesty." They always look backward toward dark ages; then, indeed, delusion and faith were another matter: the rage of reason was godlikeness, and doubt was sin." <<mas zara
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: sterling's best hope is that the other owners got his back, which , maybe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15324 @ 0.00097439 = 14.9316 BTC [+]
decimation: no, he's quoting that nutcase Nietzsche
bitcoinpete: bounce: nietzsche. scripture is the logs and the pentuach lol
decimation: The best version of that book is the tone-poem by Richard Strauss
bounce: some scripture, with "lol" for punctuation
bitcoinpete: bounce: if you can't laugh at it, it ain't much good
bounce: what was that bit about laughing tracks again?
bitcoinpete: that's other people laughing, how do they count?
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must (1 more message)
bounce: time for me to catch some zees though
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 24 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <jurov> supay, such as, github stuff?
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 50.47838131 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0290001 = 0.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.03586108 = 0.3227 BTC [+]
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.63493644 BTC
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.63723671 BTC
mircea_popescu: so there we go. 213.15567101 btc added to f.mpif in exchange for 1mn extra shares, invested 100 into panacea and 113.15567101 into jd.
mircea_popescu: this is a little over ideal weight imo, will trim it over time as other venues become able to absorb moar capital
BingoBoingo: It's probably for the best that this extra capital went to the lower risk ventures.
mircea_popescu: hehe we don't even have enough history yet to really evaluate risk
artifexd: Today is not a day to skimp on reading the logs.
artifexd: Maybe read them a few times....
mike_c: i thought the block of 1mn that sold was you selling your shares in mpif
mike_c: those were new shares?
mike_c: so you hold 1mn and everybody else holds 1mn?
mike_c: and there is another block of 1mn sitting on the order book?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well jd and panacea have histories. I'm assuming my pc is high risk until evidence supports otherwise.
mircea_popescu: yes, like 1mn and a little sold, and i have almost 1mn which is sitting in the book
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo panacea's almost a year old, jd is almost two. these aren't histories, berkshire is like 50 years old.
mike_c: jd isn't even a year old yet :)
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.64373055 BTC
mike_c: bitcoin time.. it feels like forever.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2913 @ 0.0001489 = 0.4337 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2302 @ 0.00014912 = 0.3433 BTC [+] {2}
TestingUnoDosTre: I'm very confused to what MPIF actually is. Can someone explain? I have read the mpex page, but it has not enlightened me to what is exactly going on
mike_c: it is a fund. you give money to mpif, it invests it in various bitcoin thingies.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00097356 = 20.4448 BTC [-]
mike_c: 1 ATC block in the last 2.5 hours :(
ozbot: Regulating Digital Currencies: Bringing Bitcoin within the Reach of the IMF by Nicholas Plassaras :
TestingUnoDosTre: oh my fuck, you're telling me I could have just bet both sides at the beginning and won?
mircea_popescu: of course, a large part of hte problem is that if the derps running around on welfare checks debasing the cultural impoirtance of money,
mircea_popescu: the engineer would NOT think there are more important things in life,
mircea_popescu: something like that. as they say, a fart stinks up the entire room.
mircea_popescu: the ill effects of moral hazard produced through giving idiots free money are far reaching.
mike_c: artifexd: yeah, i don't know which way that bet is going to go, but it will be a bumpy ride.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: cruft
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00444596 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
decimation: it seems to me that any core group ("old republicans?") who would stand and fight would easily be crushed by the existing US power holders
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00097356 = 10.6118 BTC [-]
decimation: well exactly. carry a 30 lb sack and bitch about it
artifexd: "craftsman" That was the motivation behind my choice of nick. To continually remind myself of the meaning behind the word and to aspire to have that word used to describe me.
artifexd: unix-y d. As in the worker that does its work out of sight. Daemon.
mircea_popescu: w/o the welfare cheques, the "vc" bunch would be alone in a room.
decimation: I was thinking about this the other day. Almost every technology advance has been used in the US to reduce quality and increase prices. Cell phones go from 25 kHz analog channel to 10 kbit/s "channel"
mircea_popescu: nobody'd come to put up the show and shake the bottled fars for them
mircea_popescu: decimation that's a major point of socialism : it uses technology to degrade quality of life
decimation: kitchen appliances go from stainless machines that last for decades to cheap plastic shit that rots after a few years
decimation: try buying a decent dishwasher or clothes washer in the us
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00097176 = 4.2757 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it matches my lifestyle perfectly, i get to a new place, buy a set of the plastic shits
mircea_popescu: by the time they're falling apart i was just about leaving
decimation: yeah the average usian moves every 7 years as i recall
decimation: the problem is that they are running out of places to sprawl and ruin
decimation: I think it would be great. Young engineers would occupy the greybeard's old shacks, and repeat his experiments
mircea_popescu: maybe when you're old and dying you pick a guy to bequeath your yurt line toi
decimation: sounds legit. Why not learn on the very machines of the old master? Better yet, fix it up
decimation: I'm sure being India there's a caste aspect to it too
decimation: Boston brahmins being replaced with Brahmins
decimation: ah okay I'm thinking Bose of the bose speaker empire
decimation: he was a legitimate EE prof at MIT, but apparently found it more profitable to separate idiots from their money
decimation: I was wrong he was Amar, not Aram, my memories betray
TestingUnoDosTre: until Dr. Dre came into the headphone space. Then idiots lost their money twice as fast
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you that if you asked indian teens today, the millionaire speaker ee guy is more interesting a worship idol than the physicist.
decimation: yeah I agree "us -> india" is on the optimistic side
kakobrekla: yes everyone advertises on bitbet comments, from predictious to fairlay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15218 @ 0.00097312 = 14.8089 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: at least they sold out to respectable beltway banditry
TestingUnoDosTre: I'm going to go create a betting website, go advertise on bitbet, then create a bitbet that my site will last throughout the year, then bet on NO
mircea_popescu: sometimes i entertain this vague notion where we're somehow all wrong and the nonsense somehow actually makes sense
mircea_popescu: "what premises would we need for intelligent frogs to make perfect sense ?"
mircea_popescu: then make another one, and with the profitos from the first one, buy a a banner ?
mircea_popescu: btw, i don't know if you realise this, but we're fucking up most insects something fierce.
mircea_popescu: they're tuned to seek the moon in the dark, you see, because while they can't go that far, all of them seeking it ensures they meet
mircea_popescu: but with the countless neon moons distributed all over, this ceases to work
mircea_popescu: "You discover that one day, some idiot decided that since another idiot decided that 1/0 should equal infinity, they could just use that as a shorthand for "Infinity" when simplifying their code. Then a non-idiot rightly decided that this was idiotic, which is what the original idiot should have decided, but since he didn't, the non-idiot decided to be a dick and make this a failing error in his new compiler. Then he d
mircea_popescu: ecided he wasn't going to tell anyone that this was an error, because he's a dick, and now all your snowflakes are urine and you can't even find the cat."
mircea_popescu: that's exactly what happened : some engineer made 1/0 shorthand for infinity trying to fit their code into the insect
decimation: ascii, the thing is that such systems seem so seductive when they are young and small
decimation: the rot isn't obvious until the next generation comes to try to 'fix' things
decimation: how many bugs are you willing to tolerate?
ozbot: I sent a Freedom of Information Act Request to the FBI over a year ago. They just responded today. :
ozbot: Pentagon Admits "No Solution" To Replace Russian Rockets To Launch US Military Satellites | Zero Hed
ozbot: Russia's Deputy Prime Minister on Twitter: US Can Use Trampolines to Reach Space | Space.com
decimation: the irony is that the US has plenty of rockets that are plenty reliable for human space flight
decimation: the problem is that the vast space-welfare complex can't be made to do anything without billions of $
TestingUnoDosTre: asciilifeform - this comment from zero hedge is great "It shouldn't have taken them this long to figure out sanctions against Russia wouldn't work in the first place. Next they will be passing sanctions against hurricanes and earthquakes, might as well go full retard at this point."
decimation: even the supposed "outsiders" like Musk are really just on the space-welfare dole
decimation: except, there are almost no "fields" in the us that are free of such doles
decimation: honestly if the US wanted to go full-retard, the most profitable way to proceed would be to stop collecting any taxes and run the entire USG on printed money
decimation: the elites are not happy to have the masses know the truth about "foreign policy"
benkay: what is this book of williamsons?
moiety: this is like my life at present ^
decimation: " Jeffrey Sachs was an advisor to the IMF. He also claimed to be an advisor to the Russians. "
mod6: it's good, everytime I read it asciilifeform
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12809 @ 0.00097375 = 12.4728 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00465736 = 0.1677 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.03376027 = 0.1013 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell supay Keep me updated on how your guide is doing
TestingUnoDosTre: ok, slightly retarded here but... how do I register a new nick to an already registered gpgkey via gribble?
benkay: have you tried registering a new nick with that key?
benkay: i hate to suggest the obvious...
benkay: hey nanotube how does changing nicks happen
nanotube: benkay: just /nick <newnick> ?
benkay: alternatively, you could sign the new identity with the old identity's keys saying something along the lines of 'now doing business as' and then ask all your raters to rate your new nick
benkay: nanotube: in wot one cannot register a key to two nicks. how would one change one's wot nick.
nanotube: TestingUnoDosTre: well, if you wanted to do it without my intervention, you can just change key on your old identity to some new key, then register the old key with a new nick. or... you could just ask me to change your otc username.
gribble: Nick 'TestingUnoDosTre', with hostmask 'TestingUnoDosTre!~AndChat31@184.48.161.16', is identified as user 'TestingUnoDosTre', with GPG key id DFBEC17DF96DFB77, key fingerprint 468950118F292A0AA73BCCC3DFBEC17DF96DFB77, and bitcoin address None
TheNewDeal: Goodbye TestingUnoDosTre, hello TheNewDeal
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot TheNewDeal
TheNewDeal: ;;rate nanotube 1 wanted to have my gpg key applied to a different nick, helped me achieve in a timely fashion. Muchos gracias!
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user nanotube has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00097439 = 5.2617 BTC [+]
TheNewDeal: if I go and register TheNewDeal_ under this nick, can I still ;;eauth as TheNewDeal?
nanotube: your irc nick is irrelevant, as long as you have the key for thenewdeal, you can auth as thenewdeal, even if your nick is benkay :)
TheNewDeal: so I could have authed as TestingUnoDosTre while I am thenewdeal, just have to be less retarded?
TheNewDeal: final question. How easy is it to get an online gambling license in Anitgua as a foreigner?
TheNewDeal: anybody have some prime antigua connections?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0044445 = 0.1111 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2010 @ 0.00014741 = 0.2963 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Plastic Zerg, Laughing Protoss | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: mostly a rehashing of mircea_popescu's latest, with an added starcraft race
assbot: Voicing AgentSmurf for 30 minutes.
AgentSmurf: where am i? what is this strange place? what is this sound? my own voice? eh..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00097205 = 4.5686 BTC [-]
fluffypony: and why am I holding all these cloves of garlic?
fluffypony: all these and many more questions will be answered in next week's exciting episode of
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00097184 = 7.7747 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Voicing jordandotdev for 30 minutes.
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TheNewDeal: are beings becoming sentient in bitcoin-assets tonight?
benkay: a bitcoin today is worth how many bitcoin next year?
TestingUnoDosTre: say I want to invest 1 btc in a bitbet that will resolve jan 1 2015
TestingUnoDosTre: how much interest (in btc) should I need for a bet that resolves in half the time, to compare equally
assbot: Voicing agentsmurf for 30 minutes.
benkay: bitbet opened in january?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.03585275 = 0.251 BTC [+] {7}
TestingUnoDosTre: so lets say I want to put 1 btc down on a bet that resolves 1 august 2014
BingoBoingo: It really depends on what you are betting on and who else might want to bet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03627054 = 0.3627 BTC [+] {10}
TestingUnoDosTre: lets just stick to the time value of having 1 btc locked up in a bet for 4 months vs 8 months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0376818 = 0.4145 BTC [+] {11}
BingoBoingo: I'm not sure what you are trying to mean matters much.
BingoBoingo: If you want to lock up a bitcoin on Bitbet, the most important thing is having good information.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.03872165 = 0.3485 BTC [+] {9}
TestingUnoDosTre: so If I'm going to buy a stock option that expires jan 1 2015 of company A
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.038999 = 0.429 BTC [+] {11}
benkay: i think the bitbet return betting the house line is about 0.5%/mo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.038999 = 0.429 BTC [+] {11}
TestingUnoDosTre: but what I am asking is, what is the cost of locking up a bitcoin for a period of time
fluffypony: punkman: I was *so close* to pulling the trigger on that Montrex watch when I saw it, but I couldn't find anything open an "open source Suisse" movement on the web so I figured something was awry...so glad I didn't go for it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03899949 = 0.39 BTC [+] {8}
benkay: hah yes you do recieve a return for placing btc on bitbet
BingoBoingo: TestingUnoDosTre: Well, in this exercise are you betting both sides?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.03936362 = 0.433 BTC [+] {9}
benkay: think about it like this: bitbet pays you interest for providing liquidity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.03966867 = 0.3967 BTC [+] {8}
TestingUnoDosTre: what rate should I pursue (I realize I don't have a control in it), for the two returns to be "equal"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999973 = 0.32 BTC [+] {8}
benkay: you can't guarantee a rate anyways, TestingUnoDosTre
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03067661 = 0.1841 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03070893 = 0.6142 BTC [+] {12}
TestingUnoDosTre: because you could (theoretically again), place another bet down, hoping for that same 4 month return, and you would equal the bet 2 return of 10%
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03128571 = 0.219 BTC [+] {4}
TestingUnoDosTre: I'm not saying you would for sure win these bets. I'm asking, if you did win these bets, what would be the answer for a BTC scenario
BingoBoingo: Honestly given the type of site BitBet is, I would be more concerned with trying to win the bets outright instead of chasing a fixed return.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03202939 = 0.5445 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.03371137 = 0.2023 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-] {3}
TestingUnoDosTre: For instance, if you were going to loan out 1 btc today to two people, one is going to pay you back in 4 months, the second in 8 months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0331923 = 0.4315 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0337105 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Just as soon as you disconnected returns over time from parimutuel betting.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03399998 = 0.612 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0337105 = 0.1011 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.06474168 = 0.1942 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03512634 = 0.7728 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03543999 = 1.0632 BTC [+] {8}
benkay: so you get n% per month
benkay: you get 4n% for gamble a
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0399999 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0310062 = 0.155 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.04006201 = 0.5609 BTC [+] {8}
TestingUnoDosTre: if I could sustain any positive % earnings in BTC / unit of time, my wealth would be skyrocketing in some years time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.04033376 = 0.9277 BTC [+] {11}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3237 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.000974 = 20.6488 BTC [+] {4}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 33 @ 0.03596938 = 1.187 BTC [+] {8}
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ozbot: Btcd + getwork + cgminer = profit | Conformal Systems, LLC.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.07050001 = 0.282 BTC [-]
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ozbot: The dune buggy that can fly - YouTube
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assbot: Voicing julles for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing TestNaut3 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing Sorcier_FXK for 30 minutes.
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ozbot: Roba da ricchi pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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jurov: hi mircea_popescu, deposits pls
jurov: !up ReturnOfTheOp if you insist...
assbot: Voicing ReturnOfTheOp for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing sunshyne for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
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ozbot: The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
CheckDavid: Like there can’t be a larger binary digit than 1
jurov: !up Naphex assbot got resstarted
assbot: Voicing Naphex for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing VanCleef for 30 minutes.
gribble: Nick 'Naphex', with hostmask 'Naphex!~naphex@btcxchange.ro', is identified as user 'Naphex', with GPG key id 64CDBADCE1E0BBAF, key fingerprint F3D76A985F5844814A93F46364CDBADCE1E0BBAF, and bitcoin address 12mVDqdWqFY6zrCqNqgHbxhDPB4ZVUuaTu
VanCleef: yeh just reading the movie idea
VanCleef: i think it would make a good tv show
ThickAsThieves: the ending is the barbarian's own advisor, proposing and convincing him of his first laws of order (hinting at an eventual recreation of the original empire the movie started with)
mircea_popescu: but it has an event. how many episodes before, and how many after ? either way it's... two tv shows
CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: could I voice VanCleef in case he were not already voiced?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah. that's imbalanced. it proposes the idiocy is somehow okay.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i guess it does that. and yes they are. but it ain't the political statement i wish to make :)
CheckDavid: Ok I will test myself if you don't want to answer
VanCleef: The term setpiece is often used more broadly to describe any important dramatic or comedic highpoint in a film or story, particularly those that provide some kind of dramatic payoff, resolution, or transition.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's why you're in the marbles and i'm in the furs, because you actually believe that :D
mircea_popescu: VanCleef indicated i nthe text by "This scene makes or breaks the whole film"
VanCleef: yeah i was thinking that when i read it
CheckDavid: In Wisconsin, it is illegal to serve apple pie in public restaurants without cheese
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves btw, if it makes you feel better : <chetty> your movie needs a sequel <mircea_popescu> well sure. <mircea_popescu> you wanna make money, always leave room for a sequel.
VanCleef: you could just pay someone to write the script
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mircea_popescu: i could. but i prefer to give someone the chance to write the script.
mircea_popescu: the greatness of money, you get to make choices and have preferences.
assbot: Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
VanCleef: who would be your target audience for this film?
CheckDavid: I wonder if one can get government funds to research and develop crypto currencies
jurov: CheckDavid: there are plenty of bachelor/master theses on it
mircea_popescu: VanCleef or people whoi like alma-tadema, or people who like to see men get fucked, or w/e
jurov: it's certain they will continue with it
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid if you had read the logs, there was even a cushy us govt job offered.
VanCleef: to be honest its a lil over my head, i hvave to read it a few times to fully understand it
VanCleef: i wanted to do a homage to 80's action films and do one about the most powerful groups of people that run the world today and they all work in this underground sex trade where they only use women as currency
mircea_popescu: why not have them fuck ductaped baby chickens, and use THAT as the currency.
ThickAsThieves: i'm gonna make a post in MY blog about the new ending, cuz apparently it's all the rage these days, blogging on top of what mp says ;)
bounce: ducktaped chickens, bio-fleshlights? the sheer depravity. minus personpoints for you!
mircea_popescu: no but i mean, if he's going for the outrage value, at least go all the way.
ThickAsThieves: i guess, in a way, my blog *is* your blog, since you sparked it
mircea_popescu: this is where i link that "all one" california soap nuttery
CheckDavid: Like a government official came here to offer it? Lol
ozbot: We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
VanCleef: anywho yeh you should develop your story a bit more
mircea_popescu: i gave him some freedom implicit there, so his job doesn't suck
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, i don't even run a studio. chances are, it'll never get made anyway
VanCleef: that's okey studios pay like 50k just to own scripts and keep them under their desk
VanCleef: then they pay you more if they decide to make the movie
VanCleef: i only wrote one script but i deleted it recently
VanCleef: that's how it works in hollywood
ozbot: Harlan Ellison -- Pay the Writer - YouTube
mircea_popescu: and ellison has had a few scripts optioned, so i guess he'd know.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 51 @ 0.03242383 = 1.6536 BTC [+] {9}
bounce: 50k for 120 pages. hm. maybe worth a shot.
bounce: how to fill 120 pages worth of screenplay from irc logs? now there's a fiddy kay question.
mircea_popescu: bounce that's for believers. for engineers, it's 120 pages for a lottery ticket in an unauthorised lottery with an alleged cash prize of 50k (conditions apply)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.032477 = 0.6171 BTC [+] {10}
VanCleef: i'm not an asshole, pay me mircea :P
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VanCleef: anywho this voiced stuff sucks
VanCleef: athero or whatever his name was had good wot ratings
VanCleef: just kick people or mute them if you dont want them to talk
jurov: [13:57] <mircea_popescu> jurov on it << dun see it
VanCleef: alot of scammers were using wot and had good ratings
mircea_popescu: VanCleef you need to read the logs. this was discussed to death.
VanCleef: cant we just go back to how it use to be?
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ozbot: In the Spirit of the Devil’s Advocate, I Wear What Suits You
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assbot: Voicing CheckDavid for 30 minutes.
CheckDavid: I don't get why they are so skinny though
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mircea_popescu: what's with these people and body painting unhealthy looking women ?
pankkake: that was a tentative joke. anyway, have to agree on the trend of linking to trilema on every blog post
mircea_popescu: well what are you gonna do, ban me ? DO NOT HATE ME BECAUSE I AM BEEEEAUTIFULH!
pankkake: BingoBoingo and benkay are good at the game too
pankkake: though I actually read your first post thanks to a trilema pingback, so, it werks
mircea_popescu: pankkake do you like analytix the fuck out of those blogs ?
ThickAsThieves: even when we break out of the channel and its impossible log, we create a web of cross-referenced blogs to further fuck with newcomers
pankkake: I'm susbscribed to trilema comments so I see the links, that's all
mircea_popescu: wait, you can still be subscribed to comments ? like via email ?
pankkake: but I rarely see this practice (linking to posts) nowadays, even though this probably gave the name to "blogosphere"
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pankkake: now it's all about CENTRALIZED platforms!
mircea_popescu: i love linking. and i still believe in the old concepts of the web, from back like 1999
pankkake: web2.0 also had "semantic web" but it never really existed :(
pankkake: we don't talk anymore unfortunately
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mircea_popescu: web 1.0 was and sitll is good enough. in the sense of way better than any walled garden bullshit.
pankkake: semantic web is all about urls and proper markup
ThickAsThieves: i saw someone use ethereum and the like as a Web 3.0 reference
ThickAsThieves: maybe we'll just start calling generations that way instead of Generation X, it's Web 3.0!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves im kinda curious how far the nonsense will go. specificaslly, if the comatose media-only "Web 2.0" will be forgotten and a new web 2.0 will be enacted, out of the same pressed shitboard,
mircea_popescu: or if they will take 2.0 as a thing that actually existed, and continue the count.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 19 @ 0.06474168 = 1.2301 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: let me guess. yet another ex child actor turned bitcoin investiteur ?
ThickAsThieves: But the idea that underage boys were drugged and raped at the Encino estate, and sometimes threatened with guns by Collins-Rector, is hardly new. Egan was one of several young men to make such allegations in lawsuits filed against Collins-Rector, Shackley and Pierce 14 years ago -- court cases in which the plaintiffs won $4.5 million from Collins-Rector and Shackley by default because
ThickAsThieves: the trio had fled the country (Pierce reached a settlement).
mircea_popescu: so it'd be safe to say he was attracted to bitcoin by bruce wagner ?
ThickAsThieves: Pierce's most recent bio says he is co-founder of GoCoin, ExpressCoin, KnCMiner.cn and Robocoin Asia.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if asicminer has figured out yet that it can probably make a decent penny selling such "board seats"
ThickAsThieves: GoCoin, isnt that the one all the SeedCoinFund people are butthurt about "missing" out on?
mircea_popescu: to celebrities desperate for retroactive "involvement" who still are noobish enough to imagine this will allow them to bypass the wot.
ThickAsThieves: i think the asicminer board is in an ill state actually
ThickAsThieves: they won't remove me from their email list so i still see hints of it
ThickAsThieves: yeah that's true, when i was there 10 people might show up, but only 3 or 4 ever talked
mircea_popescu: lol. ah if only they had enough sense to do what told a while back.
ThickAsThieves: The US economy created 288,000 jobs in April, the strongest monthly job creation since January 2012.
ThickAsThieves: "The one thing I would be careful with though is the decline in the unemployment rate, the decline in the unemployment rate was a function of the labour force falling by 806,000, that is gargantuan decline," he added.
mircea_popescu: you want to leave, everyone you know here wants to leave, what's so surprising ?
mircea_popescu: a lot have left, a lot more are leaving and a helluva lot more will be leaving.
ThickAsThieves: well part of my dafuckness is how they are all "It's a flat out good report. All of the metrics that you want to see improve, did," said Tom Porcelli
ThickAsThieves: but then are like, well a million people left, so there's that
mircea_popescu: well... the reports that were made to make you feel good are made in the way that we agreed will make you feel good.
mircea_popescu: it seems to me like this is slow onset schizophrenia, mydear boy.
mircea_popescu: im kinda surprised nobody is selling slow-release xanax dildos yet.
ThickAsThieves: miserable dude in camo eating at the place he cleans shit
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ozbot: Lectia de humor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform course the flaw there is to assume people whose tech is bow and arrow have the means to fight a Ww.
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assbot: Voicing stickie for 30 minutes.
ozbot: The idea for a great film… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 25000 @ 0.00021725 = 5.4313 BTC [+]
artifexd: ;;later tell jurov Do you round deposits down to the nearest btc?
mircea_popescu: jurov and whoever else was waiting : mpex deposits flushed.
ozbot: O metoda simpla si eficienta de-a produce un blog excelent, pe pasi. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea
pankkake: if only it was written in a simple and eficient language
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Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: ბ is a mouse? // looks like an apple to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00014696 = 0.2939 BTC [-]
assbot: Voicing rgbiv for 30 minutes.
ThickAsThieves: fwiw those characters appear much different depending on font in use
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ThickAsThieves: “A lot of these things are difficult to verify or prove”
mircea_popescu: So, who is Stefan Thomas, and why is he the person Powell called?
mircea_popescu: Thomas is Chief Technical Officer at Ripple Labs, a company that created its own payment protocol and prides itself on a transparent public ledger of transactions."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.60318124 BTC to 8`283 shares, 31428 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: how to be so wrong you have no idea of exactly how wrong you are : read coindesk.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 85.30121001 BTC to 80`673 shares, 105737 satoshi per share
ThickAsThieves: and looking back at last year's AMS conference, he was pretty quiet on the panels
mircea_popescu: anyway, 5k words and no mention of the actual point this all started from.
ozbot: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 | Bitcointa.lk
ozbot: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 57 | Bitcointa.lk
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kakobrekla: how did he quit, he is still providing support
ozbot: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG | Page 93 | Bitcointa.lk
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ozbot: Dargo | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: Last Activity: Feb 27, 2014 Joined: Jul 8, 2011 is what i get
ozbot: View the profile of Dargo
artifexd: Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? They had less than 10btc of volume in the last 24 hours. Talk about a fucked up signal.
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mircea_popescu: artifexd you obviously don't have the "valuable skills" to understand these things :D
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Apocalyptic: <artifexd> Bloomberg is using Kraken as the source? WTF? << same reaction here
gribble: cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <cedivad> i actually have one, but i never really wrote about hashfast, bitcointa.lk or any other of my web-related experiences (i manage some really huge websites)...
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ThickAsThieves: haha, cleaning old stuff and found a business plan i did to open a record store, i was pretty young obv: "XXXX XXXX will help me with of retail store's responsibilities. He is an extremely trusted friend and works very well with people. I whole-heartedly feel he is my best and favorite choice for the position."
ThickAsThieves: I kicked him off the project shortly after, and we nearly came to blows as roommates not long after that. I never got past writing the plan, thankfully.
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fluffypony: I always enjoyed it as a way to cement my thoughts
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fluffypony: caption: "rioters trying to convince the police to install vlc media player"
ozbot: Half of people living in Illinois and Connecticut want to get the hell out - Vox
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bitcoinpete: "Montanans, Hawaiians, and Mainers are least likely to say they'd want to leave, with fewer than one-quarter of those residents saying they'd move"
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony no, i meant as a kid. they do this "o write a business plan" many places.
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ozbot: Trying something new. | Marie-Lynn Richard
bitcoinpete: "For a few months, I have been developing business relationships with people in Bitcoin. As with any of the communities I have joined and thrived in the past 25 years, I am paying my dues in Bitcoin by doing some volounteer work."
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bitcoinpete: " So far my experience of Bitcoin has been rather sad. I received my first Bitcoin paycheck a few months ago and promptly lost 30% of it due to the dip. I was then almost unable to extract it from Vault of Satoshi because they stopped sending out checks. I was able to pay for my membership to Bitcoin Alliance and Bitcoin Foundation at least. "
fluffypony: why would she pay for memberships to the foundation?
bitcoinpete: pankkake: ya, her situation sounds crummy. i invited her here so maybe she can do something in the future
assbot: Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
fluffypony: MarieLynn: we've just been talking about you :)
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fluffypony: so the "trying something new" post is the first post I've read on your blog
fluffypony: which is the case for mostly everyone here, I would imagine
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fluffypony: (also I had to Google aspie polymath and file that under today's new learning:)
pankkake: surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :|
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MarieLynn: I have been transparent about my life on the Internet for almost 24 years
MarieLynn: Now I am being transparent abotu how hard it is to get into bitcoin and stay housed!!
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MarieLynn: I am a lonely basement hacker. I build websites and online businesses.
pankkake: do you mean earn a living with bitcoin?
MarieLynn: But my entire life is online, what do you want to know specifically?
fluffypony: MarieLynn: nothing specific, and thank you - that was very enlightening :)
MarieLynn: I currently work for Charlie Shrem but we are done with the urgent stuff. I want to continue doing what I do but for cool bitcoin startup.
mod6: small typo: homoeless
pankkake: it's cheaper than the bitcoin foundation membership (free) and is actually useful :p
pankkake: the wot allows us to to useful things like:
gribble: Error: 'bitcoinpete' is not a valid integer.
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fluffypony: kakobrekla: somehow I don't think bitcoinpete is profiting off his blog ;)
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MarieLynn: I am not a frequent user of IRC since 1997, sry
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pankkake: didn't they rip off their shareholders too?
bitcoinpete: pankkake: yup, they generally blow dead bears
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pankkake: MarieLynn: oh so the French on the blog is because you're from Canada. Tabernacle !
MarieLynn: My boyfriend has a gun license and apparently that got him validated. I only have provincial health card with photo and passport and thats not good enough.é
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fluffypony: between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French
MarieLynn: I want a bitcoin ATM card else my hopes of a bitcoin life are limited.
pankkake: fluffypony: your only play is to learn romanian and crush us all
fluffypony: I'm too busy learning German so I can gossip with my mother-in-law about my wife ;)
MarieLynn: Thanks for the CAVirtex thread I will rad carefully. But what are the issues other than ID verification woes?!
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: i did a few german lesson on duolingo, orangensaft!
MarieLynn: my blog about crypto, has an english podcast as well.
bitcoinpete: MarieLynn: ripping off "investors" on havelock, joseph david being a stooge...
MarieLynn: Thanks for the keywords bitcoinpete
pankkake: well if you want to buy or sell bitcoins, you can use bitcoin-otc
http://bitcoin-otc.com/ - of course, you're dealing with users directly, so you have to be careful *who* your are dealing with
fluffypony: MarieLynn: so since I live in South Africa I've also struggled with that - we only had 1 exchange (now 2) and their volumes are terrible. I can cash out from BitStamp to my bank account, but it is irritating. Two solutions I've found: 1. If it's bigger than $1k use BitPay. Sign up, get verified, and then invoice yourself when you need money paid out to your Ca bank account. 2. For smaller amounts, use person-to-person trading either on
fluffypony: Freenode in #bitcoin-otc (which also uses the WoT mentioned earlier) or on localbitcoins (you can arrange to meet people face-to-face, and lower your risk by not sending anything till you have cash-in-hand)
fluffypony: oh well pankkake already mentioned 2 :)
ozbot: Bitcoin Cafe in Limbo at Mt. Gox Building - Japan Real Time - WSJ
bitcoinpete: "According to people at the exchange, the 28-year-old Frenchman was slow to grasp Mt. Gox’s troubles. As recently as early February, he didn’t imagine most of the virtual currency possessed by Mt. Gox and its customers were gone, they say."
bitcoinpete: "Believing Mt. Gox’s troubles were manageable, Mr. Karpelès devoted much of his time to the bitcoin café"
bitcoinpete: and since when does karpelès have that accent in his name?
fluffypony: "It was to feature a rich menu of French quiches and coffee drinks"
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> surprising. perhaps because I know too much aspie polymaths :| << too many, frenchie. much is for french fries :D
pankkake: Mark or Karpelès aren't very French looking name
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: you mean his name isn't Ḱąȑṕệļễŝ? who knew.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn ok, so transparent about your life for 24 years ? gimme the highligts, how old are you, what do you do ?
assbot: Voicing trixisowned for 30 minutes.
bitcoinpete: "I have 246 cos in my database of bitcoin-related businesses and I did not know about that group :) IRC is so vintage!" -MarieLynn <<246 cos, guaranteed none on mpex
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MarieLynn: I am 43, I have been developing for the Web since 1994
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pankkake: "I'm thinking the program would upload the GPG private key in case you ever lost it" that? lol
fluffypony: pankkake: "If not found then popup dialog asking for username/password & download GPG private key"
fluffypony: so your GPG private key, the essence of securing your identity with GPG, is protected behind a mere username and password
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: did he go on to create Keybase.io?
MarieLynn: ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 8DD69C90
gribble: Error: '8DD69C90' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> between Apocalyptic, pankkake, davout, and now MarieLynn (and who knows who else) I feel at such a disadvantage for not speaking French << nubbins.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so when are we renaming the room #bitcoin-ásséts ?
pankkake: speaking of passwords, I'm slowly moving towards requiring more than a password everywhere to access my data
MarieLynn: I want to join the WOT but I cannot find my long form id, it's in the friggin UBUNTU key server.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i hate accents and shit. i write romanian without too
pankkake: MarieLynn: gpg -k --keyid-format=long (if you use the CLI)
MarieLynn: ;;gpg eregister MarieLynn 59748D208DD69C90
MarieLynn: So are you guys here all the time? 24/7
assbot: Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
MarieLynn: what does voicing mean? (remember no irc since 1997 here...)
assbot: Voicing MarieLynn for 30 minutes.
pankkake: if the channel has the +m mode, only +v users can talk. otherwise, it's just vanity
fluffypony: "Mr. Karpelès purchased a $35,000 Backen pastry oven and a $23,000 La Marzocco coffee machine, say the people involved in the project. He also hired an independent pastry consultant and put a Tibanne employee full-time on the café project."
fluffypony: kakobrekla: how else do you start a Bitcoin café without a pastry consultant?
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn there's a chick here, by that name. she's in her 20s, tries to run online communities and also likes cats.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
pankkake: MarieLynn: you're missing the last step, decrypting the OTP, I guess
MarieLynn: Well awesome for her. When I was 20 I had to compase the facebook and photocopy it and send it through the regular mail :)
ozbot: Marie-Lynn Richard | Social Media & Web Technologist / Entrepreneur / Mom / Crafty Bitch
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ozbot: Magazine Temps Libres | Marie-Lynn Richard
MarieLynn: These are entries from my project files :) I just imported those they are not yet correctly formatted.
mircea_popescu: "you love exploring the world but you got no money. what do you do ?"
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mircea_popescu: you'd expect "suck a mean cock", but no. "go to a museum"
ozbot: Behind the Scenes of the Original Face Book | Marie-Lynn Richard
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fluffypony: or just put in your Encarta 1995 CD and browse
mircea_popescu: "What does a girls do when guys online keep asking for her photo?"
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
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MarieLynn: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:a1338dc312fcbfa6cddc12fd4ccd03a73196ac87572155292907c7c8
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gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user MarieLynn with key 59748D208DD69C90
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MarieLynn: I used to compose/compile the facebook by hand and send it through snail mail
Apocalyptic: MarieLynn, everytime i read your nick it reminds me of Merrill Lynch
MarieLynn: Okay, I made my way through this WOT thingy !
pankkake: you should sue Mark Zuckerberg
kakobrekla: you are able to voice yourself now btw, by typing !up to assbot private chat, MarieLynn .
MarieLynn: I invented SEO too, just so we are on the same page LOL
MarieLynn: What do you mean, there are like 8 on the front page
MarieLynn: I am launching my own altcoin soon BTW
MarieLynn: TaT, I will add it to my database. There are almost 700 coins in my friggin database.
ThickAsThieves: yeah you can get rid of the other Altcoins probly, would be much cleaner!
MarieLynn: I will look at it seriously promise. It's my self-imposed job to figure out all this
ThickAsThieves: you might enjoy the linked thread and other services on the home page
MarieLynn: Well... There are useful alt coins or coins that have a very specific niche, I believe in those but the coingen copy paste alt coins is like vomit
kakobrekla: you guys are worse than traveling agents
MarieLynn: Our coin is going to be so unique, I am not even sure exchanges will touch it with a ten foot pole... Will be interesting
pankkake: I made a coin that no exchange touched
pankkake: Bernankoin. they didn't touch it for good reason, it simply cannot have a non-decreasing value
MarieLynn: I am sure there are applications for our concept coin but so far it's just a surrealist coin R&D experiment.
fluffypony: that should tell you everything you need to know
MarieLynn: Do any of you want to co-found a 100% new coin concept? It's going to be super fun. Right now we need a crypto-educated developer (wallets) but the rest we have already written.
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fluffypony: MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer
fluffypony: I'm much better at being an A to all the Ds on the forum
MarieLynn: Wouldn't that put you above the average alt coin developer Fluffy? :)
pankkake: I learned truly nothing by altcoining. My code even made GCC emit warnings and I didn't care
MarieLynn: Is this a 24/7 thing or do you have mneetup times?
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pankkake: it's 24/7, but you can get a reply hours later. it's generally as everywhere on IRC
ozbot: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]
pankkake: if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy
pankkake: and by expense I mean that when the first ones sue, there will be nothing left, not that they would have gotten anything by playing nice
fluffypony: MarieLynn: if you want to up yourself you can just message !up to assbot
fluffypony: pankkake: what's this 4 year investigation thing? playing catch up
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pankkake: Missouri Securities Division sending the issuer a letter. not much more is known
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assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 163.71643613 BTC
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pankkake: I'd think b-a has a higher female ratio than most bitcoin channels
mircea_popescu: ;;rate MarieLynn 1 she's been failing at succeeding for decades now. that takes mettle.
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kakobrekla: prolly same goes for mps conf, but that is saved cause of the low attendance count overall :D
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> MarieLynn: unfortunately I'm a poor C developer << how da heck are you poor now.
fluffypony: poor: "of a low or inferior standard or quality."
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> if the second ones get something out of the company, even at the expense of the firsts, I'd be happy << need a company first.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> pankkake most = any << defo. there's what, like a dozen girls here.
fluffypony: thestringpuller: depends on the product, but for personal loans we get shafted here :/
MarieLynn: Mircea I've been succeeding at failing rather LOL :)
pankkake: I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them provocative enough
kakobrekla: you mean you like to sound like a pussy
mod6: im slow typer too :/
kakobrekla: i was accused of same, then told pussies have a big heart. so go with that.
MarieLynn: Mircea, thanks for the Tweet. I used to buy a lot of art from Romania, I kept the cute export papers in French :)
mircea_popescu: pussies have a big heart because all the cocks coming in and out enlarge it in the end.
ozbot: Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake
MarieLynn: Student art from an assistant professor. Most of it counts as cubist :)
mircea_popescu: but I try to make my statements harder to contradict while keeping them absurd enough
pankkake: I thought your technique was to drown in words
pankkake: "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default
pankkake: I just want to rotate it for some reason
ThickAsThieves: well you guys can blog about superiority, pankakke about inferiority, and i'll take ulteriority
pankkake: who will blog about seniority?
MarieLynn: Have fun rotating, there's a lot of kookey things goin on in there ;)
pankkake: oh it's a horse! of course, it's romanian
fluffypony: pankkake: did you just admit to being old?
pankkake: I wouln't be considered old, I don't really like being old, but I feel old
kakobrekla: yeah well tell that to lampelina when she wants me to remove a spider or such.
mike_c: no, non-gender specific insults are fine
pankkake: mike_c: that whole campaign… ugh :(
kakobrekla: yeah, well the stigma did not create itself
mike_c: pankkake: i know. the thought process of whoever wrote those.. it's painful to think about.
MarieLynn: Hey you guys, can you pause calling eact other pussies to look at another animal? :P
MarieLynn: Going into pre-order pretty soon. You like?
MarieLynn: It goes with a feature article I am writing about a brain wallet we are trying to decrypt right now
mike_c: no, that goose is definitely shitting bitcoin.
MarieLynn: well, yes, technically, these birds have only one hole so they are either turds or eggs LOL
pankkake: this is actually quite fascinating
mike_c: but geese don't lay eggs standing up
kakobrekla: bitcoin dev replies: "yeah but its still in beta you know!"
MarieLynn: do you guys think bitcoins are golden eggs or turds?
MarieLynn: For me it's hard to know, there is always a fricking bitcoin dip right after I get paid!!
ThickAsThieves: i think bitcoins are just millions of satoshis in disguise
mike_c: you get paid in bitcoin? nice.
pankkake: well, don't get paid in bitcoin if you don't intend to hold, really
MarieLynn: I need the money dude I mistakenly thought that going into bitcoin would get me bitcoins... like more than 1 LOL
pankkake: perhaps getting a good paying fiat job should be your immediate priority then
MarieLynn: I am still working fiat contracts.
MarieLynn: Difference is people will come to me without effort for fiat jobs but I have to wheel and deal like crazy for bitcoins with 22 year olds... it's not the same market.
mike_c: well, average in here is definitely > 22.
ozbot: [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
pankkake: yes, well; keep the fiat jobs, buy coins / create the right bitcoin market for you
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pankkake: average on bitcointalk is probably <22 :(
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MarieLynn: I have decades of project and staff management experience so I do not expect to work in bitcoin as a developer. Bitcoin needs leadership and guidance for its 22 year old employees!! I have lots of experience developing talent 19-25
kakobrekla: no no nevermind i said that Apocalyptic .
ozbot: Twitter / MikeyMehedin: @Josh_Wise @dogecoin @reddit ...
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07202477 = 2.881 BTC [-] {6}
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: a very specific subset of them, southern amuricans
ozbot: Poor and Stupid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: more interested in drive-thrus, segregation, and surviving hurricanes than crypto
mike_c: hmm.. it's always scary when you build something semi-complicated and it just works the first time.
mike_c: must be missing something..
pankkake: it's never working the first time. you just haven't found where it goes wrong
ozbot: Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive
mike_c: can naggum say anything in less than 1000 words?
mike_c: i agree with naggum in a lot of ways, but i ended up in python instead of lisp. i was just writing a C module for python and it was a brutal reminder of much time and energy is spent making sure i didn't miss dereferencing something in some random error case that would cause a leak, etc.
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bitcoinpete: "Consider how the Catholic Church might have mitigated some of the deep pain caused by its abusive priests had it acted with the kind of boldness shown by N.B.A. Commissioner Adam Silver. Instead, it chose cover-ups, denial and blame shifting — the usual default modes for institutions trying to protect themselves." << default of institutions that last
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1040 @ 0.00014647 = 0.1523 BTC [-] {3}
MarieLynn: I am really glad unpaid athletes are getting national attention for their cause. They get tuition but no time to study... dumb...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07399993 = 0.222 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: is there anything to learn in college anyway? :)
pankkake: higher education has been a interesting experience, but I could have skipped (and did) most classes
MarieLynn: I started in Web in 1994, I was only 23.
MarieLynn: Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :)
MarieLynn: I do everything in Web. I have held all the jobs!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00097404 = 24.2536 BTC [+] {3}
MarieLynn: I've dropped out of college TWICE!!
MarieLynn: But I was in all the committees at college, no time for class.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03149007 = 0.3149 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: nothing else creates collisions like college does
pankkake: it made a way more social person, for sure. that and alcohol
pankkake: MarieLynn: you really do ALL THE THINGS!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00097017 = 4.8509 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: "You may think that walled-garden access to Facebook or Google is inferior to neutral Internet access—and you’d be right. But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing"
bounce: I'm not sure that's a valid premise
atcbot: 33k@225 23k@224 6k@223 | 2k@170 90k@156 10k@155
bitcoinpete: "Net neutrality, in other words, would not only keep the poorest offline, it would keep investment in poor-country telecom infrastructure down for longer."
bitcoinpete: helping the poor with us gov corps isn't helping them at all
ozbot: Loper OS » “The Internet of the Future”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0314991 = 0.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.03349229 = 0.134 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.06474168 = 0.3885 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: If the choice were between arsenet and Dial-up, I'd probably choose dial up
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I once produced a version of a web site I ran as a gopher site, in 2011, Library school project
MarieLynn: Went to a FidoNet Con last year :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.00659993 = 0.132 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: Nasty Security Flaw In OAuth, OpenID - Slashdot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2629 @ 0.00014366 = 0.3777 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: Shame encryption on Amateur radio frequencies is a crime.
BingoBoingo: 2 meter band could make for some nice mesh networks
pankkake: and keeping the romanians from stealing it
BingoBoingo: All of the good technologies come with expiration dates.
BingoBoingo: Very good point. I supposed 2m because it is just so common.
ThickAsThieves: lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places
BingoBoingo: Fuck them. The decimal can move two spaces to the left
ThickAsThieves: how do they not see that an arbitrary change will only cause confusion and likely fail at being adopted
pankkake: yeah, I know that story. copper stealing is a worldwide plague done by various people
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Optic net is also a possibility. Fiber without the fiber.
pankkake: and some don't even know how to spot copper and cut the fiber
joecool: my state had a unique copper problem
joecool: we kept getting floods so people threw out things like refrigerators (with coils)
joecool: the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: the adoption argument is that it seems "more like a currency" because we're used to 2 decimal places, and most account software can't work with more than 2 anyway
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Have the accounting software work satoshis then.
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: well, yes, that's exactly what's been suggested
joecool: fluffypony: well could adopt the tonal system and TBC like Luke-Jr wanted :P
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: True. Picking the radio bands over US style distances presents challenges though.
BingoBoingo: Of course. Stationwagon net is always an option.
joecool: 1000's of km? gonna need relays or a signal that can bounce
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07254245 = 0.9431 BTC [-] {3}
bounce: usenet? can start with resurrecting uucp (or fido)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0725104 = 0.7976 BTC [-] {3}
bounce: there's some interesting digital modulations about. if I ever get around to a HAM licence I'd probably still dump crypted data on the wire along with a readable call sign
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.07237324 = 0.8685 BTC [-] {5}
bounce: who says fido depends on copper?
joecool: lol yeah cannot do that :P
bounce: who's to know? I'm doing experiments with me mate
bounce: "yeah new modulation guv"
BingoBoingo: bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch
bounce: one option might be to get a boating radio licence. they're already throwing packet over those frequencies for email-to-boat
artifexd: ThickAsThieves: Had it been done at the beginning 1mn satoshis to the bitcoin would have made more sense. That would have made 2.1 billion bitcoin in total and maybe that number would have made people register that 21 million was not an arbitrary number and making coins with more is just a fucking headache.
bounce: well, then forget about the licence and go entirely pirate with a spread-spectrum frequency-hopping whatever construct.
bounce: or stick to linking up wifi nodes with dish antennae. that goes a while too.
bounce: the thing there is that you need ready access to hardware, or at least schematics simple enough for the hobbyist to cobble together.
bounce: doesn't have to be very efficient. ttl everything will do as long as it works.
joecool: 20-30mi with 5GHZ line of sight is feasible, i used to live on a mountain and experimented with some pretty long links
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47277687 = 2.3639 BTC [-] {5}
joecool: there's a site you can use to check what mountains are in the way
joecool: asciilifeform: need height
fluffypony: joecool: we should suggest TonalDogecoin
joecool: again, a mountain helps a lot
joecool: i had a 30mi clear shot from my back deck of old house to an observation deck @ a state park
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> "let me tell you a story…" contradictor falls asleep, win by default << o lies and slander. my stories kick ass
jborkl: www.bcoinnews.com < see how well bitcoin investigations go
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> yeah, well the stigma did not create itself << stigma means, of course, a stain.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> maybe im simpleminded << buzz off. next you're going to claim you're psychopath too ?!
bounce: bunch of those would be a convenient start. though I really would prefer a nice high gain omni on top.
bounce: it's a proven design. now move the radio to some neverland(, and see which military outfit shows up)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you are mistaken in the following sense : i ruled, undisturbed, undisturbable, before the internet was invented.
mircea_popescu: should a government - any government - take things back to that level, it'd be to their detriment, not to mine.
mircea_popescu: the jury's still out on the topic of whether they can win 2014. the jury however is not out on whether they can win 1994.
BingoBoingo: bounce you know a number of missile targeting systems seek RF emissions.
bounce: once "TSHTF" enforcement agencies will become haphazard in their actions, so nicely spread out stashes would help a lot
bounce thinks the discussion is not constructive. anybody recall why the internet is structured like it is? because it can withstand damage and route around it.
joecool: asciilifeform: why not use existing infrastructure, figure out how to inject a signal into powerline
bounce: the goal isn't to cook up an invulnerable system. the goal is to cook up a resilient system. ten different systems working together would be even better.
joecool: asciilifeform: yeah i knew that much, but could still use HV lines to go a distance, no?
bounce: shit, do fido or uucp over long-range bluetooth for all I care. with nodes hid in stones.
ozbot: Q15X25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
joecool: asciilifeform: the idea would be to mesh a town, and use HV lines to link to other towns
ozbot: These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog
mircea_popescu: "The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE’s assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been “under-banked.” I must note, however, there
mircea_popescu: is substantial political risk with this investment. We, as investors, do not know how the Cypriot government will act toward a new financial institution like this. This is especially true given the political turmoil occuring in Ukraine and the Crimea region."
mircea_popescu: you imagine this situation of perfect loyalty and imperfect communications.
bounce: what'd be the most widely available stuff that does ssb? I'd expect 27mc. which, since there's lots of crap going on there anyway, wouldn't be a bad band to use
mircea_popescu: such a thing is nonsensical, much like any scenario breaing thermodynamicsa.
mircea_popescu: but the transition happens in its own time for its own reasons, you see.
mircea_popescu: that's why it's cheap and effectual : we don't seduce women, we just deign to notice the ones that've seduced themselves already.
jborkl: you cant tell me they really referenced BTCjam on credit ratings?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the article says x is worse than y. thus it's about x, not y.
jborkl: well, I guess people really refernced spongebobs bestie too
jborkl: Maybe Patricks Foreskin investment total return fund
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> must be missing something.. << or you've just been touched by the gods for once.
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mircea_popescu: i noticed that is how you must write everything about these things
mircea_popescu: <MarieLynn> Before that I was a tour guide across North America, I started at 18. And a nanny too :) << now how do you figure that being a tour guide and a nanny transitions to providing leadership services for the world's most important project ?
jborkl: You get to listen to a bunch of titybabies cry all day?
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> But if the neutralistas got their way, people in developing countries wouldn’t have better Internet access; many of them would have nothing" << omfg who the shit cares about the poor, what sort of braindamaged argument is this.
bounce: hah, double post. n'mind then.
bounce: it'd be useful to have a bursting service on your radio
mircea_popescu: and i can't catch up because you're all into explody talkmode
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much exactly. which is why a lot more "fuck the poor, they're less than dirt" needs to be stated explicitly.
mircea_popescu: otherwise the general fucktarded populace may end up confused, cause they're simple signal processors.
mircea_popescu: they keep hearing "coca cola is a drink" they end up thinking it's a drink.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> living in usa, i admit i'm rather surprised that it is 2014 and i'm not yet forced to pay $500/mo to get something other than ArsebookNet << i think they're running way behind schedule.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and wonders like fidonet will return from the grave. << where do you think you're now ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony lmao "chinese rules". i dunno dood, afaik the chinese are the most druggy whoring of the whole lot.
bounce: that oauth hole isn't really fixable, is it?
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> lordy, the forum and bitpay wanna move the bitcoin decimal to two places << enemies of the people.
assbot: Voicing SuchWow for 30 minutes.
bounce: superfluous apostrophe is superfluous
mircea_popescu: <joecool> the municipalities though would sell scrap licenses for these discarded items and arrest anyone who picked it up without a permit << fucking outrageous. selling licenses on MY trash ? heh.
joecool: mircea_popescu: yeah, the same logic applies on recyclables
SuchWow: Thanks, first I've heard of the chan :)
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> and ignored << just because some inconsequential idiots a la bitpay & the forum are herping away dun mean anything's been ignored. you can't ignore the judge, or the bullet.
Namworld: Move decimals to two places? You mean as in making 1 BTC = 100 satoshi?
fluffypony: how are they feeding values in to an accounting system anyway?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> bounce: HAMs tend to be a territorial and snitchy bunch << only because no real political pressure has been applied to them yet, because nobody gave a shit. normally the sewer rats are also a snitchy, territorial bunch. nevertheless, nobody in the lower east side would talk to a cop, pre ww2.
fluffypony: coz if it's programmatic they should be working in satoshis anyway
Namworld: What? That's retarded. We'd end up with 2000 BTC to the dollar and a shitload of BTC. Plus that wouldn't change anything at all, actually.
mircea_popescu: Namworld they imagine it'd make more noobs buy, and so make their worthless holdings worth somerthing.
Namworld: Plus you know a few places would scam people "We only owe you X BTC" and the generic moron would go "I knew it, BTC under 1 dollar by the end of the year."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> good luck setting up a line-of-sight anything in u.s. suburbia. << why ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: oh, he's an op in #dogecoin
SuchWow: I hang out in a large number of bitcoin and dogecoin related chans
mircea_popescu: Namworld i can see that, yeah. there's nothing like "confusion" when the "confused" stands to make a buck from it.
SuchWow: Looking through your websites now, very impressive info.
Namworld: Go in suburbia, stand any random spot, look around. Line of sight to plenty of solid points will be found. Get creative. (Are we still talking about creating a comm mesh?)
mircea_popescu: you can have flying objects in suburbia, you can definitely have stuff hid inside tree tops, etc.
mircea_popescu: so trendon shavers managed to funel ~70k through his paypal account. to which paypal gave no trouble at all. why aren't they co-defendants in his case ?
mircea_popescu: 11k for gas and groceries. and then they claim no inflation eh ?
mircea_popescu: "proceeds on btc sold : 600k. trading losses, 150k. net 450k" heh.
mircea_popescu: he's almost as bad as the forum average, 25% loss over a year.
mircea_popescu: well that all depends, i guess. what's to keep you from cutting a square foot window in the tree ?
mircea_popescu: how many stoolies, how many eyes and who;'s going to derp on your land ?
mircea_popescu: accidents happen, and stoolies are in all times and places the first to also have problems.
mircea_popescu: as i said a few times before, the other party can move it up to getting shot any time it feels ready
bounce: drones with mesh potatoes and solar panels for autonomy. some proximity sensors and such. one roof gets too hot for comfort, move to the next.
bounce: what's the state of thin foil solar panels anyway?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or to put it in plainer terms : it is very true one wants to invent parachute before, rather than after being thrown from the plane.
mircea_popescu: i am quite curious to hear what their parachute design will look like.
mircea_popescu: stoolies being what they are, i'll prolly hear about it before they actually accept it.
ozbot: Georg Ritter von Flondor, and what his unhappy life can teach us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Pope
MarieLynn: <+mircea_popescu> what is the world's most important project ? (re: 18:06)
kakobrekla: i dunno, he speaks just not much here.
ozbot: 8.001 billion | Next Diff in 1539 blocks | Estimated Change: 10.1417% in 9d 14h 27m 34s
mircea_popescu: back when benkay was liek... correcting my math. how's this benkay baby! six months fixed my broked math.
mircea_popescu: there's more to it asciilifeform. suppose you visit this university, which wants you to take it seriously. in it, the head of nuclear physics is hard at work making an inventory of... his bunions.
mircea_popescu: what's that indicate to you ? i mean sure, great men can be eccentric.
mircea_popescu: maybe the bunion accountant has no business in physics, nuclear or otherwise, and the thing ain't an university in any sense.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn so, that. the one thing that does more than everything else all humans ever did in the entire history of life on earth.
MarieLynn: My friend is looking for a Rails dev @ 120-180K for his kinky site... I wish I was a Rails dev all of a sudden :)
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: for all your poetry and wit couldn't buy you half a hash.
pankkake: it's easy to be a Ruby dev. you just need a macbook and a fedora
MarieLynn: <+mircea_popescu> I will quote you on this when I talk about bitcoin
MarieLynn: Nice opportunity to arbitrage your skills when you live in a super cheap place!
pankkake: why? because of starbucks coffees?
MarieLynn: You keep living in a cheap place a reap the benefits of working in a place where they pay more for talent.
pankkake: maybe I should have left for an oil rig
MarieLynn: My other friend in Saskatchewan says construction workers are impossible to find because the mines pay too high :)
fluffypony: "Tradefortress has no room to bash anyone else besides Karpeles, Pirate, or maybe Mr. NEOBEE, Danny Brewster. Everyone else, small-time scammers included, would be better company at this point."
MarieLynn: My boyfriend beats people up for a living but there are few people in Montreal who are tough enough for his classes.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn arbitrage is the buying and selling of the same one asset (either natural or synthetic) in different markets that are divergent. so in order to arbitrage skills, you'd have to first buy them. skills aren't commodities however, and so this "arbitrage your skills" is just hipster talk.
MarieLynn: I shall never use it again in your presence then
mircea_popescu: tbh i was expecting something more along the lines of "wtf is a synthetic"
bounce: the offshoring brokers are in a sense arbitraging skills
benkay: who's this MarieLynn ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, i know the daughter of the guy that designed fucking buildings there. it's insanely expensive, you have to anchor i nthe permafrost.
mircea_popescu: benkay see teh log, she actually properly introduced herself.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform listen, for your average "rich american" 10 cubic meters of cement are expensive.
mircea_popescu: don't go telling me about how a 200 meter long pike is nothing.
mircea_popescu: because your cooling is endangering the spotted ice shrimp
benkay: lol MarieLynn your website has an obama quote? is that...are you...what even ams, yo
mircea_popescu: you're going to erect an atmosphere-cooled, unauthorised nuclear reactor in alaska ?
mircea_popescu: benkay she's a canadian, she's entitled to vote for obama.
mircea_popescu: not even actual experts can run the shit russians make.
MarieLynn: Benkay I put it there for fun, I just met him casually about 22 years ago with his mom :)
MarieLynn: I still haven't asked the museum archivist to tak out the note he wrote in the guestbook. Barrie!
benkay: "java on rails for nuclear physicists" << lulzlozlozwlw
mircea_popescu: the red us press was making her sound like a monster recently.
MarieLynn: Obama is a surprising person. Freakishly thin. Very 'rememberable'
benkay: MarieLynn: what brought you in here?
mircea_popescu: "Berkshire quarterly profit hurt by weather, insurance"
MarieLynn: I was walking on this steet called Twitter and BitcoinPete picked me up!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00096627 = 16.3783 BTC [-] {2}
MarieLynn: Usually when I participate in these things I wind up wioth an annoying stalker so I haven't been in IRC for over a decade.
fluffypony: uh I know MarieLynn, gribble stalks me all the time
FabianB: MarieLynn: your red wordpress emergency button is leading to "No Results Found"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31472 @ 0.00096538 = 30.3824 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Amazing how that actually fits history
MarieLynn: Damn PasswordBox always changing my fields! Thanks for the heads up.
artifexd: <mircea_popescu> it's like java on rails for nuclear physicists. << lol & bashed
Namworld: Trendon was such a retard... "Herp derp, I'm going to run a ponzi scheme and just use spend everything directly on all my personal accounts."
Namworld: and sold 85000 BTC for like 2 bucks each after trading losses...
Namworld: Looks like most was returned to "investors"
Namworld: Wow, so much work and trouble for just 165k USD
Namworld: I never saw those numbers... this is absurd.
fluffypony: but he did have the good fortune of many back rubs
csshih: holy shit 32 led bulbs with a massive 20,000 mcd?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00096474 = 13.7958 BTC [-] {2}
bounce: you can get whatwasit 100 hours out of a single aa... but it won't be much light.
csshih: yeah it's a boatload of advertising bullshit
csshih: OURS HAS MORE LEDS IT"S BETTER
fluffypony: bounce: absolutely - on my ZebraLight SC51s I can do 4 days at ~3 lumens
csshih: fluffypony, check out the zebraligh sc52
fluffypony: csshih: I know - it's time for an upgrade
csshih: it can do 3 months.. grated at 0.01 lumens LOL
fluffypony: csshih: I'm sure I mentioned to you the other day 1 of my SC51s has grown legs, gah
bounce: or the lri proton pro, or a host of other high-end flashlights
csshih: yeah the lri is nice, but it's dated
bounce: all I have is a photon II, came as a giveaway. guy had a sack full of'em, when in yurp they cost 20 euro a piece.
csshih: oh yeah that's my shop, thanks fluffypony
fluffypony: bounce: you should pester csshih for a coupon code :-P
bounce: still a continent away
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 500 @ 0.00021725 = 0.1086 BTC [+]
bounce: dramatic. what's dropping?
fluffypony: just a pity that you have to strip it and waterproof it yourself
fluffypony: bounce: at the top left you can see it says "Misutyusri QU530YT -RR"
bounce: I'd not've made that out hadn't you told
thestringpuller: MarieLynn: New Year.s Resolution = Use AirBnB. a lot! << @_@ coincidentally I just had the worst rental experience of my life with them
bounce: sudoitis on openbsd. phail.
thestringpuller: if the owners where in WoT i would be neg rating them right now
fluffypony: openbsd doesn't come with wget preloaded
bounce: at least freebsd has "fetch" in base, dunno what openbsd does there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07444265 = 0.1489 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: dignork: well, I made the offer to some kid, but post or pm address
BingoBoingo: ;;rate dignork 1 found an opportunity to make a useful thing
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user dignork has been recorded.
bounce: doesn't openbsd have a port for bitcoind, by the by?
mircea_popescu: ok sorry for the abstruse earlier image. it's the yield of us treasury bonds, 30 years, traded in japan
bounce: right. why'd that drop all of a sudden? start of the avalanche?
BingoBoingo: bounce some pieces of software you want to build from source.
MarieLynn: <+thestringpuller> That sucks. My last AirBnB in Toronto had a kleptomaniac cat... Other than that, good experiences so far.
mircea_popescu: MarieLynn thestringpuller i think there may be a strong difference based on location. airbnb may work a lot better outside of the us than inside.
bounce: what's with the wholesale quoting? o_O?
bounce: BingoBoingo: even then ports is the right place to store the compilation instructions
mircea_popescu: if he starts doing jay leno and roger/cathylee i'll weep
bounce: that is more or less why the thing exists
MarieLynn: I look at AirBnB in Moscow and St-Petersburg and the places in St-P. are palacial and the stuff in Moscow is dinky... Wonder what it will be like.
BingoBoingo: bounce: Sure, but sometimes you gotta be able to reproduce something in a different way. It may not be the most right way.
bounce: well, if there isn't a port then this is as good a point as any to cook one up
bounce: heh, tritium glow fobs. apparently they're made somewhere near here but you can't buy'em. can buy'em in the uk but only if you live there due to transport regulations and shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00096812 = 0.5809 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Noah Rothman Hungary, first member of the Warsaw Pact to slough off the bonds of communism, most resistant to Russ sanctions pic.twitter.com/L9B0sdPhzx
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @NoahCRothman O look, Romania not included. Because everyone else EXCEPT Romania had troops in Odessa, amirite ? #irrelevantidiocy
mircea_popescu: Noah Rothman @Mircea_Popescu not sure what you're getting at. Finland not included either. Are you suggesting Romanian operatives active in Ukr?
mircea_popescu: so... he doesn't understand what i'm getting at. because FINLAND was also omitted.
bounce: commie bonds? what's the yield on that?
mircea_popescu: o, what relevancy could omitting all the people against have on an article discussing "the only people against" ?
bounce: could perchance do an ideology market thingy
bounce: (biggest yield: irony)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete i'm told by my obviously bored intel that in point of fact 1,045 yo made some chick "the oldest living protoss"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47524 @ 0.00096422 = 45.8236 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17810 @ 0.00096359 = 17.1615 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07439009 = 0.5951 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, I think they are actually coming out here this year, some time. I dunno when though.
thestringpuller: I'll send you some crypto mail soon and we'll have a BTC game day.