kakobrekla: Altcoin slogan should be "the 15th standard"
benkay: thought you saved that for the girls
benkay: the research into pre-april 2012 securities is killllllling me
kakobrekla: blah now i got to bring my asics back online or what
ThickAsThieves: To show my dedication to the cause, I promise to NEVER mine Altcoin
mircea_popescu: you know i like bluematt more and more as time goes by
jurov: i mined ltc before it was cool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC
mircea_popescu: i actually vaguely recall zinging jurov for bothering with the silly alts a coupla years ago
jurov: yes, i was kinda psyched about the reaper (first gpu miner for scrypt)
mircea_popescu: beliebercoin unusablecoin starvingartistcoin biebercoin wethepeoplecoin jasoncoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.1505 = 0.301 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: and im fucking exhausted. not even 5% of the list covered
mike_c: difficult to monitor, but i would like a bitbet on bitcoincharts uptime
mike_c: then i could go long, and at least make money when they are down
jurov: ok, i got some bitchings from coinbr about the opex from coinbr
jurov: someone had 10 O.USD.C155T there? such bull
jurov: o that was myself :(
ozbot: [NEW] The REAL Altcoin - Act fast
benkay: did anyone save any of the glbse asset descriptions? i know they changed regularly...
pankkake: lol altcoin comes with no source code?
pankkake: I don't know how coingen works, so I'm not sure how it is supposed to get seed nodes either
ozbot: [NEW] The REAL Altcoin - Act fast
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02899911 = 0.174 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: at least I finally figured out how to solo mine
pankkake: can be useful on testnet I guess
pankkake: at least someone else is mining!
pankkake: perhaps a combination of A and $
kakobrekla: i just hooked up my gpu, too lazy to bring out asic out of the closet
pankkake: now mining on 1PonZioHc2gKHhSx3mbXD2tfahJh2vefSi
kakobrekla: btw there seems to be some malware attached or something
ozbot: MPOE, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: i dunno someone posted a link to a scan
pankkake: antiviruses get mad at any bitcoin thing
pankkake: because it's in so many botnets
pankkake: anyway, source code is an option on coingen, maybe you can ask for it later
azi`: 1k profits for mpex?
pankkake: not that it's hard to create it yourself from another source anyway ;)
mpexbot: jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is (1 more message)
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is (1 more message)
pankkake: "Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned." wow!
kakobrekla: but yeah, if its bad, stick it to kakos ass
pankkake: I wanted to give The Altcoin to the community!
pankkake: my first idea of bernankoin giveaway was to award them by number of user posts
pankkake: but there were too many beks and not enough big posters
ozbot: [ANN] Bernankoin the Coin Not Evil according to Paul Krugman DL WINQT v1.3 NOW
jurov: assbot knows vwap?
mircea_popescu: " Statistically speaking, MPOE-PR and by extension MP, is far more trustworthy than myself"
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: X.EUR 1 day: average: 0.00166253 high: 0.00166253 low: 0.00166253 volume: 200 btc: 0.332506 7 day: average: 0.00167696 high: 0.00170089 low: 0.00166114 volume: 3800 btc: 6.372431 30 day: average: 0.00180241 high: 0.002 low: 0.0016245 volume: 19539 btc: 35.21732337
pankkake: still, its an use of ;;gettrust over ;;getrating, not insane
jurov: it appears that mpex used 848,37 $ as vwap
mircea_popescu: jurov it just has an issue talking to bitcoincharts for some reason
pankkake: 0, there's still no exchange, no real otc trading as far as I know
pankkake: so at least something is working properly in this world
jurov: i want bernankoin <-> doge liquidity!!!
pankkake: I don't mine it, as it means mining less primecoin (which pays for my server bills!)
mircea_popescu: ok, kako, you sell to me 30k alts for 30 btc. pankake you sell to tako 300k beks for 30 btc. then i sell you 30k alts for 30 btc.
pankkake: "moneysupply" : 7939613962.72999954
pankkake: you're going to get a lot of PMs :|
ozbot: Bernankoin – The Coin to Save Our Economy – QUANTITATIVE EASING | Cynic.me
pankkake: and one of the few to notice the funny commits
ozbot: Bernankoin Printer
ozbot: Why You Need to Take Dogecoin Seriously… | Cynic.me
mircea_popescu: "The market demand for Dogecoin is there. People love it. It’s fun. It’s exciting. It’s different. It’s loyal. It’s furry. It’s happy. It’s glad to see you. It’s right there licking your face telling you that it loves you."
mircea_popescu: "You don’t need to love Dogecoin. But you do need to see what is happening with it right now. We have a social phenomenon going on, and even if it fails, we will learn a lesson or two from it"
ThickAsThieves: i dont have answers for these people, how do you mine it? who knows?!
pankkake: probably the first altcoin to have a genuine community
pankkake: OK I'm going to do a howto mine I guess
benkay: odd message from 'cynic.me'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02899999 = 0.174 BTC [+]
ozbot: (ANN) I will form a mining company to be traded on (GLBSE) if there is interest
mircea_popescu: pankkake i doubt this, but perhaps it's on the grounds of being uninformed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02899999 = 0.174 BTC [+]
pankkake: I think it brought people that did not use Bitcoin before
pankkake: whereas altcoins are bitcoiners looking for profit
pankkake: in that sense, it is "genuine"
pankkake: I'm not saying it's The Future obviously
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 18 @ 0.02899999 = 0.522 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: no but what i mean, a community is different from a crowd.
ozbot: Dogecoin Jamaican Bobsled Team Olympics - Business Insider
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02969994 = 0.1782 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake you realise there's a few people pushing it, and manipulating social media to give the impression of traction
pankkake: I don't know. if it had success without organized people behind it, it's a miracle
mircea_popescu: it's quite visibly (and quite respectably) being organisedly pushed.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea specifically who's doing it, but i can tell teh pro hand.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10562 @ 0.00091464 = 9.6604 BTC [+]
pankkake: I wonder if those guys were prepared before launch, or they just saw a thing and decided to do it
mircea_popescu: but you can trivially notice there's two groups if you take all the sm profiles and do scoring on them. you don't end up with either a powerlaw or any sort of gauss curve
mircea_popescu: you end up with two. there's distinguishably group A and group B, and group A is further traceable to convergence
kakobrekla: well ThickAsThieves you gonna put a site up displaying thhe logo in all its glory or what
pankkake: things like reddit have been gamed for a long time
pankkake: it's been widely documented, outed, etc.
KRS1: So dogge coin is worth throwing a few bucks at actually?
mircea_popescu: im not saying there's anything wrong with it, for that matter. the people doing it are providing data to all observers, not just to themselves.
mircea_popescu: i'd venture a guess that they're about 60-70% or so in the red so far, however.
mircea_popescu: (in the sense that total resources spent, including time / total market value - as an integral from current price to zero = ~.6x)
pankkake: well it's still working it seems, I got a 50 ATC donation!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.195 BTC [+]
ozbot: Potential Class Action suit against Coinbase being reviewed by attorney group against : Bitcoin
pankkake: I'd give reddit gold to the first comment
benkay: good old asstomouthparty
mircea_popescu: "Big Vern told me he is adding this to Cryptsy tomorrow."
KRS1: Hotuglywife goes ass to mouth.
mircea_popescu: watch this shit blowing up and each and every one of you vilified for being fucking illuminati.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC
pankkake: I suppose diff will be changed after 2016 blocks
pankkake: easy mining was the success of bernankoin
pankkake: especially since I enabled cpu mining by default on new versions
pankkake: (it's primecoin so cpu is good)
benkay: well gosh if -assets doesn't have its own derpcoin now
benkay: as if it didn't before...
benkay: the menagerie is necessary.
benkay: also whoever dm'd me; dm's aren't working for me today
mircea_popescu: as conversations online progress, the odds of mp comissioning hitler paintings and the odds of each participant to the convo running their own altchain both increase towards 1
benkay: you guys you guys you guys
ozbot: [FREE BITCOINS] MPOE Stress testing.
benkay: mircea_popescu: do you ever worry about taking years off that poor girl's life?
benkay: not at the rate she's pulling AMIRITE BOYYYYYS
benkay: all the cortisol coursing through her system all the time's gotta be bad for wear and tear on the nervous system
ozbot: Why do gentlemen prefer blondes ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00594999 = 0.1844 BTC [+]
benkay: as a result, redheads are undervalued in the sexual marketplace
benkay: they're generally much more entertaining, due to having to compete with all the blondes all the time
benkay: at least in my limited experience
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2617 @ 0.00009304 = 0.2435 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.195 BTC [+]
benkay: it's like how overly pretty girls seem to be missing something between the ears and in the sheets
benkay: having never developed any skills in the arena due to self-overvaluation...
benkay: oh god i have to trawl economy>marketplace>services too
pankkake: being a pretty girl isn't such a gift after all
pankkake: best would be to be an ugly child and then beautiful adult
benkay: haven't met many particularly good looking women over the age of 30
benkay: of course, they have other assets at that age
benkay: i actually take it back totally
benkay: 'cause what is physical beauty without as prince calls it "pussy control"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4234 @ 0.00009117 = 0.386 BTC [-] {6}
mod6: what a month for s.mpoe!
pankkake: > To make use of tweens, you must construct a “tween factory”
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16254 @ 0.00091181 = 14.8206 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: At least that piece of shit has the excuse that itt's made by nobody starring Fuckfleck and wht's his name. << lol Fuckfleck
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02868325 = 0.1721 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 388 @ 0.00043 = 0.1668 BTC [-]
benkay: what ultimately happened to F.PURE.SYNTH?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 55 @ 0.00448 = 0.2464 BTC [-]
benkay: makes it sound so innocuous
ozbot: MPOE, rezultate August 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: "III. F.PURE.SYNTH is withdrawn due to lack of interest shown by investors. All outstanding shares were rebought, the current float being 0."
mircea_popescu: pankkake you know... things today are the way they are and not worse in part because pirate got humiliated on mpex, etc.
benkay: lol: with the caveat that the correct valuation thereof has proven in practice to be more difficult than it seemed in theory.
mircea_popescu: there's a certain amt of interaction one's stuck with.
benkay: how did pirate get humiliated on mpex?
mircea_popescu: when they were running out of liquidity a bunch of assholes (goat chief among them, the "bankers" like kludge, jarnett etc,
mircea_popescu: started a campaign to list it and sucker the average holder.
benkay: rosenfeld's fake short didn't pay out?
benkay: i can't open any more bitcointalk.org tabs
benkay: my combudder will impludder under the derp
mircea_popescu: anyway, it never got any volume, which was the point of the exercise
mircea_popescu: "let me build a strawman show you nobody REALLY wants to short pirate"
mircea_popescu: that argument led directly into the 10k bet, and so on.
benkay: and so dense in cryptlandia
benkay: i'm vaguely aware of this 10k bet but lack the full story. highlights?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
ozbot: Rating Details for User 'Vandroiy'
nubbins`: so i got a pm on the forums from goat
nubbins`: "At my new forum cryptocrypt.org free-speech will be restricted a bit to enforce rules on being polite and respecting other members. We will have a very low tolerance for insulting others and more or less being a nuisance. Scamming and the like will not be tolerated at all. I hope this will be more civil place to talk about crypto and economics. "
benkay: can't in2 network effects
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00570003 = 0.3192 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: man i gotta write something up about goat's role in the madhouse
pankkake: Revenue from new accounts : 1`830 BTC << wut?!
nubbins`: sometimes i don't want to be polite ;(
pankkake: nubbins`: but you're canadian. that's your nature
mircea_popescu: basically the guy's decided to somehow still matter in btc.
mircea_popescu: but his general sniffing is correct, bitcointalk is spiraling into the toilet.
pankkake: still that's a lot of users, I hardly believe it
nubbins`: that's a lot of people with 30btc
benkay: mircea_popescu's self-trading nubbins` donchaknow
pankkake: maybe they're refering themselves endlessly?
benkay: some days i wonder if mircea_popescu didn't look at Pirate and say to himself "oh so you want to see an elegant scam, do yer?"
ozbot: AMC Theaters Allegedly Calls FBI to Interrogate a Google Glass Wearer - Slashdot
nubbins`: recording in a theatre is a crime here in canada as of a few years ago as well
nubbins`: they will srsly call the police and charge you :0
mircea_popescu: benkay we're even then, that wondering is even older than pirate :D
nubbins`: think about the madness of that for a moment
nubbins`: "if you point a machine at our large smooth wall, the police will put you in jail"
benkay: mircea_popescu how did you construct the pirate short that worked?
mircea_popescu: it basically mirrored exactly all the specific performance points teh "bankers" made on their announcement.
mircea_popescu: like, so and so shares issued by so and so date doing etc.
nubbins`: [23:07:39] <gribble> Sent 6 hours and 28 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> ^
benkay: well grep the logs, breh
nubbins`: portraits of bitcoin's infamous, accompanied by quotes
nubbins`: a lovely inking of yifu with "this isn't good for my chi", etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04999994 = 1 BTC [+]
ozbot: The Bet: BMR and Sheep to die in a year : SilkRoad
nubbins`: Arbitration & escrow are being provided by Nanotube
ozbot: The Bet: BMR and Sheep to die in a year : SilkRoad
benkay: better give up then ;)
mircea_popescu: fundamentally speaking, time spent trying to improve the lives of idiots is a waste.
mircea_popescu: especially if their lives end up improved as a result.
mircea_popescu: "I begin implementing code changes to freeze funds and dump them to myself. I was unable to cope with the stress and constant demand, so I panicked. I am sorry for my actions, but with the funds I gathered from the site, I will be able to keep myself from being homeless for the next several months. I will always remember those that made this possible."
mircea_popescu: lol apparently nefario v2.0 was running a silkroad clone
ozbot: Black market owner shuts down, takes BTC with him
pankkake: bitbet would be a great tool as insurance against black market closure
pankkake: provided bitbet wants too though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10200001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.59858299 = 4.1901 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00090993 = 8.8263 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: still 1+ block per sec, I suspect a lot are lost to stale and orphans
pankkake: coingen really makes terrible coins :))
pankkake: why what? the starting difficulty is too low for todays's hardware
pankkake: bad settings of starting difficulty and its adjustments; no seed nodes; same genesis block for all coins and I think same RPC port
pankkake: going to sleep, hopefully will be rich tomorrow
pankkake: "connections" : 26 that part is underwhelming
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 10000 @ 0.005 = 50 BTC
ozbot: [NEW] The REAL Altcoin
ThickAsThieves: All altcoins are altcoins, but only one altcoin is Altcoin.
Duffer1: i'm tellin yall, Hodor Coin is the next Bitcoin
kakobrekla: what about Buttcoins, pegged to 1 buttcoin value
pankkake: unless we have colored buttcoins?
mircea_popescu: you put lipstick on a number of cocks, all different colors
kakobrekla: rude was your daddy when he put it in your momma
mike_c: talk about growth hacking. 20 btc into 1800.
mike_c: that's some good marketing stats.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i don't believe they are in fact marketing stats.
mircea_popescu: what i mean is : wall street "experts" love to take a fee if the fund does well.
mircea_popescu: similarly here : if you throw money around at some point good things may happen. just because marketeers imagine they have a monopoly on money beng thrown around
mircea_popescu: doesn't give them license to imagine good things happening are a marketing event
mike_c: so you're saying you weren't sure it would work, so you shouldn't get full credit.
mircea_popescu: just as well i could believe it's a sign from god and go into the church.
mike_c: but still, a nice move!
mircea_popescu: believe it or not, i'm saying the entire marketing consideration didn't even enter into it.
mike_c: you don't know how to take credit for good luck do you? what kind of ceo are you?
pankkake: management interface looks the same
pankkake: it's like 2000s ugly admin surrounded by trendy 2010s css
mircea_popescu: i dunno how the fuck it would, i had to use mine with nocss.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00091307 = 10.6829 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: we know you don't like hosting so we took your hosting out of the hosting dashboard.
ozbot: Cantina Market Mega Thread (Up vote for visibility, this is a self post I receive no karma) : DarkNe
mircea_popescu: it's incredible how stupid these people are individually. the aggregate boggles.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04999994 = 0.15 BTC [+]
Duffer1: wonder whatever happened to that kid that came in here trying to start his own silk road at his college
mircea_popescu: hopefully he got lazy and is now trying to shag this blonde teen.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this debacle really reminds me of the bitdaytrade thing
ozbot: Cantina Marketplace Was NOT Hacked : DarkNetMarkets
mircea_popescu: "It would be neat if a (formerly) decent darknet market were to release their source code under an open source license. Some platform to build your darknet market on would be nice, rather than starting from scratch."
mircea_popescu: because code = business. at least if you're a redditard.
mircea_popescu: "INSERT INTO users(username,password,PIN,account_type,UID,RegDate,BTC,Purse,btc_timestamp, About_me) VALUES ('" . $_POST["username"] . ", " . $_POST["password"] (...)"
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is php syntax isn't it ? or does ruby use that $_post construct ?
ozbot: Cantina Marketplace PWND: Admin Password was: “Password1″ ? | Deep Dot Web
mircea_popescu: I am the owner of RoadSilk and I would like to ask if its possible to change the status of our website on the marketplace list.
mircea_popescu: We are legit and we do everything to make it the most secure & safe marketplace ever.
mircea_popescu: I know, we are not looking very legit but if we get some help with popular sites like yours, then everyone will notice how legit we are.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 40 @ 0.005 = 0.2 BTC
mircea_popescu: actually it's probably better to buy it than o mine it.
mircea_popescu: seeing how buying costs the same, but also pumps it through the trade.
ThickAsThieves: another pm "May I ask what are your plans with this coin, are you gonna take it seriously ?"
ThickAsThieves: What would my difference in behavior be if I were serious vs. not serious?
Duffer1: the coin wouldn't exist vs the coin does exist
mircea_popescu: in fact, from a game theory perspective, the total dollar value of your comittment sets his maximum comitment in turn
mircea_popescu: the discount rate of commitment is a market variable, roughly analoguous to the risk free rate in an economy
mircea_popescu: and jesus fuck i've spelled commitment each possible way
ThickAsThieves: So what if I post that I'll buy 10BTC worth when it lists on Cryptsy
mircea_popescu: im curious if you beat doge's estimated returns or not.
mircea_popescu: ie, whether you ever make 6 btc back, or if you make more.
ThickAsThieves: i'll need to pay someone to update the logo in the wallet once i get the source
ThickAsThieves: goes to show, spending 10 minutes on a logo is better than spending 4 minutes
kakobrekla: pankkake is your man, you can pay him in bernankecoin
mircea_popescu: just get a vm somewhere, dns webhosting sucks in principle.
ThickAsThieves: You think a Cryptsy.com Lists Altcoin bet would pass the Halls of Judgement?
Duffer1: bet x on yes, pay vern x -10, profit
mircea_popescu: "I have no idea man. The fucking admin has disappeared. All people thinking us fucking mods in on it and we had no idea. We have no access to anything at all. All we can do is ban users and delete forum posts. We also lost everything. Invested so fucking much. No job, no security, now in fucking huge debt all because of “honest” promise of pay. I stil have some kind of hope, but it’s running out fast. I really re
mircea_popescu: ally fucking hope this is just life problems for the admin team, but I have no idea. Thanks man for your support. This is a total fucking disaster though by the looks of it.
mircea_popescu: I’m so fucking sorry for everything I’ve said in the past. I got scammed just like every other fucking person. Scared for my fucking life now people trying to fucking dox us because they think we’re in on it. Fucked up man fucked up."
mircea_popescu: "Please only fill out the survey once, and be honest with your responses."
mircea_popescu: "Right now, I've got less than 1BTC and I'm dirt poor. Back when bitcoins/litecoins weren't worth anything (< 2 years ago), I had what would now be worth over a quarter million dollars worth in my wallet. I ended up wasting it on stupid gambling sites / day trading before it was worth much. Worst foresight ever."
mircea_popescu: for the 2nd rendition in 2018, "i had almost a whole btc, worth 1/4 mn" ?
ozbot: Preliminary 0.9.0rc1 release notes
mircea_popescu: "I myself had over 20 BTC I needed to withdrawal. I requested that I have my withdrawals open, he said he would, then never did. Last night all the mods began to realize it was true….he scammed us.,..even his own admin team. I mean obviously scamming all of you is terrible, but to scam his own team is beyond a normal scammer. It is someone who is the lowest of the low, the lowest of the scammers who are already so lo
mircea_popescu: "i couldn't believe you have a web page asking users for their private pgp key"
Namworld: A scammer will scam anyone... ANYONE. As long as he can get away with it. He might not scam partners who live nearby. But from another country, working on same project. Why not?
ozbot: Twitter / Bitcoin_Assets: The Altcoin to end all altcoins ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.0057 = 5.7 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: figure out based on mining cost what diff you want, put a bid wall around there on whatever altscam marketplace
kakobrekla: also techically you can say mtgox will suport altchain(s)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves at their level, not like they can make a decision. if you say "i'll put a bid wall for x btc" they can't say no.
ThickAsThieves: i'll wait for any more meaningful moves til i get the source
ozbot: X-BT - The new marketplace for trading Bitcoin with Litecoin and Namecoin
mircea_popescu: tell him you'll list it if he puts at least X btc bids.
Apocalyptic: <ThickAsThieves> can you even do it without the source? // if you have a linux 64-bit exec yeah
Duffer1: "We're totally not trying to reduce LTC diff, MINE ALTCOIN WITH CONFIDENCE"
Duffer1: tat how much does it cost to coingen a new alt?
Vexual: does this share keys with bitcoin? can we chared key trade?
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3dd75e1e1e35261f5cd9fbf33c902e58cae06d9217ebbfc20e59d872
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mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids you know you gotta read the log before linking stuff
Vexual: this coin better hit dollar parity, i got an orphaned ATC block at 4000M
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves that thing has been around since time immemorial
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herbijudlestoids: the simplest story the graph tells is that a gambler could bet on any 20 tick bar and more likely expect a positive return than negative one
herbijudlestoids: for example, if there is a 20 tick bar with a -2% return, you should bet against it
herbijudlestoids: because its highly unlikely that the next bar will be also a -2% return bar or even a -1% return bar, etc
herbijudlestoids: this is just preliminary play info until i can get more sample size
herbijudlestoids: so whatever tails you see are the best/worst of the distribution
herbijudlestoids: definitely starting to look more like the levy distributions that im used to in other stocks
mike_c: i hate technical analysis, so excuse my stupid question: wtf is a 20 tick bar?
herbijudlestoids: its a different way of plotting the data instead of price/time its price/arbitrary divisions of price
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mike_c: so if a stock trades down for 20 ticks, you're saying buy it or sell it?
mike_c: right, but if you were
mike_c: hm. just watch out for those head & shoulder patterns, i hear they're rough.
herbijudlestoids: it doesnt have to trade down all 20 ticks, right? just a - return
herbijudlestoids: this isnt really technical analysis so much as quantitative analysis
herbijudlestoids: TA guy will buy and sell based on ...for example h&s pattern...QA guy will analyse exactly what a h&s pattern is, expected returns, failure rates etc
kakobrekla: hooker looking like cop bringing pizza
mike_c: your QA site is talking about h&s
ozbot: Bulkowski's Busted Head-and-Shoulders Bottoms
herbijudlestoids: yes, but hes *tested* it over ~5000 stocks and multiple parameters etc
mike_c: If price fails to drop more than 10% below the bottom of the head-and-shoulders bottom, then it could be forming a double bus
herbijudlestoids: and what does it say about success rate of this pattern mike_c?
mike_c: ohh, so if you find patterns in a random walk, then they must be valid going forward
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids his question is simply this : both qa and ta rely on a fundamental predictive presumption.
mircea_popescu: predictive. ie, that somehow a numeric manipulation of the past yields the future.
herbijudlestoids: mostly through the use of adaptive algorithms, for me, personally
herbijudlestoids: i am not interested in impressing, im interested in consistent double digit returns with low vol
mike_c: apply your quant to JD and see what you can predict
herbijudlestoids: is it a listed stock somewhere? or do you mean apply it to bets on the site itself? i couldnt see it in my mpex data
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herbijudlestoids: the simplest betting strategy is to bet on the low volatility bets, i.e. those that have a low payoff but high probability of succeeding
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mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids jd is a dice site. people gamble on it. its house edge is 1%. the returns it pays investors vary wildly.
mircea_popescu: you can bet on any self-chosen odds, including 95% for a 4% gain or w/e.
mike_c: point being, you could backtest and find patterns that would look profitable but are in fact completely irrelevant.
mike_c: like people at a baccarat table marking player vs banker
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Vexual: the lucky chap claimed to have spotted it when he took jd for thousands
mircea_popescu: Vexual the first time it happened it spooked doog to all hell.
herbijudlestoids: if its a regular dice site i would say just bet using kelly criterion
Vexual: yeah i dont doubt that mp
mircea_popescu: if memory serves i was up 50 btc or so, whenever that was
Vexual: is doog on wot? who's he tight with?
mike_c: herbijudlestoids: i think the more analysis the better, so i hope you keep at it. i'm just not a believer.
herbijudlestoids: hope i can show you some cool stuff when hte sample size gets bigger
mike_c: sell predictions. tell half of them it's going up, the other half it's going down. next week, split your list again and repeat.
mike_c: works for sports touts
herbijudlestoids: i might buy a couple of bitcoins and bet on just dice...maybe...kind of got my heart set on buying as much MPOE as i can
mike_c: that would be better than betting on jd.
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jurov: Revenue from new accounts : 1`830 BTC *gasp*
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Duffer1: Jimmothy should be on payroll
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mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is how idiots like keiser work, too. all the obscure web "financial experts", or bet picking experts, or so on work on the same business model :
☟︎ mircea_popescu: 1. you put up a site with some content and drive a ton of traffic to it. google ads, whatever. this is your start-up cost.
mircea_popescu: 2. you gather leads for your "special picks" list, which you contact via email. this is your stable of suckers.
mircea_popescu: 3. you split them in equal halves and give one half one pick, the other your opposite.
mircea_popescu: now you have 50% of the list worth of people who think you must be on to something.
mircea_popescu: 4. you subdivide both divisions. now you have a list of people who know you fucked up twice, this you discard ; two lists of people who think you go tone out of two. these you merge ; a most valuable list of idiots who think you got 2 out of 2.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that latter list is your money maker. the merged list is where you mine for idiots.
mircea_popescu: this allows you to actually extract a profit out of the stupidity of people who are too stupid to realise just how stupid they are.
mircea_popescu: "ll the obscure web "financial experts", or bet picking experts" :)
ThickAsThieves: how often tv picks work out to be worse then flipping a coin
mircea_popescu: because the scammors can pay, and can scream, whereas the idiots can't pay, and can scream too, and they will scream against their interest.
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mircea_popescu: in fact, she's so novel that people that go by "what i've seen" generally imagine she's a poor pr.
ThickAsThieves: it's also funny that this is just economics, nothing sinister
ThickAsThieves: having mpoe-pr on tv just wouldnt be as profitable ad Mad Money
mircea_popescu: well, science employed to dominate idiocy is the idiot's definition of sinister.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i woke up after six hour's sleep with two article ideas in my head and ended up writing a third in chat while taking a break from writing my first ;/
mircea_popescu: to think people actually BUY drugs. whatcha got endocrine glands for, ya tits ?!
nubbins`: my endocrine glands don't produce thc
ThickAsThieves: (N) 1. An ungrateful person, behaving as if they were entitled to everything. 2. A white person behaving as if they were black.
ThickAsThieves: (V) 1. To treat someone of the same color with the disrespect of racial discrimination. 2. To disregard a respectable black person because of their skin color
ThickAsThieves: verb: give a negative rating to a posting or a definition in Urbandictionary (thumbs down)
mircea_popescu: dude so meta and self absorbed and awareness rasing this.
ThickAsThieves: it is pretty on point considering your efforts to clearly define niggers.txt
pankkake: "difficulty" : 1024.00000000 harsh
ThickAsThieves: anyone know a better way to reach bluematt than this coingen email?
nubbins`: hahah hey look, i'm practically in this article
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nubbins`: maybe a bit obsessed with scarlett johansson
nubbins`: but he makes some surprisingly lucid points
nubbins`: like how there are no "problems" in art
ThickAsThieves: his convinction and consistency made it easy to follow along on something so abstract
ThickAsThieves: i suspect the editing floor contains some less respectable moments though
nubbins`: the part where he goes on about whether a piece is "finished" or not is good, too
ThickAsThieves: seems the answer to all these queries is Embrace Chaos
nubbins`: meese said it, all politicians must resign
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nubbins`: carl jung would have loved to meet this guy
nubbins`: or maybe the other way around? heh
mircea_popescu: i rest the case on the representation of southpark. this guy is mj, and i'm ignorant.
mircea_popescu: i have, and it changes your perspective in a particular way.
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves, there are some other good vice art talks too
nubbins`: the one about bongout is what inspired me to start silkscreening on paper
nubbins`: lel, related videos reminded me of another series they do
nubbins`: where they feed some poor freelancer some acid and get him to cover an event
ThickAsThieves: i'll check it out, but if i get back into printing in any way I will be mad at you
mircea_popescu: wait, is the fbi investigating vice, the drug marketplace yet ?
nubbins`: there were points in that video where i legitimately felt bad for the guy
mircea_popescu: basically how did they call that thing where they paid homeless people to be abused ?
mircea_popescu: it's progressing, now you don't even spend money, just give them some crack
nubbins`: fun fact, you don't need to pay homeless people to take crack
mircea_popescu: fun fact : homeless people will refuse money, even in high amounts for easy jobs.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, homeless people will not refuse drugs, even cheap shitty drugs, and do anything for some.
mircea_popescu: somehow being paid is demeaning, being drugged is empowering (this year)
nubbins`: guy in video: "things that aren't necessarily interesting become extremely interesting"
nubbins`: man, i've already seen this video, and watching it again is making me anxious for him
Duffer1: alberto about to spend a reallly long time in jail
Apocalyptic: you know mpoe-pr warned it was a scam from the beginnin
nubbins`: 5 bucks says virtualspade takes the money and runs
virtuals: or dont you like to have anyting to do with labcoin, even helping to put alberto to jail
virtuals: I read that a long time ago, whet question
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mircea_popescu: so then there it is : i already donated to those idiots more than what their skin is on average worth.
mircea_popescu: those that didn't don't get a 2nd round today, it'd be unfair to their betters, that did take it.
mircea_popescu: but since it's a topic, i wonder if anyone were to make a list of all the supposedly big businesses in btc ordered by the total btc sum they donated to exposing scams,
Apocalyptic: i've read some interesting article about him a while ago
Apocalyptic: written by a supposed investor saying how confident he was, cause Patrick got too much to loose if he ran
mircea_popescu: at the time it was a big deal, people really bought it.
nubbins`: "what good is piles of btc if you don't have your internet friends"
mircea_popescu: more importantly, at the time it was really common, to the point of being a rule, that nobody made public default complaints
mircea_popescu: afaik mpoe-pr going all public with it was absolutely the first case a default was prosecuted in public in btc
Apocalyptic: because they were ashamed of being scammed ?
mircea_popescu: and because they're generally immoral fuckwits, who'd rather suck up to the scammer as if he were their daddy
mircea_popescu: i quoted some stuff from the scamdarknet earlier, pretty much illustrating this style.
nubbins`: "i'm in a really bad spot financially right now"
jborkl: Just the tip ok? Don't shove it all the way
mircea_popescu: jborkl i got liek 19 inches of pure love throbbin' here :D
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mircea_popescu: pankkake course it is. like infection you know ? there's always going to be bacteria on your skin
mircea_popescu: complete sterility is apparently a serious health risk.
pankkake: lack of bacteria in modern diets makes digesting harder
nubbins`: i read an article about gut flora of natural vs c-section births recently
mircea_popescu: pankkake actually it's possible that the recent rise in ass licking as a sexual practice is fundamentally driven by the need to compensate for a lack of bacterial load in the digestive tract.
ThickAsThieves: maybe thats all eating is, humans trying to find the perfect mix of microbes to balance the gut for immortality
jborkl: Well it didn't work out for the human centipede
nubbins`: consider that a human is just a bacteria colony surrounded by a fleshy support system
nubbins`: bacteria colony doesn't do so well, fleshy support system suffers
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that view is not unlike the view that human society is basically women trying to survive men fucking their shit up.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: well, kill all the women and see how far you get :P
decimation: So it seems answer to "why bitcoin?" is "gentlemen prefer blondes" or "choose the black pawn"
nubbins`: i wonder how much of humans' love for cheese, yogurt, cured meats, fermented dishes, etc etc is bacteria telling us what to eat
mircea_popescu: decimation well, if the q is "why bitcoin rather than the altcoin" then yes.
decimation: And if the q is "why bitcoin rather than the fiat" also yes?
ThickAsThieves: is there a religion for this, worshiping bacteria and our role as its protectorate?
mircea_popescu: that q is a lot more complex, but did you read discussion with herbi a few days back ?
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves, it's much more subliminal than religion
nubbins`: is there a religion for being selfish?
mircea_popescu: so since y'all are a lot more knowledgeable than me : is there a manga/hentai/whatever you call the weird cartoons which is predicated on females being decerebrated at birth, kept on live support systems, used as reproductive furniture ?
Duffer1: the only thing i can think of that comes close isn't a manga
Duffer1: Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang - kate wilhelm i believe
mircea_popescu: this seems kind-of obvious, i thought teh people making them were creative and like... taboo-less
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: sorry, court-controlled regex disconnect
nubbins`: i'm sure there's a "manga" of everything
nubbins`: in the sense that some weirdo drew up a few doodles of exactly this
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pankkake: I have seen those, but they're not japanese
nubbins`: did i tell you about the drawing i found when cleaning out the rental after the last tenants?
ThickAsThieves: that is exactly the only reason i enjoy some anime and asian horror, no taboo
nubbins`: some weird masked jester lifting up a My Little Pony's tail to examine the goods?
nubbins`: somewhere, someone is wondering "i wonder if that's been done..."
mircea_popescu: aeon flux had an incredibly disappointing charlize theron in it
Duffer1: the mtv animated series was amazing
mircea_popescu: good god, anyone sane filming that'd have had her half hour nude and the rest in latex.
decimation: Yes. I read it earlier and now I re-read it. So the transcendental nature of Bitcoin describes its ontology. Bitcoin's effect on the world of humans is more like that of a soveirgn state.
pankkake: I don't know, I don't think I kept those. I've seen a few novels too. crazy stuff
mircea_popescu: decimation even without going into all of that : bitcoin has massive advantages over fiats. chief among which its fungibility.
decimation: Except Bitcoinstein has a much brighter looking future than Goldenstein
mircea_popescu: decimation now you're making me read more of that stuff.
mircea_popescu: it always pisses me off, because the kid is clearly bright and yet clearly wilfully stupid. anyway.
decimation: Sorry. He has his good moments, but I agree he is a spaz
ThickAsThieves: getting my hands on the source will be Altcoin's "2 weeks"
decimation: Bitcoin is immune from legal tender law. Unlike fiat, no bank will be able to force depositors to accept bank credit (in bitcoin) as fungible with actual Bitcoin
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mircea_popescu: well this article does a lot to explain his psychological drive in being so bitcoin-butthurt
mircea_popescu: anyway, the arguments he makes are mostly sound and generally banal, it just so happens they didnt work out for gold.
mircea_popescu: the reason they didn't is that gold has a negative mining return.
mircea_popescu: what i mean by this is : romania sits on a mountain of gold. it was the main source of minable gold for the roman empire, when they finally conquered dacia the local king's treasury financed 100 days of straight games with plenty left over.
mircea_popescu: the austrians mined it, transylvania still sits on a pile of untold millions of ounces.
mircea_popescu: about ten years ago a mining group formed to cut out one certain mountain, convert it to gold (and silver, palladium, tungsten, etc etc) and pay the government 20%
mircea_popescu: they;ve been trying to push this deal for the entire decade, hiring pr, doing tv shows, paying the idiots living there fiddy bux a head to go "omfg we're dying of hunger", the works.
mircea_popescu: my objection, and i'm confident the thing that sunk the project (not for it being mine, but for it being sound) is simply this :
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mircea_popescu: why bother with all the digging, all the cyanide ponds, all that, just to get gold out fo the ground, move it 500 miles south west and then... dig a hole, put it there and guard it ?
mircea_popescu: just put up a sign, National Bank of Romania Gold Vault, Rosia Montana Division on that mountain and be don with it.
mircea_popescu: it's,,, just as gold, and just as burried, where it stands.
mircea_popescu: in short : a land deed on a gold field is as good as gold itself. you have a negative incentive to actually mine it.
decimation: Indeed. Gold in the ground as ore is just as good as gold in the ground as a bar.
mircea_popescu: whereas you have a positive incentive to mine bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: so the driving force isn't bitcoin's immunity to the legal tender law,
ThickAsThieves: I actually know a guy that manages contract negotiations between governments and mines
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is immune to human agency, which means you can't pass a law to hinder it's fungibility.
mircea_popescu: more importantly tho... there's no rational way to represent property in yet-unmined blocks. this is so obvious it escapes notice
ThickAsThieves: but when 20-yr contracts run out, his job gets trickier
decimation: Right, unlike anything physical, unmined bitcoin is utterly useless
chetty: You can pass such a law, they pass unenforceable law all the time
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mircea_popescu: or in other words, the reasons all the "experts" in old-fiat crap give for bitcoin's failure
mircea_popescu: this strengthening the chief pillar of all hermeneutics.
decimation: Right, and all the game-theory arguments about savings is really just restating Gresham's law
mircea_popescu: he does get a lot of mileage in wordcount out of restating the banal, but he does so in a pleasant form and this is a good thing,
mircea_popescu: you never know which exact word combo is some guy's aha moment.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's still just as much dicking about with shit we know.
decimation: I find the goldbug's (enemies of the fiatists) objections to bitcoin to be amusing, because they complain about the lack of physicality.
decimation: Whereas that's bitcoin's greatest strength, as you point out.
mircea_popescu: well in their defense, they just rooted for the correct principle their whole life, fighting valliantly for their sanity as an oppressed minority.
mircea_popescu: to have, within their lifetime, their cookie stolen by a newcomer...
mircea_popescu: imagine if after having pampered jesus for 30 years, the entire thing was suddenly taken over by baby allah.
mircea_popescu: so i can understand why a 50 something guy with a bunch of gold bars and no functioning linux distro is fucking pissed at bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: and tbh i kinda feel for him. sadly tho, they also can't be helped, because... as tat points out, "The problem here is that you have no mechanism with which to do so, and that because language is not employed for the purpose you imagine it employed."
ThickAsThieves: and why in 15 years bitcoiners will be crying over some newer thing
Duffer1: i'd be surprised if it took 15 years
decimation: At least James Turk is smart enough to recognize a good thing when he sees it. Hopefully he will get his bitcoin exchange running at some point.
ThickAsThieves: language exists so we dont have to hit each other and grunt to communicate, just more economy at work
ThickAsThieves: probly mostly cuz female facial expressions were never well-interpreted too
mircea_popescu: possibly, tho i find female facials easier to read than males.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the reason is people tend to spend more time looking at other bits, and so lack practice.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's not clear atm that an improvement on bitcoin is in principle possible.
ThickAsThieves: i always considered myself instinctively above average with body language
mircea_popescu: this is true of gold, too, at least up to about 2005 or so. however... it did take > 2k years with gold.
mircea_popescu: those with good reason for good reason, those without good reason for d-k reasons.
decimation: www.netagio.com <-- has anyone used this exchange?
ThickAsThieves: just realized that this and our prior bacterial topic bring new subtlety to "trust your gut"
mircea_popescu: did i see 1024 altscamcoin difficulty earlier ? that means you missed no quadrupling yet ?!
Duffer1: any thoughts on the recent high profile bankster suicides?
mircea_popescu: pankkake make a bitbet bet as to how many 4s you get ?
pankkake: I'm not mining anything now :(
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 people generally do not wish to live in any possible world.
mircea_popescu: they have a set of worlds they'll live in, and a set of worlds they won't.
pankkake: I guess the bet could be "altcoin difficulty to be exactly X", but I don't know what could be a good number
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, that implies something must have recently changed that is strong enough to shift the reality to the other category of worlds
pankkake: I think there are too many blocks per second and thus even my good finds get rejected
mircea_popescu: pankkake it could be "altcoin difficulty will be a power of 4 by bitcoin block X"
ThickAsThieves: How about this bet : Altcoin is the best altcoin. This bet resolves as Yes if the answer is No.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic it's not necessarily true. if you won't live in a world without cunt, and right this second i turn all women's crotch into angels' how long would it be before you realise i did it ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves somehow i suspect it's not getting accepted :p
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves actually, strangest thing : they do! if it has my seal of approval on it, they'll do it even if it makes no sense.
decimation: Ja the dictatorship of art is the ideal
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic if you've ever seen V for vendetta, there's that scene with "i've already killed you"
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Apocalyptic: i don't specifically recall these quotes though
mircea_popescu: "Unbelievable as it may sound, the US economy today is a shadow of what it was in the '70s."
kakobrekla: gotta be persistent, you know, and things turn around.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic perhaps the reason it is an easy call today is that today happens in an universe which was shaped by the uneasy calling yesterday.
mircea_popescu: and perhaps had that not been called then, it'd be just as difficult to call today as it was then, and then you'd know about it,
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> Apocalyptic perhaps the reason it is an easy call today is that today happens in an universe which was shaped by the uneasy calling yesterday. // you may well be right
mircea_popescu: this is a well documented phenomenon in movies/entertainment, where a show that pioneers a lot of new devices that are then amply copied, when seen by later generations seems "stale" and "uninteresting"
nubbins`: pascale's assessment of funds on havelock: "none of these seem to be worth buying"
mircea_popescu: sorta the same thing at work, in the world which it made, which is entirely populated by its clones and copies, it seems... oddly banal.
mircea_popescu: and nobody can understand why anyone thought seinfeld was a big deal in 1995
pankkake: it even was in my browser history
decimation: The more white altcoins there are, the more obvious the choice of the black pawn becomes
mircea_popescu: i keep telling these doods altcoins are useful, and they only don't throw things at me because i'm fucking scary.
decimation: anyway, if Bitcoinstein rises to rule the world one day, it is likely that the history recorded here will be used as the basis for law
mircea_popescu: there's been some formalisation of this principle going on so far, too.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00283 = 0.566 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.04999998 = 0.3 BTC [+]
nubbins`: any news re: new eulora release?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.027 = 0.135 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00550084 = 0.2915 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00546 = 0.1638 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i tell you, if #bitcoin-assets trollcoin made on a lark ends up disloging doge, you will have SO MUCH angry wanna-be financial darklord butthurt on your hands
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.1675 BTC [+]
KRS1: f'n dogge coin is getting on my last nerve
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
kakobrekla: jurov you already got spam in your blogs commens
pankkake: it would have to be on an exchange first
ThickAsThieves: I decided it prudent not to go convincing people to list ATC til i get that source code
nubbins`: you might want to remind them that you can't stop them from doing so, though!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00091008 = 14.1972 BTC [+]
pankkake: stupid bets get approved fast!
pankkake: someone smart/not lazy could probably game the bet, with enough mining equipment
jurov: kakobrekla i know i just wanted to start something. when it gets bad i'll migrate to something more customized
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.00293511 = 0.317 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00090622 = 8.4278 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00090568 = 1.4491 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: famous words of a guy with a degree. in Exercise and Sport Science
mircea_popescu: The prison had a debriefing room, where Mohammed, who saw himself as something of a professor, held "office hours," as he told CIA officers. While chained to the floor, Mohammed would lecture the CIA officers on his path to jihad, his childhood and family. Tea and cookies were served.
mircea_popescu: i am curious whether overall the value of the guy to the cia was greater than the value of the cia to the guy.
mircea_popescu: one of these days one of those agents shoots his comanding officer and then there you have it, you bought m's tea and cookies for him.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.0894 = 0.447 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.08217274 = 0.9039 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.16999999 = 0.68 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: finally, the kids got what they really wanted all along!
mircea_popescu: it's what you get in exchange for a classics education, you can entertain yourself with any string of text.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00294999 = 0.2714 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10296 @ 0.00091176 = 9.3875 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: btw, you two, that guy's post is a good checklist of what to do. see if you can match all his links
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.24310363 = 2.431 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC
mircea_popescu: "No one observing the Western governments today can fail to be struck by a massive sense of sleepwalking. There is no unified consciousness or purpose behind their actions. Each of their decisions is an atom unto itself, made through an almost ritualized process by a large number of very intelligent, talented and ambitious people, whose abilities tend to cancel each other almost perfectly, leaving nothing but a chillin
mircea_popescu: "a country of laws, not of men" ye wanted, such a country ye now have.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 0.32895079 BTC to 287 shares, 114617 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04999998 = 0.15 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Professor Bernanke is just that - a professor. He is a specialist in a framework invented to employ specialists. Computer science is full of these research empires, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Detaching your little subfield from reality is the easiest thing in the world. Reconnecting is almost impossible. First, you'd have to admit on your grant application that you'd been studying something other than
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00294999 = 0.1032 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.59000999 = 4.1301 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: diametric btw re the goldstein thing, grep the logs for "republic of bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: also, for our couple greek speaking readers : Απολείπειν ο θεός Αντώνιον.
mircea_popescu: Σαν έξαφνα, ώρα μεσάνυχτ', ακουσθεί αόρατος θίασος να περνά με μουσικές εξαίσιες, με φωνές -- την τύχη σου που ενδίδει πια, τα έργα σου που απέτυχαν, τα σχέδια της ζωής σου
mircea_popescu: Σαν έτοιμος από καιρό, σα θαρραλέος, αποχαιρέτα την, την Αλεξάνδρεια που φεύγει.
mircea_popescu: Προ πάντων να μη γελασθείς, μην πείς πως ήταν ένα όνειρο, πως απατήθηκεν η ακοή σου· μάταιες ελπίδες τέτοιες μην καταδεχθείς.
mircea_popescu: Σαν έτοιμος από καιρό, σα θαρραλέος, σαν που ταιριάζει σε που αξιώθηκες μια τέτοια πόλι, πλησίασε σταθερά προς το παράθυρο, κι άκουσε με συγκίνησιν, αλλ' όχι με των δειλών τα παρακάλια και παράπονα,
mircea_popescu: ως τελευταία απόλαυσι τους ήχους, τα εξαίσια όργανα του μυστικού θιάσου, κι αποχαιρέτα την, την Αλεξάνδρεια που χάνεις.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.54882877 = 21.4043 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.04999993 = 2.6 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02859997 = 0.3146 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 57 @ 0.02899999 = 1.653 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in english, "Good money must have an intrinsic value. The United States of America cannot make its shadow legal tender for debts payable in money without ultimately bringing upon their foreign commerce and their home industry a catastrophe, which will be the more overwhelming the longer the day of wrath puts off its coming. Our federal constitution was designed to end forever the emission of bills of credit a
mircea_popescu: s legal tender in payment of debts, alike by the individual states and the United States; and it will have that effect, if it is rightly interpreted and firmly enforced."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02899999 = 0.29 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: the 1800s called, they want their pound of flesh back.
ThickAsThieves: i never realized how useful paulo coelho quotes could be in our world
ThickAsThieves: “When we strive to become better than we are, everything around us becomes better, too.”
ThickAsThieves: “You will never be able to escape from your heart. So it's better to listen to what it has to say.”
ThickAsThieves: “Everything that happens once can never happen again. But everything that happens twice will surely happen a third time.”
ThickAsThieves: “Remember that wherever your heart is, there you will find your treasure.”
mircea_popescu: there's an entire subculture dedicated to this stuff (and embroidery) in romania
ThickAsThieves: “It's the possibility of having a dream come true that makes life interesting.”
mircea_popescu: yeah. soft catholic, not the anti-abortion rabble-rabble types
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04800787 = 0.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.17 = 1.7 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.24310363 = 3.8897 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00292 = 0.2774 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 45359 @ 0.00009781 = 4.4366 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 410 @ 0.00448494 = 1.8388 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 19412 @ 0.00009889 = 1.9197 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9841 @ 0.00010635 = 1.0466 BTC [+] {13}
Duffer1: ya you teach those files a lesson
Duffer1: that surely fixed the leak
Duffer1: oh wow so they just blatantly threatened to shut down the guardian..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00540444 = 0.2702 BTC [-] {6}
Duffer1: oh i just read: "Asked if Downing Street really intended to close down the Guardian if it did not comply, Robbins confirmed: "I'm saying this."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
jurov: yes, govt agent are infinitely cunning or incredibly stupid...whichever befits the conspiration theoris
mircea_popescu: "A lot of people in government think you should be closed down."
mircea_popescu: tbh sounds morel ike guardian vying to retain relevance than anything
mircea_popescu: fact is, they failed to publish. who needs a sob story ?
ThickAsThieves: he's getting it, but says we'll need to sort something about the genesis block
ThickAsThieves: [14:03] <BlueMatt> the only issue is the genesis block is like timestamped or so to make them all unique
ThickAsThieves: [14:04] <BlueMatt> so you'd need to figure out the genesis block, but other than that it would be the same
ThickAsThieves: [14:05] <BlueMatt> you could dump the genesis block via rpc, I think
mircea_popescu: anyway, yeah, you can have altcoind dump any arbitrary block
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60999996 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : "Two GCHQ technical experts – "Ian" and "Chris" – recorded the process on their iPhones. " <<< law enforceement never fails to unintentionally entertain part 5487649587695
mircea_popescu: well point out to the guy it might not be the worst of ideas to store that at creation just as a convenience.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00091397 = 36.6959 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.17 = 1.36 BTC [-]
pankkake: maybe a coingen.io providing an exchange and bootstrap nodes could work better
pankkake: but that would not hide the fact that it was generated, though…
pankkake: (the endgame being destroying altcoins by flooding the market)
ThickAsThieves: "Coding bootcamps are scrambling to figure out how they can save their programs"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04999596 = 0.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "With zero premine... I'm not criticising, just wondering how you can pay bounties?" see, you're doing it right already.
pankkake: kinda like paying contractors with shares, I think
mircea_popescu: i love how he's taking the entire absurdist angle up to 11
mircea_popescu: pagefuls of retarded quotes and shit. so much win this.
pankkake: "I can't pay you, but would you like some shares of my facebook for dogs website?"
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's a step up from designerhell's commonplace "i can't pay you but you should do it for fun anyway".
pankkake: I've read a designer blog or something, yeah… I don't envy them
ozbot: "It's like twitter. Except we charge people to use it."
pankkake: well, actually, app.net did it.
pankkake: it got momentary hype and is probably dead now
ozbot: All you may ever need to know of financial planning pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: he's the one photochopping the altcoin into whatever altcoin site screencap
mircea_popescu: ima give him a bitcent, cause you gotta encourage kids. give him some altcoin too neh ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.028 = 0.364 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 24 @ 0.00448505 = 0.1076 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: are we gonna se altcoin options on mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
mircea_popescu: s.mpoe statement rectified (~5.4 extra btc expenses on mpex sheet)
ozbot: [NEW] The REAL Altcoin
mircea_popescu: who knew all it took was not premining. certainly all the 5464598769485 derps in the subforum there hadn't figured it out, their premine is like their holy grail
mircea_popescu: clearly satoshi had done that wrong, and clearly they be fixin' it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC
ozbot: Dennis The Constitutional Peasant - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00091087 = 17.1244 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00579426 = 0.1333 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC
mircea_popescu: "Everyone that is saying that I have some kind of gambling addiction is a douche and they can go and die in hell. I have never had and I will never had a fucking gambling problem."
mircea_popescu: lmao "galtcoin", libertyblabla, scrypt, only 1k coins (20 blocks) premined for "testing"
mircea_popescu: pumper answer ? "o we had an [unannounced] open beta" but srsly, we don't mean to do any harm"
ozbot: [ANN]GaltCoin - Full Release
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 42 @ 0.00310008 = 0.1302 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00090855 = 17.8076 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
mircea_popescu: btw, get bluematt to take off w/e links/watermarks/anything nao.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.028 = 0.112 BTC [-]
ozbot: [BaLBOND] - Pre IPO - Bitcoin's Only Exchangeable Bond
ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Hey @dogecoin, prepare to eat ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 189 @ 0.00447956 = 0.8466 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 49865 @ 0.00011199 = 5.5844 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.1749 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
ozbot: [NEW] The REAL Altcoin
ThickAsThieves: just text that says "Goat says: "Bitcoin is NOT Illegal in Thailand. There is no law against Bitcoin in Thailand!""
mircea_popescu: thermos is now taking goat's coin ? how much difference does a year make when you're 25, i swear.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0280909 = 0.309 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 90 @ 0.0028 = 0.252 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: altcoin will get exactly what it needs at exactly the right moment
ozbot: ROG-O-MATIC: A Belligerent Expert System
ozbot: [CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - Rarest Coin EVER - RELEASED!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that was afaik the best thing ai experts ever came up with.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00091382 = 8.9554 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, cga stands for anomaly w/e the fuck. the guy's idea is that the block reward for solved blocks is 0 unless some extended-modulo conditions of difficulty are met.
mircea_popescu: which he intended to make simple more-power equations unreliable
mircea_popescu: but which in fact simply make solo mining even less feasible.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.175 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: typical "we will fix this" government approach resulting in shooting own foot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 150 @ 0.00262032 = 0.393 BTC [-] {8}
mircea_popescu: "You really are a fucking idiot and have no idea what you are talking about. The project I am working on will be more successful than twitter within a year. When I sell the project for 40 million dollars I will ignore any emails from you begging to be a part of it and will send you a postcard from my yaght."
mircea_popescu: well it just goes to show i don't realy master that space :)
mircea_popescu: is this the expert system that blew the usnavy staff outof water ?
mircea_popescu: tho to be honest... it's success had more to do with bureaucratic idiocy
mircea_popescu: (kind of the reason nobody seriously believes the us has any real chance in any serious military confrontation)
mircea_popescu: it strictly won by exploiting badly written rules, neh ?
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't even have to go that far. just, you know... england beat spain into the dirt by using privateers.
mircea_popescu: spain at the time was roughly the us of today : immense empire run by idiots, access to all the gold in the world that did them no service etc etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00090853 = 15.1725 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: actually, if there's any merit in the theory of history repeating itself, we could guess that the largest bubble for the next ~3 centuries will be the result of a RoB corporation being granted the priviledge to trade one ships' worth of drugs in the us as a result of a defeatr of the us in battle.
mircea_popescu: hm... that's possible. the alternate crackpottery, of course, being that his actual work is still classified
pizzaman1337: mpex seriously made 1`830 BTC from new accounts in Jan? insane
mircea_popescu: perhaps a very tall, slender student perfectly capable to suck a golfball through a garden hose.
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 you know! nobody goes "mercedes srsly sold 50 cars in 2014 ?! ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: it's best showing on the battlefiled for a long... long time.
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: well, nice work. It's just hard to believe, I suppose.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 822.57, Best ask: 822.91, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 822.91, 24 hour volume: 7141.70092059, 24 hour low: 800.76, 24 hour high: 827.38, 24 hour vwap: 814.575137306
ozbot: EURISKO - Everything2.com
ozbot: 2193847870.17428 | Next Diff in 610 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.0561% in 3d 12h 14m 55s
pankkake: that's not going to help me win the diff under 10% bet :(
mircea_popescu: actually... perversely enough that bet depends on there not being a lot of power thrown in early.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 184 @ 0.00084476 = 0.1554 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3473 @ 0.00091473 = 3.1769 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116527 @ 0.00091598 = 106.7364 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00574505 = 0.1034 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00549423 = 0.2198 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.1749 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10233 @ 0.00090918 = 9.3036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85000 @ 0.00092071 = 78.2604 BTC [+] {5}
deadweasel: pankkake: start pumping out altcoins like TAT, maybe you'll pull some off btc ;)
jurov: no xenu. bot good.
decimation: TAT's altcoin should be ported to work inside Ethereum
decimation: maybe you can trade altcoin for ethers or whatever
mircea_popescu: does that actually require any chances on the coin side ?
jurov: i vote for porting bernankoin
decimation: right, Ethereum just does whatever, because it's turing complete.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6067 @ 0.00091685 = 5.5625 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: [17:41] <lewicki> by your definition that makes Altcoin just as purposeless though, right?
ThickAsThieves: [17:44] <ThickAsThieves> Wrong, i just stated its purpose. Without Altcoin, all altcoins would be purposeless.
mircea_popescu: my magical future predictive ai (whose name is joan) fails to predict any possible alternative to this thing taking over altspace.
Namworld: Wait, in the header. What's the name on the board. It ends with O.
Namworld: Looks like it's written "Monopolio". Is that it?
Namworld: Couldn't they have just changed the y for an i? Monopoli
Namworld: Would have sounded about the same as in english that way.
mircea_popescu: i suppose when people localise shit how it sounds in english is not a consideration.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.00095705 = 52.6378 BTC [+] {4}
nubbins`: as an aside, i find "scammor" to be a pleasant, if unintentional, spelling
nubbins`: brings me back to a heated grade-school argument over "better" vs "bettor" to describe one who bets
mircea_popescu: scammer - scammor. to distinguish between the fucktard and the person sort-of doing it, technically, but with coolness excuses.
pankkake: so when you get scammed, you can say "at least the guy was good"
mircea_popescu: well, my next question was, ever been with a hooker you didn't mind paying.
nubbins`: they're popular with screenprinters who do things the old-school way (ink on vellum)
mircea_popescu: some scams are fun. you go to vegas and drop a coupla grand, whatever, it's an amusement park.
nubbins`: i think most people doing that don't have fun
pankkake: I'm too much of a scrooge to ever pay for those things
nubbins`: it's always the small words that give me trouble
nubbins`: what, we can't just pick random mots and use them dans a phrase?!
pankkake: maybe it's my throbbing headache
nubbins`: written accents indicate a massive failure
pankkake: yet no one noticed gribble being offline for a few hours
nubbins`: tbh i was waiting for an AMAZING COMPANY! earlier
lippoper: assbot needs to start producing some ass bait
pankkake: I was expecting you to troll us, kakobrekla
kakobrekla: but you expected it , so it wouldnt be fun
nubbins`: "do you want a vag birth or a c-section?"
nubbins`: did i mention earlier about that gut flora article i was reading?
nubbins`: the take-away i got from it is that you should smear shit on your newborn if you Aliened it into the world
nubbins`: and no, before you ask, i'm not a doctor
nubbins`: altho TBF even if it wasn't, would i have known?
mircea_popescu: specifically to avoid the female "shit on your baby" reflex.
nubbins`: now the child is immediately dipped in Purell hand sanitizer
lippoper: No one really knew what a vag looked like thanks to all the bush
nubbins`: only the men who earned their wings knew, you mean
nubbins`: pankkake, is that a monospace font?
lippoper: there was a lot of troll in the last sentence
mircea_popescu: i tell you, i've had so much fun with this thread these days...
nubbins`: "Did I do the math wrong or is this really larger than all other altcoins atm?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56001101 BTC [-]
pankkake: I'm going to convince my dentist to accept it instead
nubbins`: i'm going to convince tat that he needs t-shirts for all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-]
jurov: pankkake: tellhim to add liquuidity to teeht/altcoin market
jurov: i have altcoin futures
jurov: with bitcoin delivery
Vexual: price is 0.0004 per each
pankkake: haha, that's the Free.fr guys, I knew I saw it earlier
lewicki: that 100k marketcap, yeah, nty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
Vexual: 0.0004 is just south of 1%
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1299 BTC [-]
nubbins`: there's your xmas shopping done
Vexual: ima buy me a arcehorse
pankkake: yay got 0.00000122 BTC shilling for bitbet
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00090614 = 17.3526 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i chose the stats by multiplying 512, and the doing 515 ^ 512
ThickAsThieves: [18:22] <nubbins`> there's your xmas shopping done <<< lol
ThickAsThieves: if you overlap the 5 and the 2 then use the 1 as the connector
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, vexual should be altcoin mascot.
Vexual: im busy printing privatekeys under bottlecaps for stripclubs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.171 = 0.342 BTC [-]
jurov: vexual what are patrons to do with the caps, again?
Vexual: jurov you let the lass who takes the wire off the bottle keep it
jurov: yes? i thought it's supposed to be put onto striper's body somehow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00540228 = 5.4023 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00043014 = 0.4301 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 249 @ 0.00042418 = 0.1056 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9945 @ 0.00091541 = 9.1038 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.171 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04800001 = 0.192 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.173 = 0.346 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Just for the record: Approximate price for 1 ALT should be 0.00000549 BTC or 0.0002 LTC or 0.44 cents.
mircea_popescu: (Hashrate is 8900x lower than BTC but in addition to that the reward is also 20.48x higher than BTC.)
Vexual: but when it is the only alt?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1199 BTC [-]
Vexual: so theres around 1.2 blocks to the block
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 350 @ 0.00042001 = 0.147 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.1745 = 0.349 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 341 @ 0.00082731 = 0.2821 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 148 @ 0.00082555 = 0.1222 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00090884 = 8.4522 BTC [-]
deadweasel: when does it get listed on cryptsy? that's when the others start to die
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 352 @ 0.00082555 = 0.2906 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.175 = 0.35 BTC [+]
Namworld: Even Facebook is showing me ads for gold and silver coins.
Vexual: that cuban took krss lady
kleeck: Wasn't that a confirmed paid prostitute?
mircea_popescu: don't even want to think about what her skin looked like
kleeck: She wasn't getting through the gate with less than 6.
kleeck: What a great way to legitimize Bitcoin!
Namworld: Have you ever had so much crack you turned golden from the sheer intake of value into your body?
kleeck: Yes. That was a good year...
mircea_popescu: no, but i've seen girls with spots so bad painting them with a wide brush was the only way.