assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 914 @ 0.0004995 = 0.4565 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 914 @ 0.00051 = 0.4661 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2677 @ 0.00047971 = 1.2842 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: "But even if using bitcoins doesn’t make it harder for law enforcement to prove that sex was bought"
mircea_popescu: bitcoin makes it impossible to prosecute prostitution charges, which was a tenuous proposition in the first place.
smickles: best hooker i've had charged 2 kids and a house
ozbot: [SolarWind , A Bitcoin Mining Company] 100TH/s Mining Farm - Official Thread
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 733 @ 0.000499 = 0.3658 BTC [+]
smickles: anyone here know how to get apache to pass a subdomain to localhost, whenever i try it's either all or nothing where i want it to be just the one subdomain and leave the rest alone
jurov: smickles, i don't understand. you want to have different vhosts?
smickles: jurov: well, *.smickles.com (including smickles.com) goes to the usual place, and specific.subdomain.com get's proxypassed to localhost:8000
smickles: i'm starting to think that proxypass isn't the way to do it
jurov: you want only something.smickles.com proxypassed and other subdomains left as is?
jurov: you need to use mod_rewrite for that
smickles: well, well, well. we tango again
smickles: last time i had to do something with mod_rewrite, i blew it all up
jurov: lol... simpleshell.com uses mod_rewrite to proxy pass differetn paths to different places
jurov: updated on the go via .htaccess
smickles: it's all fine and dandy unless i somehow fuck up the minecraft people's game
smickles: 'cause hourly backup and 5 min of downtime is unacceptable to them
smickles: yeah, what i want to do is like 2 lines on nginx
kakobrekla: your simple shell says i can use ping in the instructions
smickles: hmm, ok, wordpress is doing something to catch all subdomains and count them as user registration start pages
smickles: haha, i must be getting closer, as it redirected to local localhost, rather than the remote localhost
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 446 @ 0.000499 = 0.2226 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 11000 @ 0.00051309 = 5.644 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0675 = 0.2025 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 650 @ 0.0005288 = 0.3437 BTC [+]
smickles: thanks jurov. plus, i didn't blow it all up
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.0005288 = 0.2644 BTC [+]
ozbot: MPOE, September 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1145 @ 0.00051238 = 0.5867 BTC [-] {2}
smickles: i oughtta get a bot going again
smickles: mircea_popescu: why does the "Operational results, MPEx" section look nonsenseical to me?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 784 @ 0.0005 = 0.392 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 581 @ 0.00051 = 0.2963 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 431 @ 0.00052 = 0.2241 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 2043 @ 0.00485 = 9.9086 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 19 @ 0.014 = 0.266 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 902 @ 0.00048546 = 0.4379 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 6 @ 0.521 = 3.126 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 34 @ 0.00485 = 0.1649 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.0639 = 0.1278 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3913 @ 0.00056343 = 2.2047 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1704 @ 0.00055016 = 0.9375 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.00051573 = 1.0315 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 250 @ 0.00052015 = 0.13 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.475 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 642 @ 0.00036967 = 0.2373 BTC [+]
ozbot: Betcoin fraud... This is just getting ridiculous
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 31430 @ 0.00033217 = 10.4401 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 280 @ 0.0005296 = 0.1483 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 29 @ 0.0097 = 0.2813 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6070 @ 0.00032203 = 1.9547 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01357 = 0.1357 BTC [-]
VanCleef: just reading latest mpex financial report
VanCleef: why are they wasting 12 btc on pr and marketing when mpex now is pretty much completely dead
VanCleef: the marketing Pr isn't working and its costing 12btc every time?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.482 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: prolly cause the ceo is clueless and hasn't yet come to these realisations
mircea_popescu: he's been known to be outspending all of the various bitcoin jesuses taken together in any given month, so probably that too.
VanCleef: if i was paying someone to do marketing PR for 12btc they better be bringing in new accounts
mircea_popescu: same thing with mining, when i plunk down 12 btc for a miner i expect it to have been in my office three weeks prior.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.45725 = 11.658 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.04666 = 0.4666 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 26 @ 0.0466 = 1.2116 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.438 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 199 @ 0.00053 = 0.1055 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1350 @ 0.00146215 = 1.9739 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 487 @ 0.00115054 = 0.5603 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 87 @ 0.00116997 = 0.1018 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 100 @ 0.00164 = 0.164 BTC [-]
ozbot: Tricky "Puppy Toy" - YouTube
gribble: Current Blocks: 260522 | Current Difficulty: 1.4881919980509263E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 262079 | Next Difficulty In: 1557 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 5 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 177527240.021 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.29055
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 139.50420, Best ask: 140.96992, Bid-ask spread: 1.46572, Last trade: 139.50418, 24 hour volume: 24408.67095167, 24 hour low: 134.82811, 24 hour high: 142.66000, 24 hour vwap: 138.89580
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.01300818 = 1.9382 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 150 @ 0.00485 = 0.7275 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.47864284 = 20.701 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.49 = 7.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.49 = 37.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 22 @ 0.1423 = 3.1306 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.49 = 8.94 BTC [+]
Vexual: do you wish any twisted revenge on the attacker?
Vexual: if you have any leads, i'd delight in replacing his computer with a broken amstrad
mircea_popescu: ppl wish to donate their time for the strengthening of mpex and spreading of the gpg goodword, all the better.
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.00054034 = 0.5403 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: i'll be a lot more worried when everyone stops trying tbh.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i see a bunch of people have already sent their keys, keep em coming.
Vexual: seriously , i need a new computer
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.1423 = 1.423 BTC [-]
[\]: you were collecting keys, so I started throwing random ones out
[\]: nothing like a keyring with random keys
[\]: it makes unlocking more interesting
mod6: heh, im actually still running a up-to-date 686 fbsd host:
mod6: % dmesg | grep "CPU"
mod6: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) (900.16-MHz 686-class CPU)
mod6: runs like a champ hahah
Vexual: i burnt my fingerprints off on a 386
mircea_popescu: mod6 wouldn't surprise me if they will soon sell at a premium.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the last generation where people can be certain no nsa skulldruggery was added.
Vexual: rasta don't work for no cia
ozbot: Bob Marley - Rat Race - YouTube
mod6: This box is the last one remaining of the 5 I built back in 2001 or so. I did replace the PS at one point on this one. But I built these boxes from new parts @ newegg.
mod6: All of them were just for my personal NOC. Cost me like $1500 or something. Was a steal at the time for 5 built hosts.
Vexual: i used to sell pcs when i was 15
mod6: Vexual: they were all of the same config -- the athlon 900mhz
mod6: real memory = 268435456 (256 MB)
mod6: thing has like 12-13 years of nearly 100% uptime. except moves, a few power outages. the PS used to knock so bad because the PS fan had a bad bearing. I finally replaced it.
mod6: Once I did, I missed the white noise from the damn thing.
mod6: *ka-clack* *ka-clack* *bzzzzz* *ka-clack*
Vexual: they dont build em like the used to
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13000 @ 0.00049342 = 6.4145 BTC [-] {19}
mod6: heheh, i suppose they dont. thing used to just run ircd and bind.
Vexual: now hey play fuckin 4k
mod6: speaking of amazing company... is that a new low?
Vexual: second hand xbox.million dollars!
[\]: amazing company is amazing
[\]: amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing
[\]: might wanna cap that
[\]: good thing supa isn't around atm
mircea_popescu: mod6 i had a fan do that once. so i took the fan apart.
Vexual: you dont look like the sort with airbourne pubes mp
ozbot: Six-year-old becomes first transgender child in Argentina to change identity - Telegraph
mircea_popescu: the Children, Youth and Family Secretary ruled children under 14 were capable of giving consent and cited international human rights
mircea_popescu: get a load of this. children ubnder 14 are now capable of giving consent in argentina.
Vexual: i wanted to be a man, and i was well on my way
mod6: !ticker btctc labcoin
assbot: [BTCT:LABCOIN] 1D: 0.0002402 / 0.00048 / 0.0007776 (926722 shares, 447.8 BTC), 7D: 0.0002402 / 0.00125 / 0.002849 (5036941 shares, 6293.9 BTC), 30D: 0.0002402 / 0.00223 / 0.003989 (14342052 shares, 31935.7 BTC)
Vexual: except for the cryind and the stupid decisions
VanCleef: why do you always took about kids n that?
Vexual: in further news, water on mars, bring a laser
VanCleef: obsessed with kids or something
mod6: Vexual: i saw that on the weather channel of all things.
Vexual: what were you like at 14 vancleef?
VanCleef: lol this is like the 5th time this week i seen you mention kids
VanCleef: i've been scheming since i'm 14, what was your dream?
mircea_popescu: VanCleef Aug 23 17:40:44 <Rulother>I need a bot on here that counts how many times you mention scams and scammers mp
mircea_popescu: that theory didn;'t work out too well either. i just mention everything.
Vexual: fuck man ive been scemeing since i was born man, i could probably scheme this whole thing, and still walk away, wouldn't be no problem at all
ozbot: Cheech & Chong - Up In Smoke - Funniest Scenes - YouTube
Vexual: yeah well if your coomputer turns into an amstrad, dont eat nothing from your fridge man
mod6: damn that looks gnarly
VanCleef: hate it when you get gangrene on your balls
mod6: Instead, the discharge is often described as "sweetly putrid" or "dishwater pus" because it is much thinner than normal pus.
VanCleef: bbs, trying to eat dinner here
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.5231 BTC [+]
mod6: i clicked on that cause of 'wtf' and yah, that looks really not good. apparently this is in the pelvis region. im not super clued on this stuff tho.
Vexual: i turned to alcoholism for my priaprism
mod6: i just think 'how can life go on after such an operation' but alas, life goes on i suppose.
Vexual: life begins after 0.02
mod6: i don't see how one can survive such a tramatic surgery
mod6: but what do i know lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 207 @ 0.000501 = 0.1037 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 1.51015826 = 4.5305 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 1.50544 = 7.5272 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1540 @ 0.00050945 = 0.7846 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1059 @ 0.00051782 = 0.5484 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: leo wheres the fuckin atms?
Vexual: i hope u got a good customs agent in poland or wherever
ozbot: Bottom percussion PATAX. - YouTube
Vexual: leo you got a loction for your sydney machine yet?
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 6 @ 0.082 = 0.492 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.013 = 0.624 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: maybe this coming week i'll be able to test out my -assets socket script.
mod6: being free of other obligations for the last ~27 days has been awesome for my side-projects.
mod6: thx. took 8 months of wrap up or more. but it was either ditch it, or get in far deeper as there was much more to do coming down the pipe. so to speak.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 1.38618998 = 13.8619 BTC [-] {8}
mod6: in the mean time i've been plowing ahead on the android tool. done well with that. gotten RSA clearsign/enc/dec working. so that felt great.
mircea_popescu: i think we're going to see a famine of good crypto products the coming decade.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1423 BTC [-]
mod6: it was another strange issue that i ran into a week ago. some of these crypto libs are a bit lacking compared to say what gnupg can do out of the box.
mod6: bouncy-castle is this lib that is available for use, which works fine with RSA but when it comes to DH/DSS or DSA/ElGamal no worky.
[\]: the android bitcoin wallet uses bouncy-castle
mod6: starting here: : ElGamal Encryption with DSA
mod6: [\\\]: ya, it might. i know that bitcoinj does
mircea_popescu: i orginally thought elgamal was the correct choice, but seems i was wrong
[\]: mod6: bitcoin wallet is based off bitcoinj
mod6: had massive problems trying to use BC for not just DSA sigs, but using ElGamal subkey with DSA pub keys.
mod6: so think i acutally coded myself around it. but now it should be a problem anymore.
mod6: im not really saying anything about bitcoin wallet or bitcoinj in particular. just that BC seems to be an incomplete implementation when held up next to gnupg
mod6: or i could just be derp
mircea_popescu: my current curiosity in the field is why isn't cramer–shoup more widely usedf.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: at any rate it should have been implemented in preference of elgamal
[\]: bitcoin is an incomplete implementation
[\]: I don't think it was supposed to be
mircea_popescu: i was discussing gpg/pgp/ssh keys/whatever else uses diffie-hellman
mod6: yeah. i think that since elgamal is malleable, using the universal one-way hash to achieve the non-mallebility make cramer-shoup an interesting choice.
mod6: the NSA probably put the kabosh on it lol
mircea_popescu: i'd really like to be enlightened as to what practical consideration recommends the use of elgamal still.
mod6: yeah, its strange that elgamal wasn't stayed away from more since it doesn't conform to ind-cca1/2
mircea_popescu: i mean in the 90s right ? i can see it. but it's 2013. we got powah.
mod6: yeah. its prettyamazing
mircea_popescu: i don't presume to read crypto implementations as if i understand anything.
mod6: here's the meat: alpha = hashBitList(pk.k,pk.p,pk.hash,bitListThree(pk.k,u1,u2,e))
mod6: maybe gnupg needs a patch where this is translated to C and DSA/ElGamal are removed
mircea_popescu: if someone did that i'd certainly want to see what the maintainer does.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.45014285 = 10.151 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: yah, that'd get interesting.
mod6: i've got all the 1.4.14 src local actually. i was doing some gdb of the sucker recently.
ozbot: Debian Package Tracking System -
mircea_popescu: The current maintainer is looking for someone who can help with the maintenance of this package.
mircea_popescu: now that you got out of a shitty job paying not enough for a lot of work
mircea_popescu: time to get a shittier job paying nothing at all for a TON of work.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 1.3004 BTC [-]
mod6: i'll take a deeper look this coming week.
mod6: next week too (after sunday) i'll be testing to make sure that the RSA enc/dec of the cmds is working as it should.
mod6: actually, i already know it works since i tested them while enc/dec with my own key without having to leave the local system.
mod6: i just need it to interact, get a response and display. once that's done. code cleanup + testing on my actual device instead of the emu.
mod6: then we'll see where that goes.
ozbot: BitBet - KnCMiner will deliver ASIC devices before October 1st
mod6: "Suck it Pizza-dick I will be spending up your sweet sweet btc next weekend :D" << lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 174 @ 0.00979425 = 1.7042 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3011 @ 0.0099 = 29.8089 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i like that best. 4 btc bet on like... 29/100`000 weight.
mod6: the calculator thingy is sweet tho
[\]: "ASICMINER will be higher than 2 BTC on October 31st 2013. If assbot relays any trade of any AsicMiner passthrough at or under 2 BTC per share at any point during October 31st, 2013, this bet resolves as No. Otherwise, the bet resolves as Yes."
[\]: that bet is totally gameable
[\]: since there is no depth
mircea_popescu: [\\\] asicminer is like... the only OTHER actual company publicly listed.
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's a weak bet, i wouldn't risk too much dust on it.
[\]: it probably would have been better to structure it was any trade >2 resolves as Yes
[\]: that would constitute "ASICMINER will be higher than 2 BTC on Oct 31, 2013"
[\]: otherwise, the title text should have read ASICMINER will continuously trade >2 BTC on Oct 31, 2013"
[\]: there's a difference between A trade and ALL trades on a given day
[\]: further, it doesn't give a timezone
[\]: and since you have multiple PT on multiple TZ, there's more room for error
[\]: Where's that listed?
[\]: How do we know what time it is at bitbet?
[\]: nowhere does it say "Time is XYZ"
mod6: What timezone is BitBet in?
VanCleef: i gotta admit i really enjoy bitbet
mircea_popescu: i personally think most of its potential hasn't really been unlocked yet.
mircea_popescu: the comment section for instance... it's like purified 4chan with something to talk about.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.6498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 143 @ 0.001365 = 0.1952 BTC [-]
ozbot: Daily Kos: Twitter CEO Blown Away by Iran President's Account as Rouhani Re-Tweets State Department
jurov: omg welcome to age of twatter diplomacy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2741 @ 0.00032204 = 0.8827 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 941 @ 0.00032204 = 0.303 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15280 @ 0.00032202 = 4.9205 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4358 @ 0.00032202 = 1.4034 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: basically after the stunningly cold ownage putin delivered in the ny times, everyone wants to get a finger in the honey jar located in obama's recently decerebrated skull.
assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 799 @ 0.0014 = 1.1186 BTC [+]
Namworld: ugh, so many requests to cash out BTC-BOND. Anyone wants to get them or should I start liquidating a bit of stuff?
mircea_popescu: Namworld i would say prepare for a freeze in finance. winter's coming.
Namworld: Let's see what I can cash out... hmm.
Namworld: No, just visiting family. Caught a flu, didn't feel like going on the computer afterward.
Namworld: ok well I found what to liquidate.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.1423 = 0.5692 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 63 @ 0.01252062 = 0.7888 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 37 @ 0.00988143 = 0.3656 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.0565 = 0.1695 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 250 @ 0.00486 = 1.215 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: Namworld, do you have the link to your google spreadsheet ?
ozbot: Namworld's Portfolio
Namworld: or you mean the google spreadsheet tools thread?
Apocalyptic: nope that's the link i was looking for, thanks !
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.00048612 = 1.4584 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.464 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 501 @ 0.00032199 = 0.1613 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.466 = 2.932 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.10780556 = 1.0781 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: $100 for $100 Fine Silver Coin - The Grizzly (2014)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 400 @ 0.00031902 = 0.1276 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.013 = 0.429 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.439 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.10780556 = 0.539 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2035 @ 0.000509 = 1.0358 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 900 @ 0.0005188 = 0.4669 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01285501 = 0.1286 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.012816 = 2.5632 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 800 @ 0.0005188 = 0.415 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: Namworld, out of curiosity what assets did you liquidate ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 26 @ 0.1423 = 3.6998 BTC [-]
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 383 BTC profit, 43.2k BTC invested, 142.70 mio bets, 2.08 mio BTC wagered
Namworld: "[07:07] <Namworld> ok well I found what to liquidate.
Namworld: [07:07] <Namworld> Goodbye fiat.
Diablo-D3: Namworld: so are you moving btc-mining or just dropping it?
Namworld: I guess I'll keep an offline list.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.43524999 = 11.482 BTC [-] {5}
Diablo-D3: Namworld: how many DMC do you have atm?
Diablo-D3: Namworld: you own 14% of DMC, I wonder who the other 86% is
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.43333333 = 4.3 BTC [-] {2}
Diablo-D3: Namworld: yeah, theres only 4028 left
assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 201 @ 0.001382 = 0.2778 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.00049 = 0.98 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.432 = 5.728 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.42933333 = 4.288 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 20 @ 0.047049 = 0.941 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 52 @ 0.009551 = 0.4967 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 530 @ 0.00036174 = 0.1917 BTC [-] {10}
pigeons: is there a new url for mpex or still coming soon?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.429 BTC [-]
FabianB_: pigeons: i guess same url, tomorrow noon gmt
gribble: Error: "later" is not a valid command.
Graet: ;;later tell nubbins` more info needed
nubbins`: not to split hairs, but "later" obv is a valid command
gribble: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
pankkake: no, the command is latter tell
pankkake: those coins are very interesting, but not for us eurofags :(
nubbins`: play your cards right, i might sell you one ;)
nubbins`: it's a poor price for the amount of silver
nubbins`: but they're sold at face value, so there's no risk of losing money on the deal
Namworld: The canadian mints makes WAY too many coins.
Namworld: There's hundreds upon hundreds of designs in all sort of denominations and metal contents.
pankkake: oh, so there's a face value that is actually higher than the silver value?
Diablo-D3: Namworld: yeah and the hilarious part is
Diablo-D3: its why I'll accept gold and silver from any major mint
nubbins`: pankkake: yep, it's an oddity in that regard
nubbins`: the 1oz silver rounds have a face value of $5
nubbins`: and the $20 for $20 silver coins are, i think, 1/4oz
nubbins`: Namworld: they make SO MANY coins. Didja see all the superman ones?
nubbins`: find me a coin with a face value equal to its silver content
Diablo-D3: although a bitcoin denominated one would be
nubbins`: i guess i'm mildly confused about the lol
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: face values are lol to me
Diablo-D3: you know what 1 oz of silver is worth?
nubbins`: well, see, that's what's funny about these 20 for 20/100 for 100 coins
Diablo-D3: 1 oz silver or gold IS a denomination
nubbins`: they could just as well be steel coins
Diablo-D3: yes, and if it was steel, 1 oz of steel would be the denomination
truffles: would be nice to lug around silver coins everywhere too
Namworld: The face value is always completly unrelated to metal contents
Diablo-D3: Namworld: no, oz IS the face value
Diablo-D3: for anything but oz to be inscribed on a coin or bar is nonsensical
Diablo-D3: that'd be like writing $1USD (90 CDN cents) on a dollar bill
nubbins`: nonsensical for it to say 25 cents?
Diablo-D3: now, if it was a SILVER quarter, yes, it'd be nonsensical to write 25 cents on it
Diablo-D3: because its not worth 25 cents, its worth more.
nubbins`: and that's why i find these coins so interesting
nubbins`: they're only worth about $6 as silver
nubbins`: but i can walk into a store and purchase $20 worth of goods with it
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: they put $20 on $6 of silver?!
Namworld: It's legal tender. It's like those worthless paper bills
Namworld: The paper isn't worth $20, it's still $20
nubbins`: the $100 coin is only slightly over 1ozt
pankkake: who gives you the $20 if you want them, the mint?
Diablo-D3: Namworld: well, to be fair, I _prefer_ the physical currency being worthless
pigeons: no the $20 worth of silver ones are marked $1. seriously
nubbins`: pankkake: you mean, how can i exchange my $20 coin for $20?
Diablo-D3: Namworld: its a representational currency
nubbins`: walk into a store and hand it to the cashier
Diablo-D3: Namworld: if a $100 gets ripped up, its easy to replace with a brand new bill
nubbins`: or walk into a bank and deposit it to your account
pankkake: nubbins`: well, I doubt they would accept it
Diablo-D3: $100 of silver is destroyed, well, its going to cost money to fix
nubbins`: pankkake: they might have to call a manager over
Namworld: That's what's odd about canadian mint coins. You could have a 100 face value coin with 20 dollars worth of silver or a 5 dollar face value coin with 1000 dollars worth of gold in it.
nubbins`: pankkake: but it's legal tender. they can't refuse it
pankkake: so this coin is interesting only for a canadian anyway
Diablo-D3: Namworld: the second part makes much more sense
Diablo-D3: Im totally use to coins that are worth far more than their face value
nubbins`: pankkake: well, if you could deposit CAD in your USD bank account...
Diablo-D3: because gold and silver prices are stable wrt fiat
Diablo-D3: 1 oz of gold is always 1 oz of gold
truffles: is that why you want to end paper currency?
Diablo-D3: since the opening of the fed, we're at like, what, $1 USD = 3 cents?
nubbins`: give me a situation where $1USD != $1USD
pigeons: yeah canada's commemorative coins are marked many times below their silver content value, so this guy is just mistaken
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: a unit of currency is supposed to be a stable representation of purchasing power
Diablo-D3: inflation depletes the purchasing power of currency
truffles: when your Bitcoins get hacked, how does it get fixed?
Diablo-D3: pre-Fed USD is worth far more than USD now.
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: fair enough, although that's an odd way to say it
nubbins`: pigeons: on what point am i mistaken?
pigeons: what is the face value of a silver maple leaf?
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: well, this is what fiat currency does to you, it makes you think what I said was odd
pigeons: how miuch silver is in it?
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: if I build a time machine, shovel a million dollars into it, go back in time to the day the Fed was opened
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: I become one of the richest men alive
pigeons: ok so deposit your $30 of silver in the bank and you get $5
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: but now, millionares are a dime a dozen
truffles: time machine i wouldnt chose that ..
nubbins`: pigeons: yes, but nobody would do that
nubbins`: pigeons: they'd sell it as metal
Namworld: This one has almost the same face value as silver content...
truffles: id go tell Princess Diana dont get the car
Namworld: As I said, face value and metal contents are always completly unrelated with canadian mint coins.
nubbins`: see, the mint itself sells coins at HUGE markups
Namworld: Beside, they're heavily marked up.
nubbins`: they sell silver maple leafs for $95, where you can buy them from any coin shop for $25
Diablo-D3: and asked them to make me a $100 coin
pigeons: they used to would make you a $1 coin
Diablo-D3: because I'd totally show up with a ton
Diablo-D3: and walk away with several quadrillion dollars
nubbins`: anyway, the point i was making is
Namworld: They only make a bunch of models each year and make a few 10000s of each coin
Namworld: like 100-200 models yearly I guess.
Diablo-D3: you know how much the US mint makes?
nubbins`: usually with bullion coins, nobody gives a fuck about the face value because it's more valuable as bullion
Namworld: and sell for about 1-3x metal content value
nubbins`: but with these 20 for 20 / 100 for 100 coins
nubbins`: they're worth more as face value than bullion
Diablo-D3: oz of precious metal IS the face value, its a unit of currency
pigeons: no its the opposite nubbins`
pigeons: oh your talking about some special ones, sorry
Namworld: It definitly should be. You can't put a fixed fiat value on a precious metal coin.
Diablo-D3: yeah, hes talking about ones that have $5 of metal in them for $20
ozbot: $100 for $100 Fine Silver Coin - The Grizzly (2014)
nubbins`: $100 face value, but only 1oz silver
Diablo-D3: and any coin collector should reject them
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: you cant buy them for $5
truffles: learn something new everyday itc
Diablo-D3: Ive never seen a coin where the face value isnt a tiny fraction of the actual value
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: you can from a coin collector whos selling them for weight
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: because the coin collector paid $20 each
Namworld: They're purely collector coins/souvenir/memorabilia. I don't think they're meant for investment nor circulation.
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: I think you misunderstood
nubbins`: the mint is the only place you can buy these coins
Diablo-D3: people who buy gold and silver by the oz do not care what the face value is
nubbins`: and they're selling them at face value
Diablo-D3: so if you show up with an oz of silver, I am paying you $2x for it.
Diablo-D3: I dont care if the coin says $100 CDN
Diablo-D3: because its worth what the silver spot price is.
nubbins`: and that's why nobody would bring these coins to you
Diablo-D3: however, it doesnt stop me from using that as $100 of fiat currency because canada is retarded
nubbins`: they'd keep them, or sell them to coin collectors at a profit, or spend them at the grocery store
Diablo-D3: seriously, do you know how simple it is to make fake coins?
Diablo-D3: melt down existing silver, pour it into a 3D printed mold of a $100 coin
nubbins`: essentially, the mint is saying "hey, trade your shitty paper money for sweet coins with a tiny bit of silver"
nubbins`: Diablo-D3: so what are you waiting for?
nubbins`: free money machine. buy a plane ticket
nubbins`: free money machine. buy a 3d printer
Diablo-D3: Im already on a government watch list and they're reading what Im writing anyhow
nubbins`: free money machine. get it mailed to your mom's house
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: my mom died, and this IS my mom's house
nubbins`: you're trying to tell me you can hand-pour silver into a 3d printed mould
nubbins`: a private citizen would be crazy to accept one of these coins as legal tender
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: yes, but if its canadian legal currency
nubbins`: so i go to the bank instead. problem solved
nubbins`: they say no, what are you gonna do? call the cops?
Diablo-D3: in canada its probably not a legal requirement
Diablo-D3: yup, and then you tell the cops they refused payment
nubbins`: and then you're explaining to the cops what this funny coin is
nubbins`: and then you get charged with counterfeiting currency
Diablo-D3: which then verifies its legal tender
Diablo-D3: truffles: cops dont taze people around here
nubbins`: they're gonna verify your hand-poured coin as legal tender?
Diablo-D3: most of them dont even care tazers, they're too dangerous
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: they cant tell the difference
Diablo-D3: it'll just look like tarnished silver
nubbins`: have you ever seen a hand-poured coin?
truffles: maybe not in the good ole days, they seem pretty trigger happy nowadays imo
nubbins`: and have you ever seen the level of detain in these silver coins from the mint?
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: I have, some of them are exceedingly clever
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: some people have even made stamping machines
nubbins`: but it's an incredibly labourious process to make dies
nubbins`: seems like a terrible way to scam money
Diablo-D3: this is why face value is supposed to be way below actual value
Diablo-D3: a 1 oz US eagle is like $25 face value
nubbins`: anyway, point being, i think these coins are great
nubbins`: and i don't forsee any problems with exchanging them as face value
truffles: what if crypton like element or whatever found on mars in next 30 years replaces both gold and silver
truffles: not a big deal for us, some of us wont make it that far i guess
nubbins`: you know that krypton is real, right?
Diablo-D3: its real, but its not what superman thought it was
ozbot: $75 14-Kt. Gold Coin - Superman™: The Early Years - Mintage: 2,000 (2013)
nubbins`: conversation just went full circle
nubbins`: this whole "coloured coin" kick the mint's on lately sucks
ozbot: Royal Canadian Mint Coloured Coins
Namworld: There's glow in the dark coins too
pankkake: I hope someone does My Little Pony coins
ozbot: 1 oz Fine Silver Coin - Canadian Maple Canopy (Spring) - Mintage 7500 (2013)
pankkake: it's the only one that didn't strike me as ugly yeah
nubbins`: anyway i have tenants moving in tomorrow, gotta clean up a bit
truffles: coin collecting seems like an expensive use of space
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smickles: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what RNG did you use for the new mpex key?
jurov: simckles, the RSA news is old and about proprietary product
smickles: jurov: i thought i was pointing out that the opensource stuff was fixed back in 2008, if he used the proprietary stuff it'd be no good
jurov: and we did talk with mp about secure random numbers generation recently, so he certainy hasn't forgotten
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smickles: ;;later tell mircea_popescu jurov tell me i'm being useless today
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ozbot: Plans to reinstate BTC-TC: Don't panic
Kleeck__: LOL@bitbet question for kslaugher interview.
pankkake: no, I'm missed the interview too
Kleeck__: Someone asked if they'd be willing to place a bitbet guarentee on their mining ship date. :)
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Kleeck__: Glad he's reading other people's questions.
Kleeck__: It was. This is the second replay.
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Kleeck__: He said no, in a round-about way. "There are too many other parties involved, but if we push back our ship date we'll compensate with more hashing power per late ship"
Kleeck__: Not sure if I'd rather have more hashing power later or half of my money back, ala Terrahash.
pankkake: Tupac didn't die, he went underground to write Bitcoin
thestringpuller: I think a bitcoin bank in detroit would be perfect, the feds wouldn't care
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mod6: small buttonwood meetup would be cool.
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jurov: why they won't care for derptroit?
dexX7: oh did i already miss the ken interview?
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dexX7: how did he sound? grimly? xD
deizel: heh, southern american accent, laid back tone (engineer) rather than over enthusiastic (sales, pr), sounded like he knew what he was talking about
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dexX7: actm is getting more and more solid imho. basically not much has changed, but from time to time i'm almost surprised how solid ken handles stuff
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ozbot: SecondMarket - The Reinvented Stock Market
dexX7: oh only a few days
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Namworld: I don't see it on bitcointalk.org
Namworld: ah, I see its in speculation, none in investment tho
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dexX7: "Your zenpad was delivered, albeit with some delay. I don't think it's fair to call us scammers. Could you please take down this report ? we would sincerely appreciate it"
dexX7: so ... a former glbse scammer is befriended with those who run labcoin?
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 142.04000, Best ask: 142.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.45999, Last trade: 142.49999, 24 hour volume: 13295.67031081, 24 hour low: 138.02021, 24 hour high: 143.00000, 24 hour vwap: 140.68919
Namworld: With a serious vehicle for instituational investors to put money in Bitcoins.
ozbot: Lessons Learned From the BDT Fiasco - Coding In My Sleep - A Bitcoin Blog
nubbins`: huh. regarding those $20 for $20 coins we were talking about earlier:
nubbins`: "(2.1) In the case of coins of a denomination greater than ten dollars, a payment referred to in subsection (1) may consist of not more than one coin, and the payment is a legal tender for no more than the value of a single coin of that denomination."
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nubbins`: im reading about paying for things with coins
dexX7: this guy deleted his friendship
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nubbins`: and apparently if the coin has a face value greater than $10, the other party can refuse to accept more than one coin
nubbins`: so i couldn't pay for a case of beer with a couple of those $20 coins
nubbins`: but the shopkeep could refuse me
pankkake: why those things have to be so complicated
nubbins`: there's different limits for each coin. they can refuse to accept more than 25 pennies
nubbins`: no doubt this came about because some asshole tried to buy a car with pennies
pankkake: well, many people tried to pay taxes in the most annoying ways
pankkake: in France a guy wrote a cheque on toilet paper
nubbins`: i paid my home insurance ($1200) with fives
nubbins`: they didn't accept credit cards! like, what the fuck?
nubbins`: the receptionist said "this is what they gave you?"
nubbins`: then i said "so why don't you guys take credit cards, anyway?"
pankkake: probably not the fault of the receptionist
nubbins`: but if it happens to her enough, maybe they'll change their policies
nubbins`: it's a small insurance company
nubbins`: so there's a legit chance that if she says "listen, this keeps happening because we don't take CCs", someone will listen
Namworld: Ah. Well still, better get the management annoyed directly.
nubbins`: but i mean, seriously. it's an insurance company -- they generally only deal with large payments
nubbins`: it's incredibly inconvenient to not be able to use credit
nubbins`: she couldn't even tell me where the nearest bank was!!
nubbins`: anyway, next year, i'll hopefully remember this fiasco, and switch providers
nubbins`: it's hard to insure houses in the downtown area here
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Diablo-D3: he refuses to answer a simple question
Diablo-D3: are there, or arent there, any good digital signature schemes that are computationally expensive
Apocalyptic: what's the point of having a computationally expensive signature scheme ?
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Apocalyptic: all the usefullness of signature schemes is to be able to check their validity quicky
Diablo-D3: lol hes now banned me from #p2pool
Diablo-D3: Apocalyptic: well, its either that, or lamport signatures
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Diablo-D3: yes, and now I think he may actually BE an NSA employee
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ozbot: #bitcoin-assets bash
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Namworld: kakobrekla, I PMed you earlier today
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kakobrekla: well i dont see the api, nothing interesting is happening, im not being bribed, and how do you even invest in that thing?
mod6: late lastnight we saw something amazing amazing amazing!
Namworld: I can bribe you with such phrases as "please" or "plz plz plz"
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mod6: ah, you must have capped it. sweet
kakobrekla: even if they would take pleases in teh grocery store theres still like 3 unanswered questions