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trinque: can, or trashed. I don't tend to put sensitive items on webservers.
lobbes: asciilifeform: main reason for not wanting to host it on usg box is mainly because logger is also running on there and a) don't want too many eggs in one basket and b) don't want too many things interfacing with same postgres database (since actionbot is on top of logbot which also logs every line, and I dunno if this will slow things down or what. I like the idea of segregating them in this sense)
asciilifeform: maybe i'm alone in this, but i don't hold against mod6 that he was breaking his back in a salt mine.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: try to get the machines out. errything else after. don't break yer back tho. << Three machines in one trip with wheels went well enough 4 should not be a problem. Without wheels, I am contemplating the logistics as we speak
diana_coman: asciilifeform: atm I don't have box ready for this (I wasn't actually prepared for pizarro death, what can I say) + I'd rather know a bit more about those to whom I'm sending boxes, dunno.
lobbes: Add in the feedback cycle, digging into mpwp mysql guts, new additions to spec tacked on (here I would link to various documented pieces on blog, if I had a working one) and I don't come anywhere close to 5-hours. It will be serving Trilema, and it is needed to be correct in one go; no do-overs. My reputation's on the line here. Spot of work my foot!
diana_coman: but yes otherwise and moreover, it's no diversity if I don't go with moldavians but I go with Bucharest; 0 diversity in that really
diana_coman: I got to the point where I'm firing them emails ~ can I order that or the other *without* your "account" that I utterly don't need; and similar.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 15:59:48 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942530 << i don't see a problem with it, provided it doesn't become a complicated game of not enough coin etc.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942530 << i don't see a problem with it, provided it doesn't become a complicated game of not enough coin etc.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, look, when discussion re "why don't you sell" is brought, you run under http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941047 ; but when discussion is brought to how "you were prepping this what to sell for 1yr+, of course something was bound to happen in that sorta interval", you aim to run under "what was i gonna do, something eventually did happen"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 11:16:43 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942135 << well, i don't particularly wanna ship these to cr ; i suppose we're uncovering a storage problem here ?
mp_en_viaje: i still don;t perceive the difference between above quited john d. and historical curtis y, or tucker m. or etc. this may be a failure of my differentiator, but w/e.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:09:01 maxim_mivo: I don't think that's possible.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942135 << well, i don't particularly wanna ship these to cr ; i suppose we're uncovering a storage problem here ?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: my younghands.club backups are fine too so I can confirm I don't need anything from the shared machine re younghands.club either.
mp_en_viaje: but i don't deem the people with no time as having a life. because wtf life is that, circumvectamur amore.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think so, nope.
maxim_mivo: I don't think that's possible.
maxim_mivo: Sorry, guys. I don't have time to read all your WoT things (no offense).
maxim_mivo: 2. We don't hire remote workers. Plus every our employee must speak english, russian and romanian. Basicaly every IT man here in Moldova speaks that languages. I assume your doesn't.
maxim_mivo: I don't any searches. Just waiting for questions.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you want to do a slow growth thing and try to recoup some Bitcoin, I don't see what is keeping you from finishing your second RK plant and finding it a lower cost basis/better value pipe eurocolo.
BingoBoingo: I don't in this moment feel as portable as I did in 2017 because now there's the Peruana. I'm rather fond of her, but she loves me.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't object, but does it do anything/need me to do anything /
mp_en_viaje: i don't understand what you;re saying.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: At this point I don't see why not.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941537 << I don't know about lifetime, but some sort of produtive, structured penance is in order. I do feel much less despondent after making two adult age males go pale.
mp_en_viaje: the former, i read something about maxint, something about flamethrower, then something about ~stalking some randos that don't even know you...
mp_en_viaje: well, i don't sleep with the womenz, for one thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The freezone office is door, behind a couple doors I don't have keys too
mp_en_viaje: so, you take job running isp, have some time there, do not spend that time to acquire the things someone running isp has and you do not. then later, you're doing whatever it is you're doing for pizarro, it's not clear to me (or, i suspect, to them), but you don't actually acquire ~any~ kind of skills involved.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, i tell you i don't comprehend this defective approach, as seen in "I don't know if I can continue to make camp in Uruguay on Qntra alone or in combination with the local economy of faltas. Maybe I breed rabbits" and elsewhere.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940879 << i honestly don't think specific derpitude in uruguay is the problem. sales is the problem, and has been, and i expect shall remain.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: DDoS was a thing before Cloudflare, but I don't recall random i.e. without explicit demand DDoS being a thing until Cloudflare came around.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: sadly for production server I don't think it's useful to change the IP; I suppose we are lucky in that it's now rather than after eulora release.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 19:25:34 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here, the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send the relevant .pcap files over please"
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941077 - I don't see it in either of the last 2 vpatches; fwiw I looked in the reader's code too: the tokenizer treats the ' as start of a quote and then fails for not having the end ' it expects
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here, the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send the relevant .pcap files over please"
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 15:38:00 mp_en_viaje: hey diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-search?q=i+don%27t+intend&chan=trilema
mp_en_viaje: hey diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-search?q=i+don%27t+intend&chan=trilema
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't know why you keep saying that. sales is neither an optional nor a coinditional part of business.
mp_en_viaje: i don't get wtf you're saying here.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i know you don't liek to read castles, but this thread b/w asciilifeform and diana_coman's heathen isp man is pertinent.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't believe the iron buildout was actually an asset for pizarro, business wise.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It would mean Antel provides the RJ45 for each box, each RJ45 billed seperately. This would increase the complexity of administration and billing, but I don't know materially different it could be from the current situation in practice.
diana_coman: yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with anything ie it's just another sort of spam.
BingoBoingo: If another lord wants to step up and try Vienna, Portugal, Minks, etc... I don't know that "Señor (Herr?) Rogier hopped on a plane to a strange land before" should necessarily block someone else from the opportunity.
billymg: no worries, i was keeping up with the logs during the whole episode. seems quite unfortunate that even the datacenter hosting piz suffers from http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940547 but i certainly don't put this on you
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:23:04 mp_en_viaje: atm i dunno i'd trust anyone from russia or recommend anyone move there. the one time this happened it blowed up in such a sickly manner, i absolutely don't want to spend the significant resources involved in dealing with the clean-up. as far as anyone knows, moscow's bogon-radioactive
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 04:49:08 mp_en_viaje: this is a judgment much akin to, "look, in your locale enel spa is the energy provider, monopoly by law, you're buying energy from them" "i'd have to look for my contract" "no, actually, you don't have to. i can tell you from ten thousand miles away, on this basis"
diana_coman: I don't see it; owning is the opposite of not owning; in as much as borrowing is not owning, there's the opposite; ducks don't enter into it
mp_en_viaje: atm i dunno i'd trust anyone from russia or recommend anyone move there. the one time this happened it blowed up in such a sickly manner, i absolutely don't want to spend the significant resources involved in dealing with the clean-up. as far as anyone knows, moscow's bogon-radioactive
mp_en_viaje: this is a judgment much akin to, "look, in your locale enel spa is the energy provider, monopoly by law, you're buying energy from them" "i'd have to look for my contract" "no, actually, you don't have to. i can tell you from ten thousand miles away, on this basis"
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940365 << i don't even recall now how uy was picked. must've been a lsit and some sorta process
asciilifeform: this was ( and continues, dulap still dead ) a maddeningly sovokesque experience, where we pay vendor for fish 'that's what they don't have at the fish counter' but short of borrowing mp_en_viaje's freighter and laying own fiber i can't presently think of a final solution to it
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-04 20:07:21 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, who is this upstream i don't get it ? are we not actually renting space from a dc ?
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, who is this upstream i don't get it ? are we not actually renting space from a dc ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939920 << i don't get it, what is the coincidence ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't see a simpler narrative for why diana_coman's bot went down too.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-04 08:03:01 mp_en_viaje: so if you don't know, ask ; i'll either give you the thing or else tell you why not, at which point ~you'll fucking know why not~. see ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 05:03:23 mp_en_viaje: so if you don't know, ask ; i'll either give you the thing or else tell you why not, at which point ~you'll fucking know why not~. see ?
mp_en_viaje: i don't mind so much, personally, but perhaps others harder to console.
mp_en_viaje: so if you don't know, ask ; i'll either give you the thing or else tell you why not, at which point ~you'll fucking know why not~. see ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 16:06:23 diana_coman: asciilifeform: why use timestamps rather than log lines number though? I don't get how is that better at all; ie give syncer "last known ok line", should drop anything with id > that for the chan; then import everything with id > that from the reference
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, I don't think it can safely be fully automatic or not at this stage at least.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: my point re misleading longest sequence was if new talk in between getting sequence from a and from b, causing b to be longest just because latest retrieved; anyway, I don't think it can be done a whole lot better at this level really.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: why use timestamps rather than log lines number though? I don't get how is that better at all; ie give syncer "last known ok line", should drop anything with id > that for the chan; then import everything with id > that from the reference
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 02:42:17 mp_en_viaje: took me a while to figure out wtf there's a spurious "bot" in there. honestly asciilifeform i don't think adding text after the name is acceptable. maybe a [B] prefix for the name ? ie instead of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907." do "[B]snsabot I am bot version 596907."
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 02:58:08 mp_en_viaje: took me a while to figure out wtf there's a spurious "bot" in there. honestly asciilifeform i don't think adding text after the name is acceptable. maybe a [B] prefix for the name ? ie instead of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907." do "[B]snsabot I am bot version 596907."
mp_en_viaje: took me a while to figure out wtf there's a spurious "bot" in there. honestly asciilifeform i don't think adding text after the name is acceptable. maybe a [B] prefix for the name ? ie instead of "snsabot bot I am bot version 596907." do "[B]snsabot I am bot version 596907."
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-02 14:05:26 mod6: asciilifeform: I don't see a reason to keep it up, because it isn't being used. Let's let mircea_popescu weigh in on this though. Anyway, I'm totally fine if you want to invoice the foundation for what you spent on it.
mod6: asciilifeform: I don't see a reason to keep it up, because it isn't being used. Let's let mircea_popescu weigh in on this though. Anyway, I'm totally fine if you want to invoice the foundation for what you spent on it.
mp_en_viaje: and a third of it has to be a nuclear reactor. i don't fucking want to have to operate a (marine!) nuclear reactor.
mp_en_viaje: to be fair my design is so early i don't even have anything definite worth the mention. so perhaps.
mp_en_viaje: these schloss things are more like overgrown bed&breakfast in practice, and i don't intend to run a motel.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-30#1939429 - you told it to me in pm once; I don't recall reading it somewhere else.
mod6: Feels pretty good so far to be free of that. I don't think it's sunk in quite yet, but it will. :]
mp_en_viaje: i recall there were excellent reasons they didn;t do that, but i don;t now recall what.
diana_coman: I don't quite think it's the right approach even, tbh
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I don't quite get what problem are you trying to solve with this tape knob?
mod6: Not much to even blog about at this point. I basically just showed up, handed in my laptop & sec badge. "I don't work here any more. kthxbye."
mp_en_viaje: "oh, any man's wrist will be stiff after emptying a desert eagle magazine" "dude, if you've emptied the magazine you're a war hero, wtf, you killed two platoons" "no you don't actually hit" "what ?" "you miss, see" "why the fuck are you shooting then ?!" "isn't that what you do ?" "yes dumbo, it's what i do. it's not what you do, get lost."
mp_en_viaje: and damn, now i can't find the joke in the log anymore ;/ "don't worry, itll fall off once it dries"
mp_en_viaje: there's the two liner above linked ; there's another one line in a discussion of another film. but i clearly remember taking the time to discuss this over paragraphs, i just don't remember where the fuck
mp_en_viaje: 2nd item i don't even know what to make of. seems someone literally poured some concrete, made a sort of post-wood outhouse. i dunno how it is even a house at all.
mp_en_viaje: so i don't expect uruguay market will ever find price. instead, the "properties" will just decay into the ground
mircea_popescu: or to put it another way : a logger confronts the dilemma if whether to sync with history or with other loggers. i don't believe there's need for a rule, it can stand as such.
mircea_popescu: not that i'm against sync-able loggers. but i don't believe all loggers MUST be thusly.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 00:13:24 lobbes: re: two or more mp-wp loggers agreeing with each other; I'm not sure they would ever need to agree with each other in terms of links... IF not indexing. In other words, each instance of a mp-wp logger and its output becomes indistinguishable from any other blog post on said blog. (in other words, if you don't care to sync, or don't care if "missing" lines, then not an issue)
lobbes: re: two or more mp-wp loggers agreeing with each other; I'm not sure they would ever need to agree with each other in terms of links... IF not indexing. In other words, each instance of a mp-wp logger and its output becomes indistinguishable from any other blog post on said blog. (in other words, if you don't care to sync, or don't care if "missing" lines, then not an issue)
diana_coman: for that matter, travel keys won't be able to self-voice but I don't see a real problem with that.
mircea_popescu: "mp, you can't negrate him, we can't sell to him if you do" "fuck. i don't wanna 0 it either, it'll disappear from the lists" "well..." "fuuuuck"
billymg: in casual conversations with my boss it seemed like remote work might be an option, and although i don't think of that as a long term goal it could be useful in fueling the initial settling
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:40:53 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 04:16:36 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?
diana_coman: uhm; I suppose I don't see this irrespective of results; fwiw, not even breast "proceeds irrespective of results" if you think that it adapts supply if nothing else
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: yes; what I don't see is junior high learning ~= baby level