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gabriel_laddel: http://build.funtoo.org/
gabriel_laddel: dina_corman: I don't have the disk space to download all of them, but if you could get all the funtoo stage3 tarballs too, would be great.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: noted.
gabriel_laddel: http://funtoo.neu.edu.cn/distfiles/
gabriel_laddel: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/gentoo/distfiles/
gabriel_laddel: http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/gentoo/distfiles/
gabriel_laddel: http://bbgentoo.ilb.ru/distfiles/
gabriel_laddel: $$ later tell dina_corman gentoo distfile backups ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: It does. I search the logs for clim and my handle ~daily
gabriel_laddel: and on that note, I'm off.
gabriel_laddel: even if this is just a list of .pdf files I can parse
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: essentially I would like all information available about all hardware vendors, neatly organized.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: you remember my asking after a hardware database?
gabriel_laddel: holy fuck ebay exists
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: my comp already reproduces on identical hardware!
gabriel_laddel: they'll steal my computers?
gabriel_laddel: how?
gabriel_laddel: !!google cap-lore.com "gabriel laddel"
gabriel_laddel: trinque: also can display arbitrary graphics
gabriel_laddel: trinque: afaik, solves all the problems with the old one (lack of multithreading, elisp is crap etc)
gabriel_laddel: trinque: climacs?
gabriel_laddel: are we?
gabriel_laddel: can't and doesn't happen. Never ever ever.
gabriel_laddel: nuh un, no way
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: "but you can't abstract over hardware"
gabriel_laddel: why even bother with gossipd?
gabriel_laddel: what, you want to design the loper device using punch cards?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: look, we can and do hack around and get things done in broken software everyday. If an environment exists in which one can WITH A SINGLE PROCEDURE CALL write the "world" out to a USB/CD/whatever it should be a plenty stable platform for whatever computations are required for new hardware.
gabriel_laddel: nothing was going on this weekend!
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: nope.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: the purpose of masamune is to provide funds for the republic (by selling them) and a development platform from which to build new hardware.
gabriel_laddel: phf: did you see the screenshot of the CLIM gui I wrote around portage?
gabriel_laddel: phf: heh
gabriel_laddel: phf: by selling them and paying other people to do it
gabriel_laddel: ^
gabriel_laddel: or the mirrors or or or
gabriel_laddel: trinque: it does not interact with google
gabriel_laddel: trinque: my masamune builds are all from the old masamune.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: that is correct. Hence enforcing a SINGLE hardware platform from which to generalize.
gabriel_laddel: when I run into the friend with another masamune machine to we can now have a networked CLIM party
gabriel_laddel: dood whatever, I'm running this example between two masamune machines and adding it to the masamune manual.
gabriel_laddel: self-documenting hardware/software is the ~ bare minimum ~ of civilized computing.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: the only way to learn that is by aptly named brute force.
gabriel_laddel: how am I to know what documentation is or is not valid on various UNIXen, bsds etc
gabriel_laddel: for what platform?
gabriel_laddel: err, mircea_popescu about what?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: about what?
gabriel_laddel: Thank you. A tsmr~ ghetto with its own CLIM-web internet is now possible.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: aha! it worked
gabriel_laddel: Thank you. That is both clear and helpful.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: the scary thing is that it worked.
gabriel_laddel: phf: something as simple as "network some computers together with ethernet and observe the sexpr from one draw some stuff on another" should work 100% of the time and be clearly documented.
gabriel_laddel: phf: either I cannot read, or the man pages are inadequate.
gabriel_laddel: while we're here - does anyone know of a script that downloads the whole of the gentoo documentation?
gabriel_laddel: ty
gabriel_laddel: locally, in a manual.
gabriel_laddel: trinque: this is where ALL of my time gets wasted. Trying to figure out what fking flag to send some unix BS that should be clearly documented for THE MACHINE I AM WORKING ON.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: equery m netcat outputs what for you?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: see?
gabriel_laddel: Also, oddly enough, ping returns "Network is unreachable" after sending 20ish messages, on both ends.
gabriel_laddel: are there any decent irc channels for this sort of thing aside from ##networking?
gabriel_laddel: substitute localhost, same thing
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: with the example you've provided I send the "foo" string and nothing occurs on the other side. If I remove the "-u" option from nc, (UNKNOWN) [10.0.0.20] 8002 (?) : Connection refused
gabriel_laddel: I'm up to date on the logs, and respectfully disagree.
gabriel_laddel: This should have been taken care of years ago =
gabriel_laddel: It is a revolt against G-d and all that is good and true that there does not exist a platform, even on UNIX that one can buy for lisp development.
gabriel_laddel: Lisp coders are refugees because they act like little girls.
gabriel_laddel: That's nonsense.
gabriel_laddel: trinque: idk what basics I'd be studying?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I can easily connect one lisp to another over wifi, but want to force it over an ethernet cable
gabriel_laddel: just a minute, have rebooted both machines.
gabriel_laddel: also wtf now my machines cannot ping one another..
gabriel_laddel: I'm perfectly happy to use a lisp socket, but if I can't do it via netcat, I don't think it'll work via lisp
gabriel_laddel: (does not have to be netcat, happy to use anything so long as I can eventually migrate it into my lisp process)
gabriel_laddel: If anyone knows the netcat command that would do this, I'm all ears.
gabriel_laddel: Am currently trying to send a string from A to B (must be over the ethernet cable) so as to make networked CLIM.
gabriel_laddel: I have two machines connected by an ethernet cable that can ping one another after I setup ip addresses on them via "ip ad add 10.0.0.10/24 dev eth0" and "ip ad add 10.0.0.20/24".
gabriel_laddel: Blotter paper with actual doses on it should be perforated so the area takes up about 1/8th of your thumbnail. Anything larger is probably going to put you in a psyc ward.
gabriel_laddel: Actual LSD will glow purple under a blacklight, unlike all other compounds people attempt to use in its place. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1543759 << Ty pdf. Kids, if you are going to do drugs, be smart about it. People will try and pass off all sorts of nonsense as LSD, and some of those compounds are unsafe(?). ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: Does anyone know of / has created a database of hardware offerings from various vendors? ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: and a .pdf
gabriel_laddel: Fucking Yegge and everyone else who was involved with CL, even tangentially did a huge disservice to the language. He (and rich hicky) complains and complains about issues that can be solved with a few macros.
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536499 ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: O right, that's why I dropped in here the other day.
gabriel_laddel: iirc it was pretty clear that mod6 needs to read loper-os, but what do I know.
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-06#1535380 < also, glad to see someone reads the logs. These new n00bs don't seem to be aware of ~any past discussions. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: I'm translating the spec from HTML to CLIM. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: Soylent "food bars" are much tastier though.
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1536791 < they're not bad. ~A power bar you buy in bulk. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: Hey there. On a much better connection today.
gabriel_laddel: alice_: what is your ethnicity / where are you from?
gabriel_laddel: The tardstalks who put the "commercial support" section on the McCLIM website at the very end of a page for developers (lol: https://common-lisp.net/project/mcclim/involve) will probably take several months to organize. They don't english very well, and someone who does will have quite the advantage.
gabriel_laddel: If anyone wants to be WAY ahead of the curve, now would be the time to update your websites stating that you offer CLIM support / build CLIM programs aor start a marketing campaign.
gabriel_laddel: This leaves 38 forms to be implemented, many of which are simply sitting in the (crappy) franz implementation
gabriel_laddel: jackdaniel just submitted a working hack around the last showstopping McCLIM bug.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-26#1530024 < I'm flattered, thank you. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-28#1530583 < I have nfi what this is supposed to mean? ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: $s 1-5 months
gabriel_laddel: blood transfusion from young mice to old is supposed to help the latter iirc