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mircea_popescu:
phf well yes but using v as an ideal object vs using v as applied to the world's most patently deranged pile of cathair and wet noodles.
mircea_popescu:
phf nothing in the physical situation as you describe it indicates that. nevertheless, the implicit meaning in how the topo sort owrks is that you need a to a' for b to b' to be meaningful. this could be because one is .h and the other .cpp, fopr instance, or becauise other stuff is coming later or for any other reason
mircea_popescu:
phf in the example you gave the implication is you NEED z.
punkman:
phf, my "shortest path" algo is to recursively find all antecedents of the patch I want to press. it's useful.
adlai:
phf: comint (and slime's maximal comfort zone) is for interacting with inferior processes that emacs spawn
BingoBoingo: Who ever wants to qntra if since alf passed on it can submit.
phf?
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 14:39:04; mircea_popescu:
phf i dunno man, i've been trying to unravel in my head what the issue is/was, can't say i've got very far. the only thing i can say is please, insist.
mircea_popescu:
phf i dunno man, i've been trying to unravel in my head what the issue is/was, can't say i've got very far. the only thing i can say is please, insist.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 02:26:40; mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383446 << wait, explain this to me ? << the idea is that our makefiles, or whatever build scripts will utilize V to build inside of the rotor (a linux thing) - the source must be compatable with that.
phf's openbsd scripts are not compatible with this.
ben_vulpes:
phf: i have a hunch that it was my boost compiles that were failing.
mircea_popescu:
phf you seriously considering maintaining a bsd rotor thing ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well apparently
phf was half-trying but no hats.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383446 << wait, explain this to me ? << the idea is that our makefiles, or whatever build scripts will utilize V to build inside of the rotor (a linux thing) - the source must be compatable with that.
phf's openbsd scripts are not compatible with this.
☝︎☟︎ mod6:
phf: your patch(s) did work for me on openbsd. i think, once we have all of trinque's makefiles ready to go with the new (forthcoming) version of V, you and I should work together to get a new vpatch of your openbsd changes submitted.
ben_vulpes: didn't
phf do something with timestamps?
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 05:32:55;
phf: like where you carpet munch?
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 05:15:35;
phf: that's how they do in portland
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 04:26:44;
phf: i know this guy, a master carpenter, he builds wooden structures at burning man (infrastructural stuff, not "art"). he's been clean for 30 years now, but it's a constant aa-ing for him. "an acoholic can never be free", etc. i guess it's working for him, but it's hell of depressing mindset
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 04:10:37;
phf: sick gains
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 03:57:35;
phf: so rms always had a flexible living arrangements, but at some points he had a tenured office at mit, where he would sleep on the couch. there are multiple accounts of that couch being shared by young ladies. perhaps stories are apocryphal and should echo >> jargon.txt
ben_vulpes:
phf: they hear "higher power" and lose their shit.
mircea_popescu:
phf you know there's an entire classification of the ... idle members of society. hobo travels, will work. tramp won't work, but travels. bum doesn't travel. etc.
mircea_popescu:
phf i was one of the very few ro writers that never migrated.
mircea_popescu:
phf> complete with a mandatory opening panorama shot of a merc 280sel pulling up to a mansion << somebody's done his blutjunge verfuhrerinnen & assorted swiss cinematography studies huh.
ben_vulpes: but that's just because elisp completely lacks namespacing facilities,
phf, there couldn't possibly be any sour-grapes malice at work!
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 21:18:20;
phf: (what the hell happened to linux ecosystem? 5-th tutorial on "openvpn on linux" is basically "make sure you have file a, file b and file c. now click open in open-gnome-vpn-assistant..")
ben_vulpes:
phf: and in those cities the cars park for 4+ hours and the trucks doing actual work double park next to them
mircea_popescu:
phf cars drive the first case of power laws observed in day to day life. people manage to generate traffic in 1k inhabitant townlets.
ben_vulpes:
phf: there aren't really "car people" in town. the closest thing is the various merchant groups owners all live in the suburbs and operate a variant of the quiznos/arbys/starbucks franchise, and so want 'moar parking!', because that's all they understand.
ben_vulpes:
phf: it's not "low car concentration" it's high people concentration. the concentration of cars in an area is nigh-meaningless given that a car takes up > 8 m^2 of space for typically one user, and this imposes a hard upper bound on a) the number of cars in a space and b) the number of people you can cram into a space.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 00:52:44;
phf: asciilifeform: in your pgp version are you getting rid of the whole keyring concept? i assume the switch is to "a folder full of ascs"?
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 19:05:14;
phf: irc messages go over a loose knit federated system that's entirely outside of your control. even if you do dcc it's plaintext on the wire
gabriel_laddel:
phf: yes, debugging CLIM + zen at the same time is going to suck, but debugging CLIM + xlib sucks, and I have not yet compared the two to find out which is worse.
gabriel_laddel:
phf: "because can still attach c program outputs" + "zen doesn't support most of the modern x11 extensions, that you might want for running something like firefox". We have CLIM irc, a listener (repl), an editor, dired + other. I don't particularly want to run c programs. You'd just end up reinventing CLIM anyways after you notice that "gee, it would be nice to have draggable crossbars in my GUI and geometry".
mircea_popescu:
phf well if you have this tag-and-glyph duality you're wide fucking open to the issue.
mircea_popescu:
phf which is why i said, it's contrary to everything he was saying.
mircea_popescu:
phf and if idiots make functions going ___function where in the ordered list do i look for them ?
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 18:45:40;
phf: i've spent most of my college years learning math by sometimes translating problem into sexp and running it inside lisp, to get a hang of the numeric or combinatoric behavior of the problem. there were parts of the problem that were easier to grok in sexp and then there were parts that i eventually wrote an approximation of latex formula reader for. i don't really have a clear idea of where the boundry is thoug
mircea_popescu:
phf to that the obvious counter is that sure, but before you've reached a point where you can actually speak of it... it's premature to speak of it ?
mircea_popescu: <
phf> presumably mp disagrees with iverson's "notation as a tool of thought" paper in principle << i do not. i do however disagree with the theory that tool is substitute sufficient.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell
phf i'm still getting segfaults with your openbsd patch. care to look at bitcoind.core ?
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 09:38:41; gabriel_laddel:
phf: I've browsed through it, but didn't find what I was looking for. Perhaps if I state my problem someone will know what I need. The goal is to 'fold' the whole notion of X client / server directly into CL function calls. I would like details of how *exactly* X talks to the hardware (Cee sources, yeah) and a large, obvious table as to what all the error codes / X requests are.
gabriel_laddel:
phf: I've browsed through it, but didn't find what I was looking for. Perhaps if I state my problem someone will know what I need. The goal is to 'fold' the whole notion of X client / server directly into CL function calls. I would like details of how *exactly* X talks to the hardware (Cee sources, yeah) and a large, obvious table as to what all the error codes / X requests are.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 08-01-2016 19:18:49; mircea_popescu:
phf or their gfs.
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2016 22:05:07; mircea_popescu:
phf it's a funny outcrop of "this is everyting".
thestringpuller:
phf: OMG. hit the nail on the head. those are some of the interesting camps tho
mircea_popescu:
phf you mean used by random idiot ? ever been to one of their competitive bbq-offs things ?
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2016 04:19:45;
phf: ben_vulpes: you call that thing like void foo(args) { IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK(foo(args)); ...}, static makes nLoops shared, so the logic is, you set it to some random value between 1 and 21 and then recurse down that many times, "randomizing" the stack
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 20:05:06;
phf: it's just impressions. i've been looking at a lot of high traction common lisp code (top quicklisp packages) and there's a lot of senseless turd polishing in the past few years. broken interfaces for the sake of "cleanliness", half baked code, needless macros, dependency hell etc. and then you look at the code and it's the same set of aggressive, google employed queergenders.
assbot: Logged on 04-01-2016 23:08:28;
phf: in "social media" the mechanism of mediation is entirely controlled by platform owners. nothing even remotely similar could be produced on top of facebook, because it would get snuffed in its infancy, with undesirable behaviors eliminated through technical or policy changes.