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asciilifeform: i propose now a new and improved tax for usg: the -shitlicense-.
decimation: yeah as far as I know, except for extremely expensive bezzlar rockets usg owns, there is very little that can be done to intercept ballistic missile once it is past its initial acceleration phase
decimation: note that no one is actually employed plowing anymore, except by usg, and those plows are automated machines
decimation: such a grand strategy usg undertook, to import all of its enemies worldwide and make them citizens so we could all love them with socialism
decimation: asciilifeform: us chechens probably aren't a fan of usg either
decimation: BingoBoingo: the fear being that the Bosnians didn't get the memo that they supposed to do whatever usg or the local thugs demand?
decimation: if the 'oath keepers' demostrate that peace can be kept without swat/usg/fed/bureaucracy, 'people' might get the wrong idea
asciilifeform: presently it's a useful propaganda tool - usg picks pliant juries reliably, gives extra spray paint coating of 'legitimacy' to everything the courts do.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> difficulty drops << expect others, as usg torches miner farm after farm. << USG dealing with CHina and Russia, won't seize but torch. Owner torches.
asciilifeform: difficulty drops << expect others, as usg torches miner farm after farm.
decimation: maybe usg pays him 20
decimation: why would usg care if you were the intended recipient or a random victim?
decimation: who knows if this guy is legit, but if what he is wrote is true, USG apparently views a group of actual people acting of their own free will to be a much greater threat than rampaging rivers of meat
mircea_popescu: i think that's an artefact of approach. in this sense, my pieces loling at usg feminists are properly "Feminist studies"
decimation: and asciilifeform is right, the usg folks who 'compute' have no problem running poettering shit if it 'gets the job done'
adlai: after reading a bit more about the scamosphere, in my mind, "usg" now gets pronounced "usagi"
kakobrekla: nsa check, bitcoin foundation check, ... whats next, usg?
mircea_popescu: generally, idiots revel in offering an idiotarian version of mainstream concepts. like, the usg right ? ALSO OFFERS INSURANCE.
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.
decimation: actually I was thinking while gasing up my car today... if you add up the fact that usg is funded to a big degree by printed dollars, and that now opec has decided to flood the market with oil to kill off drilling in north america, you realize that you have 'oil printing' vs. 'dollar printing'
asciilifeform: 'oath keepers' << if it isn't a honeypot, it (from usg's perspective) ought to be.
decimation: well, the aging hippies who run usg like to see a few protest-arrests on a resume
decimation: yeah, that's their exact problem, if they were to take any document-able action it would be counted as treason and usg would slam down
mircea_popescu: like the stuff discussed above re usg agency redhat, fuycking up linux. EXACTLY the stiuation of the giant ruining a chair. ☟︎☟︎
decimation: In my opinion, usg's crimes are not 'active' in the sense that they scheme with redhat for evil - usg's crime is that if failed to use the resources and human talent at its disposal to advance the art of computing at all
mircea_popescu: jurov: this is the undoing of C.. due to its memory unsafety they must decide to either bloat the kernel or suffer the overhead <<< out of the 10`000 billion lines of commentary written on the "usg is making up money and giving it to redhat to implement its policies ; whereby control economy is now called "do-ocracy" topic the past year or so, yours is the first one to actually be fucking sensible.
mircea_popescu: decimation the usg bois are getting butchered.
decimation: mats_cd03: unfortunately it seems like the 'secret police' is often trotted as a solution to many of usg's problems
mats_cd03: 02:48:14asciilifeform:usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << yep, i can confirm this second hand -- i know a few L.A. guardsmen that engaged in firefights with looters
decimation: Translation: in exchange for political support, manipulation of the masses, etc, we expect to be paid in usg-authorized indentured servants
adlai: usg buys S.MPOE to hedge against bond failure
ben_vulpes: who knew the usg'd bought so much MPOE :p
mircea_popescu: so ? isn't this how the usg works already ?
decimation: BingoBoingo: apparently usg isn't paying off the masses in bezzlars sufficiently
mircea_popescu: basically this is like saying "for as long as the usg prints money , this company can capture about 1.2-1.5% of it"
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 -1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.
decimation: note that these 'payments' are mostly not direct transfers (checks from the treasury). They are mostly things like implicit guarantee to banks that usg will 'force solvency', health 'insurance' (free health care), and 'free' roads.
decimation: ;;later tell ben_vulpes re: explain "usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes" << Well, I was thinking of the very straightforward sense in which the majority of humans on us territory receive more dollars from usg than give to usg.
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/11/nsa-ttp-2014.pdf << usg loves software patents; sells licenses!
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell decimation please for to explain to retards like me "asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue"
ben_vulpes: <decimation> asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue << wat
mircea_popescu: "all the work usg agents are saving you ? it's work you still have to do. they're just persuasively and pervasively lying about it, while it collects interest undone."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << not supposedly. actual fact.
mircea_popescu: decimation: how does usg so utterly dominate the masses? <<< you can't be serious ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg ships afghani opium directly into ru. <<< opium wars 2.0 ?
decimation: the only armored aircraft I know usg flies is the A-10, and they are trying to get rid of them
asciilifeform: usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina'
decimation: asciilifeform: I tend to agree. Did you see that USG banned flying over st. louis? For your safety.
decimation: asciilifeform: wrt police need to know < I think there is some credibility to Mr. Y's thinking that urban police 'bridge the gap' between crazy usg policy and reality
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue
asciilifeform: why a tax revolt hasn't happened yet: usg has old, reliable, well-oiled mechanisms for dealing with folks who didn't pay.
decimation: how does usg so utterly dominate the masses?
BingoBoingo under the impression USG uses drug money to fund all of its porcelain as opposed to golden toilets
asciilifeform: usg ships afghani opium directly into ru.
BingoBoingo suspects .ru darknet markets survive because USG figures russian drugs are russia's problem.
BingoBoingo: This surprised, I guess the small number of anons who might not be from USG's vegetable garden
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One of the tor devs drawing their USG funded paychecks was an operator of one of the "Anonymous" movement twitter accounts
mats_cd03: 16:06:20 <+asciilifeform> in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked. << link?
asciilifeform: in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked.
decimation: asciilifeform: I wish usg took more of interest in raising quality rather than maximal extraction
asciilifeform: to usg, you are a resource. a head of cattle. who lets a cow go ?
decimation: if you want to 'build slowly' usg will be interested in your form 8938
decimation: asciilifeform: usg radio chatter, ready for you to listen: http://usa-satcom.com/operation-deep-freeze-2014/
asciilifeform: or in submarine, at least while usg undersea stationary sonar arrays function.
asciilifeform: so, it may actually be a non-usg zone until it is repaired.
decimation: reality must intercede somewhere into usg's neat pronoucements
decimation: I believe usg military doesn't even require one chinup from females - just 'bent arm hang'
decimation: in the us, the usg takes that kind of thing very seriously
asciilifeform: only reason usg still bothers with juries, is that they can generally be relied on to play ball, and this state of affairs is reasonably simple to maintain.
jurov: just because it was so idiotic it crashed without inflictiong so much damage as usg did/does
asciilifeform: jurov: and realize that the blowback from present-day usg idiocy will make lenin et. al. look reasonable and gentle. see earlier thread re: isis.
ben_vulpes: "requires you to get health coverage by the end of the open enrollment period on February 15. If you don’t, this year you’ll have to pay a penalty of $325 per adult or 2 percent of your household income -- whichever is higher." << death of self insurance in the usg
asciilifeform: usg/nato to ru: 'stop running your nose into my fist!'
asciilifeform: roach extermination will not stop (unless usg somehow rids itself of mr p)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's put it this way - the arab lands burn, and we know the arsonist - usg. who can say that arsonist is not still in control?
mircea_popescu: the usg is as related to this as the fly on the radiator related to the car crash.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far usg is keeping these folks intensely interested in clitori butterfly collections and not the least bit in higher mathematics, without apparently breaking a sweat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iran - 'tried shit.' i would need serious evidence of pig flight before believing that fundamentalist clerical revolutions are anything other than usg 'yi yi zhi yi' methods.
asciilifeform: undata: for 'everyday engineering' definition of 'get away' - sure. who, exactly, lives in usa that usg cannot kill 'with impunity' ?
mircea_popescu: and the usg wins anwyay, for the exact reason spam works : those five people were tied up for the five minutes they took to write and the however many it took them to consider all the angles.
mircea_popescu: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/595 << meanwhile mitre (which is very much a usg-thing) is coming out with a "you know they don't really need to work because they're special kids".
decimation: this idea could also explain why debt-funding (usg bank style) is ruinous compared to capital-funding in the long run
asciilifeform: usg cycle goes approximately: 1) produce anal orifice (entirely plausibly-deniable bugpharms like microshit, with pedigrees going back into the sands of time, and impossibility of attribution or meaningful study - easy)
asciilifeform: at any rate, the reason there is not a pandaemonium of attempted republikflucht from usa, and corresponding whack-a-mole game by usg, is very simple -
decimation: probably many of these 'black boxes' were developed by 'startups' funded by usg tax dollars through universities
kakobrekla: aha usg stoped making plutonium 238 in 1988, they just ordered it from russia
decimation: asciilifeform: re: medium << usg had a point, now encryption is 'available'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-09-26/?msg=22344014&page=1 << fascinating smoke&mirrors job. these jokers do their best to make 'remote attestation' sound appealing, and obscure the actual raison d'etre of the tech (boobytrap in your own silicon against you, owner, in any and all cases) by spinning it as 'forbidden by usg'
asciilifeform: #bitcoin-wizards << lol! usg has own #b-a now! 'with hookers, and blackjack!'
asciilifeform: jihad - yes; jihad (TM) - usg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jihad long predates the invention of america, let alone the creation of the usg.
asciilifeform: jihadis >> http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2005/kermit-visits-doctor.jpg << creatures of usg
decimation: asciilifeform: http://countersignal.tumblr.com/post/102817028423/i-keep-telling-people-to-look-at-where-things-come << I didn't realize that usg/nato were responsible for 'cultural marxism'
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.
assbot: The USG wasted another hundred million dollars it previously stole from average, hard working US citizens. Nobody cares. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY84AU )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski btw, next time someone goes on the "marketing Bitcoin" kick, you can always use http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/ : "Get lost and don’t come back until you can either think or do something useful. Contrary to what you might have self-aggrandizingly imagined, we don’t want you. Yo
mircea_popescu: Bids that are contingent on financing terms of any kind will not be considered.<< funny what the usg thinks of its own banking industry anyway :D
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2014 04:35:56; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow, but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from" << usg (and the 'enlightenment') in one sentence.