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decimation: although note that usg is fine with 18 year-olds voting and dying in the military
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the size of that cohesive group is merely a function of the resources wasted on it. << But consider what USG spends on keeping NBP alive to only have Maybe 200 new Black Panthers vs. what Femen spends on Maybe 200 topless agitators.
ascii_field: (attempting to be something other than slavishly transparent to usg tendrils)
lobbes: Why India though? Aren't they essentially an arm of usg?
decimation: asciilifeform: things are already heading that way. there's a 'Schelling point' that enlarges every year around the "USG sucks" idea
asciilifeform: it seems almost laughably obvious that usg ought to hate and fear cheap private aviation
asciilifeform: trinque: notice how usg succeeded in nationalizing, de-facto, all of airspace in usa
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1128736 << -everybody- says this, but same argument could apply to usg-izing just about anything ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1128674 << not suddenly. once the usg got involved. it has the shidas touch. ☝︎
decimation: usg event wants to sit upon hobbyists who fly r/c aircraft
decimation: actually I think aircraft could become much more 'personal', but usg has sat upon them
williamdunne: 23:50:20 - mircea_popescu: if you're serious about this, go to a country that's not part of the usg, run a proper exchange. no kyc/bs.
mircea_popescu: if you're serious about this, go to a country that's not part of the usg, run a proper exchange. no kyc/bs.
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 17:41:02; ascii_field: at any rate, the reason to hold off creaming your pants on this occasion, is that 1) it's yet another von neumann turd 2) enjoy trading usg boobytraps for ru variant
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128111 << ancient drm wankatron where lusers are somehow coerced into 'proving' that they run virginal winblows which will obey usg dictat ☝︎☟︎
ascii_field: usg photol0l: http://cryptome.org/sugar-grove-bunker.jpg
ascii_field: at any rate, the reason to hold off creaming your pants on this occasion, is that 1) it's yet another von neumann turd 2) enjoy trading usg boobytraps for ru variant ☟︎
pete_dushenski: for all the bitching about usg chip diddling in this place
mircea_popescu: thatr's exactly what it is. the whole thing that made usg work makes us work. it'll make us great long after it buried it.
mircea_popescu: you know, where the usg actually gained the ability to make bad graphs
mircea_popescu: davout the amount of herd-herding that the usg has been putting into this is so incredibly useful because a) it really can't do anything but! b) it really does expose the tools.
jurov: usg bad,too but more fuel
asciilifeform: british, or su, or usg
asciilifeform: and i dare say, usg-izing.
asciilifeform: in -every- case, the sc4mz0rz who are willing to use 'a little bit' of usg toolchain, overwhelmingly win on cost and speed
asciilifeform: nor are their fabs (last i checked) toolchain-clean in terms of 100% usg-free.
asciilifeform: as far as usg is concerned, this kind of design -is- proper
decimation: http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=18757 < baltimore burns, and 40 miles away usg implements plans to instruct hobbyist r/c aircraft pilots
pete_dushenski: ^re: usgavin's retreat.
pete_dushenski: mike_c very kind of you to suggest me. lemme take a look at ol' usgavin's latest hatchet job and see if there's a qntra article lying in wait.
mircea_popescu: kinda why bitcoin is so important. kinda why the gavincoin disarray was so "nobody could have predicted" for the usg side.
asciilifeform: which is likewise turdalicious usg tentacle.
asciilifeform: (i am deliberately not counting exotica made by other usg muppets, e.g., the (former) ibm's old 'power' chips, etc.)
asciilifeform: wtf is with the 'ninja' preoccupation of usg muppets
asciilifeform: imho it is worth looking into, because 1) without question they are under the usg glass dome and 2) serious, otherwise educated folks may very well be in the chumpset
mircea_popescu: who exactly in the usg do you think is or was served by wiping most of their army ?
lobbes: danielpbarron: you think it may have been an 'inside job' by usg? I have heard that pov from others, too
mircea_popescu: usg delivering "keys" to its own people etc.
mircea_popescu: yo usg : BLOCK.INCREASE.IS.NOT.HAPPENING.THIS.YEAR
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 21:02:32; ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not.
ascii_field: eltsin died, ru spat out the usg cock, and is to bleed for this, yes
ascii_field: and that this is perfectly pedestrian fact, regardless of whether you like usg or putin or kim jong un or hitler
ascii_field: and now fellate usg.
ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: whether groupon (usg mafia) gets it or ru or cn mafia gets it... still gotten.
mircea_popescu: exes are the real threat. they sunk a lot more ~profitable~ businesses than the various usg.agency constructs.
mircea_popescu: this ex stole just the domain names. ps - if you're into "building an online business" - forget the idiots trying to push "compliance" because hey, they live off the usg dole so gotta pretend like the usg matters to even be able to get up in the morning.
asciilifeform: the kind that sets fire to grocer because his usg-sponsored lunch skipped a day?
asciilifeform: this is one reason why the uprisings are permitted (hell, organized) by usg
mircea_popescu: of usg's hand picking, no less.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> why would you, or anyone stand for the usg ?! << i can think of one reason - if alternative is surrender to orcs
mircea_popescu: why would you, or anyone stand for the usg ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what does it mean to 'drive out statal enforcement' in a place that is run 100% on usg largesse ?
decimation: I'm not sure about such a coordinated plot, but it certainly is the case that urban police departments are independent power centers upon which usg frowns
asciilifeform: usg-4, as we can see, was nearly in full bloom already.
mircea_popescu: myeah. so teh usg has all these minor muppets it keeps trying to use in that manner. get the majors out so they can finally play
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121371 << that's in no way related to usg. they have hanging dope peddlers forever, with a brief interruption while britain bullied them into stopping it because it had no other trade goods available. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 20:06:04; ascii_field: williamdunne et al: 'micronations' are interesting right up until you try actually using them for something (e.g., resisting usg dictate) and it gets bulldozed. so, approximately as interesting as a pistol that is guaranteed to explode in your hand.
ascii_field: thestringpuller: the usg muppets are in high gear, yes
ascii_field: trinque: this map only counts dollar-denominated payouts from usg to states
trinque: scientology's tax exempt status is a goddamn hilarious defeat of usg
ascii_field: if anything, they are more eager to enforce usg dictate than usg proper
ascii_field: letting it be known that you will wreck usg is not 'aggressive' except to usg muppet theatre
ascii_field: williamdunne et al: 'micronations' are interesting right up until you try actually using them for something (e.g., resisting usg dictate) and it gets bulldozed. so, approximately as interesting as a pistol that is guaranteed to explode in your hand. ☟︎
decimation: then they realized that they occupied a massive vacuum left by sun and old purveyors of unix to usg
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1120368 << rhel was not BORN a usg agency. it first made money, on a totally different business model, before folding in. this celia approach to life doesn't work as a way to START. it's a way to end. ☝︎
felipelalli: http://i.imgur.com/oLki4kF.jpg << USGavin blocktrain
asciilifeform: (naturally, usg will pocket the bulk of this difference, but such is the nature of muppet war)
asciilifeform: there will be myriad parasitic waterfalls like 'uber', i expect, which feed upon the difference between what it -actually- costs to do something like driving cab - at butugychag subsistence levels with zero regard for the meatbag's future - and what usgtronic tentacles which masquerade as american firms presently charge.
asciilifeform: <trinque> end-cap on the thread is that this trend of Ubering seems to be about trying to dissolve responsibility << this is part of it, but the major profit comes from de-institutializing - de-usgizing - the cabbies and hotels
williamdunne: Everything the USG does is funny
ascii_field: mats: the kind of schizo that seems to live and breathe solely to discredit actual investigation into usg shenanigans
asciilifeform: we will know when usg falls, when this magical barrier disappears.
asciilifeform: for machines that matter - usg jet fighters, etc. - not only pb but enviro-whiner 'atrocities' like halon are permitted.
ascii_field: ebay works well for getting 'golden toilets' for their actual market price vs the usg tentacular price
ascii_field: existing ones are 'decent' from perspective of usg et al.
decimation: the corruption in selling physical goods to usg is nowhere near the size of the corruption of 'selling services'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you ever seen a usg contractor bill ?
ascii_field: rather than usg-style boiling of the oceans
ascii_field: and based on the choice of target, usg -wants- idiots to use 'goodcrypto' on account of it being derp
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube << the only reason why they so easily sell this flavour of snake oil is that virtualizator gets you 'cpu cycles by the pound' and buckets of little arm boxes - don't (why not? because we never actually invented parallel processing or, especially, process migration. apparently. at least, unix world did not.)
mircea_popescu: usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube.
mircea_popescu: because you know, usg keeps a master key, or so the rumour goes.
asciilifeform: but back to the machines, because i consider this a mega-educational moment - there are countless instruments where you can pay, e.g., 10k on 'ebay' but you can also pay 800k if you want new, with support contract, for the mandatory softs to not be considered pirated, etc., etc., (most of this is strictly usg)
asciilifeform: these things deprecate on the 'usg pays maxint, scrap dealer pays 1%' formula.
mircea_popescu: could be punishment for the usg twerps. "you now have to program on this"
Pierre_Rochard: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111248 < my former employer, was a great firm pre-1930, now just an extension of USG ☝︎
decimation: "Mobile payments are a natural extension of the digital lifestyle, while protection against digital theft becomes an imperative for regulatory agencies around the world." < note usg mission creep
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 16:12:23; mats: i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor
mats: i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor ☟︎
mircea_popescu: well at that time you couldn't tell what happened. for all you know, nano was usg-kidnapped.
mircea_popescu: it's the usg playbook : give more people the illusion of participation, so you can take more control of the underlying processes.
mircea_popescu: there's no value "collectively". there seems to be, currently, because the usg / ag etc are propping them up on borrowed money.
ben_vulpes: usg can break it like they broke gpg, but that broken thing will not and cannot be bitcoin
assbot: USGavin’s headless body moves on, #bitcoin-assets moves up. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO4TMc )
pete_dushenski: scoop shtayim : http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/22/usgavins-headless-body-moves-on-bitcoin-assets-moves-up/
mircea_popescu: i'm putting that in here since we're doing all sorts of trivia shit like "who's paying usgavin to shit in bitcoin this week" and so on.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, yeah, people were derping about hoiw forcing usg to assume its assets is "bad" and the foundation pretense was somehow "better"
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> vessenes fundation burned to the ground: http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html << merely usg being forced to assume its minions.
jurov: i don't see how these are better (with exception of the usg deficit maybe)