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a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 09:51 Framedragger: why is Vexual banned - http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522329 - why no bard. you know tor irc channels used to have this skruffy character who connected from some small shanty town in deep russia and spoke broken english. thing is, he found and reported on a ton of deeper bugs, i mean like delicate race conditions that don't normally appear and shit. he claimed to have used win98 and complained all the time that tor broke on win98
mircea_popescu: so i don't actually need to know what it was archived as.
Framedragger: i don't know. (asciilifeform?) but look, in http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2607263/how-precise-is-the-internal-clock-of-a-modern-pc there are hints of madness and inconsistency. "returns clock count" doesn't seem to be it.
Framedragger: why is Vexual banned - http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522329 - why no bard. you know tor irc channels used to have this skruffy character who connected from some small shanty town in deep russia and spoke broken english. thing is, he found and reported on a ton of deeper bugs, i mean like delicate race conditions that don't normally appear and shit. he claimed to have used win98 and complained all the time that tor broke on win98 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the part where you can spec things that don't actually fit in head. for instance, i can specify "a good fuck", or "an acceptably behaved slut" or "a boring housewife"
asciilifeform: at any rate, i stand by my assertion that a synchronous (if you don't know what this means, look it up) carrier is unsuitable for gossipd.
Framedragger: http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119079 s/DZ/SD/ i don't know why i wrote DZ, very unclear freudian slip
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't think the big-endianness is even in the protocol is it?
asciilifeform: at least i don't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, more like "i don't care about what you think enough to not rob the place ; but god damned i care what you may say about my genitalia"
mircea_popescu: of course, now i don't like his idiotic position on women, but this is now on the exact opposite side of before.
pete_dushenski: phf: hehe i don't have a bot atm. though by xmas i'll be in better shape to take that on.
trinque: dunno how or if they police it. I don't go.
mircea_popescu: poor people don't get to not care i'm rich.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#761 << yeah well tell you what, when i go to http://trilema.com/2016/lxs-ninxs/ i ALSO don't go to eat cooked rats and live with nine other people in a bathroom. i go to enjoy the cheap local cunt while preserving my luxurious lifestyle.
phf: asciilifeform: well, i don't know the details of "white ocean" camp in question, but it usually involved souped up rv's, a staff of paid employees to do your cooking for you, often direct flight from wherever to black rock city airport, etc.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don't think anyone seriously contemplates importing the aferations of random soi dissant sovereigns.
Framedragger: yawell, don't forget, routing is not a trivial problem. this is only the very beginning, i think. an occasion nonetheless though, surely!
mircea_popescu: trinque i know i brought this on myself, but an unsubscribe will be useful so i don't get everything on gossipd spec twice lol
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: gotcha. i felt shy because all these other smart people don't comment on the article, damn their restraint
mircea_popescu: yes, but now if i want to say "i suppose if one wants channels he can just prefix his lines with #trilema or whatever, but this is deliberately left to implementation" i don't have where to.
jurov: what's interesting, i don't see anything possibly related here: https://github.com/MariaDB/server/commits/10.1
ben_vulpes: one of the other things i had scribbled down is that asciilifeform wants a crypto-hard wall against "teh ddos", and mircea_popescu appears satisfied that uninformed idiots who can't find keys are enough of a pill against the ddos. i don't see how this is an improvement on the ip address, which the average netizen is entirely uncognizant of.
a111: 723 results for "i don't know", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=i%20don't%20know
phf: !#s i don't know
pete_dushenski: if this isn't pure carcoin 2.0 except with "underlying autonomous technology" instead of altcoin 2.0 "underlying blockchain technology", i don't know what is. top kek.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-11 00:47 mircea_popescu: "It is important to note that it is possible that instead of finding the magic ID, you instead find a bunch of zero bytes. In my own copy of the blockchain I have encountered a case when parsing through a .dat file, where the header is missing. Instead there is a large block of zero bytes and then the blockchain picks up again later. I don't know why/how this occurs."
mircea_popescu: "It is important to note that it is possible that instead of finding the magic ID, you instead find a bunch of zero bytes. In my own copy of the blockchain I have encountered a case when parsing through a .dat file, where the header is missing. Instead there is a large block of zero bytes and then the blockchain picks up again later. I don't know why/how this occurs." ☟︎
mod6: i don't have time to dig it up. but.. i might be mis-remembering
phf: asciilifeform: well, if you look at the seals folder you'll noticed that your sigs for the two patches are not there either, nor do i have them in my backup. since i remember meticulously going over mailing list and collecting vpatches and sigs, then correlating them to what mod6 had, then ... etc. etc. i suspect that there's some reason for why they are missing but i don't remember what it is. i suspect that it has something to do with regrinds t
asciilifeform: i don't do ritualistic epidemiology.
asciilifeform: i also do not care what the other one licked if i actually grasp subj. e.g., i don't give a fuck that it produced ada.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-10 03:03 mircea_popescu: it's a wonder actually, that alf's personal antigens of 1.(the usg is in all things - in his personal flavour of this) + 2.(if you lick my lunch i will starve today) don't completely preclude any action whatsoever.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538962 << the way this knot is cut is that there are 2 usg, the one that delivers my mail every couplea weeks to the house across the street, and the other one. and i don't give a flying fuck what the dumb one licked. ☝︎
thestringpuller: although most CC tx's go through first data i don't thin they process them all
thestringpuller: there's a reason I don't pay for my groceries in pennies...
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder actually, that alf's personal antigens of 1.(the usg is in all things - in his personal flavour of this) + 2.(if you lick my lunch i will starve today) don't completely preclude any action whatsoever. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sure ; but i don't think trinque was proposing the purpose of bitcoin is micropayments.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-10 02:41 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can you explain your problem with micropayments any more articulately than "i don't understand this" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can you explain your problem with micropayments any more articulately than "i don't understand this" ? ☟︎
mod6: well, i don't wanna speak for ben_vulpes, but iirc he's read most of them if not all; maybe just didn't get around to signing for lack of time because of baby, and running company.
phf: asciilifeform: i don't have any vulpes sigs either..
mod6: i don't know for sure. maybe "hand full of blackcats" or something. small firecrackers.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: tho am not sure if it's necessarily bad, to leak incremental nonces. i mean, i know you don't want to leak one single useful bit to da enemy; i don't know if it's a practical constraint, even if it is laudible.
Framedragger: actually, nm. if you don't want to leak incremental info of this kind, i guess it does become more difficult
mod6: i don't want to disagree with what I just said here: <+mod6> a lot of new questions and discussions will arise once someone starts to prototype gossipd out.
mircea_popescu: that i don't intend to sign anything.
Framedragger: then the argument does admittedly slide a little: yes okay, this is great that it can't be DoS'd that easily when the time comes; and yet it still has to parse multiple packets before it determines that hey, i don't know this fingerprint.
mircea_popescu: certainly it is not contemplated here thatg anyone would be forced to run v to get gossipd. heck, i don't even believe such "forcing" would be in principle possible.
mircea_popescu: you don't live in emacs i take it ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't buy into this "people good but evil govenrment corrupts". as near as i can see, "people suck and government does the best it can, as their product."
trinque: I don't know what they think this does.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/Uow3O << mega-lol: 'These air pod headphone things aren't visible enough to signal to men that I don't want them to talk to me'
mircea_popescu: "but mp, if you don't want ground ammo just don't keep crates of ammo in your kitchen" "o ya ? how about i don't keep a grinder."
Framedragger: asciilifeform: "Everything pertaining to Automake was nuked" - so nice. i used to doubt (or maybe i still do - in itself a healthy habit, perhaps) whether i didn't *get* something fundamental in modern s/w development. (maybe i still don't, of course). "shitloads of build targets and convoluted build chain? maybe there's no way more elegant? i must be a truly stupid person."
Framedragger: well fwiw i'm not overusing it. i don't subscribe to the "resolve cosmetic conflicts by doing more redundant work" thing, either;and i don't do it
mircea_popescu is slowly turning into an ancient dragon of the "i hate your kind ; i just don't hate you personally. yet." persuasion.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean laddel, i mean the other one.
Framedragger: i don't see why this necessarily yields some kind of conceptual moral failure or whatever
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. i imagine in typical style of the poor peasant girl, they tell themselves the reason they don't get to go to the seaside is because they're better than that.
alice_: (not judging, i don't mind)
alice_: i don't mind, just saying ;)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I finally acquired a pair of needlenose pliers that don't seem to suck
thestringpuller: I don't understand it, cause bluetooth traditionally sucks for audio fidelity
trinque: Framedragger: ftr I don't subscribe to the "bot checks to make sure it doesn't resend lines" party
mircea_popescu: i have slaves who also don't ; so has the welfare state. this doesn't makethem "richer than x". they are the 0 of poor.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: don't disagree with your characterization. but i don't think the "entirely and unmitigatedly wrong" is objectively / necessarily the case. mining konspiracy, i don't know, mircea. but at this point i'm too out of the loop for the "i" to be mean anything here.
Framedragger: my frustration with kako is that he doesn't think it's worth the time to write up a coherent narrative from his point of view. i'm sure it'd be useful to have it. maybe it's because it's impossible to have one in that case; maybe not; i for one don't fucking know
Framedragger: ‏‎punkman:flimflams: "oops flushed the orderbook again", "oops mispaid dividends again", "HELLO I AM THE CEO OF BITCOIN, HERE IS THE BITCOIN EXAM, oh what do you mean btc addresses don't keep a balance?" "it's not socialized losses, it's btc cartelisation research" "you were being an asshole so I banned your mpex account"
alice_: i don't know what a longfp is
alice_: i don't do christianity
BingoBoingo: <alice_> e.g. ML is a sharp, crystalline beauty, mostly useless for my direct purpose but v inspiring, 'cuz it's got several neat patterns that i don't see in most popular environments << "v inspiring" is a term of art here
alice_: i don't actually
alice_: i don't mind pressing s and d at the same time, myself
alice_: i don't use α frequently
alice_: trinque: i don't like your face
alice_: i can do Normal Startup Coding Style if i want to, i just hate it so i don't when i don't have to
alice_: e.g. ML is a sharp, crystalline beauty, mostly useless for my direct purpose but v inspiring, 'cuz it's got several neat patterns that i don't see in most popular environments
alice_: i'm alice. i haven't interacted with this channel before. but i don't imagine that's the answer you're hoping for ☟︎
alice_: i don't think as easy without shit like x/2 and list[:-1]
mircea_popescu: you know this "you are very welcome daddy" think keeps reminding me of this ... i don't recall, maybe a succession of sms captions ? where a clearly competent streetwalker (of the sort that lives on street most days, checks into motel now and again) was assuring some random dude that she doesn't mind his friend beating her up.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-06#1535099 << (probably on some superficial level) this reminded me of a film i recently watched at airport: "elena" (2011, zvyagintsev). it's a pretty good film (nothing extraordinary), i think, and i recommend it. i don't have a particular intuition but i suspect that elena's relationship to her husband may pique mircea_popescu's interest, and he'd have words about elena ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't grasp the need for a global 'humanity filter.' working wotronics implies that folks will assortively peer by degree of muppetry, and this imho suffices.
asciilifeform: (for the most part, i don't. except that one time there was this odd parrot-like... etc)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "i want to send penny wtihout bank" "bitcoin" "oh, without blockchaion, maybe little bank" "use little bank" "no, all these things have the disadvantage that they don't include my 3yo self in a central manner sufficiently"
pete_dushenski: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:45/to:45#45 << why wouldn't you still be welcome ? i dunno if i've been skimming the logs too lightly but i don't recall a part where mp said that having bots/services go down/be replaced meant out-and-out excommunication. afaik mike_c, for example, is still welcome.
phf: right, second one, don't know what first one is. maybe it's metasploit doing fuzzing? i took two representative examples though
Framedragger: i need to take it off because i want to finish reading the main bot's source - don't trust it yet. this will be completed real soon now. (tm)
BingoBoingo: <mtrgt> First of all, you're rude. Second, my time is valuable. I'm here because I thought there's a business proposal, and I don't talk business in public chatrooms.<< AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
mtrgt: First of all, you're rude. Second, my time is valuable. I'm here because I thought there's a business proposal, and I don't talk business in public chatrooms.
mircea_popescu: no, i know. you're here because i ordered a survey of the ... hm... let's say politely bitcent space, and a coupla things popped up. satoshigalaxy, which got an add, and pokemonsomething, i don't recall, which apparently you bought
mircea_popescu: you figure people don't read ? more people read that than this. or what, impatient ? i answer within minutes, wut.
mircea_popescu: "i don't want your money ; and certainly don't NEED it" "but mp! GOVERNMENT COMPLIANCE COSTS!!!!" "Fuck you."
mircea_popescu: in the absence of economic drivers, there will either be a political driver or no movement. which leaves us with the simple explanation. i don't gotta prove that every single individual woman thought of dick up her ass every time she spent too much money on cosmetics.
shinohai: I don't give camho fucking lessons, if one cannot figure the best way to do that on your own then I imagine there is little hope left in the world for you.
BingoBoingo: Nah, I don't speak robot.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Listen you, i wont say donk, but spam accusin with no evidence, before accusing someone of using bugs better check with that player why he has so much points, and does he even know why he has so much points. I am sick tired of jelious players who don't know how to play game and everyone else is than using bugs and i don't know what else. SO, Please, what is your igm NICK? I gave you mine. I have 3 words for you - L2P
asciilifeform: 'Since the game is full of bug, it does not mean i don't work hard to get to the first position. My mines is working full power and bring more than 60000 resource per hour'
mircea_popescu: gets better, "i don't know how to fix that 500 error so will close the game"
mircea_popescu: grep for "Ok guys, I found a general failure on the defense system of the game and don't know how to fix that making the game unable to play at this point."