tmsr - Log 2016-09-04

BingoBoingo: Not http://qntra.net/2016/09/musk-rocket-goes-boom-destroying-zuckerberg-satellite/#comment-69086 ???

BingoBoingo: AHA FOUND! http://qntra.net/2016/09/california-plans-anti-cattle-legislation/#comment-69142

shinohai: But mircea_popescu, science has brought us steaks made of recycled shit!

BingoBoingo: AHA, Moo-shrooms!

mircea_popescu: what did it anyway ? not like it had any links

BingoBoingo: Unsure. Probably the " : " convention. That or wordpress is a piece of shit.

mircea_popescu: okies

BingoBoingo: Could still be cookie confused over the time you linked a tumblr.com link and successfully posted numerous comments afterwards.

mircea_popescu: heh

BingoBoingo: Wordpress is not a deterministic system.

BingoBoingo: ;;later tell covertress http://qntra.net/2016/09/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-4-tmr/ << Oh a second mention

gribble: The operation succeeded.

deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/09/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-4-tmr/ << Qntra - Not Quite News Roundup Xtend 4 (TM)(R)

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 here's something to blow your mind : noob kid in eulora dug up an ord sr claim of mine ; got 65k sr. he's dragging it to town, 1k at a time. he's calculated it'll take him ~4 hours. << that's an awesome jackpot though!

mod6: yeah might take some time to get it into storage, but same thing if you got 65 tons of quarters from a slot machine.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/08bf32a1-9a94-439c-bf1e-186dbbbe9258/?raw=true

gribble: The operation succeeded.

ben_vulpes: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/0cdd986e-6ee0-4067-923c-5a4ca2f0c52b/?raw=true << if anyone on mp-wp wants 403s in their http webserver logs when login failures occur

ben_vulpes: no original work there, just a consolidation of knowledge floating around. mostly for those allergic to php and wwwtronium

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/2016/the-v-manual-genesis/#comment-118795 << that you or did someone scrape your site ?

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/ << Trilema - There is no difference between "the Byzantine generals problem" and "the prisoner dilemma"

mircea_popescu: incidentally, is this a novel observation ? or anyone know of preexisting literature ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo <p><a href="http://Sorry for your loss">Sorry for your loss.</a></p> ?

BingoBoingo: ty fxd

mircea_popescu: -spb- [Global Notice] I'll be shutting services down in around ten minutes, for (hopefully) around ten minutes. If you'd like to grab ops in your channels just in case, now is the time to do it. Apologies for the inconvenience! << which opens the eternal dilemma - "is this going to be permanent and i'ma regret not opping ?"

mircea_popescu: in other lulz : mysql admits default value = now for data type timestamp ; but not for data type datetime.

mircea_popescu: oh and of course, ONLY ONE OF THESE per table. because reasons.

shinohai: mircea_popescu: check out this lulzy scam attempt < 2 hrs after bidding: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ce8ba9a4-19d6-4efe-8428-f6782103e136/

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-04#1534131 << http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118805 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-09-04 12:01 mircea_popescu: incidentally, is this a novel observation ? or anyone know of preexisting literature ?

mircea_popescu: shinohai apparently this is a thing yea

shinohai: Even went through all of the trouble to make green bb code to look trusted

shinohai: lol

mircea_popescu: weird that they don;t just ban the name

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118807 (queued)

asciilifeform: ( http://www.drdobbs.com/article/print?articleId=206904396&siteSectionName=cpp redirects to the spamolade version , vs the 'printable' clean one, when refer header isn't equal to the spamolade page. very frustrating , and workaround would be good addition imho to archive.is )

asciilifeform: http://marknelson.us/2007/07/23/byzantine << different intro, for n00bz

mircea_popescu: you're seriously linking me to a derpy mfa statement of the problem ? what is this!

asciilifeform: well i could link to the original lamport

asciilifeform: but it doesn't exist other than as pdf.

asciilifeform: (which is lulzy because it is a, what, 1980 paper, pre-dates pdf)

mircea_popescu: aha.

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118809 << anyway.

mircea_popescu: decruft, put on site i guess.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/byz/byz.html << 3111111117 w4r3z

mircea_popescu: ima alter your link.

asciilifeform: you can cache whole thing trivially, it's just a buncha jpg.

mircea_popescu: no i mean, i replaced the drdobbs w/e that is

asciilifeform: aite.

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118811 << thing has 0 to do with socialists, communists, fascists, americans, the great zimbabwe, etc. it is wholly about hard limits on gluing ~reliable machine from unreliable components.

mircea_popescu: why not just say so there!

mircea_popescu: you figure people don't read ? more people read that than this. or what, impatient ? i answer within minutes, wut.

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118813 << moar!111

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-august-2016-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), August 2016 Statement

pete_dushenski: man alive i thought getting older was supposed to suck. but a day after 'hcore spin class' followed by drinking like a fish at a wedding with way too many lawyers and i feel like a million bucks. maybe even two!

pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-03#1533864 << so don't have sex on the carpet ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-09-03 01:19 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160903/from:114/to:114#114 << the downside being that hair protects them from rub burns

pete_dushenski catches up on trilema debate, can only muster http://trilema.com/2016/there-is-no-difference-between-the-byzantine-generals-problem-and-the-prisoner-dilemma/#comment-118825

pete_dushenski: ;;seen phf

gribble: phf was last seen in #trilema 1 week, 2 days, 0 hours, 39 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <phf> or perhaps digitalocean is just shit

pete_dushenski: guess the move from btcbase to mkj logs is all but complete eh

pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/Ehxy9 << airstrip two publicly admitting that it's being outgunned, outmatched, outsmarted, and outmanoeuvred by slanty eyes.

pete_dushenski: started with http://qntra.net/2016/06/china-solidifies-presence-in-airstrip-twos-media/ in a way, or perhaps ended thusly. sorta hard to figure out where the circle ends and where it begins.

pete_dushenski: speaking of qntra and corn, there's nothing sweeter than taber corn this time of year. slather on a little butter and salt and omfg do the angels sing.

diana_coman: $key Nivir

pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/USDOL/status/771461587924246528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw << usdol brings the infographic simplicity the minwage debate needed. 'almost all the other presidents raised it so obummer should too! he even promised in 2013!'

pete_dushenski: now they can say the debate was had, obv.

shinohai: $up mtrgt

deedbot: mtrgt voiced for 30 minutes.

shinohai waves to pete_dushenski o/

mtrgt: What is this? Got a PM on bitcointalk from someone

shinohai: And you are mtrgt ?

mtrgt: mexicantarget, owner of faucetgame.com, gamefaucet.com, blockfaucet.com, catbitcoin.com, cryptohydrant.com and many more websites. And you are?

shinohai: shinohai

shinohai: I sent you invite on behalf of mircea_popescu

mtrgt: So, what's this chan about? Why were I invited?

shinohai: I think he has some sort of business proposal for you. If you have time to wait I am sure he will be back soon.

mtrgt: yeah, sure, I'll be around

shinohai: Great, thanks for stopping in.

shinohai: ;;ticker --market all

gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 603.41, vol: 5190.05491586 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 607.568, vol: 7084.96221 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 615.82, vol: 7018.27248017 | GDAX BTCUSD last: 614.67, vol: 5156.81935352 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 613.081744, vol: 167294.84610000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 611.43, vol: 1210.84433398 | Gemini BTCUSD last: 610.56, vol: 1229.77079309 | OKCoin BTCUSD last: 614.856, vol: (1 more message)

shinohai: ;;more

gribble: 976378.319 | Volume-weighted last average: 614.50446903

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: my mp-wp is leaking pingbacks

ben_vulpes: i expect to migrate completely monday

pete_dushenski waves back at shinohai on the way out for jog. bbl

mircea_popescu: aaand in other lulz, the city of buenos aires is selling ~500 acres of public property for gentrification projects ; including the all time favourite spot for the local "trabajadores" to "luchando", in front of the casa rosada ☟︎

shinohai: $up mtrgt

deedbot: mtrgt voiced for 30 minutes.

mircea_popescu: mtrgt ello. you the mexican guy ?

mtrgt: Hello, micrea. Yes, that's me

mircea_popescu: ah. so what can you do and what are you looking for ?

mtrgt: I'm not even sure why I'm here to be honest. I was invited here by a PM on bitcointalk..

mircea_popescu: no, i know. you're here because i ordered a survey of the ... hm... let's say politely bitcent space, and a coupla things popped up. satoshigalaxy, which got an add, and pokemonsomething, i don't recall, which apparently you bought

mircea_popescu: so i asked shinohai who's one of the few republican folk with a tardstalk account to send you a pm.

mtrgt: Let's move to PMs :)

mircea_popescu: mno, can't really do that. what, sikrits ?

mtrgt: First of all, you're rude. Second, my time is valuable. I'm here because I thought there's a business proposal, and I don't talk business in public chatrooms.

mircea_popescu: ah ok. well then i guess that settles that. thanks for dropping by in any case.

mtrgt: Do you have a proposal or shall I stop wasting my time?

mtrgt: Have a good day

mircea_popescu likes it when things turn out to be simple.

shinohai: xD

shinohai: Not much entropy in that space.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl, https://mellowads.com/networkspace/20632723704E ; but that's not half of it : the "mellowads" thing just pulled a runner. so you'd think he has a lot bigger problems than trying to serve the agenda of the empire.

mircea_popescu: yet, there he stands, igualidad por todos y etc.

mircea_popescu: i fear there's a lot of rudeness awaiting in the future of teh trabajadores del mundo ; unbeknownst to them of course and "nobody could have predict"-able.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aaanswer't.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160904/from:93/to:93#93 << an interesting battle is occuring now in argentina. the chinese are going after the unions. it's a no contest sort of thing, bulldog has found nest of mice in the field ; but im curious how long it'll take them.

shinohai: $up Nivir

deedbot: Nivir voiced for 30 minutes.

shinohai: now try it Nivir

Nivir: == Cannot send to channel

Nivir: $register 4A770EFC84943B04C4001A1D7A788522C8FBE0DA ☟︎

deedbot: 4A770EFC84943B04C4001A1D7A788522C8FBE0DA registered as Nivir.

mircea_popescu: $key Nivir

deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/8221b681-64bd-4d65-b258-52c02108d3ad/

mircea_popescu finds it peculiar that everyone makes the tiniest keys possible.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: answr'd^2.

asciilifeform: ^3.

thestringpuller: shinohai missed out on D*C meetup!

shinohai: I was afraid I might be eaten by fat furries or something thestringpuller

mircea_popescu: but isn't that a ... warm, fuzzy feeling ?