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diana_coman: then that's what I read there too that they were accused of that, yes; I don't know about the accusation as such though
a111: Logged on 2017-04-29 00:03 phf: vaguely related, all these papers that cite subj. i'm sure all these people have a copy in their private collection (the one they referenced when writing!!1), that they don't share out of copyright considerations and the respect for great scientist
mircea_popescu: the whole "don't fuck up or i'll beat you" mechanism exists ~specifically because~ the whole array doesn;t fit in my (or anyone's) head.
phf: vaguely related, all these papers that cite subj. i'm sure all these people have a copy in their private collection (the one they referenced when writing!!1), that they don't share out of copyright considerations and the respect for great scientist ☟︎
asciilifeform: what i don't yet have is a fixed-time modular exponentiator.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: they were already using a scheme which was supposed to protect it, but broke the spec, and implemented poorly. i don't remember but it's probably fixable without migrating to snakeoil or whatever framework
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i don't think the discussion about say gossipd station keys vs 'main key' was necessarily finished? i realise that it ain't pretty
Framedragger: i don't have a super-plausible scenario. i'm saying such scenario is possible; scheme used by tox can 'minimise damage' (i realise that it's a funny word when describing 'key stolen'); it doesn't, hence that complaint on shithub.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no disagreement. i honestly don't know re framework, i do think they just abused a term (which isn't a great signal)
Framedragger: here i have a problem because i don't think noise is necessarily bad; or that e.g. signal protocol is necessarily bad (yes names are barf'y)
trinque: I can help ya make it eat more large objects (don't mind the archivng) but eventually it's going to need to either deplete the deed author's wallet account for $amountOfBitsServed, or something along those lines
phf: asciilifeform: if i have procedure foo(x in; y out), and i'm calling it with foo(a, a); is it up to procedure to ensure that y is not clobbered before x is used, or is it more that you don't call with a same variable in in and out?
phf: Framedragger: we're trying to say the same thing, but i don't think it's quite there yet
phf: i don't know anything about his netbsd work. i know him exclusively via scheme/lisp world
mircea_popescu: this "we don't have a log" hurr is becoming the #1 dunning-kruger symptom. they dun have one and dun know why they'd miss it, just like i wouldn't havce known in 2012.
phf: i suspect that no vocal nonwot bought FUCKGOATS. it's either inwot, or else lurkers, that otherwise don't have any kind of presence. won't start participating with a review (even though that's probably a reason way to put self on radar)
asciilifeform: there were a number of folx whom i don't know, who bought. but none yet wrote in.
phf: i don't think it's masochism, it's very much in the knuthlamportdijkstra tradition of things, but yeah, typically you would ask cpu with asm if there was an overflow
mircea_popescu: the discussion went something like : "i am affraid though the name may put people off, how fixated are you" "i don't specifically care" "oh here's this website i made" "dude, why the fuck are you making websites, go talk to people".
mircea_popescu: i don't so much care whether the goldman sachs attempt worked or didn't work. i very much care that juju worship be socially unacceptable.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen, I just don't know. Mr. Popescu has it, we were lucky. And it feels like such a shitty, actually, horrible way to have to feel about such a damn tragedy.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i've ever seen a jurisdiction where oncology beds weren't short. ever.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not saying there is ; i am saying i don't care for either method of profiling he discusses for this usecase.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, either approach discussed is ridiculous. i don't need valgrind to emulate a processor and then guess how long things' take ; i don't want gprof's sampling either. just awk the codebase to add a printf after each instruction spitting out time and recompile. that's it.
mircea_popescu: "i read a book i like twice, but books i don't like i don't read at all!11"
mats: asciilifeform: wot analysis and identifying weirdness that pgp will accept but ordinarily silently discard some aspect (wrappers i've looked at don't use verbose flag during import) , ie, a subkey binding like the hpa key
asciilifeform: i don't have a rigorous proof. ( though -- would much like to. )
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i am deliberately being snarky. please don't spend cpu cycles decoding this remark
Framedragger: so to construct a counterargument, i'd have to dig into what particular 'novel' stuff monerolink is claiming, and what particular vulns were discussed by monero project prior to this stuff. i can't be bothered, though - just don't care about monero that much - does that mean that i now have to default to "all shit is stolen from #t!"
Framedragger: i don't know, are you saying that ideas from #t in regards to what, ringCT vulnerabilities? - have been taken?
Framedragger: re. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-15#1644022 -- i don't really see where the plagiarism is. honest. the title ("collider")? the content (research had been done by monero project itself some time ago; *plenty* of discussion of RingCT outside #t (unless you define "discussion outside #t is not discussion", in which case you are right..tautologically))? ☝︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hah! well, i don't know any colloquial / actually local words for this other than the (generic boring), you know, "jam".
shinohai: If I don't haz to go to class, then I need not know what class is :D
shinohai: http://archive.is/I1CqK <<< Barry Shillbert: Buy mah shitcoin picks of the month so I can make use of all that Bitcoin ya'll don't need.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 20:44 mircea_popescu: davout i don't get it, what'd you ask around for ? people in the wot who you know but we somehow don't ?
trinque: firearm discharge depends on acreage iirc, but I don't think anybody would arrest you for killing a fucking squirrel around here.
mircea_popescu: davout i don't get it, what'd you ask around for ? people in the wot who you know but we somehow don't ? ☟︎
davout: i'll ask around if people in my local meatwot have some experience with local DCs, don't think they'd bite
mircea_popescu: and in general don't get into fucking arguments with me about my numbers being off when i buy these weekly and you do yearly if at all.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i've heard you before and i hear you now. i just don't have much hope for extant internet. unreliable-low-bandwidth shortwave relay net almost seems like a longer term strategy here, no?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know for a hard fact, but there was that ukr.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how this is any kind of problem.
davout: i don't think it does matter that much, there's usually two pilots because there's more buttons
davout: i don't think it makes any difference from a safety pov
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean "cultural pockets" as in, people from chicago talk funny. i mean isolated cultural pockets as in, the jefferson-hamilton debate of 1700 is still live and kicking in 2000, argued in the sense of dumb rehashing by the same people in different costumes.
asciilifeform: incidentally this was the very substance of , iirc, nixon's argument to somebody re why he ought to bow. 'you don't have access to the mega-seekritz, how can you know that i am scum'
Framedragger: i don't know, i just see an engineer who did engineer work and contributions before and after gender transition; and a person who got caught into politics/issues of genderstuff after involving self in genderstuff. "meh" is my reaction.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i disagree. in their mind, it is completely consistent to do activism as they are 'suppressed', etc.; so i don't see how that would necessarily follow
a111: Logged on 2017-04-19 12:39 Framedragger: is there a more convenient way of organising and/or sending pgpgrams to irc folx? i have http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iCXI2/?raw=true which is ~fine. (it'll complain about unsigned key if target is such, and gpg will ask y/n there. add `--trust-model always` to gpg command if you don't like this and like to live dangerously)
Framedragger: is there a more convenient way of organising and/or sending pgpgrams to irc folx? i have http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iCXI2/?raw=true which is ~fine. (it'll complain about unsigned key if target is such, and gpg will ask y/n there. add `--trust-model always` to gpg command if you don't like this and like to live dangerously) ☟︎
mod6: I don't see a "stall time".
mircea_popescu: i know. and i don't see why they would.
mircea_popescu: i don't follow ?
davout: then again i don't visit it erryday
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/foIIo/?raw=true ; I don't recall the original amount, and I don't know that I ever paid you for them anyway. I think even then it was to be a gift. I did pay nubbins, and he never sent them, and was supposed to refund payment, but I don't think that ever came either
asciilifeform: 'The decision is not only economical. I don't want the "friction" of trying to achieve high-quality production of collector item data CDs twice a year, in 2017. 6.0 was a high-quality CD release like previous ones, but don't want to expend the effort of producing and testing to make sure 6.1, 6.2 etc are up to that standard. It is better to call it quits on a high note.'
mircea_popescu: if i water MY tree with beer one day and with piss another, i still don't want to hear what it thinks on the topic.
asciilifeform: 'I don't know what happened to Trump. Some muse he may be drugged and we would never know it and it makes sense. The world watched this man for two years to election day. And after Jan 20th, we watched him proceed immediately to walk his talk. Then... in like 24hrs... a full 180. If not drugs and mind control, there is always the secret grassy knoll footage of Kennedy's head being blown off to help Trump "get the message."'
asciilifeform: i don't know of a traditional name for his historical process, but imho it deserves one.
mircea_popescu: i don't even mean "if they were brilliant" or anything.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone imagines natostan works
mircea_popescu: i don't think it worked on anyone but illiterate peasants, that trick.
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter i don't recall you being much of a "nation of ukr" either.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, don't ask me, there's a reason i don't try to run a geostate.
mats: no updates re: esp8266, don't have time for it but i'll cough up the coin if someone wants to try a bulk purchase and play with one
BingoBoingo: I don't see topical diclofenac on that list!
mod6: So I collected 1.2Gb worth of data from FG. Which for the Advanced test I don't think would be a problem... about to do the `ent` & `dieharder` tests.
diana_coman: no or don't recall it; I being apparently an exception to that thing, I'm still trying to digest it
ben_vulpes: and this is why i don't play eulora
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes why squeeze the girls, i don't get it ?
mircea_popescu: phf from his 5x comment i gathered it's one of those cheaper joints where they don't make money out of table service and charge per the bj
a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 03:17 phf: my solutions to problems like that don't usually involve "bring in a 40mb package". i'd write a top level handler, that shows a modal x11 based repl/restart machinery. sort of poor man's genera
mircea_popescu: i suppose the rotguts they drink don't suffer or something
mircea_popescu: i'm sure there's right now all sorts of ~in their own mind~ important smart useful whatever folk. they're not in the wot, they don't exist, and this inexistence of theirs WILL COUNT AGAINST THEM
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-14#1643576 << and let me guess, i'm supposed to expose this incredibly rare and expensive resource for the benefit of the redditard peons, who don't want to pay for it but DO want to make random claims because hey, gotta make a claim to exist and research of any description is way above their pay grade ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: i dunno if this is obvious or not, we don't have multi-man keys of any sort at s.nsa
trinque: I don't think that's an honest interpretation
mod6: I don't think it needs to be announced otherwise. Just my way of tribute for my folks.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know of any us-made electronic balance
mod6: i don't have that notion. just saying, that this one didn't abide.
asciilifeform: but again i don't have a working set of box+proggy. only box and manuals.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-12 21:58 danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-12#1642660 << i don't use mouthwash, brush and floss once a day (with regular non vibrating brush, and i reuse the floss untill it splits apart or breaks) -- hadn't been to the dentist in over 8 years; went in last year and they tell me my teeth are in great shape considering, although i did have to get some cavities fixed (mostly in wisdom teeth which is expected. and yes i still have my wisdom teeth
Framedragger: hm i guess you don't save *any* memory, i can see why
Framedragger: hm. are there cases when the program would be like, "i don't have resources to handle this, later", in some embedded/realtime/low-resource context
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i don't think so, and i thought about linking this, too heh (need to update/patch kernels if they are < 4.5)
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-12#1642660 << i don't use mouthwash, brush and floss once a day (with regular non vibrating brush, and i reuse the floss untill it splits apart or breaks) -- hadn't been to the dentist in over 8 years; went in last year and they tell me my teeth are in great shape considering, although i did have to get some cavities fixed (mostly in wisdom teeth which is expected. and yes i still have my wisdom teeth ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't use mouthwash, nor would i. i can feel my tastebuds die it's horrible. i suspect usage of the shit has a lot to do with why us food is such tastel;ess crap. dudes can't taste anyway./
ben_vulpes: you know i don't think we've ever done the "sonicare" thread in here
ben_vulpes: i have seen too many spines ruined at the hands of people who suggest fixes that "might work, might leave you crippled! we don't even know what's wrong to begin with!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't have, or want, a giraffe in my house either.
ben_vulpes: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-10/inside-blue-apron-s-meal-kit-machine << i don't get this shit in the slightest. buy a wife?
asciilifeform: i don't have access to anything resembling a reality-based version of either figure.
mircea_popescu: trinque you gotta understand, up to a certain point i do enjoy executive priviledges that make it easier for me, but nevertheless up to a different point you don't express yourself too well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think su ever delivered 1mn of any kind of calculating machine, since we're on it.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-10 18:29 phf: ok, i guess we both know what the problem is. my solution is "study db related algorithms until you know enough to write a db", your solution, unless i misunderstand, seems to be "use an existing database a lot". i don't understand how learning, say, postgresql will get you from not knowing anything about db internal design to writing your own
mircea_popescu: "excel i understand" "no you don't" "but i've been using it forever" "not even that."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu described argentines as borderline tards but i don't recall hearing a story like this about them...
trinque: and I don't see that you get much "culture of honor" without it
asciilifeform: fwiw i still don't grasp what trinque was disagreeing with phf about.