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trinque: firearm discharge depends on acreage iirc, but I don't think anybody would arrest you for killing a fucking squirrel around here.
BingoBoingo: http://augustacrime.com/greenbrier-student-17-attacks-classmate-for-calling-her-a-whale/
BingoBoingo: ^ The obeast pest problem continues
BingoBoingo: And no, I dun believe the news fatbook picture
mircea_popescu: how did she attack, rolling motion ?
mircea_popescu: trinque this "state / usg" distinction carried water pre-lincoln.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure "the commerce clause" gives random swampocrat full authority to legislate squirrel rights.
trinque: certainly so
trinque: what a bunch of idiots, leaving such giant gaping holes in the thing.
mircea_popescu: they weren't in the thing.
mircea_popescu: the pretense that commerce clause enables washington bureaucracy is exactly like the usual fare of prison toughs. "you dropped your soap".
mircea_popescu: if i write "roses are red" and some douche goes "by roses he means milk, amirite ?" the failure of the douche's companions to knock him one upside the head does not translate in my having left any kind of hole in my text ; nor does it enact changing it to "roses are red and by roses we do not mean milk" into being reasonable. it's not fucking reasonable, the douche will just go "oh, by red he meant square"
mircea_popescu: in fact, trilema is principally about this.
mircea_popescu: and it all comes back to should-have-beaten-the-wives, of course.
trinque: words have meanings yes, and oughtn't need smearing of extra "no really they do" around, which immediately reminds one of OSS.
trinque: also can't deny that it wasn't the document that did anyting; the folks who wanted USGism killed more of the ones that didn't
trinque: eh poorly put. while the southern civilian death toll was certainly high and under-reported, also lots of the same on the other side. at any rate, lost.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1647194 <<< ask around local meatwot about local DCs and hardware sourcing options ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 20:44 mircea_popescu: davout i don't get it, what'd you ask around for ? people in the wot who you know but we somehow don't ?
mircea_popescu: ah ah!
mircea_popescu: is there even a dc there ?
davout: i'll... ask around!
mircea_popescu: :)
davout: looks like it at first cursory examination
mircea_popescu: fancy that, tmsr machines within em spying range of usg top sikrit sea of china equivalent
davout: the opposite would be surprising
davout: i'm off to .za ttyal later
mircea_popescu: la
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6AFE56F50CD78AD78E8C83E1107982A688420E8B5343E2EBE915060BA5095C36 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1640...0857 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '62.202.42.230 (ssh-rsa key from 62.202.42.230 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (230.42.202.62.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch. CH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6AFE56F50CD78AD78E8C83E1107982A688420E8B5343E2EBE915060BA5095C36 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1531...0967 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '62.202.42.230 (ssh-rsa key from 62.202.42.230 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (230.42.202.62.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch. CH)
shinohai: http://archive.is/I1CqK <<< Barry Shillbert: Buy mah shitcoin picks of the month so I can make use of all that Bitcoin ya'll don't need.
mircea_popescu: people still falling for the "picks" scam huh
asciilifeform: spam existing -- dun prove that spam 'worx' tho.
asciilifeform: 'human fat reactor'
mircea_popescu: there's that.
asciilifeform: it isn't as if broadcasting nonsense costs'em ~any.
mircea_popescu: in other random lulz, i ended up with this pair of very nice 8 carat diamonds and i've been playing with them in the light like a complete down case for the past half hour ☟︎
mircea_popescu: shit's fascinating!
shinohai: Of course not, scamcoin devs likely pay handsomely to get CoinDesk to spread teh word.
mircea_popescu: ah right, that's the end. he's not trying to get anyone to "buy his picks", he's trying to get the lesser scammers to pay him for his supposed crystal ball publicity services. the paul graham scam.
shinohai: A lulzy medium post on Shillbert M.O. https://medium.com/@charlescmackay/barry-silbert-and-the-cost-of-bitcoins-malfeasance-culture-f83d15ad07d1
mircea_popescu: let me guess, it says approximately http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1646777 except "in his own words". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 14:20 asciilifeform: 'Mike Pompeo, director of the Central Intelligence Agency ... "WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service," he said in prepared remarks at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "Assange is a narcissist who has created nothing of value," Pompeo said. "He relies on the dirty work of other to make himself famous. He is a fraud — a coward hiding behind a screen. "And
shinohai: More or less.
shinohai will lulz until death over his tweet about ETC being "First non-Bitcoin coin I evah bought" when guy was a Zooko supporter from day 1.
mircea_popescu: the cost of keeping the story straight is an exponential function of time whereas the gains for imperials are fixed at best -- their intended audience has no intelligence or culture. consequently, every usg shill will be leaking lulz after about 6 to 9 months depending on the volume he outputs.
mircea_popescu: in certain edges of the swamp there's ancient frogs of this nature, who've been chasing the same five dollah in clueless nigger spending for all their life, 30-40 years, firebranding nonsense all through. in the us they're called "senators" often enough, but the romanian word is "panarame".
mircea_popescu: the "famous dr luther waxling" in scorsese's seek and destroy would be a paradigmatic example i guess.
shinohai actually thought Dennis Hopper played that role well ....
mircea_popescu: o yeah.
mircea_popescu: i would like that thing on a card, you know.
mircea_popescu: "you wanna sit at the grown up table talkin' movie deals ? GET SOME FUCKING MONEY! YOU GOT NOTHING IN YOUR POCKETS!!"
mod6: TomServo: any update on your node?
mod6: TomServo: also, been watching any of the new MST3K?
shinohai: heh mod6 you like MST3K ?
shinohai: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/paulawa3245.jpeg <<< From this evening's Colombian report ....
mod6: Ya, cracks me up
mod6: lot of mn refs too
shinohai: Hah yeah it just dawned on me the show got started in your neck of the woods lol.
mod6: I just watched the 3rd episode of the new season, "The Time Travelers." There's a line in there that's something like 'Steve, what will it be like after all these centuries? Are you sure? I'm sure of one thing.' '[Crow]: Bitcoin.
shinohai: lel
mod6: ya
mod6: im just gonna come out and say it.
mod6: gnat frustrates me
shinohai: I have faith in you mod6
asciilifeform: mod6: do tell
asciilifeform wrestled with it for most of a year, only recently properly broken its will
mod6: well, i try to compile some simple examples and it talks shit to me
asciilifeform: paste?
mod6: maybe it's just the example that isn't mean to bean compiled.
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bdPh4/?raw=true
asciilifeform: with Sqrt
asciilifeform: where is it?
asciilifeform: says plain as day, file "sqrt.ads" not found
mod6: thought it might be inherited from Ada.* or whatever? or do i just need to implement my own?
asciilifeform: mno.
asciilifeform: if you copied this from a b00k, it was probably somewhere near this example.
asciilifeform: and incidentally if you ever wonder 'is this in the standard' -- grep.
mod6: yeah Ada 2012
asciilifeform: grab a copy of the standard & rationale
asciilifeform: ( htm ones )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647294 << great lulz , you can do with these. always wanted to, e.g., burn one. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 02:17 mircea_popescu: in other random lulz, i ended up with this pair of very nice 8 carat diamonds and i've been playing with them in the light like a complete down case for the past half hour
asciilifeform: film the burn, also.
mircea_popescu: proof of steak!
asciilifeform: betcha it would set the idiots off, better than the rabbit koran or what was it.
mircea_popescu: you're conflating two separate offenses!
asciilifeform: they merge, like a flying ace's kills.
shinohai: That asciilifeform too would have lost head in French Revolution.
mircea_popescu: soup of kills!
asciilifeform: 'sneeze into the sack' (tm)(r)
shinohai: Let's pseudo encrypt calls too! http://archive.is/IDg84
asciilifeform: red, black, ..., what 'colour' pnoje nao ?
asciilifeform: chartreuse?
asciilifeform: fuchsia?
shinohai: Mauve has the most RAM remember.
mircea_popescu: c is for cookies, that's good enough for me...
BingoBoingo: Back to this Koran bsns... It sure talks about jihad a lot... Have any of these SJW's (i.e. moldylocks the haircunt) actually read the other SJW's (Scary Jihad Warrior's) book?
ben_vulpes: scary jihad warrior my sides
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: gotta skim through their book. It's basically ad copy for ISIS. Incites feeling that the proper sane foreign policy to handle the middle east is wall building and enticing a greater idiot to occasionally hurl missiles over there when the mohammadeans get aggressive beyond their station.
ben_vulpes: embrace the imminent hairy rape, BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: if the us could still glass places, perhaps i'd not despise it so
BingoBoingo: I AM THE ONE WHO IS HAIRY.
ben_vulpes: go get 'em tiger
BingoBoingo: !~bash 8 ✂︎
jhvh1: Last 8 lines bashed and pending publication
ben_vulpes: may your hirstute frame hold the horde at bay ☟︎
trinque: BingoBoingo: yeah but what they really want is pixar movies about inclusiveness and to behave.
BingoBoingo: I have not seen pixar mentioned yet.
BingoBoingo: But taxes are.
BingoBoingo: As is all of the "nobody could have forseen" that ISIS does
BingoBoingo: Anyways, that rabbit had to die
BingoBoingo: !~later tell shinohai http://qntra.net/2017/04/shinohais-shitcoin-roundup-xtend-tmr-monero-ring-solution-coinbase-presents-gdax-has-goxlike-phenomenon-and-another-hoaxtoshi/#comment-94914
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: https://youtu.be/Jgv5ixxgTsQ?t=153 << couple of birds get really surprised around 2:30
ben_vulpes: i gather i should be impressed that the us can hit a ship under full steam with guided ordinance
ben_vulpes: what, this implies it's actually hard?
mats: and how would ben_vulpes accomplish this without sat or gps guidance?
mats: 'TACTOM' uses an illuminator that appears to require line-of-sight
TomServo: mod6: Sadly neither. I need to make time to wrap my head around dumpblock.
asciilifeform: in other noose, l. mogosanu ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1633021 ) has new bl0g -- http://thetarpit.org ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 05:21 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1632901 << yes, goes by spyked on trilema ; bright undergrad and then grad at the bucharest politechnic (which still is a fine technical school, though it was better pre-democracy).
shinohai: ty BingoBoingo, answered
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/SxcdT/?raw=true <<< Also, more sfyl
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1344E7C727F5952650B021FC146CC7EF579058AC0960D6F17AB3489730870564 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1635...2173 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.89.95.42 (ssh-rsa key from 183.89.95.42 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mx-ll-183.89.95-42.dynamic.3bb.co.th. TH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1344E7C727F5952650B021FC146CC7EF579058AC0960D6F17AB3489730870564 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1489...0139 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '183.89.95.42 (ssh-rsa key from 183.89.95.42 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mx-ll-183.89.95-42.dynamic.3bb.co.th. TH)
Framedragger: re the tarpit, ooh a blog written in CL with sane commenting system (yet to be seen, of course) sounds interesting enough
Framedragger: re. http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05f-two-plus-two.html, heh tbh i expected him to delve into some biazarro scheme which would have a weird additive property (not just an if-then rule), disappoint
shinohai: ^ now that is nice and clean looking.
asciilifeform: i gotta wonder why the d00d ain't here.
Framedragger: maybe he has an allergy, who knows these things ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647364 << hirsute. wtf is hirstute, like a hir-stitute ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 05:13 ben_vulpes: may your hirstute frame hold the horde at bay
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647378 << pretty sure i was reading that five years ago or somesuch. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 12:21 asciilifeform: in other noose, l. mogosanu ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1633021 ) has new bl0g -- http://thetarpit.org
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647389 << best i can tell, he suffers from the "maybe i won't have to do any laundry after all" geek disease. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 14:10 Framedragger: maybe he has an allergy, who knows these things
mircea_popescu: if you wait in a closet long enough, a) all problems resolve themselves eventually and b) your real life will start by itself also. because this is something people can do, decide what problems to apply themselves to and when to condescend to call their daily activity by that lofty name of "my life".
Framedragger: yeah... in fairness, he seems to be operating in his own meatwot, not in total isolation.
Framedragger: (but then, maybe that's only the presented impression. there is that closet smell, yeah.)
mircea_popescu: of course he is. everyone ever is.
mircea_popescu: the argument of irrelevancy is not as to isolation. it is as to irrelevancy. if the modernist delusion of "hi i can of myself and by myself choose what problems to apply myself to" rots one's brain, the result isn't necessarily a loner ; but what difference does that make ?
mircea_popescu: you're still applying yourself to the wrong problems.
BingoBoingo: ty shinohai
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/04/plastc-crowdfunded-credit-card-of-the-futures-goes-sfyl/ << Qntra - Plastc – Crowdfunded "Credit Card Of The Futures" Goes SFYL
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, ic.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/04/terror-in-their-hearts-syrian-refugees-settled-in-north-saint-louis-seek-new-refugee-status-due-to-neighbourhood-violence/ << Qntra - "Terror In Their Hearts" Syrian Refugees Settled In North Saint Louis Seek New Refugee Status Due To Neighbourhood Violence
BingoBoingo: ^ Unlike sweden where refugees terrorize locals, in Saint Louis local terrorize
asciilifeform: qntra down ??
BingoBoingo: slow still
BingoBoingo: much less slow momentarily
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/rodentrights1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/rodentrights2.jpg
BingoBoingo: Nice, did that trap in rights one fire? it's a it blurry
shinohai: /http://archive.is/JBLBv "Microsoft wants to bring data and machine intelligence closer together"
shinohai: Good luck with that ya'll
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not yet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Have you also considered setting up a shallow bowl full of "mole & gopher peanuts"
asciilifeform: wassat
asciilifeform: ah, rat poison. nope, and it is specifically not what i need here, i have 0 use for dead rodents in walls, between ceilings, had this at old flat and f--- would not do again. they gotta pay for their crimes on designated scaffolds, on designated chopping blocks.
BingoBoingo: ah
shinohai: asciilifeform strikes me as the type that will leave vermin carcass on a pike as a warning to the others ....
asciilifeform: if only this worked.
asciilifeform: ( the airgun film from youtube linked earlier was interesting imho, in re how rodents will happily climb on top of a pile of corpses of their fellows and sit there, chewing whatever snack... )
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/627AE84B7DF714E0354FE6D5A5DA9B89131AA38BD9D180D47E1A7BB872F121C9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1355...2917 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.254.229.143 (ssh-rsa key from 87.254.229.143 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (143.229.254.87.static.monaco.mc. MC)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/627AE84B7DF714E0354FE6D5A5DA9B89131AA38BD9D180D47E1A7BB872F121C9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1471...8473 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.254.229.143 (ssh-rsa key from 87.254.229.143 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (143.229.254.87.static.monaco.mc. MC)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( the airgun film from youtube linked earlier was interesting imho, in re how rodents will happily climb on top of a pile of corpses of their fellows and sit there, chewing whatever snack... ) << Pretty sure this is part of the criteria for being rodent
mircea_popescu: alf takes terrible pictures. ☟︎
shinohai: Nah, they are artistic photos, meant to capture the melancholy and precarious situation the rodents find themselves in, teetering on the brink of life and death in a cold, unforgiving attic.
mircea_popescu: ah
ben_vulpes: a hir-stitute!
mircea_popescu: lel
shinohai wonders if alf's attic would make a better BDSM hangout than that place mircea_popescu mentioned in Disk Less Terminal
mircea_popescu: most attics make fine dungeons.
ben_vulpes: mats: for my education, over how large of an area can a carrier group jam gps? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes its amusing to me to see all the usgistani youtube rarararing (a fine example : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vej_aLJpFYo ) deeply rely on satellites. fact : large scale involvement with either russia or china will contain the end of satellites as the very first step.
mircea_popescu: there ISN'T GOING TO BE a gps.
ben_vulpes: that'll be the end of orbital access as well.
mircea_popescu: the russian thing may survive slightly longer because it is a later, better design with some concern shown to this problem ; and because the americans are inept and ineffectual. but it's iffy.
ben_vulpes: once satwar begins, debris is going to knock out *all* birds and make orbit useless until someone decides to burn epic piles of btc cleaning it up. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's why things like the guided missile yest use direct sighting etc.
mircea_popescu: and that's also why all the expenditure on maps and so on. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: by and large, if there's a gps there's not a war and vice-versa. they're entirely and without remainder mutually exclusive.
mircea_popescu: but yes, you're right, it also means no more iss etc. though it's unclear what that will do -- currently outer orbit is not exactly friendly anyway. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: dead reckoning works reasonably well, in that it has an error distribution and one can handle that with volume.
ben_vulpes: open sea not friendly either.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647425 << they're from a chinese turret cam ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 17:36 mircea_popescu: alf takes terrible pictures.
asciilifeform: 320x200
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647432 << see l0gz re correct method of jamming gps (hint : from the air, usg spent $maxint on directional noise-subtractor ; and OMFG not from point source ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 17:45 ben_vulpes: mats: for my education, over how large of an area can a carrier group jam gps?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647437 << see uncle al's orbital scrubber ( 1000kg ea. of ball bearings and tnt ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 17:48 ben_vulpes: once satwar begins, debris is going to knock out *all* birds and make orbit useless until someone decides to burn epic piles of btc cleaning it up.
mircea_popescu: the correct method of jamming gps is the space age equivalent of the 45 magnum round. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-17#1556262 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-10-17 05:41 mircea_popescu: so yes, there is ONE possibly useful application of a military railgun : making the deep space interdictor. but this is slight.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647439 << modern rocket (incl. winged rocket, e.g. the very same 'tomahawk' ) track terrain. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 17:48 mircea_popescu: and that's also why all the expenditure on maps and so on.
asciilifeform: ( that and whatever rf the enemy is dumb enough to helpfully emit from point source )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647441 << the iss imploding would be quite equivalent to 10,001 'head start' kindergartens burning to the ground, with inmates & crew inside ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 17:49 mircea_popescu: but yes, you're right, it also means no more iss etc. though it's unclear what that will do -- currently outer orbit is not exactly friendly anyway.
mircea_popescu: soooo ?
asciilifeform: i.e. a massive win for 'maga'
asciilifeform: it's a money furnace with 0 ev.
mircea_popescu: but alf! the humanity! and its "our goals" of cooperation ands etc!
asciilifeform: (rather, -$maxint ev )
asciilifeform: aaaha. rodentrights.
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima be off to talk to hookers. laters.
asciilifeform: ( btw iss doesn't even live in outer orbit. closer to... outer atmosphere. )
Framedragger: relevant article: http://www.idlewords.com/2005/08/a_rocket_to_nowhere.htm
Framedragger: (worth a read. can argue later. but recommend. but probably known to alf et al.)
Framedragger: (shitty tl;dr: iss is a toy which is nasa's bureaucratic instrument to get constant, predictable budget assignations (consider that iss always has to be crewed). now-defunct space shittle + iss was a perfect self-sustaining devil's pair.)
shinohai: http://archive.is/U4lDq <<<Unicorn Frappuccino, meet Special Snowflake.
mircea_popescu: the problem with research is that it's not a reasonable activity from accounting pow.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/04/22/how-to-be-tbtf-the-microsoft-way/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - How to be TBTF the Microsoft way.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/rogue-cop/ << Trilema - Rogue Cop
asciilifeform misread as 'rogue cpp'
asciilifeform: also BingoBoingo on second thought i disrecommend this type of trap : stiff trigger. ( asciilifeform now has film of vermin happily munching from the traps )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~100% of iss 'research' is of roughly same grade as 'climate science.'
asciilifeform: liquishit that doesn't pass the laugh test.
asciilifeform: (as described in Framedragger's link. 'why does this box need crew to push a button?' 'BECAUSE! stfu terrorist' 'didn't grass grow in orbit 10,001 times in this identical way?' 'stfu terrorist' etc.
asciilifeform: )
phf: http://www.stanforddaily.com/2017/02/28/cs-department-updates-introductory-courses/ ☟︎
phf: “adapting to industry shifts and student feedback, the computer science department has implemented various changes to its introductory courses, CS106 and CS107. This spring, a pilot version of CS106A, tentatively called CS106J, will be taught in Javascript instead of Java. Meanwhile, CS106S: “Programming Abstractions and Social Good” is being offered as a standalone class for the first time this winter, encouraging students to consider the s
phf: ocial impact their work can have.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1647200 << i like to think of it as an eccentric quirk. every time i notice it, i'm amused at how dumb that parser it ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 21:57 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1647131 << in which we lol at how phf's logtron makes https clickable to 404.
phf: *is ☟︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-22#1647480 << wait that's not a joke? omg. you're all like "are you surprised??", but i honestly didn't think it'd go that low ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-22 23:22 phf: http://www.stanforddaily.com/2017/02/28/cs-department-updates-introductory-courses/
Framedragger: i will claim that for all the free burning-in-hell credits that java has honourably accrued, it is at least somewhat of a programming language. at least you learn what a fucking type is. JS is something like a 24/7 d0pe weed smoking experience in class (unoriginal redundant repetitions are redundant, but still...)
shinohai: If I don't haz to go to class, then I need not know what class is :D
asciilifeform: 'When Roberts came to Stanford in 1990, CS106A was still taught in Pascal, a programming language he described as not “clean.” The department adopted the C language in 1992.'
Framedragger: shinohai: that's the thing, this'd actually be somewhat consistent :D and possibly less of a waste of time
asciilifeform: ahahahaha
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-15#626237 << see also. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-04-15 18:34 asciilifeform: 'we refuse to produce any more C programmers who are a danger to themselves and others.' -- my old dean
shinohai: lel
Framedragger: i actually never got to know what the major issue with pascal was. (i mean, as long as you're teaching imperative programming..) ☟︎
asciilifeform: Framedragger: that it ain't c/cpp/shitscript/whatever.
asciilifeform: that it isn't 'up to sync with INDUSTRY!!1!!!'
Framedragger granted, mostly avoided pascal in high school by way of teachers being tards, so maybe not enough radiation exposure to develop rash
Framedragger: lol ffs.
asciilifeform: ( shocking seekrit!11: pascal grew up and turned into ada in '83 )
phf: pascal is still taught as main language in some european universities including moscow state cs department
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-18#1645317 << this was an experimental place, after doing more traditional club with table service, which i'm honestly not good at. it was a frat bar, and 3 of us had thursday which typically was really slow night, bar % and door. so we had a chance to build up various gimmicks, and see how they play out. i was good at that. at height the take home was about 2k each, which is way low compared to a club, but really go ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 00:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-17#1645221 << were you any good at that ?
phf: od for a divy bar. fun stuff when you're 25.