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idioter: hello. i made a withdrawal on coinbr.com from mpex about 4 days ago. i have been told i need to talk to mircea popescu about it.
PeterL: mircea_popescu mpex faq still points to #bitcoin-assets
mats: thanks for operating mpex
davout: mpex faq*
davout: he's in the mpex apparently
pizzaman1337: one day I'm reading bitcoin-assets logs and bitbet is going... somewhere, mpex going private.. what's going on?
mircea_popescu: funny thing, people derping in 2012 "oh no way mpex is worth what, almost 1 mn ?!?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu recalls the time when mpoe divs were easily in the k's of btcs and mpex barely counted in the mix.
mircea_popescu: mike_c> yeah. well, how long could mpoe have survived without mpoe-pr? << in fairness... mpex listed itself by reverse-merger with the then-listed mpoe ; which continued operation as a distinct profit center but that has meanwhile discontinued. it's such a historical layering of evolutions etc that some restructuring years later seems inevitable.
mike_c: oh, that little thing about mpex going private?
diana_coman: the way I read it, it says: a. the fiat pretend-sovereign has nothing to do with mpex going private b. bitbet did NOT die because of 17 btc
deedbot-: [Qntra] MPEx Goes Private - http://qntra.net/2016/04/mpex-goes-private/
deedbot-: [Trilema] MPEx (S.MPOE) Closing Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/mpex-smpoe-closing-statement/
mircea_popescu: check out the mpex magic!
mircea_popescu: well, the one bot is unvoiced and so on. but : http://trilema.com/2016/mpex-smpoe-closing-statement/
asciilifeform: mpex.co no longer showing mpoe ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: pls to mpex
jurov: fetching from mpex via rss works fine, too
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would you sell mpex to hitler ?
asciilifeform: (this thing where folks expect keys to never change, is lulzy, yes i get it, mircea_popescu gotta prevent mpex account resale, but it is dumb in any other context)
phf: i left because conversation is dead and there's no attempt to revive it. it seems like the only shared thing between those left is hatred for mp, which is not particularly good community builder. last thing i saw was nubbins repeating the same point he made about 4 times now about MPEX trade volume
asciilifeform: i also played it on demo-mpex for a while
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00049226 = 10.682 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00049273 = 7.8344 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11065 @ 0.00049236 = 5.448 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28935 @ 0.00049362 = 14.2829 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8180 @ 0.00049321 = 4.0345 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00049321 = 5.9925 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00049321 = 13.7606 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54950 @ 0.00049305 = 27.0931 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23793 @ 0.00049289 = 11.7273 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00049537 = 11.3935 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2882 @ 0.00049076 = 1.4144 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9018 @ 0.00049473 = 4.4615 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00049537 = 1.2137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.000495 = 2.5988 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00049221 = 8.1953 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4165 @ 0.00049076 = 2.044 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24706 @ 0.00049879 = 12.3231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00050017 = 8.728 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24444 @ 0.00049879 = 12.1924 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55650 @ 0.00049429 = 27.5072 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 50000 @ 0.0000825 = 4.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00049626 = 31.2644 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00049766 = 8.9081 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00049766 = 4.8771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00049784 = 10.2306 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00049785 = 13.442 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00049588 = 10.2647 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00050404 = 14.718 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23580 @ 0.00045109 = 10.6367 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00044447 = 12.9785 BTC [+]
nubbins`: hell, see mpex's PMB scam for reference.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00009 / 0.00009 / 0.0000902 (422055 shares, 37.98 BTC), 30D: 0.00009 / 0.00009 / 0.0000902 (422055 shares, 37.98 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27456 @ 0.00044447 = 12.2034 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: which I think is made clear enough by the line about how it's the sole discression of MPEx to decide how to resolve issues
danielpbarron: the only one who can violate an MPEx listing agreement is the non-MPEx party signing it
danielpbarron: so then don't use MPEx
danielpbarron: what's the issue? MPEx says send X. Guy sends Y instead.
assbot: Case I - Wences vs MPEx, Breach of fiduciary duty on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PsaeiI )
danielpbarron: ah this http://trilema.com/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
jurov: it goes back long time to things like the wences lawsuit, i likened the situation to mpex having a sinkhole in the foyer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4131 @ 0.00044447 = 1.8361 BTC [+]
davout: trinque: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET see 3.2. (d)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4131 @ 0.00042201 = 1.7433 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17169 @ 0.00041887 = 7.1916 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00041827 = 2.1541 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0.00005 / 0.00007428 / 0.000085 (634821 shares, 47.16 BTC), 7D: 0.00005 / 0.00007517 / 0.000085 (692100 shares, 52.03 BTC), 30D: 0.00005 / 0.00007521 / 0.000086 (695100 shares, 52.28 BTC)
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 23:35:26; assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 379000 @ 0.00009 = 34.11 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 379000 @ 0.00009 = 34.11 BTC [-] {2} ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 195000 @ 0.00005012 = 9.7734 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 42429 @ 0.000085 = 3.6065 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00041764 = 1.7541 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 50000 @ 0.000209 = 10.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0.000085 / 0.000085 / 0.000085 (454671 shares, 38.65 BTC), 7D: 0.000085 / 0.000085 / 0.000085 (454671 shares, 38.65 BTC), 30D: 0.000085 / 0.000085 / 0.000086 (457671 shares, 38.90 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 147392 @ 0.000085 = 12.5283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 250000 @ 0.000085 = 21.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00041707 = 11.6571 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8701 @ 0.00041886 = 3.6445 BTC [-]
nubbins`: maybe he means undisputed here: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7759 @ 0.00041886 = 3.2499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87100 @ 0.00041893 = 36.4888 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00041995 = 5.9213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44462 @ 0.00041959 = 18.6558 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00041922 = 7.1687 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 13:53:13; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell koinplug a) mpex also uses undisclosed addresses in special cases ; b) we have some old fixed-price contracts with some users who renew their key periodically.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 57279 @ 0.000085 = 4.8687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 42954 @ 0.00009 = 3.8659 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell koinplug a) mpex also uses undisclosed addresses in special cases ; b) we have some old fixed-price contracts with some users who renew their key periodically. ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00041922 = 1.5092 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00041934 = 13.5866 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UI1Fad )
koinplug: but http://mpex.co/faq.html says there's only one exchange address, 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx
assbot: MPEx (S.MPOE) February 2016 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UI1ETH )
koinplug: http://trilema.com/2016/mpex-smpoe-february-2016-statement/
koinplug: I have been looking at mpex and I think I'm misunderstanding something
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00041975 = 12.2987 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00041975 = 11.6271 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00042074 = 1.2201 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0004203 = 5.9472 BTC [-] {2}