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mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not proposing x.1 as a counterargument of y.2, they're separate trees, and separate trees are reconciled at the roots by a manager.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-15 21:28 asciilifeform: diana_coman: steps to replicate: 0) on a machine WITH A WORKING GNAT (e.g. adacore's , and it must be in your path already ) 1 ) download the tarball from http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-partial-and-parallel-build-support 2) unpack tarball ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15.tgz , go to the dir 3) mkdir bin << this is where the built binariola will live 4) ./build-ada.sh /home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin
asciilifeform: in theory this is exactly what you'll get if you 1) install the output of ave1's system on a clean box 2) build the thing, now there, again
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there are 2 known gnat codebase 'forks' , 'fsf'/gnu and adacore
mircea_popescu: or else universe 2, whereby chassis for pizarro is produced by you as free agent. in this world we have to now explain what nsa actually is, which becomes a rather difficult task, and pizarro will have to sell its bonds on market, to whatever discount.
asciilifeform: ave1: current version seems to build 1) working pc compiler 2) dynamic-turd arm64 compiler 3) pc-to-arm64 cross compiler
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:56 mircea_popescu: and why is the chassis 1k ? am i missing something besides "aluminum" ? and why is the bitcoin 17252/2.75 = 6273?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 16:21 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-16 04:46 mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << was this ever broken down ? so 800 per u, 100 per chip, and 2000 transport coming to (800*2+100*96 + 2000) = 13200 ?
ave1: diana_coman, I will try myself too, but need to do some disk shuffling first (I do not have enough room available). Could you send me the config.log in build/build-bootstrap/binutils-2.25.1/build1?
ave1: as for the error, can you go to build/build-bootstrap/binutils-2.25.1/build1 and paste the config.log?
mircea_popescu: and why is the chassis 1k ? am i missing something besides "aluminum" ? and why is the bitcoin 17252/2.75 = 6273? ☟︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 16:21 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << was this ever broken down ? so 800 per u, 100 per chip, and 2000 transport coming to (800*2+100*96 + 2000) = 13200 ? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i thought it was 24/chassis, 2u/chassis and (for some reason, obviously incorrect), 2 chassis per trip.
ben_vulpes: my mistaken misunderstanding that you could only do 2 chassis of RC plant is incorrect then, which is actually cool
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah i had some notion that you maxed out at 2 chassis, if we can do it in a single run that'd be great
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-15 16:21 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << anyways, since there's cash on hand and building what i think are 2 trips worth of rockchip plant would get us more than clearing rent, imma push to get the next two plants into fab so that when the price inevitably dips we have a basis on which to capture http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809922 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: seventeen lmfao i ain't seen more than 2 in a week in recent memory. far more irksome the raw advertisements from which i must sift actual and extremely rare bits of important mail.
mircea_popescu: so how did a.1 turn into b.1 while a.2 is entirely aside ? no working classifier, what is it ?
mircea_popescu: !!rate ave1 2 produced the holy grail : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813760 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: !!rated ave1 2 produced the holy grail : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-15#1813760 ☝︎
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated ave1 2 at 2017/07/19 18:58:19 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686605
asciilifeform: diana_coman: steps to replicate: 0) on a machine WITH A WORKING GNAT (e.g. adacore's , and it must be in your path already ) 1 ) download the tarball from http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-partial-and-parallel-build-support 2) unpack tarball ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15.tgz , go to the dir 3) mkdir bin << this is where the built binariola will live 4) ./build-ada.sh /home/foo/temp/ada/ada-musl-cross-2018-05-15/bin ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
mod6: 24032 (from ben's lisp thing) / 8500 = 2.82 BTC at todays prices for 24 Rockchips delivered is what we had figured out.
mod6: Now what is a waste of time, for me, is this lisp/sexp shit. For instance, lastnight it cost us 2 man hours. 1 for me, 1 for ben who had to take me through the entire rockchip lisp thing that he created.
asciilifeform: that's the interesting bit, stalin 1) ordered the continuing ukr brush war, hushed up 2) proclaimed blanket amnesty for surrendering rebels
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm still waiting to run across the kundera, solzhenitsyn, or the like, whose work shows any symptoms of grasping that 1) 'free world' was a cheap scam 2) switching moscow whip for washington whip won't improve anything 3) the uppity orcs will lose whatever sovereignty, industrial civ level, etc. they have under sov colonization, when (2) happens , and remain sad and dependent
asciilifeform: ( part 2, ch. vii )
mircea_popescu: the $200 bottle of whiskey is a product of the EXACT same process as "i have a bf, why would i be your slave" patriotism. there is no whiskey extant today, ever existent in history or ever to be devises worth more than $2 a galon. for the very simple and strictly unassailable reason that grain alcohol is one step above wood alcohol, and approximately equal to gasoline.
asciilifeform: they were rubbish when they first hit conveyor, and are rubbish now; good for intended purpose for maybe a year or 2 when new
ben_vulpes: perhaps i misunderstand, but when i think "securitized" i think "brent" and the forsakeofargument "bvulpes reserve-grade distillate", which anyone can produce from flower if their heads are screwed on with more than 2 threads
mod6: Well, I've gotten stuck 2 different times. The first way was with a stage3 from yesterday, which, the install worked, but left me with GCC-6.4.0.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-12 16:49 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, if you end up in hong kong next, it'll be 2/3 done!
a111: 2 results for "opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=44356", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=opennet.ru%2Fopennews%2Fart.shtml%3Fnum%3D44356
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, if you end up in hong kong next, it'll be 2/3 done! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, 3 btc is like 30k, 4 * 8 + 2.5 is like 5k, did we misplace an order of magnitude somewhere ?
ben_vulpes: i crunched some numbers, and i think it's going to cost around 3 btc to put the production rockchip plant together and get it down south, all based on 4 2U's with 24 rockchippen each, transpo of ~2.5kusd and per-chassis fab costs of ~800usd. i think with the outrageous success of the rockchip pilot plant pizarro's in a *great* spot to refinance per mircea_popescu's suggestion, to provide for the production
ben_vulpes: sure; i recently got 2 pair of tall jackstands, delivered to house, for ~.6 the cost of item at store which was even shorter
a111: Logged on 2014-11-15 00:28 asciilifeform: one would read instructions. another, turn a wrench, whatever. third would check that 2 corresponds to 1. then, all three sign under that step in recipe.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 21:10 mircea_popescu: as it's not acctually correctly designed it 1) creates false sense of security ; 2) creates unnecessary byzantinism and "can't pop the hood on this"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 04:11 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, here's a suspicious : so many of these tards have known factors like 2, 3, 5 -- showing there was ~no primality test involved. isn't it bizarre we don't see other factors then, say 111 ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, here's a suspicious : so many of these tards have known factors like 2, 3, 5 -- showing there was ~no primality test involved. isn't it bizarre we don't see other factors then, say 111 ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu i'm beginning to think that my proof is wrong, and it gotta be 3 2/3-sized segments, rather than 4 1/2-sized , to work.
mircea_popescu: GNU Binutils 2.24 pile of luls. smh.
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-version-2/ << esthlos - esthlos-v Version 2
esthlos: ok, I can fix it in 2 min. sec
esthlos: http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-version-2/ << I'm using tabs as 4 spaces, and I see the code as <80 col. what's your set up?
esthlos: trinque mircea_popescu phf ben_vulpes mircea_popescu et al: http://blog.esthlos.com/esthlos-v-version-2/
pete_dushenski: just finished reading "NYT #1" (aren't they all) book by yuval harari - homo deus - in which this ~historian~ goes on and on about ai taking ur jerbs, magick biotech pills that will turn us into supermen, and other technodystopianist nonsense. had dude shut up after first 2/3rds of the book and stuck with the history of human technological progress
asciilifeform: by '34 su had already cranked through 2-3 turns of the cycle
asciilifeform: observe where veblenism ended up going : 1) there exists a $mil phone 2) it consists of ipboje with diamonds glued on.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811085 << minigame would host it ; so would deedbot. you saw the trb build style, specifically http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html (the parts where it goes 'curl http://deedbot.org/deed-430460-2.txt > rotor.tar.gz.asc') ☝︎
ave1: Yes, 2.14 (this was to find out if I could make glibc produce smaller statically build outputs)
asciilifeform: ( jurov found 2 separate ones, they've been in the faq for a while )
esthlos: trinque: updated file at http://files.esthlos.com/crypto/v_2/v.lisp , sig at http://files.esthlos.com/crypto/v_2/v.lisp.esthlos.sig
a111: 2 results for "\"sulfmeto\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22sulfmeto%22
mircea_popescu: believe it or not, empire still runs on excel, empire still prefers the list 1, 3, 5, 7 to the generator n*2+1.
asciilifeform: hard to say 0, there's simply gotta be at least 1 or 2 debian victims
asciilifeform: scanning is 'embarrassingly parallel', e.g. if you have 2 places to work from , it goes 2x as fast, and so on linearly
asciilifeform: 2) if mod / oneknownfactor is prime, we get the other kind, also a just-that-modulus factor
lobbesbot: fromdeedbot: Sent 1 day, 2 hours, and 41 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> stop join/parting.
mircea_popescu: 2.5 haitis to the btc sorta thing.
asciilifeform: takes a day or 2 to grab a snapshot of sks. another day to cut it. then swallows in 1-2d
mircea_popescu: aha. so this is covered for what, about 2 weeks (tm) ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aside from the fact that nobody has any such thing to send... there's 2.5kW iirc in the rack, of which maybe half a kw is actually drawn. so in principle such a thing could.
mircea_popescu: how tight were the 6 rockchips packaged ? 2 u ? 1 ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is less, this includes 2 FG
mircea_popescu: you have more than 2 ?
mircea_popescu: box only has 2 fgs ; 1 colo spot ; box rental itself is the rest.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809491 << from experience the (complete) cost for a http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/ locus, ie, 2/3 bedroom apt, is somewhere around 8-9k/year. notrly reaching into five figures, is it ? ☝︎
mod6: 2) What is BB spending that is not recorded.
asciilifeform: mod6: theoretically i 'shouldn't have to' lug 100kg of iron in a cart across 2 continents, but sometimes gotta do things 'shouldn't have to', lol
asciilifeform took the expected day or 2 of pause, chance, to run fermat
asciilifeform: ( thus far reported just the same 2 outputs as in summer of '16 )
asciilifeform: relatedly, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1808752 is about 1/2 done atm ☝︎
asciilifeform: and certain topics are 'trendy' and get grants but only for so long as you walk the unwritten line and 1) do NOT publish result 2) best of all do not even do the experiment, lest the result somehow leak out
mircea_popescu: 1. research, as a proper item ( http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ ) died sometime at the onset of the socialist state. 2. the socialist state isn't willing to admit it will never ever do anything useful intellectually again, sets out to "reproduce" the results of science through what it understands of the method. 3. this in due time creates the "bologna system" of grants and so on.
asciilifeform: zx2c4: 2) they did not do the research
zx2c4: 2&3? part 3 of item 2?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, 2. 3 is an indirect side effect of no particular consequence.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 19:18 asciilifeform: ( how long does it sail, 2 hours each way ? )
asciilifeform: lobbes: again, we are discussing permanent (and quite complex) solutions to a temporary problem. after current batch, it'll be 1-2 pops a week if we're lucky.
asciilifeform: but if someone stands up to write something for me to debug -- i will 1) say 'thank you' 2) debug it.
mircea_popescu: 2. the proposed modification is to create a new table, of columns A B C D timestamp. this is to be indexed on whichever A B C D is the modulus. the proposed use is to have a process sort this table by unique index where timestamp = "" ; report ONE such item, and update ALL the lines with that modulus with current timestamp IF any only IF the highest timestamp found in the table is 900 seconds behind current timestamp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see, it will spit out another thou or 2, and then it'll be oncie-twocie per week.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually for quite some time i've had it so that it finds both factors in 1 day ( when we're dealing with a proper 2-large-primes mod, rather than random liquishit )
diana_coman: ugh, this 3-step magic approach: 1. put out a disclaimer mixed with minimal-risk pretence of having done some homework 2. flatter generically and at minimal cost to self 3. "ask" about some current buzzwords, as a cheap way of signalling
douchebag: He's also great with hardware hacking. He showed us a proof of concept for hacking a bently. He managed to build a device that. 1.) Unlocked the vehicle 2.) Disable the immobilizer 3.) Use keyless ignition to start the vehicle and drive off
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc there are 2 cables in stock. with mircea_popescu's permission i would also authorize the removal of 1 usbttl from the snsa spare machine.
asciilifeform: ( how long does it sail, 2 hours each way ? ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: !!rate mocky 2 remarkably mentally organized eulora noob. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 05:25 ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-2#346680 << other way around, actually. 0.5 for the fuckgoats, 0.4 for the machine
asciilifeform: ( where it is nao : parcel 10 of 13 is 1/2 way in; each parcel holds ~800k keyz )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it'll run dry after 2-3 bursts.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AD6129A892538DB7ACE33A5752B86F1020D451B6AD7B67D224517F637AC3D1EA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1431...6337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.108.175.2 (ssh-rsa key from 213.108.175.2 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (home.jnc.astrakhan.ru. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E6EF682A3EDB8A425B48EB2EFD7440D693DB3BCB17E9153F4DBE7BAEF5EFB49F << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1431...6337 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '182.23.24.2 (ssh-rsa key from 182.23.24.2 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown ID)
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-2#346680 << other way around, actually. 0.5 for the fuckgoats, 0.4 for the machine ☟︎