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Framedragger: diana_coman: you are forgetting the detail where
phuctor wasn't the first to do what it did.
Framedragger: diana_coman: i don't believe that
phuctor is *that* important, yes.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i am quite content with their bibliography section. they did not include
phuctor (but included the other studies before and after
phuctor), and that is a failure on their part. they can be informed and will even perhaps address this point. that does not fail *the whole paper* in my books, however.
Framedragger: they *did acknowledge the first study* (2012 - before
phuctor.)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i don't see how this is enabling. by that metric, *everything* is enabling. someone used
phuctor to hack into box,
phuctor enabled them?
Framedragger: "#trilema dislikes a random irrelevant paper for not having mentioned
phuctor; the rest of the discussion is about how academia used to be better."
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: what original thing did they take from
phuctor, may i ask?
☟︎ Framedragger: well, why don't i (unless someone else already planned to do it first?) write to those folks on that ML, informing of
phuctor, to see their response? maybe futile at this point and useless, but at least a more constructive reaction.
Framedragger: granted,
phuctor gets crawled *more* / *a lot* (i presume, from what you had been telling). so i understand the incredulity of "you haven't heard?!!"
Framedragger: and you absolutely cannot fathom the humble thought that they simply didn't hear about
phuctor?
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ok i've read it; so your chief issue is that they didn't mention
phuctor in-between the initial 2012 study and the 2016 years correct? i mean, bear with me, i'm not baiting.
Framedragger: so,
phuctor didn't originate the idea, is all.
Framedragger knows phf and asn from that list personally and knows for certain that they didn't 'plagiarize' from
phuctor. but whatever, if
phuctor not cited, it's plagiarism because independent thought not possible, etc.
mircea_popescu: (somebody plox send to asn@torproject.org claudiar@princeton.edu laurar@csa.princeton.edu an' pwinter@cs.princeton.edu a notice saying "you forgot to quote
phuctor, you dorks".)
mircea_popescu: not that different from how
phuctor worked irl and so on.