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mircea_popescu: no, my point is that it's easier to give the police guns and then bitch when they shoot the wrong people than you know, hold a gun and pick and choose. and similarly...
assbot: How much do we know about Gurkha police in Singapore? - SgForums.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1zT5f4v )
decimation: the Nepalese police?
decimation: now the situation is reversed, and citizens must ask police to wield guns. This confusion is at the root of much of what is wrong with usg.
mircea_popescu: so.. yeah, this "police will protect us" thing is going to last what, another year or two.
BlueMeanie4: oh sure Romania is probably safer than NYC, certianly safer than NYC with no police
BlueMeanie4: to them 'police' are these annoying characters who want to get between them and their pot habit
BlueMeanie4: as that last video showed, there are plenty of ppl of all colors who do not want the police removed
BlueMeanie4: in most american cities, esp. most black neighborhoods they wouldn't dare remove the police
mircea_popescu: here's a simple reform idea : take guns away from police. because government employees are slaves, and slaves don't belong carrying arms. that's for citizens only.
assbot: Riot-torn Ferguson's distrust of police flows from a city run on fines - World - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/15ONEly )
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/riot-torn-ferguson-s-distrust-of-police-flows-from-a-city-run-on-fines-1.2858208
assbot: Fatal hammer attack on Bosnian immigrant not racially motivated, St. Louis police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1pRgv1t )
decimation: meanwhile on the other side of the river: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html "St. Louis police Chief Sam Dotson spoke with residents at the street protest Sunday night. He said he was sorry about what happened and sought to reassure people the killing did not appear motivated by race or ethnicity."
mircea_popescu: "In 2009 Mayor Cheye Calvo proposed a measure that would require every Maryland police department that operates a SWAT team to submit biannual reports on its activities, including where and when it was deployed and whether an operation resulted in arrests, evidence seizures, or injuries."
decimation: re: follow-up on those 'oath keepers' who 'volunteered' to guard businesses in Ferguson: https://www.facebook.com/duane.weed.54/posts/988857591129752 << "This past Wednesday (11/26), local police were advised in private briefings that the police (i.e. Federal agencies) now consider the Oath Keepers the threat, not the New Black Panthers, the pro-Michael Brown demonstrators, or ISIS."
assbot: Some Ferguson residents accuse police of aggressive arrest tactics ... ( http://bit.ly/1wmoPZa )
asciilifeform: 'Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it; moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plate commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceiv
kakobrekla: meh reddit... 'reddit police' ddosing bbet, 'reddit bitcoin' retweeting bitbet tweets at same time
pete_dushenski: "A US man has been handed a US$500,000 fine for selling the StealthGenie malware in the first prosecution of a mobile spyware slinger. Police collared Hammad Akbar, 31, in September after he allegedly sold the malware to an undercover agent in 2012."
assbot: Police shut down mysterious 'Oath Keepers' guarding rooftops in downtown Ferguson : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1v6acb6 )
assbot: SWAT Police Caught Setting Fires In Ferguson - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1rIXwBD )
decimation: mats_cd03: unfortunately it seems like the 'secret police' is often trotted as a solution to many of usg's problems
mats_cd03: which is great for tactical warfighting, but much less suited to a task better left for secret police
mircea_popescu: it's like the proposition that there's an open market in police work. no, there isn't, not for as long as an agent steals any of it that it feels like and torches the efforts of anyone else.
assbot: AR-15 rifle stolen from St. Louis County police car torched by rioters in Ferguson : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwg4oK )
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ar--rifle-stolen-from-st-louis-county-police-car/article_81836345-b8b6-5dd5-8efd-b76be291afc7.html
cazalla: unless perhaps trained in the mircea_popescu school of disarming police officers
assbot: Tear gas used after protesters burn police car, break windows at Ferguson city hall; 45 arrested : News ... ( http://bit.ly/11uQQQX )
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/tear-gas-used-after-protesters-burn-police-car-break-windows/article_4e930309-b1b5-581d-85ed-04cd0a8f7921.html
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I'm British remember, our police don't suck.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re conductive cloth : easy cheap and pleasant anti-taser pill. watch the operator /whould police tough man get 3rd degree bunrs ? win.
assbot: St. Louis County police: Ferguson no-fly zone was for safety, not to keep media away : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xZmCUa )
decimation: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-county-police-ferguson-no-fly-zone-was-for/article_76a8ece7-f9de-5fb2-bcf4-9a79422b4f01.html
asciilifeform: (i once spoke with a police chopper man during a local 'show & tell', asked about armour. he answered 'you gotta be kidding')
decimation: asciilifeform: wrt police need to know < I think there is some credibility to Mr. Y's thinking that urban police 'bridge the gap' between crazy usg policy and reality
asciilifeform: police, incidentally, are the accomplished masters of 'need to know'
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, it would really only be of interest to someone who is interesting to the police
decimation: actually because of police encryption, the fire dept. is more interesting
BingoBoingo: decimation: But if I go closer than my present 30 miles... I face the possibility of encountering either police or protesters
assbot: St. Louis County Police Scanner on USTREAM: This is an audio stream of the St. Louis County Police scanners.Ferguson PDRIOT-ARIOT-BRIOT-CRIOT-DRIOT-E... ... ( http://bit.ly/1zspWnS )
BingoBoingo: Just turned on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner sounds interesting already
assbot: IN FERGUSON: Businesses burn, police cars torched as violence 'much worse' than August : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEt1XU )
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/in-ferguson-police-cars-businesses-on-fire-much-worse-than/article_47fc89b3-b0d2-5c41-a1fa-f4636673aac0.html
assbot: Heavy Police Presence In Ferguson To Ensure Residents Adequately Provoked | The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1yPBscU )
BingoBoingo: http://www.theonion.com/articles/heavy-police-presence-in-ferguson-to-ensure-reside,37528/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=Pic:1:Default
undata: you combine militarized police with a currency crisis, something of that nature, then maybe
asciilifeform: local police will be partially disarmed and yet more bureaucratized, yes. and ultimately - subordinated and absorbed into a national gendarmerie.
BingoBoingo: WHITE MALE set a police car on fire
BingoBoingo: Police seem more concerned with the Walgreens though
BingoBoingo: Police said "skirmish line"
assbot: St. Louis County Police Scanner on USTREAM: This is an audio stream of the St. Louis County Police scanners.Ferguson PDRIOT-ARIOT-BRIOT-CRIOT-DRIOT-E... ... ( http://bit.ly/1phiwDC )
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: http://www.ustream.tv/Channel/St-Louis-County-Police-Scanner
BingoBoingo: Second police car down "marked county police car fully engulfed in flames"
BingoBoingo: Oh, police may have lost a radio
BingoBoingo: Shots fired at the police department
joecool: rip police car
Vexual: where will you find a police radio?
asciilifeform: so anything you replay is a valid 'police order'
asciilifeform: i've always wondered if police radio schemes like p25 are vulnerable to replay attacks.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everyone around here calls police the 5-0
assbot: Police 10 Codes ... ( http://bit.ly/1ph83rP )
decimation: undata: the poor blacks that are constantly murdered by the police
assbot: Arkansas men file lawsuit over police encryption - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1znjqPd )
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed. it was a big fight in many areas: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/19/arkansas-men-file-lawsuit-over-police-encryption/
decimation: the vast majority of police radio systems in the us use 'apco-25'
asciilifeform: decimation: for police ?!
asciilifeform: police - don't lose.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: outcome where the police lose << what's that look like? rioters bulldoze all the way to washington ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: police scanner << lol, there's still a city where police radio is plaintext ?
BingoBoingo: This is the first time I've listened to a police scanner feed and not been incredibly bored
assbot: St. Louis County Police Scanner on USTREAM: This is an audio stream of the St. Louis County Police scanners.Ferguson PDRIOT-ARIOT-BRIOT-CRIOT-DRIOT-E... ... ( http://bit.ly/1zncO3o )
BingoBoingo: http://www.ustream.tv/Channel/St-Louis-County-Police-Scanner << Shots fired
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well none of them think that. At least not the ones who go police. Because Hollywood and stuff.
mircea_popescu: roughly the same fuckwits end up recruited by ganglords or the police, you realise. how many retarded kids think of the outcome where they get killed, on any one job ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And of course the last thing they might be considering is the outcome where the police lose.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Almost like the police want a riot << i bet you at least half the police want a riot. logically : 1) all these sweet toys they only get to play with if there's a riot ; 2) police funding depends on riots, their salaries may be on the line in all cases except if there;s a riot ; 3) these uppity niggers ? fuck them!!1 let's show em who's baws.
BingoBoingo: 30 minutes left, dunno why they are waiting this late in the night. Almost like the police want a riot http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/grand-jury-has-reached-decision-in-ferguson-case/article_3ac5a3fa-4ae0-584a-8bf6-40b2ea8c89c2.html
undata: cazalla: if I'm in the position to consider the cost of using secret police or something to get it done, I might
assbot: Police horse study: Increases trust, authors say. ... ( http://bit.ly/1y9tE7t )
BingoBoingo: The Usian Gendarmie is probably going to have a lot of horses http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/19/police_horse_study_increases_trust_authors_say.html
mircea_popescu: undata police is unmanageable in the socialist state.
asciilifeform: the 'police brutality' crap is orchestrated by u.s. lizard media. ergo it is simply a prelude to a 'sudden, brilliant, hope, change 11!111!!' 'solution' - a national gendarmerie. think 'dhs' but this time 'for real.'
thestringpuller: instead of police we should just go back to having voluntary militias
assbot: Officers again make arrests at protest outside Ferguson police HQ : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYbipN )
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/officers-again-make-arrests-at-protest-outside-ferguson-police-hq/article_de7daf03-5747-5a9f-88e8-e64c548be7aa.html
nubbins`: thanks, local police!
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-refuse-to-waive-security-guard-rules-to-meet-ferguson/article_8e6fbe20-aecb-567a-ad70-caf37db28a6d.html
xanthyos: that means police
nubbins`: "Police shoot families 137 times to get $3mm"
nubbins`: <@assbot> Families of victims killed, shot at 137 times by Cleveland Police to get $3 million <<< dat ambiguous grammar
assbot: Families of victims killed, shot at 137 times by Cleveland Police to get $3 million - newsnet5.com Cleveland ... ( http://bit.ly/1p0en75 )
mircea_popescu: cazalla is this in fact just giving the police ample room to hassle obnoxious teenagers ?
BingoBoingo: yeah. Conservation police find the cocaine... fruit of the poisonous tree, though probably still having problems.
BingoBoingo: "Conservation Police" here get to do warrantless searches.
asciilifeform: 'Had the atomic bomb turned out to be something as cheap and easily manufactured as a bicycle or an alarm clock, it might well have plunged us back into barbarism, but it might, on the other hand, have meant the end of national sovereignty and of the highly-centralised police state. If, as seems to be the case, it is a rare and costly object as difficult to produce as a battleship, it is likelier to put an end ☟︎
Adlai: such as... police forces, armies, etc
mircea_popescu: "It all traces back to the fact that the academy did not police itself properly. They gave, or through their inaction/laziness allowed to get, this guy and his (retarded) output the mantle of ‘expertise’. If the bad PR spilling off of him now redounds back onto other academicians in his peer group I understand that will be unfair in some cases but they have only themselves to blame."
mircea_popescu: why were they in the army in the first place,. to police reddit ?
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