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jfw: re GNAT, it occurs to me the better question is not "what does mp_en_viaje have handy" but "what am I going to test and require of the user and support by explaining at whatever level necessary?" Which is not a question for mp_en_viaje at all as stated.
diana_coman: jfw: listen, you do a full test-run of everything so that you can properly guide someone step by step and you know 200% what is required and at what point.
diana_coman: jfw: why don't you take the zip, do the test run and then you know and can tell ?
mp_en_viaje: honestly, the stuff pizdi's dumping in the test blog is perfectly fine. why can't you just dump the missing logs into her ?
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: I don't think it'll record line changes. Though I honestly did not test if it would break it
lobbes: currently logging to: http://test.ericbenevides.com/2020/03/forum-logs-for-10-mar-2020/
lobbes: I could bring it in now even, it just is logging to my test site
diana_coman: ... that; for illustration, here's the output from vtree and antecedents on eucrypt_oaep_fix_checks.vpatch (ran in the same test dir that can be had from here); antecedents gives the correct path genesis->ch6->ch7->ch9->ch10->oaep_fix_checks, but in vtree's output it's very hard to tell that ch10 is meant as child of ch9 rather than ...
bvt: diana_coman: fixed link; ty for your test set, i have the fix (totally my bad), which I can upload today in a few hours (as a vpatch) if you still have a timeslot dedicated to v.sh tomorrow, or if you prefer it with a writeup, i will publish it until thursday.
mod6: bvt: et, al. Was able to use alf's wedger tool to replicate the problem. It took exactly 1 try. Here's my notes and debug.log (renamed) from the test: http://www.mod6.net/wedger/mod6_wedger_test1.log http://www.mod6.net/wedger/trb_debug_wedgerpy_test1.log
mod6: asciilifeform_whogaveblox << I'm more open to comments on this one too, I don't see a big issue with it being in the tree. I'm also using this one in a test environment (for quite some time now). Haven't seen any issues with it at this time. It would need a simple regrind. Can do it this month as well.
mod6: mod6_excise_hash_truncation << This one in particular is nice, and I've been using it in my test environments for a while. I'm fine at this point with adding it in, it just needs a regrind (again). Can work on that this month.
jfw: mircea_popescu: I get the sense this is more about the user than the tool then. I'd reckon it's equally dumb to call a function with global side-effects from an "if" test, since it's supposed to be just asking a question, not "doing things"
diana_coman: billymg: I don't get why is the code separated from the rest of the text as such; for one thing the test article there for instance did not work well at all on zoom in/out in my firefox
mircea_popescu: mitigating circumstances can be applied to lighten punishment for failure, but what's the point of applying them before the test, or to eschew the test ? life's not different by virtue of mental fiction. that's what has to be done, that's what has to be done.
mircea_popescu: we actually did something somewhat like a test run for a if memory serves, hence http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-012/ trials yes
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 11:31:17 dorion_road: trinque, you've foreshadowed using a minimalist busybox system, which Gales is. Giving it a test run and writing and article about what the positives and negatives are compared to cuntoo would go a long way to help killing idiocy. If you made time to do it by jan 15, adding your insight while others are working on it would help us
dorion_road: trinque, you've foreshadowed using a minimalist busybox system, which Gales is. Giving it a test run and writing and article about what the positives and negatives are compared to cuntoo would go a long way to help killing idiocy. If you made time to do it by jan 15, adding your insight while others are working on it would help us
dorion_road: diana_coman , bvt , spyked , hanbot ,
bvt: dorion_road: comment published and answered; i can do a test run of gales after returning (20 dec)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-30 13:30:48 diana_coman: at any rate, the hour was spent: ~10 minutes figuring out the change and making it directly on my blog so that the results were clear; ~30 minutes for full vpatch process: retrieve+press current v-tree to head; make code + manifest file changes; test press of result & check + final sign; ~20 minutes for write-up + upload + overall final check.
mircea_popescu: arguably a press + vdiff + test press + sign shouldn't be half an hour, but it seems to me by now we're trying to measure the measuring tool, it's not even clear the measurement tolerance is narrower than the width of that "shouldn't". by how much shouldn't it be half hour.
diana_coman: at any rate, the hour was spent: ~10 minutes figuring out the change and making it directly on my blog so that the results were clear; ~30 minutes for full vpatch process: retrieve+press current v-tree to head; make code + manifest file changes; test press of result & check + final sign; ~20 minutes for write-up + upload + overall final check.
diana_coman: so in v time-costs and all that: changes took ~10 minutes including figuring out wtf to change (because I'm no expert in either mpwp or php) and then the rest up to 1 hour was making vpatch + test-press + write-up; pshaw.
spyked: aaand should be fixed. will test next time notifications queue up like that
mircea_popescu: in other wtf, awk does not have a native date increment ; people do insane shit like awk -F"\",\"" '{cmd="date -d \"$(date -d \""$0"\")+10days\" \"+%Y-%m-%d %T\"";cmd | getline datum; close(cmd); print $0 ",\""datum"\""}' test.csv > test-increment-10days.csv
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-20#1951619 << when I make an actual post of an article, it drops the entirety of the content I was trying to post. If I'm updating an article, it drops the entirety of additional content I was adding. Looks like your comment test behaves differently. In any case, it behaves strangely
lobbes: oh, and the whole "text running over the sidebar" issue does indeed seem local to my blog. My css is probably just borked
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-18 03:14:48 lobbes: mircea_popescu: in updates, I've got the #trilema back-logs (back to 2016-03-28) importing into my test blog now: http://blog.ericbenevides.com/2016/03/trilema-log-for-2016-03-28/
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-18 03:14:48 lobbes: mircea_popescu: in updates, I've got the #trilema back-logs (back to 2016-03-28) importing into my test blog now: http://blog.ericbenevides.com/2016/03/trilema-log-for-2016-03-28/
lobbes: mircea_popescu: in updates, I've got the #trilema back-logs (back to 2016-03-28) importing into my test blog now: http://blog.ericbenevides.com/2016/03/trilema-log-for-2016-03-28/
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949939 << nothing major, a minor bug was discovered by several mp-wp users. once it was determined that it was the result of the latest patch i was able to zero in on the offending change and issue a fix plus a test http://billymg.com/2019/11/bug-fix-to-preserve-encoded-html-characters-in-post-body-between-edits/
ossabot: Logged on 2019-07-21 08:57:32 diana_coman: hm, current vtools still don't handle move of files or what am I missing here? I made a simple test with moving one file to a different location and as far as I can see, it's still delete + create, no move
billymg: anyway, will have two patches up shortly, one for the fix and one for a test of that behavior
asciilifeform: the 2nd ed. of 'costs' piece is still on track for oct 27. but currently asciilifeform's conscience torments him, feels wrong to actually charge anyffin until i know whatthefuck it is that the upstream is worth. would like to persuade folx to test, like diana_coman .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aite. but if you did, a mp_en_viaje mirror would be a++ test of pipe.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 19:59:48 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if after all you dun need a znc , leave the thing switched on, i'ma reformat when next test pilot volunteers, until then will run trb , i want proper test of trb perf on apu1. but if you decide you want a znc, su znc ; znc -c will run promptistic configurator. then reboot, and you'll have it.
mp_en_viaje: it can be argued that this is the ~principal~ utility of www in the first place, that it permits things such as "reading trilema" only as a 2ndary bolt on. what it's for is to turn a half hour trudge into a five second job.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 19:59:48 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if after all you dun need a znc , leave the thing switched on, i'ma reformat when next test pilot volunteers, until then will run trb , i want proper test of trb perf on apu1. but if you decide you want a znc, su znc ; znc -c will run promptistic configurator. then reboot, and you'll have it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 19:59:48 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if after all you dun need a znc , leave the thing switched on, i'ma reformat when next test pilot volunteers, until then will run trb , i want proper test of trb perf on apu1. but if you decide you want a znc, su znc ; znc -c will run promptistic configurator. then reboot, and you'll have it.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if after all you dun need a znc , leave the thing switched on, i'ma reformat when next test pilot volunteers, until then will run trb , i want proper test of trb perf on apu1. but if you decide you want a znc, su znc ; znc -c will run promptistic configurator. then reboot, and you'll have it.
mp_en_viaje: i'm not against zncing through your own machine so you can piggy-back test on what you suppose is ddos (but isn't) ; but the utility to me just about zilch -- for one thing if czech tubes take a break, i'll lose the znc connection just as well as i lose the direct. i suppose it'd save on revoicing, but honestly i have that setup to be entirely painless as it is, 1s op.
asciilifeform bbl,tea. ty mp_en_viaje for taking up test pilotage.
asciilifeform prepared pilot box for mp! nao will smoke test & he can pick up when ready
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: welcome aboard then, test pilot ! i'ma bake it.
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947578 << yeah, i will definitely test, including keccak (can pick c impl. for tests)
asciilifeform: i'ma carry out test where iron can be ruled out as limiting reactant, as soon as i get chance.
asciilifeform: i'ma put in 'apu1' w/ primo samsung msata later this wk, for logger, will make it available for similar test.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: before you go back to these -- is there a large file i can wget-test with from here , in ossasepia ? i'm curious re whether oceanic pipe is limit, or the speed of the rk ssd
ascii_rack: welcome diana_coman , 1st test pilot.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: mind publishing a torture test with pics and all that too?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma test w/ own disks, and purchase fresh ones when there are takers
asciilifeform all boxen asciilifeform installs, subj. to 'torture test' before battlefield use
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-16 14:13:44 asciilifeform: still not calculated what to charge for these, and must do so quickly. i'ma give folx month 'test drive' tho, given the untestedness of the whole orchestra .
asciilifeform still not calculated what to charge for these, and must do so quickly. i'ma give folx month 'test drive' tho, given the untestedness of the whole orchestra .
asciilifeform: 1st to test that a cage in world's most batshit jurisdiction is actually livable.
asciilifeform: trinque: quick q for when you have 5m : do you know how to 'bless' usb stick into bootability ? for some reason stuck on this ( machine is known to boot stix, boots the heathen gentoo 'live' thing. but not mine, tho is set up exactly like the hdd from earlier test w/ diana_coman )
asciilifeform meanwhile single-stick installatron for dulap-gentoo; will test tomorrow
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in last weeks of dulap log , there were moar 'humanlike' activity on its www from argentines than ~anywhere else ; incl. folx grabbing FG test dumps etc. i had and still have nfi who , why.
diana_coman: otherwise yes, I had banned in on the previous smg test server and simply got on with libressl
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 16:48:02 diana_coman: aha; I actually had the mysql precise thing in one of the backups but rather deeply burried so at the time of the test I went with this mirror; but as I was saying, by default I rather tend to unplug the network cable when installing systems.
diana_coman: aha; I actually had the mysql precise thing in one of the backups but rather deeply burried so at the time of the test I went with this mirror; but as I was saying, by default I rather tend to unplug the network cable when installing systems.
diana_coman: that was test no 2 yest
asciilifeform: the item strictly-as-given is expected to function on any 64bit amd ( asciilifeform's test bed was a 'e350', circa 2010 . )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma mechanize as much of the process as is practical, but wanted to get the hand-cranked ver. out for review/test asap. hence the 'nao add 3 spoons of sugar' etc. headaches.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: can report that dev server is also built and had a test run locally with dev client; compilation there messier because of the whole stuff with gnat.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje production server & db successfully running on my local test-setup so that part at least seems all right; tomorrow I'll look at the dev server too.
diana_coman: now ofc how the fuck to "test to exhaustion" here, not like I have the full range of amd and I'm not living in a dc either, ugh.
mp_en_viaje: so, i guess 1 can lay pending for a while, see what comes of this test.
diana_coman: hm, I suppose now I'll have to test it on various amd I have around
mp_en_viaje: as things stand right now, in point of fact as diana_coman might well point out, the ~one argument available from strict minigame pov as to why even get test server there was "save on the hassle of trying to reproduce env".
diana_coman: so while I have backups of both production and test systems and code and all that, I don't really know what to aim for here exactly
diana_coman: 3. for as long as CS esp is not yet *fully* excised out of the dev/test server, that might *also * need non-Cuntoo
lobbes: trinque, sure I can test.
asciilifeform: the people who 'Just Want'(tm)(r) 'a box, 24/7, dun want to swap raid disks, or keep a greasy asciilifeform around to voltage test ps' etc. are all nao in 'cloud'.
BingoBoingo: And Imma do a test
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 16 ( 17, incl desk test bed ) rk. + a room fulla laboratory gear, such as is kept by fella who never even in nightmare pictured to run a dc.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: seems that if worth, worth to test w/ 1 or 2 pieces.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:11:48 lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942586 << I anticipated this response, but not sure how you figure utterly insane. I'm not asciilifeform nor diana_coman for e.g.; I'm still pretty "green" at programming and need to research each design phase and thoroughly test my implementations as I go to make sure it is correct. Oftentimes discover "shit, I fucked up, need to redo this part". I.e. learning as I go
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:11:48 lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942586 << I anticipated this response, but not sure how you figure utterly insane. I'm not asciilifeform nor diana_coman for e.g.; I'm still pretty "green" at programming and need to research each design phase and thoroughly test my implementations as I go to make sure it is correct. Oftentimes discover "shit, I fucked up, need to redo this part". I.e. learning as I go
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942586 << I anticipated this response, but not sure how you figure utterly insane. I'm not asciilifeform nor diana_coman for e.g.; I'm still pretty "green" at programming and need to research each design phase and thoroughly test my implementations as I go to make sure it is correct. Oftentimes discover "shit, I fucked up, need to redo this part". I.e. learning as I go
asciilifeform: for 'expendable' parking spot, almost anyffin is worth a test, imho
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 07:10:49 diana_coman: both test and production servers backups seem fine and up to date at a minimal inspection; full test means setting them up and there's the involved issue of full environment for them (versions of everything and so on); for this reason I'd say end of this week (Sun 13th) rather than "today"
diana_coman: both test and production servers backups seem fine and up to date at a minimal inspection; full test means setting them up and there's the involved issue of full environment for them (versions of everything and so on); for this reason I'd say end of this week (Sun 13th) rather than "today"
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform was provisioning a noad-capable box too, for moldavia test .
asciilifeform: ok i was wrong, in fact was missing 'sept_errata' in the test press.
lobbes: (No selection working on above test blog, so can't link to portion specifically. Though folx can laugh at my solipsistic rantings as they scroll toward the 03:00 mark I suppose)
asciilifeform: could even be by a current or potential subscriber, to test whether we even have shit together before agreeing to colo a box.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, a bot that autosyncs. but needs moar test.
mp_en_viaje: test
mp_en_viaje: test
asciilifeform: bvt: 180 appears to work (tested for coupla hrs) but may need empirical test.
mp_en_viaje: imo is better because at least creates ~a record~ of the type of problems we're solving which not only might spark refinements downstream, but will also constiute a phenomenologically blessed test set for any such refinements, permitting ~RATIONAL~ acception or rejection if/when it comes to.
asciilifeform: output seems to behave correctly in re uniturds but this again needs careful test.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There seems to be a racket where a loading with get a weird ricer name like .50 BEOWOLF or .300 BLACKOUT get some USG test firings and go on to market the round as things normally get marketed to jugalos,etc based on edgy/cool name
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 23:20:25 asciilifeform: test of action line
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 23:20:25 asciilifeform: test of action line
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 23:20:25 asciilifeform: test of action line
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 23:20:25 asciilifeform: test of action line
asciilifeform test of action line