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BingoBoingo: In too much news today: Red opposition Senator made a literary reference and paper had to include the poems in question https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/el-discurso-de-bordaberry-y-el-consejo-de-topolansky-en-discusion-por-un-feriado--201959191813
BingoBoingo: Also June 15th is now a holy day for some awful reason ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: such as nobody remembers what work is nor anything useful left to be done ?
BingoBoingo: Pretty much
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/05/blistering-choice/ << The Whet -- Blistering Choice
hanbot: cheers and accolades to BingoBoingo for helping me solve my neglected blog's hiccups on a moment's notice, btw. i don't miss pre-pizarro in any sense.
mp_en_viaje: nice huh!
hanbot: rather!
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform saw for 1st time a live mole.
asciilifeform: somehow never before saw alive, only dead. ran, as if trying to swim, with those odd things they have that pass for legs.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-10#1912244 << bastille day ?! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-10 00:15 BingoBoingo: Also June 15th is now a holy day for some awful reason
BingoBoingo: Unsure, didn't see in the story WTF the holiday was for.
asciilifeform celebrated, quietly, his national religious holiday today.
asciilifeform: i wonder if phf got to see parade. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: um, romanian kingdom day ?!
asciilifeform: mno, although lulzy if it also may 9
mp_en_viaje: may 10, crowning of carol i.
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: i still dunget why they had to mail-order a king, what, couldn't grow one locally
mp_en_viaje: definitely couldn't.
mp_en_viaje: (also mail-ordered before, all romanian princes were phanar greeks)
asciilifeform: greeks ?!
asciilifeform: i had nfi.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: relatedly, is there a royalist party in current-day ro ?
asciilifeform: perhaps they oughta try a diff mailorder catalogue. iirc jp emperor recently retired, perhaps he'd be willing to moonlight.
mp_en_viaje: in a very theoretical sense, i guess.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, the irony -- sick of istanbul greeks, romanians decided to mail order from germany. but because too smart for their own good, and possessed of a completely unwarranted pride, came up with idea to make rule that king sons to be raised as romanians.
mp_en_viaje: imported king -- excellent material, arguably best leader romania ever had.
mp_en_viaje: his successor, middling +.
mp_en_viaje: then, middling - ; and finally HORRIBLE, F---.
mp_en_viaje: the more romanian they got...
asciilifeform familiar with subj, but strictly from that likbez mp_en_viaje wrote some yrs ago
mp_en_viaje: anyway, anyway, i suppose in principle karl friedrich [of the swabian hohenzollerns] would be the current claimant to the romanian throne. but this is a fact nobody in romania is aware of.
mp_en_viaje: there's various comedians peddling various poorly written fictions, but their relation to anything is about the same, they exist on github, peripherally to computing, or on "natural health" forums peropheral to medicine, etcetera.
mp_en_viaje: there's also a bunch of (usually older) people who are fundamentally anti-democratic, who wrongly imagine this means they're "monarchists", and then further wrongly imagine this has anything to do with either of the two foregoing items.
mp_en_viaje: considering their discernment, they could just as well be persuaded it has something to do with toyota hamburgers.
asciilifeform pictures, unwillingly, a 'toyota hamburger'.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, also amusingly enough the principal anti-democratic current comes from the so-called "technocrats", ie the bureaucratic core of the european union.
mp_en_viaje: you should hear what jesuitical philipicals come out of them! how well it would be if they were just proclaimed the aristocracy already! how meritous they are! how special! how specially in communion with whatever possible statement of divinity, and how specially marked by it! how well they'd ordain all matters! equitably! how the politicians and the businessmen ruin the world! and so on and so forth.
mp_en_viaje: (i suppose ~nobody is aware, but the classical antisemitic discourse is just reheated soup, originally it was the jesuits that were poisoning the youth through miseducation, aiming to take over the world, controlled mass media and banks etc etc etc)
mp_en_viaje: philippicals*
mp_en_viaje: in other news, i bought a buncha fx amds, 9590s, 9370s, 8370/8350 ; plus their respective a3+ boards, gigabyte, assus, w/e. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: eminently these still exist ; and i daresay might be a good idea for all lords to stock up on some.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, 70-80 MBps ul/dl (via fiber to the door) sets one back ~10 bux/mo in romania. ☟︎
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: bought in ro or what?
diana_coman: re fx amds
mp_en_viaje: yes.
diana_coman adds to the list for next trip to ro
mp_en_viaje: definitely.
mp_en_viaje: the only caveat is, cpus come in 140 and 210 watt types, gotta get the adequate boards for each accordingly.
mp_en_viaje: generally the 8000s are 140
diana_coman: come to think of it, this "stock up while they still exist" has such a eulora-flavour to it..
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/05/pica-pica/ << The Whet -- Pica pica
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-10#1912285 << heh, no one ever said 'i wish i hadn't bought these vintage amd' ! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-10 10:44 mp_en_viaje: in other news, i bought a buncha fx amds, 9590s, 9370s, 8370/8350 ; plus their respective a3+ boards, gigabyte, assus, w/e.
asciilifeform prefers the ones where mobo takes ecc sticks, however
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-10#1912287 << hrm, when i was there, billboard promised Gb/s for 9 $ ! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-10 11:25 mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, 70-80 MBps ul/dl (via fiber to the door) sets one back ~10 bux/mo in romania.
asciilifeform: ( ... did that turn into 80Mb/s for 10 when actually try an' buy ? )
asciilifeform: for comparison : asciilifeform pays 100 / mo for 100 (up/down)
asciilifeform did go into a comp shop in timis. it had ridiculous prices, and shit iron. mp_en_viaje evidently did not go to that one.
asciilifeform: gypsy flea market had piles and piles of pc iron tho. however, the savages had nfi what it is and how to keep it, dumped it straight into and out of bags with old rusty wrenches, stolen doorknobs, etc. i dun think there was a single straight pin on the cpus.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819907 << subj. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-30 19:23 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_3.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_4.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis17/timis_gypsies_5.jpg
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, quite so.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, well, this is actually measured. the item is called "1000" bla bla. what can i tell you.
asciilifeform: unusually, asciilifeform's local telco actually delivers the paid-for bw.
BingoBoingo: In other news apparently Deloitte surveyed the local kiosko owners https://ecos.la/9/actualidad/2019/05/09/33176/proximo-gobierno-hara-ajuste-fiscal-segun-90-de-ejecutivos-y-gerentes/
mp_en_viaje: i don't think a romanian anything ever delivered what was advertised. like, ever.
mp_en_viaje: the government doesn't, nor ever did, either.
asciilifeform: not often in usa either, lol
mp_en_viaje is full up on "so and so tax was forever banned with terrible curse. in 1806. in 1814, ruler paid patriarch in constantinople to raise curse, reinstated tax"
BingoBoingo discovered there is one registered chlorine producer in Uruguay. Sells to the water utility at 2000 USD/ton. Exports to Brazil 66 USD/ton.
asciilifeform: hey, asciilifeform's 100 bux includes, e.g., a coupla bux of tax imposed during... spanish-amer war
asciilifeform: on the telephones of the period.
asciilifeform: ( no tax is ever cancelled in ameristan )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol!! and util cannot import back from br for 'reasons' eh
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nominal reason is that the plant still exists and would Brasil even bother shipping chlorine to Uruguay (Can't risk Industria Argentina lowballing the bid).
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: sounds like you built a new base in ro ? ( or didja get that 80Mb/s into a hotel! it did not occur to asciilifeform to try this.. )
mp_en_viaje: new base.
asciilifeform: neato
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, possible different grades tho.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Very possible
spyked: asciilifeform, I am currently downloading (from house mogosanu into slave galley in bucharest) w cca 50MB/s, where the B stands for octets. so defo works as advertised where I am
asciilifeform: spyked: there's the matter of consistency also. isp overselling bw is pestilentially common.
mp_en_viaje: i don't follow the logic ? 50 is not 1000 ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it'd be 400. ( typically bw advertised in 'megabit', so mB * 8 )
spyked: yep. it's 1000 download/400 upload (tho in truth, I never managed to fill the gigabit download pipe; whether it's my equipment or some issue with the isp infrastructure, no idea)
mp_en_viaje: spyked, so if you get 50 Mbps (and I get 70-80, no argument), how is this 1Gbps ?
mp_en_viaje: aanayways, i shall bbl!
asciilifeform: aah so mp_en_viaje measured 70-80 mB (not mb) ? then pretty great
asciilifeform: (i.e. that'd be 500-600 mb/s )
asciilifeform also bbl, teatime.
spyked: asciilifeform, they advertise gigabit, but home connections don't "guarantee" that, i.e. it may go to 900 Mbps on a good day. to answer mp_en_viaje's question: the 100 difference (or 1000 - 600 = 400) may be other home users sharing the pipe, QoS policies, peering or simply natbox not being able to process (typically, the home media converter/router they provide is shit)
spyked: so the 1000 is just marketing, no argument there.
asciilifeform: spyked: aah so it's one of ~those~ , 'x mb/s if neighbours are asleep'
asciilifeform: most of what's offered in usa, is like this.
BingoBoingo: Well, less people in the US leaving their local isp hubs now
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, mega bytes
mp_en_viaje: and yes, i guess it's closer to $9, 40 lei.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/05/automattics-wordpress-com-purges-dissident-blogs/ << Qntra -- Automattic's WordPress.com Purges Dissident Blogs
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in poetry appreciation, "E Roma-n flacari, în lacrimi si-n macel, caci Cezarul o stie mai rea si decât el ; e vinu-n cupe de-aur si sângele pe scara, desfrâu de vin-nauntru, desfrâu de sânge-afara... Dar astfel precum este: bizar si criminal, Neron e încercarea de-a fi original.
mp_en_viaje: "
mp_en_viaje: approx, "rome's in flames, in tears and in slaughter, for the Caesar knows it worse than even he himself ; the wine in golden goblet and blood upon the stairs, debauchery of wine within, debauched blood without... but such as it is, bizarre and criminal, Nero's the attempt at being original."
asciilifeform: eminescu ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i would have said 'god's gift to piz' -- but seems like 100% of the afflicted idjits haven't half the brain of a fucking toad
asciilifeform: and will simply go to another usg.hoster
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see if you can find what remains of the subj d00d, write to'im.
asciilifeform: ( iirc at one time he linked to my www... why, i never found out )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Banging my head into this wall for the next few hours
BingoBoingo: "You set up a decent website? Better make sure its in a foreign land and one which isn't subject to US/EU powers. Better avoid using major payment processors because they will shut you down whilst you're at it." << Fuck You I'm already in Uruguay
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: try an' make it clear, 'no payment processors' etc
asciilifeform goes back to own head bang wall, which is slowly yielding
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, nah, fellow macedonski
asciilifeform: 'кто сказал что бесполезно / биться головой о стену? / хлоп на лоб глаза полезли / лоб становится кременным' (tm)(r)
mp_en_viaje: and re the brains of toad : various dorks explained to me why "tjhey don't recommend amd".
asciilifeform: ahahahaha
asciilifeform: the ones selling the irons?!!
mp_en_viaje: fucking mortidifame, romanian rottinculo, "don't recommend". can even lead to bsod!!!