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jurov: hm, i'm slowly abadoning hope that the glbse passthroughs will ever be resolved
jurov: next option for coinbr seems to buy eurorail ticket and make talks about mpex/coinbr everywhere
jurov: although i'm horrible in convincing people :/
pigeons: maybe you need a pr girl
kakobrekla: hehe
mircea_popescu: <jurov> next option for coinbr seems to buy eurorail ticket and make talks about mpex/coinbr everywher << i like this idea
jurov: hehe... don't happen to have gf, and no one will do that for free
mircea_popescu: gf ?! i thought you swung the other way.
jurov: nor bf
mircea_popescu: a couple years ago i made a contest on my blog. people could comment with their address, get a stack of business card sized stickers
mircea_popescu: then if they sent pictures with them put up somewhere they'd get some moneyz
mircea_popescu: lemme see if i can dig it up
jurov: i was trying to be a OVB financial agent some 2yrs ago and i realized i'm really horrible at sales
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/3709.html
mircea_popescu: that's the thread with ppl posting pics
jurov: dunno. i have talked with some of my entrepreneur friends and even got a response like "you look like typical coder, they don't do this... shouldn't you rather find a job?"
jurov: asshole
jurov: but if that's really an impression i make to ppl... :/
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to do exactly ?
jurov: to have some meaningful volume on coinbr
mircea_popescu: well that's not exactly something for cold calling is it ?
jurov: :D
jurov: nor distributing stickers
mircea_popescu: well that was for the blog obviously.
mircea_popescu: but listen jurov, i think you being or not being a salesman has very little to do with it.
mircea_popescu: it's easy to forget what a horrible time for btc finance we're going through. in the past THREE months pirate, hasking, nefario, harnett and a dozen more idiots raped the innocent public quite raw.
mircea_popescu: i'd be much surprised if fifty of the few hundred/coupla k glbse "investors" are still in the market today.
kakobrekla: im in the market but theres not much to play on really
jurov: on the other hand, i raised 65BTC via btcjam already... that's much more coinbr has ever seen
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of those will ever get repaid.
jurov: so i guess at least some bitcoins are around
kakobrekla: at least 65 of em
jurov: haha
kakobrekla: well i have a few 100 btc players since we are talking bout it
mircea_popescu: jurov may also be a matter of process
mircea_popescu: guy lands on your site. what's the landing page ?
jurov: "about" text
mircea_popescu: make a proper register button
mircea_popescu: who were we discussing earlier, bitpay ?
mircea_popescu: https://bitpay.com/ look at their page
mircea_popescu: slut, bitcoin, coupla words and a large green button
kakobrekla: no boobs.
mircea_popescu: maybe upper side tops
mircea_popescu: no nips
jurov: okay, can do. but i suspect something else too. quite a number of peeps registered, but never sent anything
mircea_popescu: o ?
mircea_popescu: i rarely get that.
kakobrekla: well i was expressing that in a sad tone. sorry it didnt come through.
temp_kluge: At least, the stupid-wealthy investors appear to be out. I don't think anyone will be offering me 1kBTC without even having terms established for a long while...
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: say wut ?!
temp_kluge: Or maybe they bought in early and everything after making back the $5k they spent to acquire 10kBTC+ was a gamble for amusement.
mircea_popescu: this boggles the mind. do you imagine anyone is giving you money ? why ?
temp_kluge: Soon after Pirate defaulted, I was offered 10kBTC "when" he returns it. No promissory note or anything. People were ridiculously trusting during Pirate's reign.
mircea_popescu: yes, inexplicably at some point you had credit.
mircea_popescu: then again, a bunch of idiots had credit at some point, through the sheer blessing of "being there".
temp_kluge: Now, people want to know "what's my money being used for?" "Where's the notarized promissory note?" "Where do you work?" -- you have to actually work for money. :(
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla is this a troll ?
kakobrekla: lol good question
temp_kluge: Naw.
kakobrekla: proove it
temp_kluge: I've had MPOE-PR on ignore since the second time he/she/it PMd me back in something like May.
mircea_popescu: well seeing how the dilemma is troll or idiot, seems hardly worth proving.
mircea_popescu: http://www.iwearyourshirt.com/ i wonder if something like this'd be worth doing for bitcoin
pigeons: kakobrekla: is there MT4 for linux?
kakobrekla: i dont think so
kakobrekla: vm is your friend
mircea_popescu: but whai!
kakobrekla: cause people are stupid.
kakobrekla: didnt you see that jewtube link?
mircea_popescu: I SAW ALL OF THEM
mircea_popescu: except that one!
smickles: ;;lucky poliboobs.jpg
gribble: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/
smickles: mircea_popescu: you've lost the top spot!
smickles: ... to the miami herald political page?
mircea_popescu: aww!
mircea_popescu: ;;lucky poliboobs
gribble: http://politits.blogspot.com/
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: a, you have to do img search
mircea_popescu: not plain search
jurov: what are obama, paul and blair doing there?
jurov: bin laden, bush, clinton there too.. veritable who's who
jurov: thatcher isn't there... suspicion confirmed
mircea_popescu: huh ?
jurov: nor hillary
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27290 @ 0.00050198 = 13.699 BTC [+]
pigeons: what a tease
mircea_popescu: i still can't quite wrap my head around it, was kludge just here whining about how you have to work to get btc now ?
pigeons: seemed like it
mircea_popescu: teh interwebs be boundless in their bounty.
thestringpuller: i will make a fart joke for 1 btc
thestringpuller: jk
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: would you invest in a film via btc?
thestringpuller: take dat as a no ;)
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i invested in a few films, but never wihtout knowing the producers
mircea_popescu: and sampling the stars.
thestringpuller: that's so hollywood "sampling the stars"
thestringpuller: "I will give you the part for 10 blow jobs"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you should invest in fringe science
mircea_popescu: what's that ?
thestringpuller: crazy futuristic science
thestringpuller: like time travel
thestringpuller: or interdimensional travelling
mircea_popescu: meh.
thestringpuller: science never fails
pigeons: or magnets
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> "I will give you the part for 10 blow jobs" << that;s really not how it works.
smickles: How do they work?
smickles: :P
mircea_popescu: it's not a count issue. it's a matter of making sure the girl is personable.
mircea_popescu: "Other related people (smickles) are behaving quite good, and we had useful discussions over support email."
mircea_popescu: the man says.
mircea_popescu: did they manage to produce an explanation in the end ?
smickles: not yet
kakobrekla: urlpls
mircea_popescu: why do scammers always behave in this particular manner.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1343748#msg1343748
mircea_popescu: o im sorry kakobrekla, were you asking for personable girl url ?
kakobrekla: well now that you mentioned it...
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135328008984.jpg i would call this personable.
kakobrekla: i would not disagree.
mircea_popescu: hallo dedis18
smickles: How am I considering that article of clothing a skirt?
mircea_popescu: what else is it, a hat ?
smickles: Maybe it's just a headband, and she's wearing it wrong
mircea_popescu: any belt wider than two inches made of textile material counts as a skirt if around the waist.
mircea_popescu: rule #34857-F
mircea_popescu: btw smickles, the thing about blogging is that you always suck at first
mircea_popescu: but if you manage to stick with it for a few years, writing daily or so, you'll notice impressive improvement.
kakobrekla: that last line holds true for most of stuff
mircea_popescu: sex ?
mircea_popescu: it does hold true for oral and anal, if you're a girl. anal especially.
smickles: mircea_popescu: did bitvps stop issuing monthly reports?
mircea_popescu: not afaik ?
smickles: their website stop at july, the listing on mpex says that they may also be roported on bitcointalk, but i can't find them
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: better ask rg about this
mircea_popescu: ;;seen rg
gribble: rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <rg> wow, i guess you showed us.
mircea_popescu: mm
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell rg <smickles> mircea_popescu: did bitvps stop issuing monthly reports?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
smickles: i pm'd him and grubles
smickles: the've kept up on dividends tho
mircea_popescu: any answer ?
smickles: not yet, it's only been a couple of hours or so
mircea_popescu: a ok
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.08387781 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;view
gribble: #11746 Sat Nov 17 17:08:46 2012 smickles SELL 900.0 Trilema Credits @ 0.1 BTC (None)
smickles: ^for serious
smickles: man, the robots love my blog
smickles: they've visited over 200 times in just a couple of days
smickles: and when do we have to stop suffering posts like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126617.msg1344102#msg1344102
smickles: " I'd say we got 2 to 4 months tops to do something about the 21 million bit coin cap"
smickles: oh
smickles: s/have to/get to/
mircea_popescu: So I've decided to get into mining with a couple of decent laptops
mircea_popescu: lol /thread
smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126630.msg1344347#msg1344347
smickles: mircea_popescu: ^
smickles: damn
mircea_popescu: wtf ?! that actually works ?
smickles: *disclaimer, i'v not, at all, looked into the authenticity of those claims
smickles: wild
mircea_popescu: afaik stuff only propagates if it's positive
mircea_popescu: "We will never end poverty if we don't tackle climate change. It is one of the single biggest challenges to social justice today," Kim told reporters on a conference call on Friday.
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck ?
mircea_popescu: who put those fuckwits there. i don't want to end poverty and i piss on social justice omg wtf
smickles: well, kim is a dumbass
smickles: who is kim?
mircea_popescu: some korean i guess
smickles: can i short kim?
smickles: actually...
mircea_popescu: i dunno, but if you shoot kim...
smickles: can I pump and dump kim :)
mircea_popescu: anyway. kim is the president of the world bank
smickles: :o
mircea_popescu: which i dunno how the fuck he got
mircea_popescu: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/world-bank-climate-change-report_n_2156082.html sauce
smickles: I guess i am shorting kim
smickles: ya know
smickles: there is one surefire way to end poverty
mircea_popescu: As the first scientist to head the World Bank, Kim has pointed to "unequivocal" scientific evidence for man-made climate change to urge countries to do more.
mircea_popescu: Kim said 97 percent of scientists agree on the reality of climate change.
smickles: ignore climate change, bake the planet, kill all humans
mircea_popescu: dude, 97% of ppl called "scientist" in the media are monkeys.
mircea_popescu: smickles known as the poincarre argument.
mircea_popescu: "the end of human suffering can never be a policy goal because the easiest way to achieve it is to just kill everyone" ☟︎
smickles: woah, man, i'm a bit drunk for that right nao
Namjies: So I get it the common good interest fews...
smickles: call it the skynet argument
mircea_popescu: Namjies there is no "common good" other than in the populist discourse.
smickles: ;;ident Namjies
gribble: Nick 'Namjies', with hostmask 'Namjies!~BTC-Minin@modemcable065.181-83-70.mc.videotron.ca', is identified as user Namjies, with GPG key id F2758D83EEEDE453, key fingerprint F12DE6B4E1EF26F5768BE918F2758D83EEEDE453, and bitcoin address 1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk
mircea_popescu: anyone speaking to the common good is a fraud.
smickles: no wai, using your otc name?
mircea_popescu: i like the videotron.ca part, he's like a hardcore gamer :D
mircea_popescu: smickles : poincarre gets precedence cause of being french, president and 1800s
smickles: I saw that when we tried to play monopoly, thought it was bad ass just from the form of it (aesthetics)
Namjies: I'm not saying what many you hear ain't bollocks, especially when it comes to "facts" about the environments, people's condition, etc. being easy to check out as false.
mircea_popescu: Namjies how about forcing everyone to move to TOXIC mercury-based lighting under the pretext of "helping the environment"
mircea_popescu: tho it doesn't help it, it just makes poor countries unable to export lightbulbs
mircea_popescu: which were exactly at their technological level, a good stepping stone to development
smickles: at least it's cheaper if they last as long as they claim for the end user
mircea_popescu: "scientists agree". fuck them, 97% of them have nothing to do with science, they just agree and get funding and agree more and get more funding.
smickles: (throw a couple of commas in there will you)
mircea_popescu: smickles except they don't last longer.
Namjies: Yeah, what I'm saying, not do that if you don't believe it's going to help.
mircea_popescu: they last less, and then they create piles of mercury.
pigeons: plus the light from those toxic cfl things is awful and depressing
pigeons: and yellowish
smickles: I can use mercury tho
mircea_popescu: im still using fillamets
smickles: at least for fun
Namjies: I'm talking merely about avoiding of negatively impacting people in general when you can and are aware of it.
mircea_popescu: and bought massive stocks
mircea_popescu: Namjies ya well, nobody's arguing about that.
pigeons: yeah i stocked up on good lightbulbs, i learned my lesson, made a killing on regular flow toliets
Namjies: Well [00:21] <mircea_popescu> who put those fuckwits there. i don't want to end poverty and i piss on social justice omg wtf
mircea_popescu: pigeons srsly ?
smickles: fuckit, screw this planet as hard as we can, we need to get off this rock anyway
Namjies: Could be misinterpreted
mircea_popescu: Namjies i guess so. but i don't want to hurt them either, i just don't want to end poverty. that's all.
mircea_popescu: i am against all action when that action doesn't have a moral and legitimate profit reason.
pigeons: mircea_popescu: yes, where i live about 15 years ago they mandated "low flow" toliets that take 2 flushes, and the old ones are selling for several hundred dollar premiums and i've sold out
Namjies: not the fuckwits, they might well be. Both side tend to exaggerate and pull statistics out of nowhere.
mircea_popescu: pigeons heh. sounds like ny.
smickles: fear of poverty must motivate some good that wouldn't have otherwise arisin
pigeons: north carolina
smickles: fuck NC
smickles: it was a bad place to live
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only thing i like about romania is that none of this shit took any hold (yet)
mircea_popescu: there's a ban on fillament lightbulbs ? they're sold in the stores. fuck you, eu.
mircea_popescu: there was a ban on exporting gas to serbia ?
mircea_popescu: everyone was doing daily trips there to sell gas.
smickles: that's ballzy
mircea_popescu: not rly.
pigeons: yeah in usa regular lightbulbs can't be sold starting some date in the future, i dont know if thats changed or what
Namjies: there's a ban on fillament lightbulbs in Europe?
smickles: mircea_popescu: natural gas?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: smickles no, gasoline. car fuel.
smickles: oh, nvm then
mircea_popescu: funny enough tho, diesel was at a premium (cause of tanks)
mircea_popescu: but most people moved gas.
Namjies: Odd...
mircea_popescu: The first types to go are non-clear (frosted) bulbs, which are off the market since September 2009. Also from September 2009 clear bulbs over 100W were made of more efficient types. This limit was moved down to lower wattages, and the efficiency levels raised by the end of 2012
pigeons: you mean when there is market intervention there are consequences and unintented consequences?
mircea_popescu: i am currently basking in the light of two 200W clear fillament lightbulbs
mircea_popescu: and actually, inspired by this discussion i think ima buy a few more tomorrow.
Namjies: Well I don't particularly like fillament lightbulbs but heck, I don't see a problem with them.
pigeons: bitbulb.com, coming soon to mpex
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: these nitwits.
mircea_popescu: every time the girl blasts some dubious operation to hell there's a string of bs "attacks" on polimedia
mircea_popescu: like, automated acunetix or w/e it's called that thing
mircea_popescu: ./././././././././. etc
mircea_popescu: can't the script kiddies just get together, compare notes and engage in bro-love instead ?
pigeons: yeah i'm sure the same scan will be looking for cold fusion and asp as well
mircea_popescu: it is. and for windows ini
pigeons: so subtle
mod6: lol cfm ftw
mircea_popescu: and patently retarded shit like cat passwd
mircea_popescu: - - [18/Nov/2012:15:42:40 -0500] "GET
mircea_popescu: /fain/comercial/..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2fetc%2fpasswd
mircea_popescu: he literally has a literal etc in there.
mod6: clearly a bromosexual
Namjies: You want misfits that have found no better way to spend their lonely time than looking to damage web properties to SOCIALIZE and SHARE thing?
mircea_popescu: Namjies i bet you it's butthurt forum people who figure in their own mind they know shit.
mircea_popescu: AND WILL PROVE IT TO ME
mircea_popescu: the only irritating part is that after they fail they don't consequently get assraped by a velociraptor.
mircea_popescu: this lack of dire consequences for failure is getting on my nerves.
Namjies: No, but seriously, they have to share, or they wouldn't have got their hands on their scripts in the first place.
mircea_popescu: well then can't they share that the stuff dun work ?
pigeons: no that isnt important to them, they just add the failures to things to try
mircea_popescu: typical 16yo dickery, except 20 years ago they were telling stories about the women they fucked.
Namjies: It apparently works sometimes.
Namjies: Just not so well when you want to attack a specific server.
pigeons: nope. worked sometimes 10 years ago
mircea_popescu: pigeons i want the old west back. you pull your gun and miss ? you'll be missed.
mircea_popescu: he's right Namjies, i did a piece on it a few days ago. people were trying stuff literally patched in the 2005 edition of asp.net
mircea_popescu: against a linux machine.
pigeons: it comes about from not having to have any discretion i think. "oh i'm using some wndows botnet, who cares if i lose it". also oh i'll run a tool from someone cared so little about they made it public, and is used for people who don't care about stealth they are using it on their own servers
mircea_popescu: well ya, and that lack of discretion isn't born out of the complete lack of dire consequences for failure ?
mircea_popescu: we live in a spam culture.
pigeons: yeah
mircea_popescu: once kids realise that the worst that can happen if they say something stupid is nothing at all they can never stop yammering.
Namjies: If you scan at large for machines to hack, I'm sure some guy with a single website on a small machine has not updated since then...
mircea_popescu: Namjies im pretty sure these are directional.
mircea_popescu: i can tell by a few pixels and also the very particular time distribution
pigeons: also they scan for shit from 2001
Namjies: Yeah, well as I said, those scripts don't work so well when you want to attack a specific server.
mod6: Attack Mode: Weaksauce
Namjies: But you know there's a few businesses out there that update their software every 20 years or so. An that's almost not an hyperbole.
mircea_popescu: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/14/article-0-140E5A33000005DC-550_964x984.jpg
mircea_popescu: quick quizz : what profession did Delphaline, aged 17 in the pic go into ?
mircea_popescu: a. world bank president
mircea_popescu: b. oil field worker
mircea_popescu: c. las vegas.
mod6: It blows my mind that any machine that exists on public IP space currently, and is in a legacy OS setup wouldn't already be compromised.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i have one that runs sarge.
mircea_popescu: why'd it be compromised ?
dub: a lot of it will be old bots cut off from the c&c but still scanning
mircea_popescu: who pays the power bill?
dub: why wouldnt the bill be paid? server is still sitting there doing its job, its just doing another job too
dub: lost count of how many times I've heard 'we got a security expert in to fix it'
dub: who either did nothign at all or patched the hole but left the infection
mircea_popescu: that may be it yeah.
mircea_popescu: reminds me of the fallout2 intro.
Namjies: eheh, old bots, forgotten by their hacker and still in use by the business. That little unkown process just sending odd requests outside.
mircea_popescu: their souls, mingled into the background radiation...
mod6: haha crap. my laptop batter died -- shutting downmy box ...
mod6: one sec.
Namjies: Fallout 2!
dub: I had a box get botted many moons ago via ssh bf and a retarded user
dub: imbarassingly I only noticed because I had too many connections to undernet suddenly
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: the soul of discretion.
Namjies: I have to play that game again.
dub: tracked it to some romanians
mod6: oh anyway, just saying how there are so many random attacks from bots etc. many winders machines get pwned if not updated on the regular
mircea_popescu: Namjies fallout 1/2 rocked. pity they fucked the franchise later.
mircea_popescu: dub shocking.
dub: i know
Namjies: I had some fun with the Fallout Tactics one but really not the same thing.
mircea_popescu: not at all.
mircea_popescu: was more like a civ
mircea_popescu: you ever played the xcom thing ? was before fallout
mircea_popescu: shooting alien invaders.
Namjies: Nope
mod6: bbs
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO:_Enemy_Unknown
mircea_popescu: was back in the early 90s sometime
dub: xcom: enemy unknown, yeah they've jsut done a new one
dub: one of the best games ever
mircea_popescu: i didn't much like the 2
mircea_popescu: and stopped trying after that.
Namjies: Early 90s? I mostly know of NES games
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21417 @ 0.00050215 = 10.7545 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6478 @ 0.00050218 = 3.2531 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Kongzi beta-8 is over 10,000 SLOC. Not LOC, SLOC.
mircea_popescu: who the hell is proud of having written MANY lines of code ?
mircea_popescu: if someone told me gcc is eighteen lines i'd be impressed. eighty million... sounds like windoze.
Diablo-D3: 10k? thats not much
Diablo-D3: dm is like 2k
kakobrekla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdR_fHr_6Eg
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: when did this clown started to code?
EskimoBob: he has serious problems adding 2 numbers or getting a simple function right in spreadsheets
EskimoBob: now he is coding a world best web site? SolidCoin was almost as delusional as this guy
pigeons: http://www.cryptoxchange.com/blog/21/crypto-x-change-suspending-trading-and-returning-client-funds
jurov: great. i s'pose intersango is next.
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: cryptostocks will live on or no then
jurov: cryptostocks seem to be linked to vircurex, not to cryptoxchange
EskimoBob: and here we go again. another exchange bites the dust. At least people do not get glbsed
jurov: that remains to be seen
EskimoBob: correct
EskimoBob: "we will be...." and everyone gets fucked
jurov: coincidence? http://www.northlandbitcoins.com/
jurov: hi usagi
jurov: dn't you plan to release these 10k of SLOC (not LOC) open source?
jurov: just i am, cause i'm very curious, how such deadly serious business is coded
jurov: there must be some very enterprise-y techniques involved there
jurov: i'd ask average american
kakobrekla: ;;getrating kakobrekla
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User kakobrekla, rated since Fri May 13 15:50:53 2011. Cumulative rating 85, from 49 total ratings. Received ratings: 49 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 50 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=kakobrekla
jurov: you mean you have a generator of noncorrect answers?
pigeons: usagi what is the difference between LOC and SLOC?
pigeons: do you have a lot of comments usagi?
EskimoBob: LOL, I guess this guy has no idea wtf "process management" is and how to use it
jurov: dunno, this needs some clarification " you know that all the answers which are wrong are false"
pigeons: jurov: have you never read sherlock holmes man?
jurov: you mean the computer can evaluate truthfulness of sentences?
pigeons: i am sure the Schenectady Light Opera Company is thrilled you donated 10k btc
jurov: and you did it alone over a weekend, I s'pose?
jurov: this? http://renli.wordpress.com/kongzi/
pigeons: if the professional coders duplicated it with half as many SLOC would it cost half as much?
EskimoBob: lol
pigeons: will you hire me for a per line project?
EskimoBob: using modern tools and actual experience and knowledge of programming, it can be done for 1/10 or less
EskimoBob: " a per line project" LOL, sure.
pigeons: ok, hire me for the most expensive language
pigeons: let's do the same thing but with a different language. Let's try chinese or something
pigeons: oh ok, let's do one that teaches woodworking then
EskimoBob: did you really teach English?
pigeons: how much would you sell your $300,000 program for?
EskimoBob: first grade or second grade?
pigeons: do those count as SLOC?
pigeons: i've worked on some big projects, but my part was quite small
pigeons: You should add "in the cloud" to your site. It will be cooler. Learn japanese in the cloud
EskimoBob: you had 6
EskimoBob: world wide clients
EskimoBob: users
EskimoBob: what ever
EskimoBob: 6 members worldwide? yes it is
pigeons: that's great. are they paying?
EskimoBob: but you hardly speak it yourself
pigeons: that's the beauty of this system Bob
EskimoBob: how can you teach something you have no knowledge?
pigeons: you just tell it what is false, and the computer figures out the rest
EskimoBob: OO that's cool
pigeons: usagi: can we use the program to teach karate?
EskimoBob: like you did in 2003? https://www.google.com/search?q=usagi+%22Oliver+Richman%22
pigeons: bob i am much more subtle
EskimoBob: is Serena better?
EskimoBob: or is it Appledog?
EskimoBob: same shit over again https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.martial-arts/ly5cmb5i8bc/aBX3EztwQ4YJ
pigeons: usagi what is your first name by the way? Mine is Dan
EskimoBob: usagi: you are right. I am really bad troll. I am actually not even worth the "troll" name
EskimoBob: usagi: no i do not but I can probably shoot you down from 400 meters :)
EskimoBob: or 1 m, if you like
pigeons: wait i thought you weren't oliver?
EskimoBob: or just kick your ass with one hand
EskimoBob: i did my study of tao with Mr Norris
pigeons: so you post to r.m-a, and people write songs about you, but you aren't the oliver who posts there and people write songs about? which one are you?
EskimoBob: I am a coder. I am writing a fkn cms from 2001, based on 80's code - fkn fabulous, It will be the best karate teaching page on the world
Diablo-D3: >80s code
Diablo-D3: cobol or fortran?
Diablo-D3: is it bigger or smaller than a breadbox?
EskimoBob: who knows memvola?
pigeons: i met her once or twice
EskimoBob: Diablo-D3: big like a fkn house
EskimoBob: her?
EskimoBob: i hope not usagi
Diablo-D3: wait, why would anyone name themselves memvola?
EskimoBob: it is better with out wankers like you ;)
Diablo-D3: thats the esperanto word for willing
EskimoBob: usagi: we all know that by now.
EskimoBob: and you have been kicked out from multiple forums
Diablo-D3: real life.
Diablo-D3: since 2001? lol
Diablo-D3: Ive been Diablo-D3 since 1991.
pigeons: usagi: were you born female?
Diablo-D3: ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: Persecution Complex
Diablo-D3: pigeons: usagi wasnt born female, you know how I know?
Diablo-D3: no female can resist my manlyness.
EskimoBob: wtf are you blabbering usagi, you promised to leave and do what ever you do when you are not trolling bitcoin community
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00050218 = 12.4541 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <EskimoBob> now he is coding a world best web site? << maybe he's pasting stuff from the interwebs
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> will you hire me for a per line project? << yes. five cents :D
kakobrekla: comments included?
PsychoticBoy: OMG the saga continues
Diablo-D3: 5 cents?
Diablo-D3: jesus
Diablo-D3: wait, what sort of line? java line or perl line?
kakobrekla: im counting on comments.
kakobrekla: oh great even blank lines count.
Diablo-D3: SLOC meansno comments or blank lines
Diablo-D3: doesnt mean I cant use abusively weird formatting though
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121622.msg1344982#msg1344982
mircea_popescu: kinda related.
kakobrekla: hrm
kakobrekla: >but the most common definition of physical SLOC is a count of lines in the text of the program's source code including comment lines. Blank lines are also included unless the lines of code in a section consists of more than 25% blank lines. In this case blank lines in excess of 25% are not counted toward lines of code.
Diablo-D3: well
Diablo-D3: the real sloc method is just using sloccount
pigeons: anyway it would cost professionals $300K to write that many SLOC!
mircea_popescu: ffs srsly, who came up with bragging about this ? the only time sloc/loc is relevant is if you're trying to determine how much old pos code will cost to maintain
Diablo-D3: never try to do it by hand
mircea_popescu: they're a liability not something to be proud of
Diablo-D3: pigeons: how many?
pigeons: Diablo-D3: usagi said $300K
Diablo-D3: no how many sloc
kakobrekla: i dont give a fuck im just trying to get payed for excessive commenting.
pigeons: 10000 SLC
mircea_popescu: paid.
Diablo-D3: 10k? wtf.
kakobrekla: paid
Diablo-D3: I've done 10k in a fucking weekend
Diablo-D3: people need to learn how the fuck software development works
Diablo-D3: no, thats just you mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: tbh, i prefer the thigh and i don't think i've done fifty lines yet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7022 @ 0.00050218 = 3.5263 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13628 @ 0.00050219 = 6.8438 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30066 @ 0.00050219 = 15.0988 BTC [+]
jurov: hahahaha
temp_kluge: Could someone remind me what the gribble command is to do lastseen? I thought it was ;;lastseen username
kakobrekla: ;;seen gribble
gribble: I have not seen gribble.
temp_kluge: Thank you
temp_kluge: Oh. guruvan hasn't been around in a long while.
temp_kluge: Someone bored and wanna see if they can ssh into
jurov: i can't
jurov: at leas not port 22
temp_kluge: That's the port # I tried.
temp_kluge: But I didn't know if it was my mobile tether of 44kbps fucking up or not. :)
temp_kluge: Anyway - that's the address which came up for GLBSE. Maybe Nefario is really worried about the legality of releasing asset info.
jurov: what does it have with ssh?
temp_kluge: Idunno. Futzing around, wondering if Nefario may've left everything wide open to evade liability.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121622.msg1345365#msg1345365
mircea_popescu: the forum delivers.
Namjies: Hey, if it was Mad Max, would sound fine, but it's a *MAD* Mad Max
Namjies: Proof: He wants to accept Paypal for a bitcoin casino?!?
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is,
mircea_popescu: he's all pretentious and talks shit to mpoe-pr ?!
mod6: lol first bitcoin casino on the internet my ass
mircea_popescu: nono you don't understand
mircea_popescu: unique snowflake mode ENGAGE
mod6: haha
mircea_popescu: btw mod6 there's something i wanted to talk to you about. we could like, make this site right ? except not really a site, more like some servers
mod6: and yeah, .onion bitcoin casinos were pretty awesome in mid-2011, at least playable anyway.
mircea_popescu: and then people could connect to them and chat.
mircea_popescu: it would be the first chat system on the internet
mod6: not just text either, and then seals with clubs
mod6: thats regular intarweb tho
mod6: oh.
mod6: right on.
mod6: i used to run a silc server back in the day.
mod6: we all liked it a lot -- its all encrypted by default, etc
mod6: could be an interesting multi-node network or something that could be apart from openprojects
mod6: err freenode
mircea_popescu: wasn't the encryption weak tho ?
mircea_popescu: in silc i mean
mod6: im not sure it was weak -- per-se...i remember it being based on asymmetric algos
mircea_popescu: i have but vague recollections.
mod6: i'd have to look quick --- haven't looked at it in some time... there might be something better if that's kinda what you were gettin at.
mircea_popescu: The SILC implementation of its own spec is poor in that it is vulnerable to weak authentication which undermines any strong encryption it might have. For example, it is impossible to differentiate between two users whose keys you have verified before. If you verify these two user’s keys, and one of those users decides to impersonate the other one, SILC will happily continue without even mentioning this appalling situ
mircea_popescu: ation.
mircea_popescu: ya right i was.
mircea_popescu: https://we.riseup.net/riseup+tech/problems-with-silc
mod6: ahhh
mircea_popescu: i never used it, but i recall vaguely it was because tech gave it a neg report. this was years ago
mod6: yeah, i guess I was using it like prior to 2004
mircea_popescu: funny how ancient that is huh.
mod6: anyway, there are other ways if that's the overall goal though
mircea_popescu: im relatively happy with otr tbh.
mod6: hhaha, ikr! like 100,000,000 internet years
mircea_popescu: not that i need that much secrecy anyway. da fuck are they gonna expose, my private flirting with internet womenz ?
mod6: haha. i thought perhaps some of the auth stuff could be built into a sortof OTC login model we're doing with gribble...
mod6: i dunno, just a thought of a different way to get everyone auth'd on the same host with their keys without having to rely on a bot or 3rd party app
mod6: food for thought i guess. right now though, it works pretty krad. :]
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious how wot2.0 will be so
mod6: yeah, that'll be awesome
mod6: be back in a min here...
pigeons: mircea_popescu: any word from harnett's employers
mircea_popescu: not so far actually.
mircea_popescu: which seems kinda odd. but hey, give them a week or w/e
mircea_popescu: in other news, both cryptoexchange and intersangro are closing, pretty soon we'll be exchangeless at this rate.
Namjies: mircea, somehow, when trying to do a MKOPT, it returns "You need at least 0.00000000 BTC to cover these."
mircea_popescu: Also, fair warning - next week I'll be travelling to Macau, the gambling capital of Asia, to present at a gaming conference. I'll be showing SatoshiDICE to many people, including gambling entrepreneurs and business men.
mircea_popescu: It is possible that certain business deals could happen as a result of this trip. If you were considering buying shares of S.DICE, you may want to do it quickly. Who knows what a rich Macau gambling magnate might think of a system which allows wagering in any amount, from anywhere in the world, anonymously...
mircea_popescu: says evoorhees
mircea_popescu: Namjies that's odd...
Namjies: Aye, thanks
mircea_popescu: Namjies : retry.
mircea_popescu: (desync with trade db)
Namjies: odd... tells me I need much more than expected
Namjies: isn't put option strike/spot?
Namjies: and fee 2%?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00050221 = 18.0796 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: no, it's not / spot. it's / some risk adjusted value
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5222 @ 0.00050225 = 2.6227 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6499 @ 0.00050229 = 3.2644 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8629 @ 0.00050232 = 4.3345 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: close to the average tho.
mircea_popescu: so it shouldnt be MUCH more than you expect. maybe a little more
Namjies: gives me 10% extra (excluding 2% fee)
Namjies: looks pretty high a fee
smickles: http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/
smickles: for your reading pleasure :D
smickles: mircea_popescu: You're going to be the guy presenting sdice to Macau?
mircea_popescu: nope ?
mircea_popescu: i'm too old to be going for these tricks, getting arrested in macau and whatnot.
smickles: oh, you were quoting someone then
mircea_popescu: Namjies it wouldn't be a fee tho, the fee is 2%. the collateral oyu get back.
mircea_popescu: smickles evoorhees
smickles: that make sense
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1345687#msg1345687
Namjies: eh, sorry, extra collateral
Diablo-D3: well
Diablo-D3: it took me two days
Diablo-D3: but Ive rewritten half of diablominer and modularized the internals
mircea_popescu: Namjies prolly best idea is to do very small bits first, get a good feel of how it works.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126616.msg1344098#msg1344098 umm.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130N] 214 @ 0.25593421 = 54.7699 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: I can't stop with the satoshidice. That game is evil. I really thought I was going to hit "big" one day. Every time I would hit big, the standard would raise until I lost control. Big became bigger. I was paying every loan off quickly and was satisfied with the profits + 10 to 20btc.
Namjies: I understand how it works...
Namjies: I wasn't aware the collateral was adjusted
Namjies: By such a big margin
pigeons: beta options at weexchange.co are also 10%
Namjies: lol... I had funds loaned to Lurk on BTCJam multiple times
Namjies: I had them all repaid however
mircea_popescu: btcjam debt = 92.25btc
mircea_popescu: there kakobrekla, that's 100 btc that won't be repaid.
mircea_popescu: pigeons o, they're doing options ?
pigeons: mircea_popescu: yes
mircea_popescu: cool.
pigeons: just started, still testing
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu not my money.
mircea_popescu: all i see is a login page. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla was re Nov 19 00:35:52 <kakobrekla> at least 65 of em
Namjies: Well, at least he's honest about it.
mircea_popescu: Namjies that's a point.
mircea_popescu: he's not even so bad in the hole, coupla hundred btc big deal. he can make that in a month.
Namjies: If he had a job. He's unemployed apparently
mircea_popescu: Total Transactions 12445
mircea_popescu: Total Received 16161.82241607 BTC
mircea_popescu: Total Sent 16161.82093528 BTC
mircea_popescu: holy fucking cow
mircea_popescu: he's under by like... 1% ?
mircea_popescu: that's nothing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4860 @ 0.00339922 = 16.5202 BTC [-]
pigeons: your pumping is working
mircea_popescu: hahaha cool.
mircea_popescu: (i was pumping ?)
pigeons: ;)
Namjies: Great. Sold a few options
Namjies: There's nice PUT bids right now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8500 @ 0.00339922 = 28.8934 BTC [-]
Namjies: Many 5-15% margin on PUTs for next month
Namjies: With the reward halving coming up
mircea_popescu: you figure price drops in dec ?
Namjies: No, raise.
Namjies: Or keep stable at least
mircea_popescu: o, selling puts. yeah.
Namjies: There's thousands of bids for puts with 0.05 - 0.15 BTC over their current execution value
Namjies: A good net against a price drop and if price stay stable or raises with reward halving, the margin could increase.
mircea_popescu: next month ? sure.
Namjies: Well honestly, I'd always feel much safer going with selling PUTs for over their execution price
Namjies: price sometimes drop but eh
mircea_popescu: selling puts is a pretty reasonable way to protect yourself if you have $ and want btc.
mircea_popescu: (if the price drops you lose on the puts but can buy the btc cheaper. if not you make btc)
Namjies: Aye
mircea_popescu: which actually i guess is a position many people are in.
Namjies: I don't see why those PUT bids stay around for so long
Namjies: On another note, apparently, bASIC is shipping...
mircea_popescu: "An estimated 84 percent of coinstar users are women". Not going to comment on this one.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean stay around ?
Namjies: That people don't sell into them. I barely see any volume.
mircea_popescu: Nov 18 22:02:22 <assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88032553 = 880.3255 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sorta thing
Namjies: Yeah, there's a few
Namjies: But not much compared to all the bids available
Namjies: especially for the ones expiring next month
Namjies: which have higher margins
mircea_popescu: well i don't much expect the bot getting sold out
mircea_popescu: in fact the situation this month where calls got wiped is singular, never happened before.
Namjies: smickles
Namjies: About qualifying Bitcoin as a ponzi because it advantages early adopters.
mircea_popescu: lol. fucking hell, when you'rte born people already have dollars
mircea_popescu: then you have to work to get them'
mircea_popescu: PONZI
Namjies: Has anyone brought the stocks arguments yet? With example such as the $10000 Microsoft stake bought at IPO example?
mircea_popescu: i don't think many people give two shits about wikipedia
Namjies: But in any case, the article says Bitcoin has been accused of being a ponzi... not that it meets the definition of a ponzi.
Namjies: Which is, technically, very true.
mircea_popescu: well by this measure Bush was accused of being a reptillian
Namjies: I don't see any problem with that saying.
Namjies: You can say something is anything, and then go around saying that something has been accused of that anything.
Namjies: The accusation is a fact. If what you're accused of is true is not a fact.
mircea_popescu: ya well not all this spam is worth the mention i'd think.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17171 @ 0.00050232 = 8.6253 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8674 @ 0.0005024 = 4.3578 BTC [+]
pigeons: lol at people telling the compulsive gambler he should try willpower and what he needs to do is "just say no"
smickles: jeebus, connection issues
smickles: Namjies: yes
smickles: ^ re: < Namjies> Has anyone brought the stocks arguments yet? With example such as the $10000 Microsoft stake bought at IPO example?
mircea_popescu: pigeons he can do anything!
smickles: < pigeons> your pumping is working << naw, if anyone one it was me :P
mircea_popescu: you were pumpin ?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126703.msg1345683#msg1345683
mircea_popescu: fucking scammer heaven
smickles: eh, not really, but remember i pointed out teh 1% gain possible
smickles: at dividends