mod6: speaking of wot ratings. i gotta go through and update mine one of these days.
mircea_popescu: somehow the soviet and soviet likes didn't annoy me nearly as much.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-30 16:11 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything.
mircea_popescu: it's entirely unclear to me what exactly "bank" expects to make money out of.
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, the government gives. but otherwise ?
mircea_popescu: i've not been using the much for years now, and can't say i noticed the absence.
ben_vulpes: haw i've been renting the train station's vault for months now
ben_vulpes: lock was removed long ago, but gorgeous door remains
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: remains of previousl $bezzlecorp assetes
ben_vulpes: also you know, brick and excellent atmospheric thing
ben_vulpes: far cheaper than storage unit anywhere accessible
ben_vulpes: thrown in for song with hole where the few remaining used desks stand
ben_vulpes: "i'll take the vault for $pittance, but only if you discount $butthole by $similar_pittance"
mircea_popescu: a really ? then what the fuck do you hang on to used furniture for. no party rental outfits where you live ?
ben_vulpes: sloth, similar pittance for storage unit across town.
ben_vulpes: vault not particularly full of anything but monitors and computers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the usg is desperately trying to achieve said refrigeration through trying to shoot people who trade it.
mircea_popescu: lol for new year i dun recall which, took girls in chains to floor -3, poured champagne / fucked them among the scary concrete. was a blast.
ben_vulpes: thing also does not have smoke detectors
ben_vulpes: great place for cigars and cognac after the sun sets
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technical floor, where various machinery livese etc.
ben_vulpes: amusingly, was previously haunt of "bigfoot researcher"
mircea_popescu: it's quite... quite the thing for the sorta chick that loves big boots.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 04:02 ben_vulpes: more specifically, "assuming one wants a car shop for purely emotional and recreational reasons, how to determine what to pay for it?" "calculate hardware liquidation price, discount four years of cashflow declining by 10-30% a year to today, and offer a dime over that"
mircea_popescu: now quick to firesales to buy more shit to weigh down your pockets!
ben_vulpes: eh, i'll settle for jewing my little brother down over the nsa backdoors in his gaming rigs
ben_vulpes: well he's liquidating them for a reason, neh?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: far from free, but the new party is a good one.
ben_vulpes: i still trek into town, but more for hysterical raisins and camaraderie.
ben_vulpes: log cabin not yet built; train station operators pay for heat and a/c.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> they also had a 2tonne safe, for some reason , in the back, and willing to let it go for cheap. but asciilifeform has neither flatbed nor crane nor concrete plinth. << Such things can be rented, ~300 - 700 for combination for whole day
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: makes the pacific northwest sound like a not entirely miserable shithole, the place where you live
ben_vulpes: me neither, but i still happily tear up lawns, emplace shitboard sheds
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i haven't got 1 surface that wouldn't auger in under that thing, and that includes the mud liquishit that is the 'yard' << Maybe you want have vault so it augers and sinks? Self burying treasure chest!
BingoBoingo: Or self burying trash dumpster, take your pick
BingoBoingo: Set in yard, build outhouse over, when ground threatens to overtake door close and leave gift for archaeologists.
BingoBoingo: Gotta put future generations in their place and discourage grave robbing somehow
ben_vulpes: oh gee fluffypony actual bandit now, eh?
shinohai: Appears no one reads src ... twas commited on shithub
☟︎ jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 02:04 shinohai: Appears no one reads src ... twas commited on shithub
shinohai: Well despite the fact it took me what felt like eons, i did read ref client src when I started fiddling with trb.
shinohai: Might cut into the reddit posting time
shinohai: "Mom sends down tendies @ 7pm sharp, can't ready during THAT hour."
shinohai: A frozen chicken tender lovingly heated by Mom in the microwave before opening the second bottle of vodka.
deedbot: buenosaires voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: andav voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: holding this vulnerability secret is doing such wonders
ben_vulpes: > (such attack did not exist, but it seemed a fair explanation).
Framedragger: just HN things - on google home (the "send all audio to google" appliance): "I have one, it's convenient and lets me control my home in what feels like a natural way. Personally, I don't see the downside of having it. Note; I mean I don't acknowledge a downside from my perspective. I'm fully aware that it's always listening and sending data home when it hears a keyword."
Framedragger: "According to Google, it will only send voice data back when it hears the keyword. Now if it explicitly goes against its own stated privacy policy, that's a breach of trust I would not be happy with. That said, if they explicitly stated they send all audio back, I'd actually be fine with that too."
shinohai: I see this making the n-gate roundup for the week
Framedragger: srsly :D ("i trust the back alley guy to only give me the tip; it wouldn't be nice if he wasn't honest about it. but if he said he'd fuck me in the ass from the get go, i guess that's ok")
☟︎ shinohai: At least you know to stock up on lube beforehand, ammirite?
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 02:10 asciilifeform: !~later tell ave1 your mod-exp is just an... exp. and what was mcarry for ???
ave1: Line after FZ_Mul should have been: Carry := C or Carry or W_Mux(0, MCarry, 1 and FZ_Get_Head(E));
ave1: Plus I assumed modulo was to be on the FZ size, arbitrary module would involve a IDIV at the end (or mask if module will be some power of 2)
ave1: I've been working on SQR, but although I can lower the number of steps, the operations per step go up, so far only 10% overall speed-up
deedbot: moli_ voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 11:24 Framedragger: srsly :D ("i trust the back alley guy to only give me the tip; it wouldn't be nice if he wasn't honest about it. but if he said he'd fuck me in the ass from the get go, i guess that's ok")
mircea_popescu: problem of modernity is nobody wants to listen. that nobody has anything to say worth listening to is obviously sufficient cause for that ; but the nobodies in question would much rather approach the problem from the former horn than the latter. good god, having something to say worth listening to sounds like it'd take effort.
mircea_popescu: way the fuck easier just pretending like the hairspray tubes are REALLY mics. google makes this easy now.
mircea_popescu wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if all this "big data" utilization is 0.0000 ppm.
ave1: asciillifeform: ah, I understand I will do some more thinking on this, having a div after the mul and sqr would be less ideal, but an arbitrary modulo sqr and mul would be interesting
mircea_popescu: so the whole hiding song and dance has nothing to do with anything.
ave1: Yes, I understand, it would add n bits times m ops where n is 4096 at the minimum (already the pow takes a lot of time with the MUL and SQR in there)
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 22:08 asciilifeform: 'This year, I’ve been thinking about prime numbers, and my hosting provider has run another sale on domain names. So, I’ve bought isthisprime.com. You can probably guess what I’ve made it do.'
mircea_popescu: incidentally : "define *' so that modx(a * b) = modx(a) *' modx(b)" should be a legitimate abstract algebra approach.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i imagine he means that it overflow between the exp and the modular steps.
mircea_popescu: also incidentally : what is the relation between arbitrary modulo, factorization, and reducing mults to adds ?
mircea_popescu: what ~else~ can i predict, and looking at what exactly inside the two factors ?
mircea_popescu: 4 * 5 mod 6 = 4. (6-4)*5 mod 6 = 4. 7*5 = 35 mod 6 = 5. 1*5 mod 6 = ...
mircea_popescu: deride, deride, but half the world's magic works on this!
mircea_popescu: i wasn't thinking of anything specific, past the indeed kindergarten intuition that there's more to the triplet than we figured out.
mircea_popescu: look at the euler curve all you want, it dun satisfactorily resolve it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re other point : i dun believe there is such a thing as an autodidact. everyone that knows anything learned that thing, themselves. no one can learn outside of an environment, and there is no deeper relevancy to convention of the time than that -- convention of the time. dude who learns in dark room is going to be weird one way, girly that learns in room with other girlies and teacher is going to be weird the other wa
mircea_popescu: y. one tends to go around naked and slather peanut butter on himself, the other tends to behave as if the panties were glued on, there's really no substantial difference.
phf: i'm getting a weirdest behavior on mac. a dumped lisp image with executable payload: when call it from shell "directly", i.e. ./foo works fine, but when you call it "global" i.e. it's in path and you say foo it responds with "read_mach_o_header: Bad file descriptor"
phf throws stacks of notes, walks away from computer
phf: asciilifeform: that would be the first guess, but `which` disagrees
phf: in fact!!! $(which foo) works
mircea_popescu: do you need diff permission sets to run global vs directly ?
phf: no, theoretically there shouldn't be any kind of difference at all
phf: nope, recompiled the binary from different file, new name, etc. same result. it's something about how cmucl packs an executable
mircea_popescu: my most frustrating experience in this vein was back in dos dies, one of those maxtor 40mb, dick-tall drives. which i thought properly immortal, at the time.
mircea_popescu: had a sorta-bad sector, kept fucking with me until it finally died hours later.\
mircea_popescu: remember those things ? more steel on them than on today's toyota.
phf: it's when certain kinds of harddrive clicks permanently trigger a sense of dread in you
mircea_popescu: phf costa rica has a bird, does the EXACT FUCNING NOISE
phf verdict: "not moving"
mircea_popescu: there's also an insect that sounds EXACTLY like a dying fan
mircea_popescu: there's also a bird that cackles, literally. so we'd be fucking or talking or w/e, and the bird is a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
phf: you sure it's not one of them wayward sisters?
mircea_popescu: dude! the ro guy, ex-con ex-pm ? actually published my comment. color me impressed.
shinohai: Perhaps the macho can be balanced with a dose of `rico suave`
mircea_popescu: was pm for a few years. anyway, he wrote some derpage about "the state", and i wrote a scathing comment.
mircea_popescu: nah, that was ion iliescu, president. they teaqmed up for a while though.\
phf: you know, the weird sisters, hand in hand, posters of the sea and land
mircea_popescu: i have no idea about this whole thing! wut is it phf ?
phf: the three witches from macbeth! i always imagine them cackling. so you're walking around the street, hear cackling, which is a kind of call of inevitability, you shake it off like "begone, chimera, must be some weird beard, nothing else" but you ~know~
mircea_popescu: it's not an ominous cackle at all. more like bird is literally amused at our bs and losing its shit.
mircea_popescu: it is perhaps the definitive difference between genders, that man would love nothing more than for woman to do something useful while he fucks her.
mircea_popescu: this question allows multiple answers. but basically, suppose trump actually was traian basescu. then clinton WOULD be in jail.
mircea_popescu: what for ? well, for being a contemptible low life. plenty of shit to convict her of, if you actually were to apply you know, "the iron hand of teh law" that black dudes with a nickle bag keep running into.
mircea_popescu: in this specific case, for taking a bribe in the form of some electoral campaign materials some other dudes gave some other dudes in exchange for what some other dudes did.
mircea_popescu: but anyway -- was a major victory for the us dept of nuland, because thsi was the first time local aristocracy actrually got the black treatment. guy took it verypersonal, tried to shoot self, had a hole in jaw for a while.
mircea_popescu: which is why i even bothered pointing it out to him, "you fucking idiot, you're STILL defending "the state" wtf is wrong with you."
mircea_popescu: eh, he's a pasty. wtf does he know about guns or shooting them.
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of losers who imagine these objects are a sort of holy amulet, and the only reason they dun do anything is because "they don't want to", but if "one day" they "decided" to "use them" then WHAM!
mircea_popescu: not so different. guy's nickname, "bombonel". approximately, "little candyboy"
mircea_popescu: well, there was this ro version of le canard enchaine ; it was really good. for half a decade or so, absolutely mandatory reading. some shit in there i laughed at for days.
mircea_popescu: they kept calling him that. possibly on some grounds, but i never fucked him myself so...
mircea_popescu: it has no culture, no history ; it has no business class, no anything. what exactly would they say ? compared to whom.
mircea_popescu: no culture. nothing can "catch on" in any meaningful sense. romania is a nation, the us is a sort of india.
mircea_popescu: soviet jokes also "didn't catch on", which became a joke in itself -- teh georgians dun understand all these muscovy joeks!
mircea_popescu: otherwise, inside given cultural space, shit catches on. but no dominant one in us like there was in su (yes, the aspie 14% keeps trying to pretend, but ain't nearly the same thing).
mircea_popescu: (but, worry not -- "climate change" activism is there!)
mircea_popescu: basically, they're not afraid. this bodes well for fiat o.O
ben_vulpes: well it took months, but the shannonizers have finally figured out that #bitcoin-assets doesn't have a voice model
mircea_popescu: just what perpetually lazy greeks & co need --- bout time for another "marshall plan".
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: just the typical "inflate inflate!" if you remember that guy
ben_vulpes: the actual lolz are fluffyponzi ignoring "hey, gonna make that 'monero blockchain integrity scan' reproducible?" in favor of "we had to keep it secret because other cryptonotes were vulnerable"
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-05-24 13:14 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "I’m all for filth but on my terms, bucko." << they can't quite figure it out lol. the ~only~ "on my terms" woman gets is if her terms happen to (silently!) coincide. otherwise... it's the dogs. << Seriously
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has to come out of a script at this point
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 15:53 ben_vulpes: the actual lolz are fluffyponzi ignoring "hey, gonna make that 'monero blockchain integrity scan' reproducible?" in favor of "we had to keep it secret because other cryptonotes were vulnerable"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm just doling rope out over here
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure that's right, they literally don't give a shit about anything that's further out than lunch break / takes more thought than lulzpic etc.
mircea_popescu: sure. well... 300 years ago it was "chartered companies".
mircea_popescu: "for a purpose so secret no one may know what it is" etc.
mircea_popescu: can't even argue with it. in their environment, it dun pay to care. what's gonna happen, gunman shows up massacres the lot ? hurr, not like ~anything their brains could come up with'd help in that situation. what other environmental pressure do they encounter ? nothing surmountable. if the corp trough has pepsi that day, they can stand on fuckiong head won't get coke. "company policy".
mircea_popescu: the result of making all possible change, even the most dismal and unimportant, mindboggling expensive is a large set of cows. they dun care. why shouyld they care ? while the oats & hay lasts they eat and foal ; once it ends it ends. that's all.
mircea_popescu: conceivably someone in the eg donner party went over to the cattle, to tell them that they're fucked, feed's running out, etc. if they did, there was certainly no observable change in cattle behaviour. the fuck were they gonna do ?
mircea_popescu: cow finds out how to walk on two legs, extract ore, smelt metal, build helicopter, fly over to californy come back with another bushel of oats ? what is this, supercow al rescate ?
mircea_popescu: well yes, the thing is weak in all articulations, including that one.
mircea_popescu: which takes us right back to the kako lulz. i was sitting with girl earlier, idly observed "check out that dork, argentina was too far for him. china -- not. what the fuck is wrong with people." and she explained. "you know what it is. bitcoin went up. you're thinking, eh, he made hundreds, what does he care. he cares -- because he mostly sold them as he got them, good little soviet."
mircea_popescu: then they worry about ~my~ bitcoin income. i suppose cows also worry about human dwelling -- no large salt rock in livingroom, how do those poor people live!
mircea_popescu: anyway, the only reason this is lulzy is because (different) girl estimated him incapable of going further than a few hundred miles for cultural / mentality reasons.
mircea_popescu: which was the thing, back then, "of course he's not going -- to ag or anywhere else. too far from home, country boy."
ben_vulpes: in other peak oil news, fuel inventories filling again.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 13:11 mircea_popescu: and if mp organises a conference there's going to be a conference and if he does not there's not going to be one and if we need an isp how about mp makes it and so on and so forth up the fucking wall.
mod6: do the disassembled module parts look how you'd expect them to look?
mod6: i.e. is the compiler adding bloat that you didn't expect?
☟︎☟︎ mod6: apparently ada also allows inline-asm. who knew?
ben_vulpes: > No seeds were lost but the ability of the rock vault to provide failsafe protection against all disasters is now threatened by climate change
ben_vulpes: so you dug a hole in a mountain and called it an impregnable vault
ben_vulpes: and then it flooded because you didn't actually call the actuaries and ask how likely the permafrost was to melt in the next millino years
☟︎ ben_vulpes: omfg the willful ignorance and self-deception.
ben_vulpes: well pay 10x up front for a thing that works, or 1x for a thing that appears to work so long as we don't move too far from initial conditions.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 18:57 asciilifeform: there is no money, in modern usg reich, in SOLVING a problem
trinque: christ, the "lets be proactive about global warming" thing takes the cake.
phf: “failsafe“ even the article puts it in quotes
trinque: moral obligation to shoot anyone who begins "seeding atmosphere with reflective whatevers" or meddling impulse of the day
ben_vulpes: "seed vaults" are like people who "just want titanium bitcoin keys"
ben_vulpes: no buddy, you are now in the business of maintaining computronium/gardens.
trinque: all flavors of cowardice begging mother to remove all possible failures, death mostest.
trinque: asciilifeform: the observation that these make monsantos cum, absolutely.
phf: you'd think, in an engineering project, rather then a political one, an incident like that is a welcome opportunity to go back to drawing board and attempt to address the deficiencies of current design
☟︎ phf: i think if not for an implicit whiny political message, it could've been a nifty long now project. if nothing else, a seed repository for museum purposes. it would be, for example, interesting to observe natural mutations that might take place from now till the vault is consulted
☟︎ ben_vulpes: i was laboring under the delusion that it /was/ a long now project!
phf: there's no aha, we're talking about inert seeds. mutations happen as part of selection process in reproduction cycle
phf: when i said mutations, i meant the iterative selection stuff. i don't know how well the seeds store, and if they don't, then there's not much of a point to the whole thing.
☟︎ phf: well, it's a mythological device
phf: well, i think mythological devices are not inherently bad as long as they have some aesthetic value to it. problems is most of these projects are mythology for progressive bureaucrats, so they are fully stripped of aesthetics and only have implied didactic value. sort of like a church with an angry god, but no awesome transcendent
phf: lol good luck with that
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 17:37 asciilifeform: 10 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 18:23 asciilifeform: think accident??
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, NOBODY to date, and outside of us, nobody at all ever conceived of using digital computers for cryptography. period and full stop.
mircea_popescu: ics are these things that go into the fridge so you can play mario while figuring out what to take out of it.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 18:48 mod6: i.e. is the compiler adding bloat that you didn't expect?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 0**0 = 1
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 16:23 mircea_popescu: btw, you know the famous case of buridan's ass yes ?
mircea_popescu: anyway : some people say it's not for the people to shoot theresa may. i disagree.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:08 phf: you'd think, in an engineering project, rather then a political one, an incident like that is a welcome opportunity to go back to drawing board and attempt to address the deficiencies of current design
mircea_popescu: good thing they included femvoices in the public sphere.
danielpbarron: 0 to the 0 is indeterminate, as in it could equal anything depending on what the limit functions are that get to 0
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:12 phf: i think if not for an implicit whiny political message, it could've been a nifty long now project. if nothing else, a seed repository for museum purposes. it would be, for example, interesting to observe natural mutations that might take place from now till the vault is consulted
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it was when i went to hs, but i figured they've progressed past that
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:23 phf: when i said mutations, i meant the iterative selection stuff. i don't know how well the seeds store, and if they don't, then there's not much of a point to the whole thing.
danielpbarron: apparently Euler argued that 0^0 should equal 1 on the basis that n^0 equals 1. also, my ti-89 says 0^0 = 1
mircea_popescu: yes, but could equally well argue it should equal 0 on the basis that 0*x = 0.
danielpbarron: but that's a weaker argument to make since there are zero terms
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:41 asciilifeform: there is, however, a logical (if you will) component . there's a school of thought among lizards - normally ted turner is the name that comes up, but only because he afaik was the only unabashed, publicly confessed adherent -- that it'd be nice, from lizard pov, to physically exterminate the (actual) free world
danielpbarron: zero times itself zero times, as in... there is nothing at all to multiply
mircea_popescu: well... by the same argument raising to the 0th power is no raising to any powers ?
danielpbarron: it is not controversial to say that 1^0 equals 1. that is one times itself zero times
mircea_popescu: moreover, the strong argument is ex nihilo nihil. n ^ 0 is validly something, but 0 processed in any way can't properly make anything besides itself.
mircea_popescu: n ^ 0 is practically speaking the mathematical notation of aristotle's prime mover. "before anything, everything was one."
mircea_popescu: anyway, danielpbarron original approach, ie with limits of functionals, is imo also the correct one. and in this perspective f ^ g when both f and g ->0 is properly undefined.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this isn't a business transaction. i dun give a shit who suffers from math.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to humor you and with absolutely no dispositive intent : let f(x) = 1/x ; let g(x) = 1/x*2. let x ->n. 0**0 = 1 implies x -> 1 when x->n.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ie, ANY error, no matter how justified, IS, exactly, ~exactly~ equal any other.,
mircea_popescu: there isn't in math a possible classification of errors. any one is sufficient to "prove" all others.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you gotta see what goes for 300k in cr
ben_vulpes: "we'll even throw this shitty kia in for another 10k!"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 300k buys a cr palace compared to pdx hovel
mircea_popescu: ironically, while cr is in fact just about that, it has better services than argentina. or the us, for the most part.
ben_vulpes: nfi what property goes for in miami, utterly uninterested in fl.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's not terribly expensive, let's put it that way. not a steal either.
ben_vulpes deeply suspicious of steals in any case
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whores. restaurants. clubs. bars. you name it -- anything that dun has to do with govertnment.
mircea_popescu: supermarket here regularly has 3-4 people working at bagging / ferrying my groceries to car when i visit.
ben_vulpes: is it typically piped sewage or septic?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ever told you about the time i traded color tv set for flat in condo ?
mircea_popescu: yeah. sold for i dun recall, 30k i think a few years later.
ben_vulpes: ohyeah also how is computronium procurement pipeline in cr?
mircea_popescu: did i tell you about rthe mango-pineapple jam i made ?
mircea_popescu: plus cane sugar and fresh vanilla bean. very strong femobedience aura.
mircea_popescu: but in other wtfs, meteorologists report it already rained here 30% more than average for the whole month.
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mircea_popescu: he doubles every day ? since when, a coupla months ago ?
shinohai: Obviously, all that Bitcoin hasn't allowed him to afford courses in say, web design.
ben_vulpes: holy shit mx revolutions are going for five hundred dollars
shinohai: These idiots revolutionize everything.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: mx revolution was the only mouse that i ever actually liked
☟︎ ben_vulpes: upteen-zillion configurable buttons, and two scrolly-bits
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mind you i developed this opinion when i lived in illustrator indesign and friends
☟︎ shinohai: Oh ... my bad ben_vulpes .... I saw `mx` and immediately thought "Mexican Revolution"
shinohai: When you refered to an object of the hardware variety.
ben_vulpes: hey if i could buy a revolution in usa for 5 grand i would
shinohai: Fuck, I imagine MP would fund the whole thing and tell us all to keep our bits to purchase popcorn with.
mircea_popescu: want a good $item find an old $item final age of glorious socialism is upon us huh.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: covered this in g5 and honda threads tho
ben_vulpes: in other holy shits i never knew: "jfli A descendent of Rich Hickey’s pre-Clojure work on the JVM."
deedbot: JonDough voiced for 30 minutes.
JonDough: thx. Got little to say though. I may use lots of words, but
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 21:26 ben_vulpes: shinohai: mx revolution was the only mouse that i ever actually liked
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 21:27 ben_vulpes: mind you i developed this opinion when i lived in illustrator indesign and friends
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 21:30 mircea_popescu: want a good $item find an old $item final age of glorious socialism is upon us huh.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 18:48 mod6: i.e. is the compiler adding bloat that you didn't expect?
shinohai looks at contact list, finds few not0dumb people outside this forum.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck anyone would be on a "committee" is beyond my meagre imaginative powers.
mircea_popescu: somehow twisted "ethics" into justifying the practice.
mircea_popescu: "oh, you mean you want me to work for $institution for free ?" "yes, it's prestige!!! you realising any portion of the value you add would make the value you add worth less--for us!"
mircea_popescu: if i consult as to what stupid whore random idiot should not marry, i expect him to pay for the fucking drinks.
deedbot: juscamarena voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, /me was at very upscale italian place today, fine food, good service, one large table (16 people). all men. no women. ALL wore jeans. which prompted to look around. EVERY MALE THERE wore jeans. some, ouright denim+timberlands construction yard fare.
mircea_popescu: from what the girls report, the prevalence of adult male who owns nothing beyond jeans and tshirts is 30% or more.
juscamarena: yo,bamb0u is like the dumbest follower of you that I know of, pretty funny to watch him babble around haha
shinohai: I need one of those, my local store doesn't have. Must manufacture myself I suppose.
mircea_popescu: not so hard to make ; purchase parts separately -- some assembly necessary.
shinohai: The assembly is the best part! :D
mircea_popescu: entirely unsurprisingly, adriana salerno aka
https://www.bates.edu/mathematics/faculty-staff/salerno-adriana-j/ is some random whore from venezuela who a) has no research to show for the food and board "patriarchy" gave her and b) wishes to scold people who fed and clothe her for free because "they aren't doing enough", while she herself is not catching first flight back to caracas to be raped into the dirt like all the othe
mircea_popescu: r ~exactly identical dumb whores who didn't have the chance / utter and unmitigated priviledge of being picked out of the gutter by self-hating libertard.
shinohai: Sounds like a female thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: (bates, fwiw, is a "liberal arts" place. not sure why they pretend to a math dept.)
mircea_popescu: but recently been getting major $$$ from all the pantsuit supports desperately trying to avoid outright dekulakization.
mircea_popescu: as per my lights, genuine dumb broad braying her stuff.
mircea_popescu: i'm not particularly against. very little more amusing than obviously tenner-a-blowjob latinos derping about how they found some loser and hurr durr.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: configurably detenting!
mircea_popescu: for what it's worth, married whore fare is always one of two : either how much money her husband is making, or how little say he has in things and matters.
ben_vulpes: besides, once one learns to use a non-detenting wheel, detents are offensive.
ben_vulpes slowly grinding away from mice in any case
ben_vulpes: scroll wheel itself clicks as you spin it omfg you troll
mircea_popescu: i pgup the terminal. i generally don't use the mouse to select text, except in some circumstances, and even then only to land. ctrl-arrow etc toi actually select. and i dun much cad, nor can i stand it.
mircea_popescu: i suppose i don't actually use the mouse that much huh
ben_vulpes: way upstack, asciilifeform didja see the hickey pre-clojure "jfli" stuff?
ben_vulpes: and does not do restarts and condition handling? that i have not yet verified myself
ben_vulpes: eh, man needs a shovel to take care of shitpile.
ben_vulpes: eh, i find it funny that he went from doing stuff in cl to the clojure fingertrap
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 17:46 ben_vulpes: in other peak oil news, fuel inventories filling again.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 18:58 ben_vulpes: and then it flooded because you didn't actually call the actuaries and ask how likely the permafrost was to melt in the next millino years
mircea_popescu: i can't explain it outside of fundamental alienation. dude can't pick up in bars like normal people, figures he wants this crap ?\
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:15 asciilifeform: dna rots 'in situ', while not being copied, just as in the usual process.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:43 asciilifeform: 'unsexy', slow, 'boring' methods, e.g. mcdonaldization
shinohai: aha! I opened the page before being called outside to survey the garden.
shinohai: Seems you did pruning of your own!
shinohai: The glorious Republic, where many eyes will ensure not a single spelling snafu goes unnoticed.
mircea_popescu: might be the most-read text. seeing how people actually read.