mircea_popescu: stupid fucking idea. the web shouldn't have been more luser friendly ; and linux shouldn't have been more luser friendly. nothing should ever be luser friendly.
mircea_popescu: it's friendly to the government, which is the fundamental luser in all places.
mircea_popescu: iirc you were last pushing that notion here. and it didn't go far.
mircea_popescu: aite. well i'm not terribly clear on what the idea is, but i also kind-of grew tired of clipping the junctures for sense, so i dunno.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 13:28 mircea_popescu: like what ? something like amd fx 9500 is, i bet, way ahead anything apple ever put in anything they made.
mircea_popescu: iirc the "legal engineering" thing was an abortive attempt to "build upon" the "genius" of the "viral" gpl.
mircea_popescu: this was a massive dork wank thing a decade+ ago, where the zeks figured they're like totally owning society and the legal system and whatnot.
ben_vulpes: 3rd hit for me querying for "we are the bridge between lawyers and engineering", but that's probably beyond the (s)cope(ing ability) of their filters
ben_vulpes: yeah well i wanted to see how good the filter was, not how bad the search was.
ben_vulpes: hey subject of perens, and then pixar, ritholtz' interview with lawrence levy is a romp
mod6: warmed up, now its raining and freezing. slicker than a minnow's dick out there.
mod6: oh yah. lol, could hardly walk down the driveway.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: afraid not. never had a problem with good ol' fashioned winter tires. or pick-up truck if need be. honestly not even sure what you'd use socks or chains for outside of the acreage.
ben_vulpes: eh i don't really fancy swapping tires every season, 'tis a 1-week twice-a-year sort of thing.
pete_dushenski: swapping tires isn't such a pain if you have them mounted on rims. but another whole big expense for that obv. the socks look neat. expensive ?
pete_dushenski: given that the machines are $5-10k if you avoid the robocoin scamzors, and that commissions are ~8%, that's none too shabby if you can keep it up.
mircea_popescu: nah, iirc they threw the machines out if they dropped under 2-3k, and thgat was years ago
pete_dushenski: all you have to do is refill cash and coins for $5k/mo. have half a dozen machines around a city and you're doing well.
mircea_popescu: all you do is watch insurance premiums soar ; and all sorts of little inconveniences of that nature.
mircea_popescu can't imagine anyone prices/treats these any differently from slot machines.
pete_dushenski: machine owners ? landlords with machines in their buildings ?
mircea_popescu: police departments with machine in their precinct, etcetera.
pete_dushenski: can't speak to insurance premiums, but one of the other quiet costs is dealing with noobtards wanting to buy/sell $20 of coin and can't figure out how to tie their shoelaces much less work slot machine
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: never heard of police taking pause with bitcoin atms around here
mircea_popescu: don't tell me canada is special and you don't have a police ransom racket somehow.
mircea_popescu: well yes depends where. if you put the bitcoin thing in your shed in mississiauga nobody'll bother you. literally.
pete_dushenski: really, the prairies are bizarelly, truly insanely above boards.
pete_dushenski: cops think they're carrying on the rcmp legacy. might bang some hookers or move some drugs but not shaking down small businesses.
mircea_popescu: aite then, i guess there must be some nooks and crannies where the 1k machine makes sense.
pete_dushenski: ya, i just happen to be in that spot. skews perspective.
pete_dushenski: these 5% yoy prop tax increases will come to an end, and when they do the budgets will start getting trimmed from above and replaced from below.
mats: TIL all of WoW's GUI is driven by XML and Lua
mircea_popescu: "I am a female incel. In 3 weeks I will be a 25 year old virgin. A socially anxious, insecure, overweight, suicidal, complete failure. I'm going to die a kissless virgin. I will always be poor, always lack traditional beauty, always be an obtuse person. Intelligence and grace will never come naturally. And despite years of positivity about myself and with some idea that I was unique and beautiful in my own way, I realize-- th
mircea_popescu: at was denial and delusion. I am a genetic mistake. I'm a complete waste. I am disgusting. Here to forever be the "duff" (designated ugly fat friend). Equivalent to a pet dog." << riight, and i'm supposed to provide the gallons and bushels of wsod required to make this pass as in-character, somehow ? how!
☟︎ thestringpuller: mats: yea. that's so people could mod the interface for raids and shit.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: at was denial and delusion. I am a genetic mistake. I'm a complete waste. I am disgusting. Here to forever be the "duff" (designated ugly fat friend). Equivalent to a pet dog." << riight, and i'm supposed to provide the gallons and bushels of wsod required to make this pass as in-character, somehow ? how!
mircea_popescu: suppose you met an ant one day, and this and told you in morse code its whole genome.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: thereby you know you're asleep and dreaming. because the machinery that'd allow the item know its dna precludes it being ant-shaped ; and the culture it requires to know morse precludes it being ant-substance.
mircea_popescu: you know, every guy in kresty dreams of one day becoming basically like us, with enough money to buy a round for everyone. and they think that if they did get the money, that's how they used it.
mircea_popescu: yet, from experience, loads of kresty alumni do get rich eventually
mircea_popescu: it's altogether woman in question is going to eat anything. she's just as uterinely productive as any other viteline ; that she chooses to "have problems" is ultimately uninteresting.
mircea_popescu: "Step 2. The state will maintain a fund for buying 18yo females for the puporse of populating the breeder farms - "
mircea_popescu: o look, the uterine / viteline thing dun work in english. aaanyway. "any other bovine" i guess.
mircea_popescu: in latin, vitellus (yolk, and such) comes from vitulus (bull calf). much like in german protein is "eggwhite" because... ALBUMIN
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: so. the more I read from people like Emin (a "respected" academic) the more sad I become that education is now a scam. maybe its true. can't beat stupid.
thestringpuller: It would be snore for me too if he wasn't a professor teaching our kids nonsense.
thestringpuller: In Aldous Huxely's dystopia misinformation takes over real education. What are you left with when all the real people die off?
trinque: also left with your own hands, and whatever you've done with them
trinque: not to mention that socialist education was a net loss
mircea_popescu graced the subte (subway) today. the advertising is something else! "pizza #1 por cantidad the queso por porcion".
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, why not buy some cheese if that's the criteria.
mircea_popescu: "this grana padano slice is the "pizza" with highest cheese per portion content ever : 100%"
Framedragger: oh hm - commendable efforts asciilifeform, sad outcome :(
Framedragger:
https://archive.is/Z6JDu << gabriel_laddel_p's "A Realistic Solution to the Education Problem", finally found time to read through it, not bad. guess it's been discussed before tho
a111: Logged on 2015-09-09 05:01 trinque: started with math, said "what if we didn't have any order of operations except those explicitly stated, and also "wtf re: infix anyway?"
hanbot: asciilifeform's feral cat appreciation nodule would prolly enjoy the pobrecitamos shore here (found only recently because super labyrinthine/unmarked pedestrian access). penniless 'fishermen' sit on concrete stumps and occasionally pull up ~minnow, cats abound, waiting for 'might as well throw it to the cats'. nevertheless they manage to be very skinny, and fairly confused.
mircea_popescu: lol pobrecitamo is quite an apt to describe the local retard.
mircea_popescu: here's a pro tip : the "vida de noche" etc fashionable resort is "mar del plata". from reports it's a) all fambly beach, very densely populated, NO PARTIES and b) deeply contaminated with sewage. they don't care.
mircea_popescu: will waddle through the characteristic ocre brown of sewage. soberania, argentina no es un pais pobre, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: you should see the riverfront here. miles of what anywhere else would be primo waterfront real estate, covered in old garbage.
mircea_popescu: no development in sight, 100 feet to a highway. they put the fucking highway by the ~best land in town.
mircea_popescu: i don't think the depths of argentina imbecility can either be comprehended or described withouy a multi-year commitment. it's just a different planet down here.
mircea_popescu: anyone seriously looking for practical proof re the whole race-intelligence nonsense is invited to spend some time in buenos aires doing anything. start a bakery, i don't care.
mircea_popescu: the ivy league of argentina is not qualified to populate san quentin.
mircea_popescu: they're all white, but without exception the stupidest people i ever met.
hanbot was also harassed by uppity old women while trying to feed actual salmon scraps to local feline. it's enlightening, inasmuch as one realizes places that kinda suck for humans really suck for animals. you'd kinda hope cat > zombie but it just doesn't work out that way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, it most pointedly it's not. see the noise discussion, where was it
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 20:49 mircea_popescu: it was long a low level puzzle this, "seriously, 2010 toyota sounds LIKE THAT ?!"
mircea_popescu: orc mechanics DO ATTEMPT TO CHARGE WHAT ACTUAL MECHANICS DO!
mircea_popescu: they think this is a country! that they should get rents! and salaries! and be paid! holy shit ?
mircea_popescu: "why shouldn't this be just like miami ? it's hot and by the water!" "yes, but miami is mostly party sluts and rich old jewish ex-party-sluts ; wheres buenos aires is the world's largest open air feebleminded reservation." "so ?"
hanbot: asciilifeform: she wanted to be important, i imagine. you shouldn't feed fish to cats, don'tchaknow, cause what if that's not what's good for them. this, ofc, buried in metric fuckton of babbling, todo biens, etc. i'm honestly ashamed i didn't outright sock her one. i end up questioning whether i've a moral imperative to massacre almost every time i venture out by now.
hanbot: fairly difficult for me to judge which state of affairs is sorrier
mircea_popescu: it's a thing with old women. classical witch with her cat is not exactly coincidental.
hanbot: why is it always cats, anyway? why not...butterflies? crystals? succulents?
mircea_popescu: cat is a preditor. the old woman is ~ a farmed animal, roughly in the sense of the afids ants keep.
mircea_popescu: yes there's a lot of cats to the crone which superficially contrasts the lots of sheep to the shepherd, but that is driven by the relative size not the actual relationship.
mircea_popescu: you don't look like a sheep, even if in costume, mr wolfislav.
trinque: gotta wonder what role toxoplasmosis plays in the hoarding.
trinque admits *wanting to* find that infection drove these creatures to live in animal shit
trinque: "thing that ought to have died"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you should see the riverfront here. miles of what anywhere else would be primo waterfront real estate, covered in old garbage. << Just like Murican cities!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> unrelatedly, and BingoBoingo might find this interesting, i finally tamed one of the wildcats, but she died four days later. i dug grave at midnight, and wondered if neighbours would call police. but nobody did. << I usally bury dead critters found on premises as well. Just keep them out of the compost.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I usually don't see too incredibly young ones. Most often dead critters I find are smaller ones that seem to have been "cat entertainment"
trinque: is this precedent for chopped off dick == pardoned ?
☟︎ trinque: they should streamline this into a state-sanctioned rehabilitation program.
Framedragger: meh. dropping the whole 'all this is mayongenderism omg' forum kerfuffle, you think gender played an actual part here? :)
☟︎ trinque: I don't think you realize the politics behind it.
Framedragger: will honestly review. i don't want to appear completely naive here
mircea_popescu: trinque effects of toxoplasmosis is somewhat well studied. for one thing it's very prevalent. for the other, it DOES affect rat behaviour.
mircea_popescu: survey study, "Consistent and significant differences in Cattell's personality factors were found between Toxoplasma-infected and -uninfected subjects in 9 of 11 studies, and these differences were not the same for men and women."
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of schizophrenia, anyone seen the film i watched last night and which is quite excellent on the topic but i can't rememeber its name ?
mircea_popescu: ah, i'm not proposing anything of the sort, just giving some "stuff related", ie, that he's not entirely on his own
mircea_popescu: and in other news, after #chainstate ended up making people learn lisp, #eulora is now making people learn c
jurov: except this kalash is c++
jurov: and the issue is null dereference in destructor
mircea_popescu: dude is learning difference between data and pointer to data, it's all good.
mircea_popescu: oh and also "danielpbarron> why would adding a declaration like this cause it to crash? apparently some other change i made that works without crashing on its own conflicts with this somehow".
Framedragger: truns out `diff` and/or version control are useful :p "what shit did i change..."
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: what, your diffulator doesn't tell you about c declaration conflicts?
ben_vulpes: why aren't you using llvm to crap out asts and diff those?
ben_vulpes: i have more bad ideas if you want some
jurov: xkcd surely has one
ben_vulpes: wait no what you really want to do is compile the binaries pipe them through xxd and into vi where you can compare them bitwise
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: admit, you just read about this on HN
ben_vulpes: or hm maybe store them as rows in postgres
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: it's called a "topical reference"
ben_vulpes: oh wait hey did you know that fundamental lisp constructs are named after registers on ancient machines? omglzozol
jurov: ben_vulpes: that's deprecated, they are properly named #'first and #'rest
ben_vulpes: i have more shitty jokes from hacker news
a111: Logged on 2016-12-01 19:16 mircea_popescu: "mice were found in germany which is a country that once invaded the soviet union where lenin introduced electricity which goes through tubes in which tubes today in england most mices live." "OH NOW IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE!!!"
jurov: looks like some NOx leaked from heathenchannel?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: drugs don't have any real effect
jurov: ben_vulpes: qualia are just registers on ancient machines
ben_vulpes: jurov: registers on ancient machines are just syntactic sugar for qualia
mircea_popescu: next some nut is going to go around pretending ousia are speaking to him. which is so much better than you know, plain old teddybears and doorknobs.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: my tulpa takes offense.
ben_vulpes: my tulpa, wife, wife-tulpa and tulpa-wife all take offense
mircea_popescu: seriously, what happens if you get one of these to define the qualia-tulpa difference ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 18:52 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: actually i found this one a few blocks away, on a walk. spent considerable money and effort in attempt to grow it.
Framedragger: qaulia-tulpa... ...so yeah, most of philosophy is just the effects of dereferencing language-originating concepts which don't have a reference. one finds random data, or barfs, and proceeds to mystify results :(
mircea_popescu: not most of all. but contemporary/english "philosophy" is entirely equal to chatter-of-bored-iran-housewives.
mircea_popescu: i liked them to, but i don't go around picking them up on the criteria of how much they need me to.
mircea_popescu: imagine if that's how it worked, you'd all be married! thrice!
ben_vulpes: you seemed to get along with those adequately
ben_vulpes: i don't keep cats, you don't need to caution me about taking them home.
jurov: asciilifeform: next time lick the anus, it helps digestion
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, the beasts i keep find cats entertaining prey
ben_vulpes: child even would probably rend cat limb from limb within week
mats: wild cats are pests
mats: i prefer that my neighbors avoid supporting pests that annihilate the local fauna
ben_vulpes: i prefer extinguishing all fauna and covering the landscape in identical plastic potemkin suburbs
ben_vulpes: filling water table with esoteric natgas extraction byproducts and lighting tapwater for lols
a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 22:35 trinque: is this precedent for chopped off dick == pardoned ?
mats: asciilifeform: similarly, i prefer that my neighbors avoid supporting local homeless populations
mats: but thankfully this isn't such a massive problem as in, say, San Francisco, San Diego
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-17#1604368 << "gender" has no bearing on the "indentity politics" construction of "gender". what mattered was that private bradley edward manning was with the usg.dos and against the usg.dod. as it doesn't look likely usg.dos will even survive the trump terms, let alone ever again come to preminence, they'll do anything.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-01-17 22:37 Framedragger: meh. dropping the whole 'all this is mayongenderism omg' forum kerfuffle, you think gender played an actual part here? :)
ben_vulpes: mats: this year's freeze killed some homeless people, to the endlessly amusing horror of many locals
mats: life ben_vulpes: why not universal basic income?!11
mats: er, ignore that prepended life.
ben_vulpes: definitely going to decrease the cost of living
ben_vulpes: i am all for increasing social programs
ben_vulpes: employing and accustoming armies of bachelors degrees holders to a 'nice middle class life'
mircea_popescu: seems pretty much the only reasonable play. usg is beyond fixing, so steal as much as possible.
mats: a yes, the welfare recipient is a tru patriot
ben_vulpes: cut taxes, increase social benefits. raise the debt ceiling, it's not like it actually matters, what the government doesn't balance its checkbook like a household omg
mircea_popescu: the us had a "nationalization moment", when it attempted to become a nation (much like serbia did recently ; and got bombed for it by the same people).
mircea_popescu: and so there isn't such a thing as a patriot in that place since about the civil war, give or take.
ben_vulpes: mats: forgive me, but what's a "patriot" in this context?
mircea_popescu: kresty group loyalty is not patriotism as the prison is not a nation even if you include its culture.
mats: ben_vulpes: a person that loves their country!
mircea_popescu: most everything down there is cheap plastic copy of yurpean item huh
mircea_popescu: technically : a patriot is a person who is willing to die in order to keep people who don't belong in his country out of his country.
mats: i thought i was a patriot for a stretch.
mircea_popescu: love dun so much enter, the notion is fundamentally self-abortive ; and there's no "for" as such.
mircea_popescu: i actually became a patriot with the invention of tmsr, whodda thunk it. i never thought i would care enough.
deedbot: agustin voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: anyways, mats, pretty sure that us lost 90% of our generation with the "don't let the terrorists win! keep buying shit! and supporting Our Great Corporations!" at the tail end of 2001.
mats: you mean you didn't believe Krugman when he said Debt is Good?!
mats: anyway, this is a bit circle-jerk-y, so ill stop
mircea_popescu: fucking quisman. there's always a bunch of these, and then they pretend to history.
mircea_popescu: "we said the exact thing that someone was going to have said anyway in those circumstances and this should be recorded with a name associated." dude... why the everloving fuck already.
ben_vulpes: one point of contact at $bigcorp's name was actually quisling
mats: i'm not headed there, just curious if he's going to fly into us for trial and anal soldering
ben_vulpes: "b-b-b-but i didn't siiiign that tweet!"
jurov: “Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary and has sought refuge in a country that most recently made a concerted effort to undermine confidence in our democracy.”
ben_vulpes: but before you do, please ensure they key does not expire.
mircea_popescu: jurov "Mr." is rapidly becoming the superlative of that whole string with "embattled" and "controversial"
agustin: The key does not expire I created it that way.
jurov: i recommend clicking next by thread, it only gets lulzier
deedbot: 708F90EFE1A32427B6B5A131E347DD5E18F190C6 registered as agustin.
mircea_popescu: solving "scalability" problems that only exist in their nutty heads.
ben_vulpes: !!rate agustin 1 can follow instructions
mircea_popescu: yeah im also quite impressed. who are you an' what do you do agustin ?
ben_vulpes: !!v ED367D99B8EB14ADF4882A0C63D1CC6CD78D1FC51F82394E54F1364BE5669B6D
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ben_vulpes: "we blamed the operators. we blamed the cpe vendors. we blamed the router vendors. and now we blame the users. it's always someone else's fault."
ben_vulpes: i will take delivery of the lols, tyvm