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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 23:38:50 lobbes: has been glued to console most of the day; almost has the first chunk of mp-wp-bot functioning (inserting log lines to blog post piece)
lobbes has been glued to console most of the day; almost has the first chunk of mp-wp-bot functioning (inserting log lines to blog post piece)
lobbes coincidentally saw that key a few hours ago while grabbing your main key for a mp-wp install for testing
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/mp-wp-bot-work-plan-week-2/ << lobbesblog -- mp-wp bot work plan: week 2
mircea_popescu: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/the-mp-wp-bot-job-offer/#comment-92 indeed.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: in comments at http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/the-mp-wp-bot-job-offer/
lobbes: In other news, I wish this mp-wp-bot already existed. I've been trying to locate a Trilema piece for this post I'm working on, and I must've gone through a few dozen by now with no luck.
lobbes: How's this: I'm going to begin by attacking Thing 2 in this comment (grr the new server-side selection does not work for comments it seems?), after which I should have more info on my ability and the time it should take. I can give you a better estimate then I hope
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935373 << ayup. and the svg-ing of mp-wp and so on
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 20:14:25 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935281 << bvt, would you be able to produce the vpatch? I would, but a) my knowledge of tcp stack / kernels / etc. is pretty much nil and b) I'm gearing up to focus 100% on mircea_popescu's latest mp-wp bot ask if I end up winning this auction.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935281 << bvt, would you be able to produce the vpatch? I would, but a) my knowledge of tcp stack / kernels / etc. is pretty much nil and b) I'm gearing up to focus 100% on mircea_popescu's latest mp-wp bot ask if I end up winning this auction.
lobbes: ty for answering my Q's; and I've responded
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/the-mp-wp-bot-job-offer/ << lobbesblog -- The mp-wp bot job offer
billymg: without going into too much detail my current mp-wp roadmap is: 1) finish writing tests, 2) mass delete cruft/unnecessary "features", 3) formalize a republican theme (or a few themes)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 04:37:22 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933694 <-- ftr, I'm pretty sure that the same coat can be applied to mp-wp without much effort. so if e.g. billymg is interested, I can provide him with everything he needs; tho the blog is online already, not especially difficult to see how the webpage is structured.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that
mircea_popescu: (perfectly acceptable for logger part of bot to consist of simply updating article in mpwp-posts, tagged as "logs" category, have one for each day. mp-wp will do the rest.)
mircea_popescu: the line where it was mentioned as text and the url to the logotron ; and c) deploys this to pizarro box (should be getting one presently i'm understanding) -- this step will also include putting a trilema clone in there (i'll provide the mp-wp install/db dumb, all that's needed is a mysql glue such that local myql server slaves trilema.com mysql server ; i intend to make a one line edit to the forms, such that comments le
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 04:34:33 spyked: magemagick (what I believe mp-wp uses currently?) or gimp batch processer; regardless of what is to be used, the tools *are already there*, it's the user's problem how or what he uses. I for one don't wanna use web interface for photo processing, nor did I ever intend to add this to thetarpit, nor would I stop anyone from adding them if they wish
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934014 <-- more along the lines of: convert from thetarpit-format to mp-wp-format so that paragraphs, photos etc. display properly; it's not a big deal, but I expect there are a few unknowns that might require manually walking the article list. which isn't *that* big, but still.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:04:58 mircea_popescu: spyked, "the painstaking labour involved in moving every post to MP-WP (plus fixing the links) would take a yet-to-be-determined amount of time" << why is this to be a pain ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 04:25:25 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933930 <-- eh, when I first wrote the blog, I chose "markdown" as markup, so now would have to write some extra code to take the generated html content and add it to mp-wp db; problem is, there's the manual step of verifying that the resulting content looks okay, and e.g. the photoblog posts use thetarpit-specific css.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1933996 << for all the whining re php, one thing mp-wp most definitely does right is that it separates the article from the mark-up
spyked: magemagick (what I believe mp-wp uses currently?) or gimp batch processer; regardless of what is to be used, the tools *are already there*, it's the user's problem how or what he uses. I for one don't wanna use web interface for photo processing, nor did I ever intend to add this to thetarpit, nor would I stop anyone from adding them if they wish
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 18:04:58 mircea_popescu: spyked, "the painstaking labour involved in moving every post to MP-WP (plus fixing the links) would take a yet-to-be-determined amount of time" << why is this to be a pain ?
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933930 <-- eh, when I first wrote the blog, I chose "markdown" as markup, so now would have to write some extra code to take the generated html content and add it to mp-wp db; problem is, there's the manual step of verifying that the resulting content looks okay, and e.g. the photoblog posts use thetarpit-specific css.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933694 <-- ftr, I'm pretty sure that the same coat can be applied to mp-wp without much effort. so if e.g. billymg is interested, I can provide him with everything he needs; tho the blog is online already, not especially difficult to see how the webpage is structured.
mircea_popescu: spyked, "the painstaking labour involved in moving every post to MP-WP (plus fixing the links) would take a yet-to-be-determined amount of time" << why is this to be a pain ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, afaik mp-wp takes postgres out of the box
feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/09/additional-tests-for-mp-wp-now-according-to-spec/ << billymg -- Additional tests for mp-wp, now according to spec
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-30 06:59:30 mp_en_viaje: trying to maybe gwt out of it, hence the work to spec "blog" in the abstract ; but mp-wp stack works for trilema TODAY ; i ain't taking a break from publishing untul "better world". god knows the week long #trilema outage was long enough.
mp_en_viaje: trying to maybe gwt out of it, hence the work to spec "blog" in the abstract ; but mp-wp stack works for trilema TODAY ; i ain't taking a break from publishing untul "better world". god knows the week long #trilema outage was long enough.
diana_coman: re logger atm I am undecided as my options so far seem to be: 1. do another round of madness with flask until it works on this old (but stable at least) centos 2. replicate environment aka burn down centos and have fun installing remotely on the machine cuntoo 3. simply run irssi (as I'm otherwise running this code anyway as my client) with logging to db into an mp-wp database and be done with it (possibly each line a one comment - will end
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 12:34:46 spyked: asciilifeform, IMHO the custom markup idea for new blogotron ain't bad, but it might piss off ppl used to mp-wp, who still use ye olde html tags. I'm curious to hear opinions, given that I'm working on this exact thing for thetarpit
spyked: asciilifeform, IMHO the custom markup idea for new blogotron ain't bad, but it might piss off ppl used to mp-wp, who still use ye olde html tags. I'm curious to hear opinions, given that I'm working on this exact thing for thetarpit
diana_coman: I suspect he just missed that/did not update his local mp-wp, that's all
mircea_popescu: im not re-debugging this, spent a day year-or-so ago on it, i expect the resuklts to be in the mp-wp tree!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I do; and a few other bits that are on the list to change but on which I kept thinking "there will be a mp-wp theme" and then can tweak; hm, who was it, billymg ?
mp_en_viaje: this is kinda-sorta where my "add logger to mp-wp pages" thing goes towards. conceivably one could have a reconcillation process as part of one's blog
billymg: mp_en_viaje: responded to your comment on the tester post http://billymg.com/2019/08/mp-wp-automated-testing-proposal-and-vpatch/comment-page-1/#comment-33
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 01:57:33 billymg: ^ i put together a quick POC for e2e testing on mp-wp. i have to sign off for the night and will be away from my main machine this weekend but will be checking the logs/comments if anyone has any feedback
mircea_popescu: someone can then configure a local ~eater~ (taking, eg, bot cvs dumps) and have the logs (of w/e chan interests them) directly on their mp-wp. which means -- including the selection thing etc.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, lobbes or billymg i guess -- if either of you feel like futzing with it, having a logger bot that spits out days formatted for mp-wp into MPWP_posts table formatted into a category so one can just plug that into their blog will prolly be fantastic.
billymg: ^ i put together a quick POC for e2e testing on mp-wp. i have to sign off for the night and will be away from my main machine this weekend but will be checking the logs/comments if anyone has any feedback
feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/08/mp-wp-automated-testing-proposal-and-vpatch/ << billymg -- MP-WP Automated Testing Proposal and VPatch
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: done and indeed this way it works; I wasn't aware of this bug in mp-wp though
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: This is odd. I an unsure how or why mp-wp tries to paginate comments. Will try to see if I can uncover anything.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: the comments links seem broken on younghands.club; is there more weirdness with the mp-wp install? e.g. http://younghands.club/2019/07/28/week-2-progress-summary-3/ links to http://younghands.club/2019/07/28/week-2-progress-summary-3/comment-page-/#comment-4 that 404s
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/how-to-restructure-the-categories-of-articles-on-mp-wp/ << Trilema -- How to restructure the categories of articles on MP-WP
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'll get to pressing an updated mp-wp
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: the mp-wp on younghands.club seems to be still stripping all tags; is it deployed without the patch or what?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, alternatively, you set up a mp-wp on postgres.
diana_coman: so uhm, basically it has to be a different mp-wp installation for logtron specifically?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, how appealing does the following sound to you : 1. run an instance of logbot, feeding the log into your mp-wp db, so that each day is publishd as a new post ; 2. have a special category for these, such as "logs" or w/e ; add a special search page, such that if one introduces a term is fed a list of days that include it, with the term preselected in the page by url.
asciilifeform not eaten mp-wp, does not know whether it includes enableable public search function somewhere, and if so whether can be easily repurposed for by-line srch
mp_en_viaje: mp-wp entirely exists as "this thing that displays a database" thing. if you already have a thing that feeds a database, and miss athing that displays it, then mp=wp very well could be it.
mp_en_viaje: it ~occurs to me~ however, that some trivial glue would readily turn a db pre-populated by this logbot into mp-wp pages.
mp_en_viaje: wth is this bullshit, anyway! left to own devices how about we just driftwood forever into nothingness! when i discovered a problem with mp-wp, at night in fucking minsk, i was also ~publishing~ a solution the next fucking morning, what the everloving fuck already.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'm not familiar with crontab, but your db user has full privileges on the mp-wp blog's database
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-20#1924044 << in so many words, nope. moreover, mp-wp cookie based admin login is not safe with open ip login, because cookie can get trivially stolen on any js enabled browser. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Now, mp-wp does have a user role facility that allows restricting what different user names get to do.
BingoBoingo: Well, mp-wp also has all of the dashboard including living in /wp-admin as well including the page for making posts.
asciilifeform loox in his notebook and finds also 'hm why not let mp-wp highlight selects on server-end, so machines w/out js display highlights' but also never attempted this, notenuff phpfu
diana_coman: I mean ofc mp-wp there.
diana_coman: I knew I did it before but on standard wp and I hadn't looked at mp-wp
BingoBoingo: mp-wp has a user management feature. As long as they are interacting with the shared account through mp-wp they shouldn't be setting up irc bouncers to draw aggro by evangelizing Pantsuited tonterias
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform does the mp-wp install on a shared account with pizarro work with multiple authors?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-09#1922151 << if you dig through mp-wp guts there's a means to auto-adjust image size to order for a batch of images. the uploader uses it. ☝︎
Mocky: BingoBoingo: I have my blog posts migrated over to the mp-wp you set up for me on UY1, I want to switch over and have mocky.org served from there. What's a good way to do that?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-26#1920121 << I'll try shimming the select script in. Qntra is still on a not quite mp-wp fork due to the DB changes that happened between mp-wp and qntra-wp forking from derppress ☝︎
mircea_popescu: because it occurs to me that ~if~ you publish your codebase you're working on, and if your blog works correctly in the mp-wp sense, then therefore you get all this for free, just make a metapost.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-27 21:35 diana_coman: in other stepping-in-all-the-holes : it seems I found a fail-mode of mp-wp browser interface namely if one pastes the content of a post first and only then (possibly after it rushes to quick save it or whatevers) the title, it fails miserably as it apparently tries to save it with title "" (notwithstanding that no, it should not, there is actually a title to it)
PeterL: hi there, I made a small vpatch for MP-WP, because the text selection was not working: http://peterl.xyz/2019/06/vpatch-for-text-selection-fix/
diana_coman: in other stepping-in-all-the-holes : it seems I found a fail-mode of mp-wp browser interface namely if one pastes the content of a post first and only then (possibly after it rushes to quick save it or whatevers) the title, it fails miserably as it apparently tries to save it with title "" (notwithstanding that no, it should not, there is actually a title to it) ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: certainly displays the patience required, to, eg, make a quite pretty mp-wp clone in python.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= << item
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, why not make a mp-wp tree patch then ?
mp_en_viaje: ok, so don't use that. just because random plugin was written by tard doesn't invalidate either php as a ... text processor, nor wp plugins as an extension framerowkr for mp-wp
lobbesbot: PeterL: Sent 1 day, 16 hours, and 28 minutes ago: <billymg> yup, if you want the patch that fixes svg image links you can grab mp-wp_update-image-references-to-svg from here http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= - although i recommend going for the latest patch on that page
billymg: been meaning to make some tweaks to my mp-wp guide and will include that update
a111: Logged on 2019-04-20 19:59 billymg: anyway, i updated php on my server to include gd and it indeed works fine. so for now the latest patch for mp-wp is the one i personally recommend/support
billymg: anyway, i updated php on my server to include gd and it indeed works fine. so for now the latest patch for mp-wp is the one i personally recommend/support ☟︎
billymg: but yeah, the "mp-wp roadmap proposal" post is something i've been meaning to do
mircea_popescu: now ~whether~ it can or can not resize images, that'd be part of mp-wp, and i expect it'd work, but your current theme doesn't expose the functionality
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's altogether dubious mp-wp is program, or really anything other than an overgrown script.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-30 20:20 feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/03/the-mp-wp-weightloss-program/ << billymg -- The mp-wp weightloss program
feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/03/the-mp-wp-weightloss-program/ << billymg -- The mp-wp weightloss program ☟︎
billymg: Mocky: updated mp-wp patch and sig available here: http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud.vpatch http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud.vpatch.billymg.sig
billymg: in terms of test suite, i didn't actually write any automated tests for mp-wp, i only meant the manual testing i did, plus reading my own patch a few times
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 17:14 mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, word. it's more a thing for something like mp-wp, which is a sort of enduser app so to speak, than something like eucrypt that's basically a library, or in any case a building block intended for use in forging.
mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch. ☟︎
billymg: a freshly pressed copy of the divergent patch found here http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= has been running on my blog since sunday though
mircea_popescu: Mocky, pressing something's a good idea, for sure, even if it's just some patches on mp-wp chain say.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-25 12:37 mircea_popescu: phf, why does http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud not look the same as http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_html-comments-enabled ? i want ?inlinep=true FOREVAR!!!!
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-25#1904731 << http://thewhet.net/2019/03/mp-wp-patch-for-enabling-html-comments/ ; updated phf billymg mircea_popescu et al. ☝︎
hanbot: meanwhile billymg phf mircea_popescu et al my patch from last night needed a reground, sorry for the pain in the ass. http://thewhet.net/2019/03/mp-wp-patch-for-enabling-html-comments/
mircea_popescu: phf, and since i'm doing whining : can there be an alternate mode where lines are always interleaved, like in this beauty ? eg, http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs#selection-5661.0-5158.160 and http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs#selection-5335.0-5158.58 needn't appear that far apart (leaving asi
mircea_popescu: phf, why does http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud not look the same as http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_html-comments-enabled ? i want ?inlinep=true FOREVAR!!!! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= << keks they ended up diverged. normally i'd ask hanbot to regrind, except this is a large patch that needs some reading, so would you mind regrinding it on top of hers billymg ?