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Mocky: BingoBoingo can you set me up with mp-wp in my wwwhabeeb directory on uy1 for mockyhabeeb.com? I want to see what migrating my blog will involve.
mircea_popescu: but i am discouraged by the result of the training exercise for this matter, where apparently in spite of attempts to standardize the infinitely more complex mp-wp, the result was similarly tower of bable.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 17:32 asciilifeform: junkyard wars (e.g. trb, mp-wp) where one is stuck welding a tank from 5 zaporozhets and 3 lada carcasses, because that's what there is to work with, inevitably are heavyweight
deedbot: hanbot rated billymg 1 << Thorough MP-WP patchworker.
hanbot: !!rate billymg 1 Thorough MP-WP patchworker.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 17:54 billymg: !Q later tell hanbot mp-wp patches have been updated: http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ -- the only "\ No newline at end of file" strings you should find in .svg refs patch are from before part of the diff (i.e. file diffed had no newline at the end)
lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 1 day, 10 hours, and 22 minutes ago: <billymg> mp-wp patches have been updated: http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ -- the only \ No newline at end of file strings you should find in .svg refs patch are from before part of the diff (i.e. file diffed had no newline at the end)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886499 << yeah, dunno if youi're using mp-wp or not, but in any case, it has a filter thingee you can turn off/adsjust ☝︎
billymg: !Q later tell hanbot mp-wp patches have been updated: http://billymg.com/2019/01/minor-mp-wp-patch-updates/ -- the only "\ No newline at end of file" strings you should find in .svg refs patch are from before part of the diff (i.e. file diffed had no newline at the end)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 04:53 hanbot: billymg, phf: in billymg's latest mp-wp vpatch (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885285), i see the old "\ No newline at end of file" spew on two of the touched files (was symptom of bug last yr: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786014). still indicative of proablem with presser/patch?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-07 04:31 billymg: hanbot: i put together a patch for the svg links mentioned earlier: http://billymg.com/2019/01/mp-wp-vpatch-update-internal-image-references-to-point-to-svg-extensions/
hanbot: billymg, phf: in billymg's latest mp-wp vpatch (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885285), i see the old "\ No newline at end of file" spew on two of the touched files (was symptom of bug last yr: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786014). still indicative of proablem with presser/patch? ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: nope. analoguous to "oh, this bureaucracy can't just put mp-wp on, gotta spend 5mns to pay some indian monkey $500 to wing an "in house" one overnight"
billymg: i think there also might be some opportunities to remove code from mp-wp. for example, the included tinymce browser text-editor plugin seems to come with three different themes. i haven't looked too closely but i'm guessing only one of them is actually used
billymg: there is also now a copy of the mp-wp vtree here http://billymg.com/mp-wp-vtree/
billymg: hanbot: i put together a patch for the svg links mentioned earlier: http://billymg.com/2019/01/mp-wp-vpatch-update-internal-image-references-to-point-to-svg-extensions/
lobbesbot: mats: Sent 1 week, 4 days, 4 hours, and 42 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/r1dkc/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:13 mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out.
mircea_popescu: hanbot is working on the mp-wp tree, and manages as she long has a rather largeish wetworks i'm not going to get into the details of.
mircea_popescu: so : as far as i know, bingoBoingo is working on qntra and on pizarro. he's doing a very fine job with the former ; i'm nonplussed with recently discovering just how broken the latter's mp-wp offering actually was ; moreover it seems to me from a distance pizarro's still financially and customer-wise entirely dependent, ie as close to failure as you can possibly get without spelling it out.
diana_coman: billymg, looks good; perhaps mirror the whole mp-wp tree somewhere as you seem to be working on mp-wp?
billymg: post containing vpatch for mp-wp footnotes and text-selection http://billymg.com/2018/12/mp-wp-vpatch-add-footnotes-plugin-and-text-selection-javascript/
lobbesbot: nicoleci: Sent 4 days, 7 hours, and 57 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/anvCs/?raw=true
billymg: in the mean time, if anyone else would like to test, the files here should work for you: http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs.vpatch http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs.vpatch.billymg.sig
billymg: diana_coman: my understanding was that as long as i created the vpatch with a keccak-compatible vdiff then the hashes would be consistent with genesis and it would be ok. this assumption came from me being able to press vtools and mp-wp with my current v.py (grabbed from the link in the trb setup guide)
bvt: i.e. in hanbot genesis, there is a/mp-wp/manifest, while in your vpatch a/manifest
bvt: billymg: it seems that you should move directory mp-wp into directories a, b, not rename them.
billymg: diana_coman: i loaded the necessary files into the patches/ .seals/ .wot directory structure and ran them through v.py (exact steps here: http://billymg.com/2018/10/the-complete-noobs-guide-to-setting-up-mp-wp-on-a-pizarro-rock-chip-server/)
diana_coman: billymg, sounds good; when you say genesis I assume you mean http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis ; correct?
billymg: it could also be my v.py, although i was able to press vtools and mp-wp genesis fine with it
a111: Logged on 2018-12-27 18:03 billymg: i created a vpatch for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1865184 < http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs.vpatch http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs.vpatch.billymg.sig however i am having trouble pressing it myself
billymg: hanbot: going by the vpatch i found here http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ or http://btcbase.org/data/mp-wp/ the file does seem to contain a few references to e.g. .jpg.svg, .png.svg
hanbot: billymg current mp-wp should absolutely not have any .jpg.svg flotsam; kubrickheader for instance is .svg
billymg: so wondering if maybe bvt or BingoBoingo caught this and updated, or what's there is from a different release of mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 21:26 billymg: what if i submitted a vpatch that adds the js-text-selection feature and the few lines of CSS to the "default" theme in mp-wp (blue header one)?
billymg: i created a vpatch for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1865184 < http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs.vpatch http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp_add-footnotes-and-textselectionjs.vpatch.billymg.sig however i am having trouble pressing it myself ☝︎
lobbesbot: bvt: Sent 43 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wSwU6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: nicoleci bvt mats cruciform: Addenum to enable the mp-wp uploader http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YvpmR/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: Any pizzaro shared hosting customers who had me configure your mp-wp let me know if you have not recieved a dispatch
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell nicoleci MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/anvCs/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mats MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/r1dkc/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell bvt MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wSwU6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell cruciform MP-WP hardening and enhancemenst, please acknowledge receipt http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/j2WcJ/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: oh wait, is the expected format <a href=""></a> rather than <a href=></a> ? (this'd be new to both the w3c and mp-wp_
BingoBoingo playing with less spartan mp-wp, enjoying self and preaparing to share this gift
mircea_popescu: since we're on mp-wp woes : an hero to make mp-wp footnote system NEST would be appreciated. currently works only 1 level deep, maybe once each year or two gotta do lvl2 footnotes by hand.
BingoBoingo: Aite, mp-wp woes are looking manageable
BingoBoingo: I'm not sure I've used an mp-wp install with a functional image uploader yet.
BingoBoingo remembers something happening to tinymce down the line with hanbots patches to mp-wp will have to dig to see what happened. Neither of the editor tabs appear to be linked to anything in the mp-wp's I've pressed recently. They've just been html input/view boxes.
BingoBoingo listens puts press mp-wp again on the agenda
mircea_popescu: i suspect breakage somewhere along the way, because iirc hanbot 's mp-wp that i testrun at some point had these.
mircea_popescu: which is not even sane (seeing how if uncommented the server croaks) and anyway dysfunctional (really, mp-wp installation is vulnerable to cookie hijacking, you're supposed to lock down wp-admin by ip, especially if you're going to be clicking on random links).
mircea_popescu: this completely breaks it, at least as far as my workflow is concerned, because i never use anything besides 1 and you can't very practically get images in without 2. they're both core functionality of why i even bother with mp-wp in the first place, rather than some random other solution.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, this ~doesn't~ come with preinstalled mp-wp ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo can i get a shared hosting instance briefly spun up so i test drive it ? i have like a suspicion mp-wp is subtly broken in places, maybe, or something's afoot.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well, whoopdeedoo... if instead of letting the ants eat your dumb asses you ate the ants, it'd be the other way. and until it isn't the other way, it'll keep being this way, grand discovery this. << This is. I'm setting up mp-wp for a lead danielpbarron directed to us.
mircea_popescu certainly not against having magic postgres ver+config tested out for mp-wp. never stumbled on the magic combo, but also never looked too hard. the hooks are in though, can be switched ~effortlessly.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside my observation of anyone else's experience -- the "here's mp-wp codebase" has not appreciably destroyed something as far as i can tell.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Sent 15 hours and 40 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> iirc you were the one who set up nicoleci's mp-wp, plox to take look ?
mircea_popescu: psa : one point of mp-wp people might not be familiar with is the feed encoding. like here : http://bimbo.club/?feed=rss2 ; that leading "OTIxMjQ0NTYxMTJ8MTc5LjUwLjIyNi4xNjE=" encodes the ip of the caller. if you get your feeds republished (often done by spammers ), you de-base the string and can ban the scrapper by ip.
ben_vulpes: robo-production, or ripe for surfacing through mp-wp.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo iirc you were the one who set up nicoleci's mp-wp, plox to take look ?
mircea_popescu: it should not be possible for a mp-wp correctly installed to display the (()) part
asciilifeform: mp-wp on shared machine is a per-user install, tho, so it is possible that somebody's is broken. that one seems to work tho
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo, is the mp-wp on pizarro's shared server broken or what ? i don't understand how http://archive.is/Bihzo#selection-111.0-115.1 is possible otherwise ?
mircea_popescu: i suspect some work on trying mp-wp in a postgres environment would be quite beneficial at this juncture, even.
lobbes: danielpbarron: fwiw my pizarro rockchip has served me well thus far as a home for both auctionbot and for mp-wp. Hell, you could run a mirror for your church's www in the event it goes down AND host the poker bot
mircea_popescu: amberglint how about you mp-wp yourself ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right, the question is what version of wordpress you are sitting on determines how much massaging you have to do to your database dump. Once MP-WP eats a correctly massaged dump your numbers counts survive and the numbers and human urls both work.
BingoBoingo: Doing the xml dump import into a new mp-wp (or other wp) is going to change the counts
BingoBoingo: Depending on how far his wordpress is from MP-WP and in which direction is going to determine how much of a pain preserving those counts will be.
mircea_popescu: see how http://trilema.com/?p=1338 resolves ? there's no url broken with sane scheme. because mp-wp is written for me not for "the web".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no i meant, re the mp-wp
asciilifeform: 'Mp-wp standardizes unnecessary work' << bahahaha
BingoBoingo: Another thing that seems to have been tabled which I am finding more interesting after my blog disaster is an adult Rockchip plant. Especially now that MP-WP appears to be less of a threat to exhaust RAM after tweaking 1 MYSQL knob.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-23 17:58 mircea_popescu: but w/e, anything but install mp-wp, play eulora, etcetera. GOTTA LONEMAN OF INSANITY
mircea_popescu: but w/e, anything but install mp-wp, play eulora, etcetera. GOTTA LONEMAN OF INSANITY
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 23:16 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867924 << ikr, multi-upload has been on the wishlist for mp-wp ever since... hey hanbot how long's it been now ?
BingoBoingo: http://bingology.net/2018/11/19/collected-lessons-about-mp-wp-after-rebuilding-this-blog-again/
BingoBoingo: Aite, I have found a ~56kb chunk of php which will let mp-wp shit out database backups from the dashboard. Going to put reading the PHP in the que, because php chunk's alleged author is this guy: http://austinmatzko.com/
BingoBoingo: Thankfully Qntra has a backup button, but with mp-wp I gotta dogfood it, because it is what I will be asked about
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: after i find these two roots, i would gladly serve and spreadsheetize this into the pizarro mysql/mp-wp
BingoBoingo: Anyways, we already have an mp-wp. Once things are clean and clear and organized, they can land there.
mircea_popescu: pizarro could get fancy, run a publicly-advertised dedicated node, dumpblocks or w/e to get the txen, push them into mp-wp 100% automatically.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, since pizarro's website runs mp-wp, which is php, this can all be done in... an hour ?
lobbes: mod6: I also recommend getting a proper mp-wp up and running. As someone who also tried to stick with the 'manual html' route, I vastly underestimated the communicative power of a proper blogotron (the speed-up-to-post, the catagorizing, the deedbot announces, comments, pingbacks, etc etc)
mircea_popescu: in the present situation i'd settle for a three-file 5k loc mp-wp reduction from the current imensity.
mircea_popescu: this "oh, i won't play eulora" "oh, i won't use mp-wp" is starting to smack of specialsnowflakeism already. you realise this, dildos fuck your holes exactly as well as anyone else's, they're holes, the hole pre-exists your personal notion of the self.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mp-wp does a bunch of useful things, such as adnotating the img tags, resizing the image to your pre-set sizes so you never have to worry about formatting, balancing them out in directories etc etc.
mircea_popescu: there really is ~0 reason to have something like mp-wp in multiple DIRECTORIES chockfulla files.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 04:19 mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 23:16 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867924 << ikr, multi-upload has been on the wishlist for mp-wp ever since... hey hanbot how long's it been now ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was on the defaults. 2 GB rockchip and while not a trilema sized blog, bigger than most on mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-11-02 01:36 billymg: managed to press vtools and use vdiff to create a patch of the css tweaks for the "default" theme included in mp-wp http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp-css-refine.txt
ben_vulpes: Mocky: there's not much stomaching involved with operating an mp-wp. it's a pretty feature-complete blog; if you really want a custom template you can buy one.
mircea_popescu: Mocky you know all these exist as mp-wp already!
billymg: managed to press vtools and use vdiff to create a patch of the css tweaks for the "default" theme included in mp-wp http://billymg.com/downloads/mp-wp-css-refine.txt
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867924 << ikr, multi-upload has been on the wishlist for mp-wp ever since... hey hanbot how long's it been now ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I'll look into that too, since moving to mp-wp should have alleviated that.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-23 06:05 bvt: hi, i have mp-wp set up now: http://bvt-trace.net/2018/10/instead-of-hello-world-fg-tests/ . I will publish writeup and updated vpatch for vpatch later today.