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a111: Logged on 2018-10-20 18:01 billymg: curious what type of browser environments the lords use -- when writing a theme for mp-wp will need to know what kind of font, css, js support to expect
billymg: curious what type of browser environments the lords use -- when writing a theme for mp-wp will need to know what kind of font, css, js support to expect
billymg: trinque: update on progress: after several nights of heavy drinking i managed to also catch a cold. working on mp-wp setup this afternoon (at reduced capacity) and was able to press and get it to http://161.0.121.194
deedbot: ave1 rated hanbot 2 << mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:10 bvt: should set everything up till the end of the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already tested pressing mp-wp locally.
bvt: should set everything up till the end of the week. i didn't rent a rk; but already tested pressing mp-wp locally.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 03:02 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862295 << bootstrapping problem, he has to get vtools compiled to press mp-wp to install it on the rk he already bought.
mircea_popescu: does it have either vtools or mp-wp ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-14#1862295 << bootstrapping problem, he has to get vtools compiled to press mp-wp to install it on the rk he already bought.☝︎
BingoBoingo: billymg: With mp-wp the three most common sources of headbanging are: file and directory permissions, .htaccess (if running apache), and pressing into a populated direction (As in you press, aren't sure anything happened and press again into the output directory without cleansing it; prevalence of this one depends on particular v-tron used))
billymg: about to step out for a bit but have been keeping notes and will put together a writeup after mp-wp is successfully pressed/running
mod6: <+asciilifeform> BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'm thinking , i prolly oughta roll the mp-wp prereqs into the standard rk image, in the short term << sounds alright to me, alf
asciilifeform: perhaps mp-wp itself, also.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'm thinking , i prolly oughta roll the mp-wp prereqs into the standard rk image, in the short term
billymg: i was not, i was mostly going off http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
mircea_popescu: so keep notes, and then there's your first article for free -- "how i pressed mp-wp to give self proper www".
billymg: next step will be getting mp-wp setup so i can have a proper www
a111: Logged on 2018-10-11 00:54 asciilifeform: billymg: various notes re uses for rk , for your enjoyment -- http://thewhet.net/2018/08/hanbots-znc-bouncer-notes/ , http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ , http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
asciilifeform: billymg: various notes re uses for rk , for your enjoyment -- http://thewhet.net/2018/08/hanbots-znc-bouncer-notes/ , http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ , http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
asciilifeform: Mocky: mine emails. but i dun recall if mp-wp has this knob.
billymg: somewhat related to an mp-wp theme, i'd very much like some reliable hosting. do i join #pizarro to ask about that?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-10#1860043 << if you're very much dedicated to sticking to ux, eg eulora's client's in the early stages of being rewritten, Mocky may want you. otherwise, just pick something and whine at the owner, from v to whatever. write a mp-wp theme. there\s wghat to do.☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bins in mp-wp tree, hanbot expertly ascii-ized.
phf: asciilifeform: because binary we've been going back and forth on over many conversations over the past year. e.g. mp-wp was rewritten to not use binaries because around the time the resolution was to not pack binaries into vpatches and instead move in the direction of human readable formats
mircea_popescu: eg, if everyone was on mp-wp, degree of magnitude cheaper search
mircea_popescu: in random eggogs : the default theme for mp-wp (w/e it is bimbo.club got), the bottom link for comments rss links to http://bimbo.club/?feed=comments-rss2 which is broken ; http://bimbo.club/?feed=comments-rss is the correct endpoint.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform phf's thing presses fine, since at least june ( http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ )
lobbes: also, congrats on joining teh mp-wp-rk club
a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 17:07 BingoBoingo: And thank you hanbot, the V Genesised MP-WP is very nice. Much improved dashboard and editors.
BingoBoingo: And thank you hanbot, the V Genesised MP-WP is very nice. Much improved dashboard and editors.
deedbot: http://bingology.net/2018/09/04/live-from-rockchip-with-mp-wp/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog - Live From RockChip! With MP-WP!
mircea_popescu: lobbes ye olde link 404s. sadly i'm affraid this particular corner case wasn't covered in mp-wp user friendliness, doesn't autofix it.
lobbes: also I won't need mp-wp on it. just an ssh hole will suffice for my needs
BingoBoingo: Aite, I have mp-wp unpacked, wp-config populated, what's the next step on mp-wp? I am not seeing it in any of the guides http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nice, I will advise when mp-wp is ready for your chattel
mircea_popescu: mod6 does that let her log into mp-wp ?
mircea_popescu: how does she get to her mp-wp admin from teh ssh ?
BingoBoingo: Most comprehensive mp-wp write up at the moment appears to be from lobbes http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/
jurov: I'll install/configure apache on the pizarro-colocated foundation box. Want to prepare for mp-wp, anyone has handy their notes pls?
mircea_popescu: mp-wp patches welcome!
mircea_popescu: mod6 can you spin me up a mp-wp instance on the shared item, see if we can counteract the illiterate part ?
mircea_popescu: and mp-wp hjas a special folder for this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you feel like patching mp-wp to do just this, i'd very much run it.
lobbesbot: diana_coman: Sent 6 hours and 34 minutes ago: <lobbes> if you still need the footnotes php for mp-wp, I have a copy up here >> http://lobbesblog.com/static/footnotes.php.tar.gz
lobbes: !Qlater tell diana_coman if you still need the footnotes php for mp-wp, I have a copy up here >> http://lobbesblog.com/static/footnotes.php.tar.gz
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 19:33 diana_coman: ugh, on mp-wp I have avatars fine but I don't have footnotes?
diana_coman: or esthlos lobbes? how did you get the footnotes working on mp-wp?
diana_coman: ugh, on mp-wp I have avatars fine but I don't have footnotes?
mircea_popescu: moreover phf deeply has it ; the extant mp-wp infrastructure is wartime sufficient anyways,
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 15:09 mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
asciilifeform: very limited damage can be done by sheer ineptitude from a mp-wp , afaik .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if your pet can operate a mp-wp, can use, why not
mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, fwiw : mysql existing as gnat/cuntoo item (combined with its deployment in mp-wp, eulora etc) pretty much guarantees by now that tmsr db will be mysql derivative.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833379 << iirc mod6 was trying to get mp-wp genesis to work with v.pl, but it never actually pressed with it, sez so a handful of lines past that log link.☝︎
diana_coman: i.e in http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:42 mod6: When you see it in the flow, then you should be good. Then you'll have to do : ./v.pl p v mpwp mp-wp_genesis.vpatch pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals
diana_coman: hanbot, right, it's keccak hashes so ofc v.pl barfs although it's weird that it first presses so much of it and only then randomly throws up; at any rate, on different arch, phf's vpatch pressed the mp-wp genesis so at least the genesis itself seems all right
esthlos: by the way hanbot , does the mp-wp come with the footnotes and spiffy-selection built in?
diana_coman: did anyone actually press the re-grind of mp-wp genesis ? (this: http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ )?
deedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ << lobbesblog - Mein Kompendium: mp-wp
mircea_popescu: (in case anyone's wondering WHY such a thing would even occur : it's because http://trilema.com/2017/remember-the-security-hole-automattic-refused-to-fix-back-in-2014/ ; and because the expectation that this works is ~so strong~ among the internet-moron-exploiters, they don't even bother to check that indeed mp-wp doesn't permit it. so they'll try and try and try to "ddos" this way.)
lobbes: this is the point huh? Goal should really be to answer question of 'can mp-wp run on rockchip?'
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << after some investigation it appears that either mysql and/or php is the issue. In other words, stopping the mysql server (thus killing mp-wp) yields the ability load static 'non-mp-wp' pages that otherwise timeout when the server is running☝︎
mircea_popescu: ah, crapolade trying to spam. shouldn't really bring mp-wp down afaik.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827999 << a static mysql would be a thing in and of itself! could go in mp-wp too!☝︎
phf: (to clarify for logs, mp-wp patchset now, correctly, has reground mp-wp_genesis only)
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822354 << updated, but mp-wp_comments-fix also requires an updated. right now it's showing missing antecedents..☝︎
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ << The Whet - MP-WP: Genesis Regrind
phf: i added a link on patch pages to "split hunks", which allows to render any patch the way mp-wp genesis is being rendered, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis?inlinep=false
spyked: so mp-wp is an operating system? ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798159 could then make a great corollary to greenspun's thing)☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-pclzip.php << 30+kloc reimplementation of pkzip
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-wp-filesystem-ssh2.php << check ~this~ out. attempt to reimplement... ssh
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php#L23372 << lessee somebody prove this to have no false pos matches
asciilifeform: or, say, http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820837 << good % is simply rubbish, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/import/utw.php☝︎
spyked: anyway, given my limited experience with wp (nowadays I just lul at the attackers from republic of moldova trying to gain wp-admin access for the old blog), I am ready to admit that mp-wp's may be the optimal permeability of this membrane. I was even tempted to switch to mp-wp, but I'm hoping to see trilema antispam implemented in Lisp at some point in the future.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820747 <-- I dun disagree at all. as far as the thought experiment goes, I still wonder, though, whether those edges of productivity follow from *all* the lines of mp-wp code and is more than the sum of each, or whether there's a lot of extra crud in there. perhaps overly naively/boyishly at the time, I started my (still ongoing) experiment the other way around ("what is the minimum number of lines to☝︎
phf: i ended up adding windows newline rendering support, which i'm rather pleased with, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess though the pressed version is still broken.. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/tree/blog/.htaccess
phf: asciilifeform: right, not all of the svgs have multiline base64. and you'll notice that some of the files have windows newlines. i think mp-wp codebase is the one that would benefit the most from the autoformat tool discussed in logs..
a111: Logged on 2018-06-05 18:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis so here's one possible solution, for mp-wp genesis instead of listing hunks inline, i link them to separate pages: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/default_avatar.png.svg etc.
phf: on the other hand http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_comments-fix is still rendered the usual way
phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis so here's one possible solution, for mp-wp genesis instead of listing hunks inline, i link them to separate pages: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/default_avatar.png.svg etc.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 04:19 mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 17:36 mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, it's not ~just~ mp-wp that's an eyesore here. in truth it's our whole relationship to the www that's at issue.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820598 <-- indeed it does, and precisely because of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820603 . I don't know how to design a proper comment mechanism, not necessarily because of spam (I believe mp-wp antispam works), but because I'm not convinced that everyone coming on the blog should be able to leave comments, and if they do, then what format (text-only?) etc.☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, it's not ~just~ mp-wp that's an eyesore here. in truth it's our whole relationship to the www that's at issue.
phf: just to clarify my blog is mp-wp, i just bastardized the theme to the point of "improvements" being worse than original
asciilifeform: junkyard wars (e.g. trb, mp-wp) where one is stuck welding a tank from 5 zaporozhets and 3 lada carcasses, because that's what there is to work with, inevitably are heavyweight
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, asciilifeform has ~own~ 'mp-wp' , made from ~same vintage of wp, that does admittedly only half of what mircea_popescu's does ( i dun have the spam filtration ) )
phf: mp-wp is 162093 loc, 6062 of which are containered gif/png. so it's not even that base64 blobs are adding to weight. the codebase is massive
a111: Logged on 2018-06-02 20:02 mircea_popescu: for instance i can't even tell whether hanbot's mp-wp genesis includes a manifest atm, by virtue of it not even being on btcbase.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-02#1820273 << hanbot's mp-wp genesis is 5.8 mb, i haven't yet figured out yet how to make btcbase not fall under the size. at the very least i need to add a caching layer, so that i'm not regenerating 5.8*n for the generated html every time☝︎
mircea_popescu: for instance i can't even tell whether hanbot's mp-wp genesis includes a manifest atm, by virtue of it not even being on btcbase.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 05:56 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799701 << esthlos, how'd you resolve this? I'm having the same issue with mp-wp saying php is missing the mysql extension, despite having the mysql USE flag set when I emerged php5.6. Full details of my issue here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zNr0A/?raw=true
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819437 << I documented most of what worked for me at http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/ , and my portage settings are http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/CY9Vy/?raw=true☝︎
lobbes: BingoBoingo: I left a comment on yer guide re: php5.6 shitgnomes deprecating mysql in favor of mysqli. (Should be in queue). This will be a boon indeed if we can string all the quirks of mp-wp-on-rockchip in one place
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, thanks; looking forward to the rest of the walk to mp-wp at any rate (I can see the appeal of ligthtpd for sure)
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819338 << ty, I plan on blogging the rest of the walk to mp-wp on the rockchip so it is on the shelf for future reference.☝︎