tmsr - Log 2020-01-29

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billymg: mircea_popescu: also responded to your comment on the post just now, the regex matches content between both open and close delimiters so that's why only adding the / to the close was necessary. i.e. there can be as many [[ in the code as you want and it won't bother the matcher

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BingoBoingo: !!v F3E376681323D49537688A0789271FB1ECAE0905927B901D1F40C7D35227A78E

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mircea_popescu: jfw, speaking of http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/whats-on-my-mind/#comment-177 i expect one of the better examples could be perhaps http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-01-08#1767152 ; i dunno if it's universally as obvious from context as it is to me that indeed i'd have paid the tranny had nobody complained. perhaps even after, had it been litigating less retardedly.

ossabot: Logged on 2018-01-08 12:18:53 btcvixen: i would have been fine if ben_vulpes did not blow up my spot.

mircea_popescu: i really don't give that much of a shit ; unless it starts getting in my way odds are i'll ignore it. this isn't even laziness or identity as much as actual political philosophy, and as such rather

mircea_popescu: unlikely to change.

mircea_popescu: billymg, congrats, so now you understand parsing better.

mircea_popescu: the / is spurious. yes, people who get the tag misidentified can just replace the literal [ with an escaped value.

mircea_popescu: also, i don't think it's intelligent to ban footnotes from code blocks necessarily.

billymg: agree, i was hoping to have a fancy demo of footnotes within codeblocks until i ran into the issue of the (()) false positives in some code samples

mircea_popescu: will have to say what others think. imo if you can manage to make a select/dblclick NOT also catch the footnote literal anchor, footnotes in codeblocks are great things

mircea_popescu: if not however, iffier.

mircea_popescu: billymg, you realise everyone putting code into blog does some escaping anyways.

mircea_popescu: that's what sed's for.

billymg: > make a select/dblclick NOT also catch the footnote literal anchor << i'm not sure what the select/dblclick is referring to here

billymg: oh nm, so when selecting code to copy paste the 'iv' for a footnote isn't also included

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-26#1957335 <-- yeah, someone accidentally a verb there. seems using CL's built-in reader opens the door to all sorts of weird if improperly handled. I think I got it right this time tho

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-26 09:41:00 mircea_popescu: spyked, http://thetarpit.org/2020/botworks-ix?b=But%20what&e=if#select << ahaha ok that was lulzy. i confess it never occured to me it'd work.

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-21#1957068 <-- ty and np. I'm a tad behind on that front too, will read and answer asap

spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-28#1957569 <-- imo this gap between code and text is resolvable: code, as written by human, is ~also~ a particular representation of an ast. so whatever tool is able to eat an ast (immediately brings to mind "the compiler", as it stands) should also be able to print it back formatted according to user-defined rules.

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-28 06:18:27 mircea_popescu: there's also the argument that the compiler's the arbiter of code, and if ~it~ doesn't complain then fuck you. but in any case i really am not advanced enough to have the impression i have something to say on that matter.

mircea_popescu: spyked, text is nothing of the kind, review the various ambiguity discussion.

ossabot: Logged on 2017-08-11 14:37:00 mircea_popescu: this is how it manages the inapproximable "whisks" of meaning that latin-style then has so much trouble noting down.

ossabot: Logged on 2018-06-27 17:39:09 mircea_popescu: the problem though remains, and it goes right into ye olde orthogonality and language discussion ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772426 ) : for sigs to mean anything useful they must not mean anything systematical.

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:21:32 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957172 << too long for what lol, i'm still around. now, what are you asking me ?

dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957236 - ok, point taken and that for sure helps clarify. perhaps I didn't correctly infer what you meant by not wanting face to face to be feasible though.

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:38:50 mircea_popescu: so my proposal is rather to look at the matter not as much as you're in the business of TEACHING LINUX (while getting together), but in the business of GETTING TOGETHER (while for instance teaching linux, or gales, or bitcoin, or whatever is needed)

dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957240 - in aiming to have something concrete where we had the highest competitive advantage and long term, sustainable leverage for both ourselve and clients, we had been limit

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:42:14 mircea_popescu: what will you say ? "sorry, we gales only" ? as opposed to "yes dood, here, ten lines of awk. we'll go through what it does next we meet" ? hm ?

dorion: e.g. law firms and banks here pretty muuch all have terrible practices and they know it - to a degree, but we were thinking helping them harden their windows systems was carrying too much opportunity cost and there's already competition there.

dorion: plus, banks and brokers have their balls in a regulatory vice which takes away a lot of the principal's agency. So our thinking was to approach the principals as individuals and consult them personally, not "their" company.

dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957244 - that's the biggest takeaway I have at this point from this. use what they're doing to develop the relationship and earn their trust and use the relationship to then convert them.

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:47:43 mircea_popescu: obviously to a large degree you'll have to support your people, so you'll be working with their things to begin transitioning to sane things as a matter of necessity.

dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957245 - fo sho. after being blind myself for years, I think I'd quit computers in the imaginary hell in which the cli was taken away from me.

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:49:03 mircea_popescu: the fundamental problems are that cli-iliteracy is a serious, life-changing disability. in terms of severity, blindness compares, deafness does not. obviously the afflicted are scarcely aware, but this doesn't mean they're not afflicted.

dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-24#1957248 - lol, I can see it. a father can in large part be replaced by other positive male role models. I don't reckon cli has a substitute.

ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-24 23:51:58 mircea_popescu: so you know, as far as the life prospects, the future evolution, however you will name the sum-total potential of a person's existence, understanding how to command line is more important than meeting their father. it'll certaily do a lot for them, and it certainly CAN do way the fuck more for them.

mircea_popescu: dorion nothing wrong with approaching individuals, on the contrary, prolly right thing. nothing wrong with having a clear center, concrete, highest advantage, etc.

mircea_popescu: none of these are problems.

dorion: mircea_popescu thanks. your comments have opened us up though and now I reckon we're more likely to establish the initial working relationship.

mircea_popescu: laters

mircea_popescu: though honestly, i don't think there's any need (or for that matter any space) for "using the relationship" or anything like that.

mircea_popescu: in the simplest of terms : whoever you might be meeting, either is doing something or isn't doing anything. if they're not doing anything you absolutely have no use for them, as the idiomatic expression -- there's no possible basis for any relationship, no cause to meet again, get lost dumbo.

mircea_popescu: if they are doing something, they necessarily can benefit -- if they can't, you're doing things wrong, and are cordially invited to change how you do them.

mircea_popescu: given that they can benefit, they might or might not feel inclined to talk. that's your job, reducing the latter to the former. in principle most everyone's willing to venture some small ante, see how it goes, and go from there ; corner cases aren't particularly interesting.

mircea_popescu: from which point things flow naturally : either what they were doing was worth doing to begin with or not. helping them simply means they'll get to find out faster, nothing else.

mircea_popescu: if it was worth doing all the better, you're helping someone do something that was worth doing, which helps everyone here in the most direct of ways.

mircea_popescu: if it wasn't really worth doing, it just seemed like it was at first -- all the better! now they know, and they can thereby move on to doing something actually worth doing.

mircea_popescu: the great advantage of the totalitarian worldview is, after all, that it's a totalitarian worldview.