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ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-21 23:57:55 billymg: damn it feels good being in control of my time again. i spent the morning installing alf's dulap-gentoo on a lenovo E545 i picked up off ebay, plus some research into the trb setup i'll want for it. i then took a break in the afternoon to read the origin stories from jfw and dorion, both of which were inspiring/motivating (and i plan to continue with the background articles published recently on other blogs as well

billymg: damn it feels good being in control of my time again. i spent the morning installing alf's dulap-gentoo on a lenovo E545 i picked up off ebay, plus some research into the trb setup i'll want for it. i then took a break in the afternoon to read the origin stories from jfw and dorion, both of which were inspiring/motivating (and i plan to continue with the background articles published recently on other blogs as well

feedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3613 << Loper OS -- Thank you, first 'Dulap' Subscriber!

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:13:44 BingoBoingo: Fedex economy came in with an estimate a bit under 300 USD given the dulap's dimensions and bathroom scale weight without packaging. Packaging at this moment is looking like it will end up being mover's foam rolls and improvised cardboard box/wrap held together with substantial tape.

BingoBoingo: Your chassis is a bit heavier and deeper than the dulap machines, but it also has the guts of two machines inside.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 11:41:51 diana_coman: maintaining the frozen dulap-gentoo recipe + all and deploying that + still having afterwards to make the switch to cuntoo when it's ready

diana_coman: maintaining the frozen dulap-gentoo recipe + all and deploying that + still having afterwards to make the switch to cuntoo when it's ready

diana_coman: to fully clarify: I can boot both/either servers on dulap-gentoo on either amd or intel hardware

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that is AMD with dulap-gentoo aka proto-cuntoo aka NOT fully statically linked

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i expect to sign the final inventory today, after BingoBoingo cuts my seals and inspects the inside of the 'dulap's.

asciilifeform meanwhile took delivery of 40kg crate containing 2 'dulap'. won't touch'em tho until wrap up current article.

asciilifeform: ( there's diana_coman , ersatz-dulap hosting http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log + bot, and a trb . )

asciilifeform would offer to mp_en_viaje another pilot, w/ properly written instruction manuals, but sadly cannot yet, the 'dulap' crates aint here yet, grr

asciilifeform: the os is the current draft of 'asciilifeform-dulap' as earlier provided to diana_coman .

asciilifeform: ( concretely : 4 'dulap'-style units , while (w/ mp_en_viaje-corrected set of constants) putting op +240 in +ev, in fact exhausts the energy allotment (not overruns, but leaves room only for rk plant.) and there already were requested, counting everyone who answered, tentatively 4 dulap's worth . (5 if counting shared-box) . )

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 15:03:50 asciilifeform: for intervals of expansion : would also help if had any way to gauge demand. ( atm i have 1 ~maybe~ dulap-install being considered by diana_coman & mp. anyone else ? )

asciilifeform: for intervals of expansion : would also help if had any way to gauge demand. ( atm i have 1 ~maybe~ dulap-install being considered by diana_coman & mp. anyone else ? )

asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'fully populate' i expect will happen quickly when l1 finds prospectus satisfactory. e.g. 4 'dulap'-type boxen and 1 shared-www per BingoBoingo's schematic already exhausts the energy supply. at which pt i'ma expand to full tower. and diana_coman is right imho, this oughta be detailed in 2nd draft.

BingoBoingo: Even with the lessons learned. Drives die, etc. 3 year depreciation may make sense for a dulap, but on a rockchip even with forced air...We had a Rockchip die

asciilifeform: a 256G 'dulap' potentially could house ~128 users at similar ram apportionment (but only 8 if each were to be allotted 4 cores as present in rk.)

BingoBoingo: lobbes: I still gotta write a post for asciilifeform on what a shared hosting stack should look like. It may also be the case that the bot would be better with its own 'dulap' type server. I have not had time to sit down and catch up completely with the conversation surrounding this bot.

BingoBoingo: Hardware wise UY1 left little to nothing to nitpick. Dulap type machine lots of ram, lots of fast disk, plenty of cores, hard to have too much of any of these things when shitting pages from public facing port. The room for improvement is in the stack and its management.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this is valid but cost differential for 'dulap'-types is negligible .

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, seems that we'll want a 'dulap-type' for this. i'ma 1st handle the outstanding reqs tho.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: if diana_coman & mp_en_viaje would like to set up smgtron on 1 of the new boxen, plox to let asciilifeform know asap, so can purchase the desired type and qty of disks. there are 4, as before , disk rails in ea. 'dulap'.

BingoBoingo: Fedex economy came in with an estimate a bit under 300 USD given the dulap's dimensions and bathroom scale weight without packaging. Packaging at this moment is looking like it will end up being mover's foam rolls and improvised cardboard box/wrap held together with substantial tape.

diana_coman: ftp://logs.ossasepia.com/ - I've setup a ftp mirror for asciilifeform as he currently has only the slow loper-os; he already uploaded the dulap tarball; it has anonymous read-only access for anyone interested/having trouble with loper-os.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dulap-I was iirc a centos6 box. it is possible to live in it. but you dun get the fine-grained scalpel that gentoo folx are accustomed to.

asciilifeform ftr , originally wrote the dulap kern config with philosophy 'cut errything that's defo not in my irons'

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in last weeks of dulap log , there were moar 'humanlike' activity on its www from argentines than ~anywhere else ; incl. folx grabbing FG test dumps etc. i had and still have nfi who , why.

asciilifeform: indeed. iirc that ^ 1 was the 1st long enuff to throw the logger on dulap tho .

ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-10 18:40:22 asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/dulap_construction_kit.txt

BingoBoingo: Well, how much does a dulap spec machine run for on the market atm, and are there any indications as to how deep the market is. You did say earlier that they are getting rarer

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 23:32:29 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942225 << dulap -- yes, would like to spend some time w/ it ( it needs new disks, and prolly ducts to be cleaned ) but as for the other boxen, oughta ask their operators where they want'em to go.

BingoBoingo back at terminal. Shared machine user data backed up along with databases. asciilifeform Dulap powered down, drives removed

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941653 << funnily , 1 of the places asciilifeform wanted to try parking dulap in '17 , was a (largely empty) telco exchange 2km from house. reputedly, gives a locking rebar cage for <1.5k/m . and in the heart of the beast. the thing, i suspect if had done this, it'd still be there, working..

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to plug a ssd into dulap when yer done. grab in the morning. ( would like a fresh copy if possible )

asciilifeform: woah, mp_en_viaje concerned with stress of crew ?!!! ~nao~ i must ask, mp_en_viaje are you mp_en_viaje right nao or is hanbot filling in at console ( check out, also forgot that phuctor lived in dulap ? ) plox to fess up!111

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it was in fact 'ready to fire' on dulap , but not kept running eternally (a tcpdump of ERRYTHING slows box to a crawl and will eat yer ssd in ~week)

asciilifeform: asciilifeform operates exactly 1 machine at piz, dulap, under banner of snsa, since the asciilifeform expedition flight when was installed.

asciilifeform: dulap also served e.g. the rk example image, 2.5GB, downloaded by lotsa people w/ no ill effect on pipe

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 11:40:34 asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941224 << can i persuade diana_coman to share that pcap ? dulap ended up unplugged just before i could set up tcpdump on it .

asciilifeform: lobbes: the autodisconnector in fact was thoroughly tested, while dulap was 'half alive' on sat.

asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941224 << can i persuade diana_coman to share that pcap ? dulap ended up unplugged just before i could set up tcpdump on it .

asciilifeform was in the midst of setting up a (dulap-side, hence would say nuffin re ~total mass~, but at least sumthing re ~type~) probe , but did not live long enuff to finish.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 18:42:28 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: From what I can see it looks like they went ahead and blackholed a portion of the IP space. half the rockchips, dulap, and another IP

BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: From what I can see it looks like they went ahead and blackholed a portion of the IP space. half the rockchips, dulap, and another IP

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: mno. during ddos, whole pipe was dead. whereas atm e.g. uy1 loads, ditto ossasepia, but not dulap or qntra << Ah, here I was trying to load qntra

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mno. during ddos, whole pipe was dead. whereas atm e.g. uy1 loads, ditto ossasepia, but not dulap or qntra

asciilifeform: re ddos ( supposing to take latech's word for the assertion that it ~is~ a ddos , rather than pipe provider playing dulap-I-style games ) -- fact of the matter, it dun cost very much to saturate a 200Mb/s pipe.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940634 << incidentally BingoBoingo is outage 100% over ? dulap is connected, anyone still out ? << Two Rockchips, sent the order to open the pipe to them few minutes ago.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940634 << incidentally BingoBoingo is outage 100% over ? dulap is connected, anyone still out ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when dulap is accessible, i'ma ask BingoBoingo to reserve a coupla spare ip for it.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.

asciilifeform: this was ( and continues, dulap still dead ) a maddeningly sovokesque experience, where we pay vendor for fish 'that's what they don't have at the fish counter' but short of borrowing mp_en_viaje's freighter and laying own fiber i can't presently think of a final solution to it

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's ok-ish but what's prominently missing is PLUG DULAP BAKC IN OMFG

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: is dulap the last 1 left in the cold ? what's the obstacle to gettin' it plugge in atm ?

BingoBoingo: Most of Pizarro is back. Now we have to figure out how to bring 2 Rockchips and dulap back without them autoconnecting to Freenode cloakless

ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 22:28:19 asciilifeform: i find it mighty 'coincidence'(tm) that for year+ we get 24/7 pipe, and then put a logger and nao dulap-I treatment.

asciilifeform: i find it mighty 'coincidence'(tm) that for year+ we get 24/7 pipe, and then put a logger and nao dulap-I treatment.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yours was specific to dulap ( where phuctor db was being walked just as mircea_popescu happened to load ) , recall that other boxen were unaffected

asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know how you want the db on dulap corrected ( 'drop where chan='ossasepia'... & import ? then plox to deedbot a replacement dump of #o )

asciilifeform: imho The Right Thing there would be to build new array on dulap-spare , w/ cuntoo. ( naturally after crate flies )

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936169 << dulap's been short on disk for a while. ( atm it's a raid5 of 4 x 256G , i.e. 750 usable ; ~90% full at this time )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 15:13:13 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! lobbes , diana_coman , et al : reader.py on dulap updated to lobbes's raw-export-fix. vtree page updated w/ lobbes patch and lobbes , asciilifeform , sigs.