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mircea_popescu: the slowly creeping usg-isation of bitcoin has to be nipped in the bud.
decimation: http://www.fcc.gov/guides/interception-and-divulgence-radio-communications << usg provides a useful 'help' page
gabriel_laddel: Me: "so what do you think of MPEX"? He: "What they do is illegal!! You can't take money from investors in the united states without explicit approval of USG!"
asciilifeform: i suspect that he spun the whole thing as 'moral philosophy' because if he had readily admitted that gpl was merely a successful hack against usg's 'laws', he would have been killed.
asciilifeform: usg dept. of computing.
ben_vulpes: usg can mandate its serfs run .10 or w/e
asciilifeform: you'll know gotterdammerung isn't far when usg btc-fiat exchange handlers start lifting from the pots, in broad daylight, and leaving their 'patients' to take the blame.
decimation: but the little people in usg find that 'unfair'
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'disregard x years and you'll never see the difference' is sop on usg projects.
mircea_popescu: doubt they will. some pool ops might be clueless enough to try and hijack the network to please gavin/usg, but that's ok, they'll get shot later.
decimation: if anyone is interested in simulation, usg publishes a free software package to simulate shortwave paths: http://www.voacap.com/prediction.html
decimation: fiat, fiat business stock, fiat bonds, promises from usg to pay
decimation: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/01/02/1418761112 << lol usg 'research': "The number of principal investi- gators for R01s who are 36 y of age or youn- ger has declined from 18% in 1983 to 3% in 2010. Today, more than twice as many R01s are awarded to principal investigators who are over 65 y as are under 36 y, a reversal from only 15 y ago."
mircea_popescu: add all the usg-side businesses together, see what you get. lotta hope, lotta hype, no receipts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'brain activation' folks are simply a somewhat more 'photogenic' version of the rest of usg academia, where virtually every physical science 'result', almost without exception, concerns some spurious correlation of this and that
asciilifeform: very simple formula: the 'barbarians' are in fact employees of the swedish (french, british, american - each case) government, aka usg, in good standing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the interesting thing is that usg has not succeeded in entirely displacing the native, ethnic 'lotteries'
asciilifeform: yes, usg succeeded in setting up the situation where every luserplebe's browser will ring bells, flash lights, if a cert didn't come with a hitler signature
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this is because the browsers are usg projects.
asciilifeform: a somewhat younger, livelier usg had a multitude of copies produced, and used in utmost secrecy, almost immediately after the find.
mircea_popescu: artifexd you might discover it hurts you, much like the low level usg employee who thinks the fed helps him would soon discover his lot would be better without that bit.
asciilifeform: there is the added difficulty of everyone and anyone in usg-dom being 'a paedo' retroactively on the mere request of a preet.
asciilifeform: imho it is far from a sure thing that this will so much as add one drop of sweat to a usg inquisitor's work
asciilifeform: not even usg as such, needed for this. the crapware folks will readily latch on to anything like a solution to what ails them - which proposed apparatus is; and the antivirus folks will immediately proceed to piss out whatever fluids they can muster, against the problem
asciilifeform: say, by engineering a continuous double-spend attempt into normal operation of 'usgcoin' miners
mircea_popescu: not what i've been hearing from teh chinese folks on the topic, but w/e, gavin's more than welcome to persevere in his usg-is-the-world delusions.
asciilifeform: on the contrary, synthetic chumpfracking fluid is a usg product.
kakobrekla: gaw is not usg powered
asciilifeform: synthetic chumps (btc stolen by usg organs) is pumped into eth
decimation: http://www.itworld.com/article/2864675/new-lie-detector-relies-on-fullbody-suit-for-better-accuracy.html << lol these guys want to sell gimp suits for hazing usg employees
davout: in other news bitcointalk is now requesting that moderators fill some usg paperwork for the purpose of paying taxes
mircea_popescu: just as an idle exercise, imagine how that article'd have sounded if the criminals were some usg agency, stealing the woman's drive and not giving it back.
ascii_modem: the audience can't do jack shit to bring sane silicon into being. but it can actively and maximally destructively piss on 'intellectual property' and related usg crown privilege.
decimation: adlai: you can see how it would be much more difficult for usg to actually coordinate which secrets are 'released' and which ones are 'secret'
adlai: my favorite nonsense was an internal usg email during the snowden leaks, advising employees not to read the leaked document on unclassified workstations lacking necessary clearance to view the doc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight' << quite. which is why it's so lulzy to watch.
mircea_popescu: decimation: well, certainly one cannot be enemies with usg or usg's agents << everyone in bitcoin is and can.
ascii_modem: usg presently has no enemy armies, only recalcitrant muppets
ascii_modem: the whole robot war thing -only- 'works' for usg or similar vs unarmed or max iron age folks
mircea_popescu: usg, china, russia, korea, etc
ben_vulpes: usg seems to be going out of its way to avoid anything smart with drones.
ben_vulpes: usg?
mircea_popescu: the problem with the f35 is the usg.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how is it a win lol. << If USG accepts it can't have nice things it can try to still be kind of the dump
ascii_modem: the silent, tedious corrosion of everything even vaguely computerized, on account of winblows - that's a modern usg win.
mircea_popescu: decimation: one gets the picture that usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications << this is not as unlikely as itmay seem. at a time when caesar came up with the pgp of that time, most of the senate a) loled at the nonsense ; b) wondered which gods caesar was praying to to be that successful.
mircea_popescu: all the asshole "lefties" for pay that helped the usg "react to" snowden have made money out of it. the old system where a "random hero" was selected to be held up as a fetish for the masses, "explaining" their poverty and justifying their pointless struggle is giving way, out of sheer exhaustion of resources,
mircea_popescu: except the usg is not a version of the world, it's merely a version of graham & co's beliefs.
mircea_popescu: he succeeded as an easy money usg moocher, which is i suppose something he justifies to himself as "being an expert in a later version of the world"
mircea_popescu: how secure can one feel, as a mid range us bureaucrat, given these revelations ? the usg can not protect you, yo.
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2014 15:23:38; mircea_popescu: next step : Bitcoin regulates the USG.
decimation: yeah in retrospect the whole sony thing was a crass marketing ploy with usg cooperation
decimation: no, that's pretty much the glue that holds usg together (quashing folks before they pose a threat)
mircea_popescu: and it'd work just fine, too, if it weren't for btc. this construction where someone could be a secure billionaire and not part of the usg club simply wasn't being planned for.
mircea_popescu: basically the usg is trying (through its "vc" agency) to run the web exactly the way it's running the country : use the poor to scare the productive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'can't delete avahi-0.6.31p10 without deleting cups-libs-1.6.3p0 gtk+2-2.24.20p1 gvfs-1.16.3' << brain damage beyond belief <<< "can't delete usg without deleting roads and the sky above".
asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight'
BingoBoingo: Don't worry. China is baking up Loongson so that there will be another turdwarez platform when the USG can no longer prop up Arm.
decimation: well, certainly one cannot be enemies with usg or usg's agents
asciilifeform: decimation: this means 'be the darling of the usg crown'
decimation: asciilifeform: re: illegal radios << yes, this is a route. unfortunately usg is good at finding such products and crushing their makers
adlai: although "hamas" refers to both a government and a loosely-knit military conglomerate, just like "usg" or "nato"
asciilifeform: or when there's a gap in the usg shortwave jammers
decimation: but as asciilifeform has pointed out, the bezzlars (usg) control the entire silicon process stack
decimation: they make & implement usg policy, and allow stooges to stand in front of the microphones to take the heat
asciilifeform: the actual nervous system of usg is not the muppets with the microphones
decimation: except they achieved lock-in by getting usg to enforce their comms standard & getting the cell phone ownership to agree
asciilifeform: presently that's usg.
decimation: yes, there is much wisdom here. the electronics market consists nearly entirely of lock-in, either by complexity, inertia, or usg enforcement (patents, etc)
decimation: from his point of view, he has a design team of usg zeks to work for him?
decimation: I guess he's getting paid to hustle for his usg masters
asciilifeform: point is that 'w4r3z dangle' is a time-honoured usg tactic.
asciilifeform: afaik the only customer is usg.
asciilifeform: dreary usg (and useful-idiots) claptrap.
decimation: actually usg would be much better off if it simply disbanded the department of state
decimation: asciilifeform: My point is that no one in the entire us media 'noticed' that the intercept (which was supposedly sophisticated) came from usg 'leaders' talking on unsecure lines
asciilifeform: ukraine << so what. did even a single usg minion die from the intercepted phone ?
asciilifeform: decimation: usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications << of what concern is what a muppet says to another muppet ?
decimation: one gets the picture that usg 'leaders' think of themselves as being above such trivialities as secure communications
decimation: asciilifeform: it's possible that at least someone inside usg who was charged with developing secure computing actually got somewhere
asciilifeform: decimation: usg did have a few 'parallel universes' of computing. there is, afaik, still a lab or two that use symbolics boxes, for example
decimation: asciilifeform: I think it's the case that there is (or was) some meta-usg lab that could conceive and develop secure terminal - perhaps already has
decimation: that's the midget that the usg has squashed by sitting on the computer industry stool
decimation: asciilifeform: I agree with your hypothesis in that I think USG genuinely guides the computer industry into insecurity
thestringpuller: I'm pretty sure there is some privatize black site that is superior to USG version.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: it seems privatized groups are better at disappearing acts than the USG's agency.
decimation: eh, I guess I'm not that cynical. I believe that any scrap of evidence that can be used to stir shit up will be used by usg to sell an agenda
asciilifeform: in fact, discountable on account of mere mention by usg.
decimation: asciilifeform: microsoft produces shitware -> sony uses shitware -> 'best' korea abuses shitware -> usg gains 'writ' to more tax dollars
decimation: usg's 'hand' is a corpse at best
asciilifeform: http://villageundertaker.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/att000022.jpg << 'usg divided against itself'
decimation: if usg supports the suit to annoy snowden, they tacitly admit that they are stewards of the taxpayer's property, and open themselves up to claims against malfeasance
decimation: BingoBoingo: the lawsuit is actually amusing, because it divides usg against itself
decimation: BingoBoingo: coupled with the vague announcement yesterday, it seems someone in usg has decided to pull the plug on tor; possibly related to this sony attack
asciilifeform: ever wonder how intel sells to both usg and plebes ?
decimation: asciilifeform: the government to some degree, yes, but the people are quite tired of usg camping there
asciilifeform: eager muppet of usg since day one.
asciilifeform: also because sk (usg muppet) was the aggressor.
asciilifeform: decimation: believe literally nothing usg (or sk) sources ever said, since day 1, re: 'best korea.'
decimation: asciilifeform: it's enraging that microsoft's shit code & best korean meddling will now be used to justify more derp-o-matics from various usg departments